granted I dont use a dot for precision but rapid close 0-100m targeting, so really can't complain. I can still get 3-4 moa on milspec 5.56 and 1.5-2 on precision 77gr .223 with the R5, prone supported. It's better than irons for sure.
Ima be honest /k/. I don't like the AR. The direct impingement system is too unwieldy. Sights have to be good or the gun is unusable. Maintenance and repair requires too much tools, time, and testing. And then it jams and stops up like any other gun. I just don't see the upsides.
It's just not the white man's weapon.
Call me a fudd all you want. Direct blowback is simple and effective.
Refute me please. I'd like to change my mind, as I've tried to like the AR. Personally though, I just don't see it as a general purpose weapon. It relies on knowledgeable repairmem, and most of its standout qualities only really shine with full auto.
I also dislike direct impingement because it's dirty, but I wouldn't say direct blowback is 'better', just 'less dirty'.
Also there are piston ARs >They're expensive
You're the one that's picky. Be picky or poor, you can't be both.
>because it's dirty
All of the "rapid fire til it dies" tests have shown there is, effectively, no difference between DI and piston lifespan under extreme stress. They both fail in similar time at a similar point, due to overheat stress.
With DI, all I have to really clean is the bolt and the loading area of the upper.
With piston you would have to worry about the rod and piston getting carbon buildup. It's like DI but with more work.
Direct blowback is braindead simple to understand, fix, and adjust, it's simpler than flintlocks. Direct impingement relies on the gas system, which is nebulous in its myriad of extenuating factors.
Literally the only things I don’t like about my AR are the annoying sproinging sound of the buffer against my ear and the charging handle (as opposed to a side charger) and those are personal things, not problems with the design. Plus the charging handle is such a minor thing because you only use it once.
Ima be honest /k/. I don't like the AR. The direct impingement system is too unwieldy. Sights have to be good or the gun is unusable. Maintenance and repair requires too much tools, time, and testing. And then it jams and stops up like any other gun. I just don't see the upsides.
It's just not the white man's weapon.
Call me a fudd all you want. Direct blowback is simple and effective.
>Maintenance
Wiping down the bolt and running a patch down the bore every 2k rounds?
It makes p much anything look like a star wars gun which is I assume why most people have it
Also so they can tag a zillion lights and stupid doohickies like rear view mirrors on their guns to make them weigh a zillion tons
Then they cut 6 inches off the barrel "for weight".
Yeah I think they look ugly as hell. I hate the zoomer blaster look. And what do you really need other than a light and optic unless you’re running nods?
There's no reason to not free float an AR, you lose the useless weight/bulk of a FSB and make the gun more accurate along with giving you the ability to mount accessories further out.
You're not going to get through to him because all AR homosexuals care about is what is the "meta" and what is "gucci" and whatever the frick their favorite leviathan shill is saying at the moment
You're not going to get through to him because all AR homosexuals care about is what is the "meta" and what is "gucci" and whatever the frick their favorite leviathan shill is saying at the moment
https://i.imgur.com/AYBDfY0.jpg
Unironically this is about as capable as a modern AR with a freefloat tube and a m-lok rail.
The post about the M4A1 with a FSB being about a capable is my post FYI. You don't give up very much with that system, but newer ones still have some minor advantages. Both will be able to hit man sized targets with the right sighting system out to 500 yards/meters with a decently trained shooter.
There's no reason to not free float an AR, you lose the useless weight/bulk of a FSB and make the gun more accurate along with giving you the ability to mount accessories further out.
Those are such minor ‘advantages’ that it doesn’t matter much to me and it comes down to personal preference. I prefer to have an FSB.
Isn’t one of the best things about fsb is that the gas block is pin and welded and basically idiot proof
>Let me guess, you need more?
Yes. 300wm boltgun does things for me that never will. On the contrary what you posted is something I don't need at all. >but le happening SHTF!?!
lmao
lol even
Needs wooden furniture.
No, but I certainly want more.
A2 foregrips were NEVER meant to be shortened below full length m16a2, fricking quad rails look nicer and I’m tired of pretending that’s wrong
>he wants the cylindrical black thing longer than it already is
For fricks sake anon keep your fricking fetish to yourself.
>Someone mentions foregrip.
>He instantly sexualises it.
You keep YOUR fetish to yourself.
More than one, frick yeah
Slimline handguards pls
Yes, I need about 3 higher.
.t Micky O’flanrahanigan
you say that like it's something to be ashamed of
so may we see your firearm license, guvna?
How much are they ducking going nowadays? Like $2k ?
Yes, I need a 20" barrel and fixed stock.
Yeah, kinda. Even a basic b***h sig romeo 5 blows iron sights the frick out. Plus muh sling
It's not even astigmatism the quality of the dot on those is just not good, but for $140 can I really complain about mine?
The dot on my Romeo 5 & 7 is sharp but the dot on my Romeo 7S is smudged, I think you just got a bad batch like I did with the 7S.
granted I dont use a dot for precision but rapid close 0-100m targeting, so really can't complain. I can still get 3-4 moa on milspec 5.56 and 1.5-2 on precision 77gr .223 with the R5, prone supported. It's better than irons for sure.
Yes.
All I need
>picatinny carry handle
homie frick you
actually I need less
needs an a1 stock and a fixed carry handle and a slim handguard
Ima be honest /k/. I don't like the AR. The direct impingement system is too unwieldy. Sights have to be good or the gun is unusable. Maintenance and repair requires too much tools, time, and testing. And then it jams and stops up like any other gun. I just don't see the upsides.
It's just not the white man's weapon.
Call me a fudd all you want. Direct blowback is simple and effective.
Is this copy pasta?
It's fine if you make it so.
Refute me please. I'd like to change my mind, as I've tried to like the AR. Personally though, I just don't see it as a general purpose weapon. It relies on knowledgeable repairmem, and most of its standout qualities only really shine with full auto.
I also dislike direct impingement because it's dirty, but I wouldn't say direct blowback is 'better', just 'less dirty'.
Also there are piston ARs
>They're expensive
You're the one that's picky. Be picky or poor, you can't be both.
>because it's dirty
All of the "rapid fire til it dies" tests have shown there is, effectively, no difference between DI and piston lifespan under extreme stress. They both fail in similar time at a similar point, due to overheat stress.
With DI, all I have to really clean is the bolt and the loading area of the upper.
With piston you would have to worry about the rod and piston getting carbon buildup. It's like DI but with more work.
>Gas tubes and blocks never get dirty
Weak b8 week 8 of 8
If I can clean it and maintain it that way rather than have the DI decide to be gay and just stop cycling, I'd prefer piston
>decide to stop firing
What after 2500 rounds with no added lubrication?
terrible bait
>direct impingement too unwieldy
>direct blowback is better
bait with a capital B
Direct blowback is braindead simple to understand, fix, and adjust, it's simpler than flintlocks. Direct impingement relies on the gas system, which is nebulous in its myriad of extenuating factors.
Literally the only things I don’t like about my AR are the annoying sproinging sound of the buffer against my ear and the charging handle (as opposed to a side charger) and those are personal things, not problems with the design. Plus the charging handle is such a minor thing because you only use it once.
Put grease on your buffer spring
>Maintenance
Wiping down the bolt and running a patch down the bore every 2k rounds?
Yes. 20 inch barrel and fixed stock.
Need? No
Want? Yes
Yes I do because frick A2 grips and frick GI stocks.
Unironically this is about as capable as a modern AR with a freefloat tube and a m-lok rail.
Freefloat is a meme created by homosexuals and unnecessary for 98% of AR uses
It makes p much anything look like a star wars gun which is I assume why most people have it
Also so they can tag a zillion lights and stupid doohickies like rear view mirrors on their guns to make them weigh a zillion tons
Then they cut 6 inches off the barrel "for weight".
Yeah I think they look ugly as hell. I hate the zoomer blaster look. And what do you really need other than a light and optic unless you’re running nods?
There's no reason to not free float an AR, you lose the useless weight/bulk of a FSB and make the gun more accurate along with giving you the ability to mount accessories further out.
Those are such minor ‘advantages’ that it doesn’t matter much to me and it comes down to personal preference. I prefer to have an FSB.
You're not going to get through to him because all AR homosexuals care about is what is the "meta" and what is "gucci" and whatever the frick their favorite leviathan shill is saying at the moment
The post about the M4A1 with a FSB being about a capable is my post FYI. You don't give up very much with that system, but newer ones still have some minor advantages. Both will be able to hit man sized targets with the right sighting system out to 500 yards/meters with a decently trained shooter.
Accesories are not minor. Being able to mount a flashlight, red dot, and nods + scope setup is a force multiplier
And you can do all of that without freefloating.
>No reason not to free float
>A1 handguards exist
Isn’t one of the best things about fsb is that the gas block is pin and welded and basically idiot proof
>Let me guess, you need more?
Yes. 300wm boltgun does things for me that never will. On the contrary what you posted is something I don't need at all.
>but le happening SHTF!?!
lmao
lol even
AR15 peaked here, everything afterward was just changing furniture and optics.
Canadian here, I'd be over the frickin moon if I could just have that.
I need a fixed carry handle in a Colt 723, or XM4 configuration.
Big tiddie anime gun girl would be nice