i'd prefer to go there by myself, also because there are no roads there so i don't see how can i convince some Tuareg dude with a pickup to take me to a place that doesn't even have a name
and when i get there i want to stay there a bit, who's gonna get me back? no driver waits you two days under the sun
Yeah you'll be dead in 2 days if you go there by yourself, I know the area and I know a few people who live in the Sahara and there's 0 way in hell you'd survive unless you knew exactly what the frick you were doing.
Also there's loads of militias, terrorists, and general government activity.
Don't go there unless you really really know what you're doing and you're not trying anything stupid.
>driver drives anon into the desert >takes another 20 yearly wages by robbing his wallet at gunpoint >leaves anon stranded with 2 bottles of water, 500km from the next village
>and when i get there i want to stay there a bit, who's gonna get me back? no driver waits you two days under the sun
why would you want to spend two days in a barren wasteland in africa? you could get a similar experience in Flagstaff
could you explain your logic?
because I'd think keeping you isolated and leaching off your parents/the state, or working your dead-end job, while you fruitlessly fantasize and consooom, would be the much more controllable state and thus be desirable to... certain... persons..., than you going out and actively making reasonable progress to your adventure goal, which is what these posters are telling you to do, much to your butthurtedness.
>Says something obviously israeli >continues to spew israeli nonsense
ok rabbi, thanks for demonstrating for the class the pure nonsensical incoherent nonsense israelites spew at every opportunity. >Use psudo-intelectual psychology speak
Check >Word salad insults that have nothing to do with anything
Check >Incoherent logic that fully leverages multiple fallacies and obvious lies
Check
Go on rabbi--we both know you can't stop yourself from bloviating.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>everyone who uses words above my 2rd grad reading level is a JEEEEEW!!1111
ah, yep, a mental defective, please note: you go in the oven ahead of the israelites.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Bloviating rabbi continues to bloviate >while still saying nothing
I never tire of being right. Stay mad rabbi--keep spewing your pseudo science and seething at people laughing at your obvious pilpul and lame talking points you insist on pushing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>[angry boon shrieks]
kek, from your literacy level 95% of the world looks israelite to you doesn't it
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, rabbi, I've been in the top 10% of literacy in America for decades, was a librarian for decades (starting in 5th grade) and am now a mathematician.
You're right: the economy is 95% israeli.
Keep going Rabbi, oh please keep being such a an obvious liar.
Brotato Chip, I spent literally a year of my life flying combat support missions over the Sahel. Why you wanna go there? Not even the Islamic extremists wanna be there.
There are salt mines at Taoudenni near there which historically have had regular transit, both truck and camel, with Timbuktu. No idea if they're still active but if so I doubt it would be too hard to hop in with a caravan and have them drop you off on the way there then pick you up on the way back.
Whether the salt caravans are running or not, everywhere around there is part of the migrant path to Europe. so there's going to be a lot of people with trucks for hire. Obviously most of them are probably not safe to travel with. I expect that finding a trustworthy guide require either spending a while in Timbuktu or hiring a fixer beforehand. Alternately you could try going in from Algeria, Bordj Bahji Mokhtar is right over the border and has a tourist development board (or at least a halfass website for one) who may be able to connect you to guides.
Of course if you have the money then you could simply buy a truck there, it seem there are 4x4 routes which would at least get you close enough to walk to where you want to go. but if you're unfamiliar with desert offroading, truck repair, and the political situation there you could very easily die. Maybe you're into that?
Good luck anon, hope you pull it off. Going to Mali has always been a dream of mine too, I listen to a lot of Malian music when out in the desert of SW USA/NW Mexico
Buying a vehicle in west Africa is a bureaucratic nightmare, and in Mali in particular it's not so simple to just drive into the desert. From information I've been gleaning on FB in recent years, odds of encountering real trouble are low enough for a tourist to swallow, but not low enough for local authorities to let tourists arse around at will. So it's the omnipresent police and military that are gonna hamper your plans. It's not just a question of 'getting a fixer', you need to find the right fixer, which takes luck and money, lots of both.
I was in Mali in 2016 and have spent a lot of time in neighboring countries. The rewards are worth the trials and frustrations, so I wouldn't discourage OP from trying.
If you want an easier option, Mauritania is 100% safe and you can rent a guide and a couple of camels for cheap, I did that to visit the Richat Structure a couple years back, had a great time.
Have you considered ironically getting there?
Obviously, that's what his real intent is. Non-ironic travel in Africa hasn't been possible since the days of the missionaries.
Taoudenni seems very interesting, i could walk to the desert from there althou it's still too far from the random spot in the desert i selected in OP
https://i.imgur.com/SDU6ORw.png
Buying a vehicle in west Africa is a bureaucratic nightmare, and in Mali in particular it's not so simple to just drive into the desert. From information I've been gleaning on FB in recent years, odds of encountering real trouble are low enough for a tourist to swallow, but not low enough for local authorities to let tourists arse around at will. So it's the omnipresent police and military that are gonna hamper your plans. It's not just a question of 'getting a fixer', you need to find the right fixer, which takes luck and money, lots of both.
I was in Mali in 2016 and have spent a lot of time in neighboring countries. The rewards are worth the trials and frustrations, so I wouldn't discourage OP from trying.
If you want an easier option, Mauritania is 100% safe and you can rent a guide and a couple of camels for cheap, I did that to visit the Richat Structure a couple years back, had a great time.
[...]
Obviously, that's what his real intent is. Non-ironic travel in Africa hasn't been possible since the days of the missionaries.
so i basically have to organize an expedition, which kinda takes away the charm. i liked more the idea of getting there myself althou it seems i can't even buy a fricking car. could i drive down from Algeria after Wagner btfos the terrorists?
>If you want an easier option, Mauritania
of course i will do that, i will take le iron ore train to Fderik and from there climb Kedjet ej Jill. Richat too. but that's too easy
>Walk into the desert
It's 80km from there. Have you spent time in Africa or the desert? On the off chance you're serious you should start near south africa where you can rent a car. I can give you some things around Namibia which I have done and should meet your standards for challenge
You’d have to pay your way on the salt caravan from Timbuktu to the village of Araouane and then on to Taoudenni salt mine. You would be going by camel and it would probably be extremely miserable. The Mali might also just rob you and leave you to die in the desert. You could also be kidnapped and ransomed or just plain killed by Boko Haram.
ok but it seems a bit arbitrary. And you'll just end up paying a local a small sum to drive you there anyway. not much of a challenge. Mountaineering an easy peak would be more challenging
Enjoy trainsurfing OP, don't forget, you are hiding in a cargo train watch out while you are in the stations for iron ore dumping as not to get crushed and watch the video for advice
You would probably be captured and held for ransom by local Tuareg militias, and then the French will have to come rescue you. Or you'll probably just get killed.
algeria-mauritanian border is heavily patrolled by military to stop Sahrawi rebels. Also Algeria is pretty controlling to tourists, you need to inform officials where you will stay, what you will do etc etc. Morocco>Mauritania>Mali will be better. or even better just fly to mali
algeria-mauritanian border is heavily patrolled by military to stop Sahrawi rebels. Also Algeria is pretty controlling to tourists, you need to inform officials where you will stay, what you will do etc etc. Morocco>Mauritania>Mali will be better. or even better just fly to mali
how do you feel about trading your ass for transport?
what kind of transport?
back of a shit beat Toyota truck with 2 goats and 3 burly HIV+ Afrikan men.
i'd prefer to go there by myself, also because there are no roads there so i don't see how can i convince some Tuareg dude with a pickup to take me to a place that doesn't even have a name
and when i get there i want to stay there a bit, who's gonna get me back? no driver waits you two days under the sun
Yeah you'll be dead in 2 days if you go there by yourself, I know the area and I know a few people who live in the Sahara and there's 0 way in hell you'd survive unless you knew exactly what the frick you were doing.
Also there's loads of militias, terrorists, and general government activity.
Don't go there unless you really really know what you're doing and you're not trying anything stupid.
You don't know shit about the area.
Go back
to
reddit
>I don't see how can I convince
Pulling out his yearly wage from your wallet tends to do the trick
>driver drives anon into the desert
>takes another 20 yearly wages by robbing his wallet at gunpoint
>leaves anon stranded with 2 bottles of water, 500km from the next village
>and when i get there i want to stay there a bit, who's gonna get me back? no driver waits you two days under the sun
why would you want to spend two days in a barren wasteland in africa? you could get a similar experience in Flagstaff
On a horse with no name
>multiple flights from Paris to Mali daily
>hire a car
>hire a camel
>arrive
>>hire a camel
a better alternative is too easy
>a better alternative is too easy
oh, this is a maladaptive daydreaming thread.
>Defeatist attitude using pseudoscience language
very israeli of you
>~~*THEY*~~ don't want you wanking your life away in your rioom!!!!1111
nice try agent noseberg
He will seethe at this for the rest of the thread.
could you explain your logic?
because I'd think keeping you isolated and leaching off your parents/the state, or working your dead-end job, while you fruitlessly fantasize and consooom, would be the much more controllable state and thus be desirable to... certain... persons..., than you going out and actively making reasonable progress to your adventure goal, which is what these posters are telling you to do, much to your butthurtedness.
>Says something obviously israeli
>continues to spew israeli nonsense
ok rabbi, thanks for demonstrating for the class the pure nonsensical incoherent nonsense israelites spew at every opportunity.
>Use psudo-intelectual psychology speak
Check
>Word salad insults that have nothing to do with anything
Check
>Incoherent logic that fully leverages multiple fallacies and obvious lies
Check
Go on rabbi--we both know you can't stop yourself from bloviating.
>everyone who uses words above my 2rd grad reading level is a JEEEEEW!!1111
ah, yep, a mental defective, please note: you go in the oven ahead of the israelites.
>Bloviating rabbi continues to bloviate
>while still saying nothing
I never tire of being right. Stay mad rabbi--keep spewing your pseudo science and seething at people laughing at your obvious pilpul and lame talking points you insist on pushing.
>[angry boon shrieks]
kek, from your literacy level 95% of the world looks israelite to you doesn't it
Yes, rabbi, I've been in the top 10% of literacy in America for decades, was a librarian for decades (starting in 5th grade) and am now a mathematician.
You're right: the economy is 95% israeli.
Keep going Rabbi, oh please keep being such a an obvious liar.
>>>hire a camel
yes. mali has labor laws in place to make sure camels are fairly compensated for their work.
How much you willing to spend?
Honestly I would suggest other destinations if you want to see the weird shit that goes way back.
>Hire a bush pilot
I'm also planning in the Aïr. it seems 《relatively》easy to get around there from Agadez
Bad idea. First explain why you want to go there so that we can give you a better alternative.
Brotato Chip, I spent literally a year of my life flying combat support missions over the Sahel. Why you wanna go there? Not even the Islamic extremists wanna be there.
There are salt mines at Taoudenni near there which historically have had regular transit, both truck and camel, with Timbuktu. No idea if they're still active but if so I doubt it would be too hard to hop in with a caravan and have them drop you off on the way there then pick you up on the way back.
Whether the salt caravans are running or not, everywhere around there is part of the migrant path to Europe. so there's going to be a lot of people with trucks for hire. Obviously most of them are probably not safe to travel with. I expect that finding a trustworthy guide require either spending a while in Timbuktu or hiring a fixer beforehand. Alternately you could try going in from Algeria, Bordj Bahji Mokhtar is right over the border and has a tourist development board (or at least a halfass website for one) who may be able to connect you to guides.
Of course if you have the money then you could simply buy a truck there, it seem there are 4x4 routes which would at least get you close enough to walk to where you want to go. but if you're unfamiliar with desert offroading, truck repair, and the political situation there you could very easily die. Maybe you're into that?
Good luck anon, hope you pull it off. Going to Mali has always been a dream of mine too, I listen to a lot of Malian music when out in the desert of SW USA/NW Mexico
Buying a vehicle in west Africa is a bureaucratic nightmare, and in Mali in particular it's not so simple to just drive into the desert. From information I've been gleaning on FB in recent years, odds of encountering real trouble are low enough for a tourist to swallow, but not low enough for local authorities to let tourists arse around at will. So it's the omnipresent police and military that are gonna hamper your plans. It's not just a question of 'getting a fixer', you need to find the right fixer, which takes luck and money, lots of both.
I was in Mali in 2016 and have spent a lot of time in neighboring countries. The rewards are worth the trials and frustrations, so I wouldn't discourage OP from trying.
If you want an easier option, Mauritania is 100% safe and you can rent a guide and a couple of camels for cheap, I did that to visit the Richat Structure a couple years back, had a great time.
Obviously, that's what his real intent is. Non-ironic travel in Africa hasn't been possible since the days of the missionaries.
Taoudenni seems very interesting, i could walk to the desert from there althou it's still too far from the random spot in the desert i selected in OP
so i basically have to organize an expedition, which kinda takes away the charm. i liked more the idea of getting there myself althou it seems i can't even buy a fricking car. could i drive down from Algeria after Wagner btfos the terrorists?
>If you want an easier option, Mauritania
of course i will do that, i will take le iron ore train to Fderik and from there climb Kedjet ej Jill. Richat too. but that's too easy
You could just bring a gf and trade her for a couple camels and equipment. No need for paperwork that way and camels dont break down or get stuck.
>Walk into the desert
It's 80km from there. Have you spent time in Africa or the desert? On the off chance you're serious you should start near south africa where you can rent a car. I can give you some things around Namibia which I have done and should meet your standards for challenge
You’d have to pay your way on the salt caravan from Timbuktu to the village of Araouane and then on to Taoudenni salt mine. You would be going by camel and it would probably be extremely miserable. The Mali might also just rob you and leave you to die in the desert. You could also be kidnapped and ransomed or just plain killed by Boko Haram.
Have a good trip!
Have you considered ironically getting there?
Why?
Challenge is what makes men. It will be the end when men stop looking for new challenges.
ok but it seems a bit arbitrary. And you'll just end up paying a local a small sum to drive you there anyway. not much of a challenge. Mountaineering an easy peak would be more challenging
It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves.
you seem 'challenged' enough as is.
With practice and focus, you can extend yourself far more than you ever believed possible.
Like Luffy?
no, Luffy is charmingly irreverent and unfocused, OP is genuinely moronic.
homie you are not gonna find atlantis
You can trainsurf like shiey used to do and walk there, what's the point of going to that place anyways?
Enjoy trainsurfing OP, don't forget, you are hiding in a cargo train watch out while you are in the stations for iron ore dumping as not to get crushed and watch the video for advice
not even the same country, gay
He has to walk there anyways, the train will help him a lot
Mafia might snatch you whilst you're scramblin' the dunes
Anon, you do know there's a 3-way civil war going on in Mali right now, eh?
Tuareg ethnostate when
>a thread about going the desert becames politically heated about israelites
welcome to PrepHole
yup.
>its a Bright Insight thread
be with the grand tour filming crew and be one of the 3 old blokes, then you easy peasy will be there
You would probably be captured and held for ransom by local Tuareg militias, and then the French will have to come rescue you. Or you'll probably just get killed.
>French will have to come rescue you
>Mali 2024
The French left the country last month....
Fly a helicopter from Morocco and land wherever u want
page 11
doesn't seem too hard. fly to london first, then from london, fly to Morocco. total trip should cost less than $300 assuming you are american
If anything i would have to fly to Algeria, get a car, stuff it with fuel and water for weeks, and illegally cross into Mauritania and Mali
my problem is if the car breaks down or gets stuck in the middle of the desert 1000 km from the nearest settlement
algeria-mauritanian border is heavily patrolled by military to stop Sahrawi rebels. Also Algeria is pretty controlling to tourists, you need to inform officials where you will stay, what you will do etc etc. Morocco>Mauritania>Mali will be better. or even better just fly to mali
I'd rather go to Niger to see the Air Mountains or Chad to see the Tibesti mountains.
Algeria and Mali border each other
okay?
you can only get there ironically
piper super cub
Unironically
>le-recrutement
https://www.dgse.gouv.fr/fr/le-recrutement/nous-rejoindre
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