It’s over hoholbros…
>The Russian Defense Ministry has released footage which it said shows Russian troops in Zaporozhye Region inspecting NATO-supplied armor that they captured from its Ukrainian operators.
>The video released on Tuesday appears to show an excited Russian soldier circling several damaged pieces of equipment, including a German-made Leopard 2 main battle tank and US-produced Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. He remarked that some of their engines were still running.
>“This [explicit] hardware is not as scary as it seemed,” the man is heard saying.
>The ministry, which shared the clip on social media, called the Western vehicles “our trophies” and argued that the condition in which they were found “indicates the rapid pace of the engagement and the abandonment of the battle-ready hardware by the Ukrainian armed forces.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/577940-russia-captured-leopard-ukraine/
Mate, its just a tank
>Mate, its just a tank
Tell that to western propagandists.
>poster
Where does it say Leopards are the wunderwaffe?
Perhaps where they used leopards in the fricking poster.
>western
>Ukraine government organization
So you admit that Ukraine is a western country?
Americans run their propaganda
Wow then they're REALLY Western!
That's so incredibly gay holy shit
>AI generated image
Holy kino
Who the frick said a Leopard 2 and some bradleys were wunderwaffen? You shills love your strawmen
HAHAHAHAHAHA
At least you admit that Ukraine is part ofthe west
>T
One western tank is a glorious victory
A million soviet/ZBlack person tanks is a statistic
At first I was like
>Leos will demolish vatniks
But then
>Mate it's just a tank
But I'm glad both of us are acknowledging that in reality western tech is the same garbage as soviet tech.
>western tech is the same garbage as soviet tech
If talking about tanks, it really isn't. Western tanks have better optics, better night vision, are safer for the crew, and can back up faster.
>one piece of western tech lost for hundreds of soviet tech
>western vehicles light damaged and immobilised with zero crew casualties vs soviet vehicles tossing their turrets
>iT's ThE sAmE gArBaGe
Beyond braindead take, commit suicide so your moroniation no longer shames civilization.
There's one piece of western tech lost for hundreds of soviet, because there WAS one piece of western tech for hundreds of soviet. Don't be moronic.
>zero crew casualties
Pardon the lack of that one picture of bradley interior being perforated and generously smeared in maroon liquid and pink goo. You know the one.
>Pardon the lack of that one picture of bradley interior being perforated and generously smeared in maroon liquid and pink goo. You know the one.
May we see it?
It was actually M113, my bad.
This war showed for a fact that all that shit was just a huge meme.
splat
atleast that suppressed krinkoff looks like its still salvgeable
>It was actually M113, my bad.
Oh, so it was totally another vehicle from the 60s destroyed in 2022? Yeah, I'm sure this is what we were talking about
At 1.5" max of composite armor, Bradley doesn't have much more protection than M113, and it sure as shit wouldn't have mattered considering it's being fired at by either 125mm shells or 152mm rockets.
>Bradley doesn't have much more protection than M113
All around 14.5 API protection is far from the 7.62x51 ball the M113 is rated for, what the frick are you smoking?
Yeah, M113s are kinda soft. Only about 2 inches of aluminum max.
>all that shit was just a huge meme
what shit? Are we talking about Bradleys? They're contemporary to BMP-2s you mongoloid, that's not "40 years of technology"
>They're contemporary to BMP-2s you mongoloid, that's not "40 years of technology"
Did we have any Stryker casualties yet?
Also, did we have any BMP-3 equivalents yet?
>Stryker casualties
I haven't seen any confirmed, but some new ones were announced in the mini aid package intended to replace losses so far, so maybe?
>Also, did we have any BMP-3 equivalents yet?
I don't believe Ukraine has received anything as new as a BMP-3 as far as IFVs go, if that's what you mean. It's all Bradleys and Marders and some BMP variants from former Warsaw Pact countries. See pic
Isn't the CV90 a newer gen than the Bradley?
When will Ukraine get PUMA's?
you're right, but take another look
>to be delivered
I mean it's possible Oryx is just not up to date. Did CV90s appear on that leaked list of the 9 brigades' equipment?
>Bradleys are shit!
>here look at this picture of a Gavin, which is notoriously shit and not a Bradley, as proof!
damn bro a shitbox that got raped by VCs because battle-taxi APC was a horrible doctrine got fricked up six decades after it was considered outdated?
>NATO armor column rides into a mine field
>hit by arty
>hit by Kornets
>hit by Vikhr
>zero catastrophic explosions
>zero turret throwing
>most of the crews escape
>2/3 of them will be repaired by next week
LMAO sure is same shit.
Explosions took place. Turrets been thrown. Most of the crews escape anyway, that's not unique to NATO designs, especially if it's a landmine mobility kill which isn't usually lethal to the crew.
these are from the desert though. Not saying turrent can't pop on leos (they're just tanks) but nothing from ukraine has been that catastrophic
Because nearly all the losses have been mines. Same shit happened in Vuhledar with piles of recoverable tanks and IFVs in fields
These examples in Syria took a direct hit from a TOW into the hull ammo. You can see how the entire corner of the hull where the ammo used to be has been evaporated.
There is one, singular, case where this happened, the other case was probably an air strike on an abandonded mobility-killed Leo2.
Western tanks sure are tough even in some of the worst scenarios.
I would argue western tech is even more garbage due to how overpriced it is compared to soviet shit.
Like T-72 has a better track record in post Soviet Union warfare than the Leopard 2 and it's like 16 times cheaper.
And if find it extremely funny how NATO-aligned eastern European countries like Poland and Romania are ditching the Leopard 2 in favour of Korea's K2 or Abrams tanks.
>western tech
meant German
I feel like this is more a function of german procurement and less german tech. They buy in tiny quantities, have crazy requirements, regularly revise said requirements, etc. This makes for IFVs that cost two to three times as much as they would in a functional bureaucracy
yeah no one serious said that. You can find plenty of journalists who don't even cover defense topics saying questionable things, but you'd be hard-pressed to find someone like Michael Kofman making moronic claims like that. If that was your perception I think that says more about your media consumption habits than anything
Sure, procurement
https://www.dw.com/en/technical-problems-plague-germanys-puma-armored-vehicles/a-64138126
I'm not really sure why you think this supports your point, but thanks for the link anon
problems were due to handling and not technical nature. dw never followed up on it but the previous MoD hat to pack her bags because she blew up the situation mroe than it needed to be. The ifv were ready shortly after only one that suffered a fire was extensively repaired
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/bundeswehr-puma-ausfall-selbstgemachtes-problem-1.5736355
>It's a remarkable admission. The total failure of the Puma infantry fighting vehicle during an exercise in December is apparently mainly due to operational errors by the troops. According to information from the Süddeutsche Zeitung, top representatives of the ministry and the army admitted in the Bundestag Defense Committee on Wednesday that the units were poorly prepared and not familiar enough with the system and that there was a lack of spare parts and tools.
>Industry support was not sought, although it was possible to do so. All 18 vehicles had failed at the time. Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht (SPD), who has since resigned, initially shifted responsibility for the debacle to industry and put the pending decision on the procurement of further Pumas on hold.
interesting. Honestly even if it was technical issues, that can be caused by a broken procurement process too. Strict standards and a moving target wrt requirements can lead to increased complexity and design compromises you wouldn't normally make, which can lead to poor reliability or even basic issues with subsystems
Procurement is so fricked. Everything that costs more than 25m has to go through parlament and being voted and discussed.
>I feel like this is more a function of german procurement and less german tech.
It's absolutely true that German bureaucracy is a nightmare which hampers procurement but Germany is also suffering from a brain drain in the engineering sector. It's not that German engineers aren't good, it's more that they get better deals working for non-German companies and end up leaving.
mate ur a literal queer
VatBlack folk reduced their objectives from taking Ukraine to Bakmuht to a tank.
For people not wanting to give >>>>>RT clicks
https://archive.is/RpbqW
I clicked the RT link 5 times so you did nothing. How do you feel, basedboy cuck?
No proof it's even captured beyond the guy circling it. Until it shows up in a professional propaganda vid it's basically a guy circling it and talling shit until he gets out of dodge.
The "super tank" still had its engine running, Russia wont pass up this propaganda piece . A big counter to it being a propaganda piece in itself for the media.
The point is it can be taken by the Russians if they see fit, but it does depend on exactly where it is.
Honestly its funny how much these where hyped up only to fall to not only atgms, but helis, and drones, and prob arty.
The Russians where right they burn like the rest, And for the west to compete there has to be a type of economic war footing or economic mobilization. To the degree in which the west probably isnt prepared to cope with what is needed.
>The Russians where right they burn like the rest, And for the west to compete there has to be a type of economic war footing or economic mobilization. To the degree in which the west probably isnt prepared to cope with what is needed.
The rate at which the US has been sending gibs to ukraine tells me the US is willing to frick over its population for some weird grudge match on the otherside of the planet. I hate the government so much its unreal.
Ok John Smith.
they've given ukraine a pissy bit of change that's a small chunk of the annual military budget. it doesn't affect american people in any way
>economic war footing or economic mobilization
Majority of the stuff we're giving them is old shit that we had to either pay to maintain or pay to dispose of. Random bullshit from the 80s and 90s or older. Those Bradleys they got were probably paid for before you were born.
regardless they have gotten over 100 billion from the US alone. Frick ukraine give me a stimmy check.
>Frick ukraine give me a stimmy check.
No gibs for you. Get a job.
>The "super tank" still had its engine running
So what, you mongoloid? It was abandoned for a reason and with a thrown track you won't get it anywhere, engine running or no, unless you've got a recovery vehicle at hand. Which, being R*ssia, seems unlikely at this point.
There's video of a recovered, towed leo. The russkies might have captured it. Either way, after russians have lost literally thousands of tanks you goons are gloating over single digit losses.
Besides, they are just tanks. Plenty more will get destroyed. I'm not sure why vatniks thought they were supposed to be invincible; they were just supposed to be a significant upgrade, which they are.
>I'm not sure why vatniks thought they were supposed to be invincible
It's like some homosexual zigger version of gaslighting or whatever. They're trying to convince you that YOU said they were invincible, so they can go "LOOK HOW FOOLISH YOU ARE"
This, unless they show it hooked up to a recovery vehicle the Russians have captured jack shit.
>intact
>treads very clearly fricked up
Oh shit, they might find tech to win the cold war with that 😮 😮 😮
yes if i was a russian soldier i'd be very excited about seeing a running tank too
You have been spamming that video for two days. There is not a single evidence that they managed to take it from there.
>You have been spamming that video for two days. There is not a single evidence that they managed to take it from there.
More likely they emplaced demolition charges and left. Ukies are then permanently minus 1 Leo2a6 and minus 11 Bradleys and 1 minesweeper. Thats what I've would have done.
We will see it in moscow soon.
very useful in the war indeed
That might even demoralize the vatBlack folk since they'll see what humans can build and what their subhuman brethren gave them.
It might demoralize Russians (but they are already demoralized).
It won't demoralize vatniks, because:
>look how expensive it looks
>it probably uses more gas than ours
>look, it stopped just from loosing a track
>so fragile compare to ours, right?
>must be so overpriced
Russia would sacrifice 100 mobiks to kill a single nato soldier and call it a victory
Word for word the cope Lada drivers engage in.
>it probably uses more gas than ours
That's the funny thing. Even though Western tanks are bigger and heavier, they go faster (especially in reverse gear) while also using LESS gas. Because Western motors aren't complete dogshit.
>must be so overpriced
They must think the same regarding infantry losses as well since they barely consider themselves human and glee with each actual human they kill.
well there was the video of the Mariupol BTR4 or what its called and they praising it to the high heavens how good it was...
>go there
>make video
>claim its capture
>run away before the are get HIMARSed /shell
>post video for the twitter offensive
How was it captured?
Doubtful they would be able to repair the track, so they would have to get their own heavy armour or recovery unit out there through an extensive AT minefield away from their own cleared lanes... to drag it back ... through an extensive AT minefield.
i'd assume the russians know where the safe paths are.
You sure about that
That's an Ukrainian BMPT running through Ukrainian mines.
How devious of them to paint Zs on their vehicles and drive them into mines
Ah, thank you for clarifying, fellow native English speaker!
As I said, they would have to drag it to the cleared lanes, so they would have to clear a lane to the tank with their own kit.... ironically now leaving a complete cleared path for the UKR drones to see....
Wait, maybe they should have tried to capture it, would have ended up being the biggest self own of the war so far.
>How was it captured?
Legally speaking.
>How was it captured?
It went into captivity by its own power.
It's a working tank so a rare sight for a vatnik
>rt
Until they showed evidence that they managed to get that thing off of the minefield, its propaganda. In the video, its noted that the video looked like it took place when the assault happened.
The very fact that it was taken at the spot it was taken out implies they can't.
Also, keep in mind that this is in the greyzone, so chances are that the ukies also have a 155mm sighted squarely at said leopard, ready to delete whatever is trying to tow it back.
>rt
Why do you cite fake news site?
>rt
geez
Until there's a video or pics of the tank inside a Russian garrison then there's no way to tell if they are lying again or not, for now there's only that video of Russians soldiers picking up supplies and weapons from the wreaked vehicles
Monkey got the artifact of the advanced civilization. Monkey will use it to kill da Boss. Vatnik will be da Boss by himself.
oh no, they'll immediately start mass producing clones with their impressive R&D and manufacturing industries
Meanwhile the ukies have captured or destroyed around 60 T-90s alone
I'm surprised russia managed to get 60 of them functional and to the front line
Russia still has a decent number of T90s they refuse to send to the front in fear of them being destroyed.
It really is impressive how long the russians have managed to used one disabled probing convoy as a propaganda piece.
This is probably the best proof Russia hasn't done shit for months because if they did and had a scrap of circumstantial photographic evidence they would NEVER shut up about it.
They might have gotten a Leopard and bunch of Bradleys so in their propaganda world that no only means totall collapse of Ukraine but total western shortage of armored vehicles.
This is going to be the equivalent of that one tank from early in the war that shot the Ukrainians at close range when they thought it was their buddies coming back with a captured tank. They'll post it until the end of fricking time.
Frick deutchstanis they are troony's
They get gang raped in public Infront of their police and they do nothing
>Trannies out of nowhere
What's wrong big guy, participating in pride?
He hates trannies because he's got manboobs and sounds like an old lady over the phone.
dude russia have zero semiconductor manufacturing ability, they are unable to reverse engineer anything. This is why they buy all their chips from us
We know that the DPRK stole a microchip foundry a while back in the 1990s (they used to make bootleg Pentium 3s/4s) so in theory they could beg Kim to reproduce the older chips in a Leo.
Every single electronic component on the L2 A4 is already in the hands of the Chinese thanks to the turks.
Being highly cynical one might make the argument that the MIC will love these outcomes because the West will need brand new kit to maintain tech edge against peer enemies now they have our old kit in their dirty yellow hands.
The system is honestly not that complicated. It's got a bunch of gyroscopes, resolvers and some other sensors. It uses basic trigonometry and ballistic tables to calculate a firing solution, which the computer feeds the signals to the hydraulics/electric motors.
I think the really complicated thing is manufacturing something that is reliable and secure. I can imagine chink tanks cutting the loader's arm clean because the gun stabilization got crazy.
>the DPRK stole a microchip foundry
How is this even possible? Top zozzle
>workers arrived at the factory in Taiwan on Monday morning and it was gone
>right down to the foundations
>suddenly the nefarious intentions of the the company that opened down the road, the one that ordered 850 million helium balloons, became apparent
In the early 1990s the UN had a tech development effort that they scammed so hard they got a chip foundry out of it.
In the same period they used a Yakuza front company to build an entire cutting edge CnC/Automated rapid prototyping factory in Japan and somehow physically stole the entire thing, as in one day the factory was just an empty building and everything inside got shipped to the DPRK.
Ngl that is an impressive swindle. Norks can be very cunning when they want.
Got a link? I'm too moronic to find anything about it on google
almost definitely not. reverse-engineering microchips is very hard and then producing them from your reverse engineered designs is really really hard. (zeptobars / ken shirrif)
you'd have to reverse engineer the chips and then either redesign them onto your process or also redevelop the process used to make them.
if you've reverse engineered the chips, then you know enough about them to replace them with COTS chips.
If the norks are making pentium 4's they have 180 nm ish capability, whereas the west is on 4nm now. So they are still 15 years behind just in terms of the fabs they own. I mean I doubt anything on the Leo is that new anyway. Either way nothing is gonna happen soon
Wow they really are trying to pass off one win as like 20 wins from different angles aren’t they?
>the abandonment of the battle-ready hardware
The fricking tracks were blown off, unlike the scores of tanks left behind by the 1st guards tank division.
Within a single stroke of war the tide has shifted and russia finally has TIGE- wait no it's a leopard.
Sooo... can they service and repair it? Do they have the training to use it? Do they have the supply of ammo to fire it?
Because when Russians abandon their equipment Ukraine can use it because they are ALREADY USING THEM.
>NATO lost
NATO isn’t even fighting lol, they’re just giving Ukraine their old shit. Do you really think Russia would still be occupying Ukraine if they had been fighting NATO this whole time?
They also destroyed one (ištēn) Leo 2. It's over.
>6million+
>astronomical number for russians
I think nato spends more than that on ammo for training exercises. I really don't think the average pidor knows just how much money globohomosexual has to throw around.
>TASS
And the glavset keeps going. And nobody's listening.
T-72s, 80s and 90s have their turrets reach escape velocity
>*snore*
>1 Leopard is lost
>pic related
Been poop shitting
Lel, that video doesn't show the other bradleys that came later. It's between the two sets of photos. Russkies didn't capture shit. They weren't even able to deny it.
Isn't that Leo already repaired in Poland and back in Ukraine again?
I heard it was upgraded with a bunch of classified modules too
Not seeing any downed hohol aircraft. If they were making a proper attack, some of those would have appeared by now. So this really is a copefensive.
this one?
Russians also captured the recovery vehcile ;^)
Came here to post that.
Oh (You)
Leopard looks sad. I think it knows it let down its crew.
Russia capture recovery vehicle and hohols soldoer and now use them as slave to do all recovery*~~*~~*~~
god damn it's HAULING ASS
mirin the power
>Capture modern Western tank
>Can reverse engineer for their own gain
>Lack the knowledge and know how to actually develop their own systems
>Have to import western systems
>The current political climate
CYKA BLYAT
>we captured a leopard
>no you may not see it
>That photoshop flag
Did the good photoshoppers die in the war? That flag looks like shit
>Did the good photoshoppers die in the war?
Yes. Shills are due for next mogilization.
>this fricking image is still being circulated in 2000+20+3
Yikes.
Why not just post the actual source video, it's much more entertaining:
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1668533202602934274?t=96Zv8RfO2Rqs1hgC6YTJmA&s=19
how is that captured?
If they were right there standing next to them, why didn't they asset deny them?
>the newest and greatest NATO has to offer
That depends on the variant.
>Lol cope its the newest and greatest NATO has to offer
>L2A6
>build: 2001
>they are literally shaking and pissing and shidding themselves at NATO HQ at the thought of russkies dismantling the fire control system and software
And what are they gonna do with it, improve the three T-14 Armatas they have? kek
>russia loses 2000+ tanks and 7000+ various military vehicles
crickets chirping
>russia captures a NATO supplied tank
It's all over.
Fricking Russians, they are just sub Sahara albino Black folk living under a cargocult.
They didn’t even capture it
Well I guess they legally captured it (on tape)
RT doesn't work for me, but there was a video posted a couple days ago of Russian soldiers crawling over a Leopard. It looked like that one Leopard at the tree line they have been shown half a dozen points claiming it to be different vehicles at this point, and it ended up burning out, which makes sense. They got to it, looked inside, and then set it on fire before retreating to their positions.
>video shows the engine running from a Bradley instead of a Leopard
>somehow its a Leopard engine
good memes
Long time lurker here. As the time goes, mental gymnastics which z-Black folk employ to convince me that they are actually winning the 3 day war become more and more twisted and funny. Every fricking time I visit 4chins I get +50 happiness boost. Great stuff homosexuals, keep doing it, I like your autistic humor
Why not just scuttle it or bomb it from a drone etc instead letting it be captured
Out of curiosity, would the Ziggers even be able to resupply this tank if it needed more shells/fuel, or repair it if it gets damaged? Surely they don't have the proper ammo or tools.
>>The Russian Defense Ministry
I was just saying today while speaking with a family member, how much I trust the Russian government. They say the sky is green, that the moon is made of cheese, that communism is a good idea, that the USSR was a great idea, that Stalin was a master physicist and biologist that Lenin was loving and gentle, that they are fighting Nazis from Ww2 in Ukraine (although they must be very elderly). When the Russian government said that they would never invade Ukraine I said to myself, 'If the Russian ministry for Foreign Affairs says that Russia won't invade Ukraine they it must be true'. When the Russian government said the American government was lying about the Russian government preparing to invade Ukraine I said, Russian govement says it that just has to be true. To this day I do not believe there is a single Russian solder in Ukraine or engaged in combat with Ukrainians, just geriatric resurrected nazi Zombies that were dropped into Ukraine b y bats that were created in US Biowarefare labs in Ukraine (Russia said it so that mush be true to and since Russia is fighting 90 year old Nazis then the bats must be how they reach the Russian arms in Siberia which is why it is doing a smpecial military operation (The Russian government says there is NO war just a special military operation, so that must be true). So OP I know you are a liar because there is NO WAR, there is NO war in Ukraine, there is NO war between Leopard tanks and Russian soldiers and there is is NO invasion of Ukraine. You did not even mention the American biowarfare labs in Ukraine either that Russia said were there or the special bats. Credibility zero
>Credibility zero
Wrong. Russian government and state propaganda have a high NEGATIVE credibility, in that you can take their bullshit, either assume the exact opposite or swap the sides in their narrative, and you'll get surprisingly close to the truth.
is this that same set of vehicles they've been spamming pictures of for a week now? holy shit they're milking that
>www.rt.com
O my sides. a fricking RT link, have not seen that in ages. Just got to be true if RT said it kek.
turns out both sides of the war is being fought by slavs
pros: 2x dead slavs
cons: which ever side wins is a slave victory
Given you are a moronic baathist arab who works for yalla group spamming here for the Russian government so brown you vanish in a dungheap no one cares (you).
Are Russian recovery vehicles powerful enough to haul a Leopard 2? They weigh considerably more than Soviet tanks.
So, you are telling me previous to this Russia is so dumb and poor it couldn't bribe some Hispanic thirdie country to get the schematics?:
Those are competent turbo capitalist spics.
This raises a very obvious question. Since the Ukrainians had to have known where the tank was abandoned, why didn't they launch an artillery strike on it to prevent it from getting into Russian hands?
Is this goy's face going to eventually rub off?
>commissar generalovich, german hato tank has one-piece ammunition instead of two-piece
>da, comrade tovarish
>can we produce it?
>nyet, comrade tovarish
>commissar generalovich, german hato tank has high resolution infrared imager
>da, comrade tovarish
>can we produce it?
>nyet, comrade tovarish
>commissar generalovich, german hato tank has engine that not of sound like babushka dying of pneumonia
>da, comrade tovarish
>can we produce it?
>nyet, comrade tovarish
>commissar generalovich, german hato tank has reverse gear with high speed
>da, comrade tovarish
>can we produce it?
>nyet, comrade tovarish
and so on and so on
You did forget the fact even if by some divine inspiration they decided to try it both sanctions and corruption will end up with, well, you see pic related, supposedly a superior tank to the Leopard.
a game changer so to speak
Is there any person alive that doesn't hate these face grimace thumbnails?
The youtube algorithm promotes videos that have them. That's why people do them. He almost certainly knows how moronic it looks.
Wow.
Now Russian Army got 1 (one) modern tank
Well you better show some successes on the 478th day of the 3rd day of the special military operation.
Nice, I hope they put it on display on the red square. Maybe even do a tour with it in other non-puppet states like China, Iran etc.
>He remarked that some of their engines were still running.
So they weren’t completely destroyed like we heard for the past 5 days? Wow Russians lying who would have guessed
and? how many t-90M have been captured / destroyed by Ukraine? Congrats on capturing a 20 year old tank though.
are you ok?
Yeah I'm fine
Are you ok?
the Frankfurt israeli troony is their latest cope, the level of frantic Russian bot posts implies a major calamity
>The Rockefellers
>European royalty
>Global israeli cabals
It's everyone other than a German putting make up and lipstick on then going to open his child brothels in Berlin
It's everyone other than that guy
>hoholbros
Learn how to spell hohol, please.
Russia said T-62's were superior to Leopard 2's, so what's the point of bragging? Congrats, you destroyed something like you claimed you would after months of saying it was nook time if they were given over.
They should send more leopards, challys, and abrahams because it would be funny to see wrecked wunderwaffe after so much dick sucking.
>literally everything in that picture failed to kill even one (1) Leo 2
LMAO
Why are vatBlack folk jerking off the Ka-52 like it doesn't get shot down every other week?
>Western equipment is better that Soviet shit
>Waah you said Western equipment is indestructible but here's a pic showing it's not indestructible waah you said it's invulnerable can naver be lost it's magical that's what you said waaah waaah
The absolute state of Vatniks
If true, I hope it spawns a bunch of memes saying the same thing about every good piece of German technology until people get sick of her.
Found the trainer. God damn. The POWER of HATO.
I heard this news, or at least the headline, earlier today and thought it was new. Turns out it's the same shit getting spammed yet again. Does this mean Russia doesn't have any other wins besides a couple companies of vehicles being disabled and like 4 dudes killed, several days ago?
probably several more dudes on ukraine's side( such is war blyat) but if they disabled more vehicles we'd have seen non stop footage of them by now.
I do like how vatniks are laughing at the losses Ukraine is suffering in their offensive. But they don't stop to think - how the frick did it come to this? How did the supposed second greatest military force on the planet go from 'Warsaw in 3 days, Berlin in a week, Paris in two weeks and London in a month' to 'Haha you lost stuff making an offensive and forcing us into defensive positions after we started the war! Hahahaah!'.
People have been waging wars against monkeys for so long that they forgot what the frick a peer conflict looks like. They also drank so much of their cool aid that they thought the tiny amount of technological progress made between 80s and today qualifies as being so much superior that it's not even a competition.
uh, yes, 40 years of progress actually does make it not a competition. What specific systems are you talking about that are 40 years newer than what the other side is using? 40 years is the difference between the M1 Abrams and the Sherman, or the F-22 and the F-4
i sincerely doubt russia would even be capable of maintaining these pieces of shit let alone learning anything of value from them. the war is right now, not 30 years from now when a new generation of fit, competent adult men can be born and raised to conduct R&D and replace their current population who are currently decomposing in foreign soil
>Russians finally examine a Leo 2.
>"Where's the ammo?"
>"Wait, is that a Blast Door?"
>"They keep ALL their ammo behind a Blast Door?!"
>"How is a tank supposed to cook off if all the ammo is behind a Blast Door?
>"It doesn't?"
>"Blyat"
>"Contact Supreme Leader Putin. Tell him we may need to revise our damage assessments."
>They keep all their ammo behind a blast door
ayyylmao
Where were you at the start of the year? The whole of Western media were saying this
Turns out a 25mm aluminium shitbox is not gonna be a wunderwaffe
>The whole of Western media were saying this
May we see it?
Should I continue? This really isn't hard, but it seems you have memory-holed it
That's a pretty reasonable text about western tanks.
I mean this is already proven true, it was a game-changer. Look how few casualties they had from a pretty catastrophic failed attack. Western vehicles are way safer for crews, and when force quality is such a big factor like it is in this war that's a pretty big deal
>We've now moved the goalposts of Gamechanger from breaking the Ziegfried line to it doesn't explode when hit (except when it does)
why must /k/ defend the dribblings of some journalist somewhere? You think we're writing this shit? What does it have to do with anything? Russian "press" is pretty deranged when it comes to spouting off about Russian capabilities
Why are these goalposts our problem? People on /k/ haven't been jerking off over the apparent invincibility of Leos because we're not moronic
Oh really? Should I really go back through the archives and disprove that. Lmao
you can probably find people talking about Leos being superior in every way to T-series tanks, which was and is true. Doubt you'd find many people that think 30 of them would change the course of the war on their own
I've heard from quite a while back people took shit on Leos for, among other things, really poor ammo rack placement, because simply taking a potshot at the tank is very likely to result in blowing it up.
listen you stupid fricking Black person. The Leo is a superior tank to the T-72, especially the shitty dragged-out-of-reserves rustbuckets being fielded in large quantities at present. Fire control, stabilisation, sights, crew survivability, etc.
The level of superiority varies quite a bit according to the model of the leo in question, what additional armour it has, countermeasures, etc.
The latest and greatest T-72 derivatives such as the T-72B3M are much more of a challenge on paper, but they are also mostly destroyed.
Either way a direct hit from a T-72 main gun will likely put a hole in a Leo unless it happens to land in the absolute most armoured spot.
If there's people on /k/ truly jerking off about the leos being some invincible super weapon they are just dumb Black person war tourists like yourself.
It is a superior tank. But being a superior tank will still result in them getting merked in attacks on fortified positions. We'll be seeing plenty more dead leos; this might be something that causes butthurt among normies but not among the weirdos that hang out on this board
good evening, saar
Yeah, if Leos or any western army tech were invincible, Ukros would simply steamroll to Moscow… vatnigg logic is strange.
You're the one that posted the pic saying "Gamechanger". Not our fault you tried to move the goalpost forwards.
I mean even if certain media outlets are frothing at the mouth, they're the media, that's what media does. Nobody on /k/ cares, because we're interested in reality
>Nobody on /k/ cares, because we're interested in reality
This is a joke right?
Uh so where do they say leopards are immortal gods ready to take T90s in a 1v50? Did anyone suggest there weren't gonna be any losses?
I don't suppose many people literally said that, no. But the
>vatniks are over and finished
was plentiful.
are over and finished
Yeah, that's still true
I am not /k/ enough but there was a battle in Israel where some commander mopped the floor with the enemy, using just one modern tank from Israel.
but that's the point. the commander knew the tank, while these poor guys are tossed into whatever tanks/IFVs and expected to perform at their absolute best.
That headline is accurate. You're melting with anger and damage control.
>Where were you at the start of the year? The whole of Western media were saying this
Post all of these western media articles jerking off to cold war equipment.
You know what an edge means in English right? It means slight advantage. You know what could means in English right? It means maybe. You know what Wunderwaffe means in German or at least its transferred meaning in English right? Alright now tie it all together and check what you said.
the hull stowage doesn't have any protection and if it gets hit the whole tank blows into bits, which is what happened with those obliterated turk leos
When will the degenerate west finally design and field a modern tracked IFV?
When will the corrupt east? There's only like 10 units of this shit built ever.
10 more than the west ever had lol
>literal wunderwaffen
Yeah, I'm sure those 10 IFV will take Kiev
Imaginary weapons are the best ones
there are more pumas than t15 around
cope and seethe maybe the German army can get their 4 operational pumas staffed by the end of next year lol
>the US doesn't have anything newer than a bradley
Nice mechanized army you have there
41 all operational 🙂
one being worked on due to fire
I sat in a leo 2 once outside the Frankfurt school of medicine
I am now a flourishing trans woman
When will the British army be equipped with their AJAX wunderwaffle?
Seems like the whole world has problems replacing tracked IFV's when the CV90 is the only newer one that's readily available.
Estimates put the Ajax as entering service around 2040 at the earliest.
MOD are saying fully operational by 2028.
Send it to the Russians, it will kill them faster.
Russians finally have their hands on technology from the 1970s it's actually over
>upgraded to the SOTA equipment
>just shitty old 70s technology
Which is it?
That's rhetorical. Obviously the answer is "whichever is convenient to me at the moment".
Yeah, it's State of the Art...
...in the eyes of Russia
>I've read unconfirmed reports on Twitter that allegedly Ukrainians have possibly reached a region near the azov sea.
They're complete bullshit. The most successful axis is still in heavy combat in Urozhaine, the Bakhmut Axis isn't heading towards Azov, and the Robotnye axis has made no progress whatsoever while taking heavy casualties.
Can't be bothered to read this thread. Has the Black person OP posted any evidence that is photographic in nature to support his propaganda claim
It's been on 2ch for a few days now. Evidently, nobody can be assed to make the Black personlicious low bitrate audioless version with subtitles to post it here.
I've seen the video. It's just some russian soldiers looting shit from the column before running away.
It doesn't matter if Russia captures all of Ukraine's Leopards
The high IQ take is that they'll give the tech to Chyna who will get kraut wunderwaffe and will mass produce it for their own use
They'll also auction one for pajeets, Iran and North Korea
Of the Ukrainians have time to play around like that, what does that say to russia? Sounds like Russia failed to break their spirits despite the bombardments of critical infrastructures and rando apartments.
Stupid the xolxolz with their fancy 'funerals' and 'coffins' are a sign that they have been corrupted impossibly by the decadent westoids.
Because printing ANOTHER bajillion dollars in coof gibs will fix the inflation this time for sure.
It wont, but instead of spending it on ukraine why not give it back to tax payers? Itd be the same thing in terms of effect on inflation.
Isn't the money from the Pentagon's already 800 billion budget, so cutting aid won't do much other than sending all of that to Israel lol
>Isn't the money from the Pentagon's already 800 billion budget, so cutting aid won't do much other than sending all of that to Israel lol
I hate how government agencies think
>gee we have been allotted this money
>better spend it all regardless of how banal it is since it was given to us
Because that's how it works you fricking homosexual. Budgets in both gov and businesses are like that - there's a predicted 'effect' by dollar value calculated, and then the entity doing the budgeting calculates how much 'effect' they'll require for the year and forks over the dollar value. The agencies are supposed to spend it all because the parent entity is giving that money to receive back a calculated amount of return on that investment.
If the DoD maths out that it'll take 800 billion annually to be able to fight two near peer wars and win then they'll budget for that. The DoD doesn't turn around and say "Hey we've managed to achieve most of our main goals for 700 billion, have a 100 back", they'll take that 100 billion and spend it on overkill - or in this case, they'll give it to Ukraine for the most dollar efficient spending ever for destroying the Russian military. You're a moron for not seeing this.
Giving money to taxpayers would drive spending on basic goods. Higher demand of consumer goods = more inflation. Dumping our 50 year old weapons and ammo just provides a few thousand extra union jobs to American citizens without the heavy inflation hit
Any money the Gov injects into the middle class and below will be sucked up by corporate elites raising prices to suck it all out of the economy into trust funds, investment properties, holiday homes and vacations.
Anyone suggesting that higher corporate or top bracket income tax rates are bad for the economy deserves the guillotine.
>why not give it back to tax payers?
moronic, the point of taxpayers is paying not getting money. Im not even being edgy, the flow of taxes is from the population to the government not in reverse. All the gov can do is tax less
Look, I'm not opposed to the govt handing out old Bradleys and GMLRS ammo to taxpayers, but I don't think it would be as beneficial as you're implying.
The assertion that Russia captured western equipment seems to be based on the video (singular) already posted to /k/, where Russian soldiers took a smartphone video of themselves looting infantry weapons off one disabled leopard (the same leopard already photographed from multiple perspectives by Russian propagandists.)
Whether or not they actually recovered the vehicle or not is questionable, as Ukrainian forces seem to have maintained pressure on that front. The Russians may not have had time to bring in any vehicle capable of towing it.
Additionally, there is now footage of Ukrainians using a maintenance vehicle to drag a leopard with a damaged track. This may in fact be the leopard in question.
Eventually, the Russians will undoubtedly capture western tanks and vehicles in some quantity, but a lack of convincing evidence in this case leads me to believe that the Russians are engaging in the only behavior that their military is exceptionally well-drilled in: lying.
P.S., kill all Russians
These subhumans are just posting rt links now without an ounce of shame.
us inflation is down to 4% as of today, stop gargling cum up
From Kiev to Bakmuht to a western tank...
...
...
>HA HA
>you must fight inflation by flooding the market with more free money
In all seriousness, not to sound like a zigger but the offensive has been an unmitigated disaster so far. The good news is that Ukraine seems to be savvy enough to realize these assaults are stupid and aren't going anywhere, thus they haven't thrown away most of their kit like the Russians have. So I'm wondering what their plan B is if they can't dislodge the Russians in the south. They need to keep up the pressure on Russia but they also need to silence the peace cucks in the west so they can keep getting support despite the lack of any significant accomplishments on the battlefield.
We are only a few days in anon, iirc Kherson was like two months and we heard all the same shit we are hearing now back then. I'd wait until the Ukies lift their media gag order before making any determinations on how successful they've been
Even optimistic forecasts are that this is going to be pretty slow going, and measured in weeks if not months.
However, we're only one week in and the Russians have already committed a sizable reserve to the Velikya Novosilka area for counterattacks, and while they've slowed the Ukrainians advance they haven't managed to turn it back. Any talk of "crumple zones" is bullshit to disguise that the AFU brigades are already putting enough pressure on Russian defenses to penetrate, albeit slowly.
>western tanks are useless; please stop sending them
>random nation
>giving
Oh no,no,no. See. Ukraine is going to Owe the US for every ounce of military materiel that we gave them and they didn't give back. That's a Staggaring sum that our Grandkids can hold over Ukraine's head. Ukraine with it's abundant natural resources, educated populace, and established industry will actually be able to pay off if we give them generous terms. Generous terms the US will happily give, in exchange for...considerations
another dead leo 2 in ukraine
>totally unrecoverable
>recoverable crash
>snow on the ground
>picture is from ylilauta.org, so finnish
What a lazy, stupid lie.
>snow
zBlack person cope
>zigger prostitutes now propagating leopard cope with decades old pictures from training areas in other countries
hahahaha
it's the defence budget. This year it's being spent on bleeding one of your principle rival's white. Seems like good value, seeing as they spaff the same amount of money every year. Not to mention you just demolished a major arms export competitor
We aren't giving them all cash dipshit, it's aid in that amount, aka gear, food, fuel and training
Giving out free money causes more inflation.
Buckle up and deal with it
Yeah it's going to bite the Russians in the ass. The Ukrainians will certainly be happy to put their equipment back to work.
>completely pretending to forget all the abandooned russian tanks at the beginning of the war
>will almost assuredly give some worthless explanation for why its different
>hoholbros
Hohol. Learn to spell the god damn word.
VatBlack folk really upped their shit propaganda. not in effectiveness of course, just volume.
>source: RT
Even if it was true, so what? Is this supposed to be the crippling blow that finally knocks Ukraine out? Is it a desperate attempt at coping over the hundreds of vehicles towed off the battlefield by tractors to be refurbished by or parted out to maintain other Ukrainian vehicles?
Seriously. This is even sadder than spending a week screaming about disabling a few brads. Stop embarrassing yoursleves.
already posted 3 days ago stupid vatnik
nobody cares
This is normal for western tanks to not being abble to witstand artillery fire?
is it normal for the armor at the top to be this thin? it looks like it ould be pierced by those old WWI anti-tank rifles.
40mm, so yeah a PTRD would go through it at point-blank range
>This is normal for western tanks to not being abble to witstand artillery fire?
They aren't expected to survive artillery at all. Any modern artillery one-shot tank. We win the war by preventing enemy artillery from firing in the first place.
So them being able to survive russian artillery? It mean the russian are throwing some really weak shit.
>blatant sosach raid
Did Abu kill your shithole so badly that you need to seek your 15 rubblemass here?
Well they can go ahead and try towing it out when it's located right on the frontline in a minefield.
it's over hoholbros how can we possibly compete