last time i had a drill that had no power and wouldnt put screw in all the way.
it also looks like these little pieces of shit dont wanna hold.
house is like 1900-1920? plaster on studs? no fricking clue
help a moron out, please
last time i tried to use these, it didnt work
^^^im trying to make a backpack rack. i also have this rack but i like that board better becuase its about 3feeet long and i could use way more than 3 hooks.
i have a home depot around the corner and a stud finder. there are 2 studs on the right i tried to tap into but they didnt hold. maybe i should grab a fresh 2x4 and cut it to stretch across three studs?
iirc first i tried to tap into studs, the board ripped out after 6months, than i tried to reattach with those little drywall anchors and those failed immediatly. wat do? i guess buy longer 2x4
16" on center is standard, 24" on center happens too.
If your rack is a board that is 3 ft, you should be able to hit at least 2 studs. Then you don't need those anchors, which won't work for what you want in lath anyway. Even for a heavy school backpack, cabinet screws should work, if put into studs, and have a nice cosmetically appealing head.
Something like #8 x (thickness of your rack board + 2"). You'll lose less than 1/2" going through the plaster and lath, leaving roughly 1.5" into the studs. Typical screw boxes come with a driver.
I would drill holes in the rack, over and under the horizontal centerline, for where the screws are going to penetrate. Go for equidistant for cosmetics and strength. Use a 1/8" drill bit. But, depending on the stud's make-up, if it was new, soft pine, then no. Let the screw cut the threads. But since this sounds like an old building, the studs may be very dry and hard, so drilling could prevent cracking.
That will relieve stress on the wooden backing bar of the rack, prevent it from splitting. It will also make sure the screws don't 'walk', changing angle as they pass through the rack. You'll primarily be using the clamping force of the cabinet heads against the rack, to squeeze it against the wall. And the sheer force of a couple of heavy backpacks will be tolerated well by #8 screws, arranged over/under, with two in each stud.
Use toggle bolts, drywall anchors suck
This. Pop toggles are nice and easy and hold much more weight than the shitty plastic plug anchors as well. Pop toggle in pic is the white plastic one that looks like an IUD,
Or go into a stud
You are both wrong. A dowel is both easier and more sturdy.
To hold something to a wall? No, don't be stupid.
works fine. predrill a hole so that when finally you insert a screw it will expand the dowel slightly and that in turn will hold it against the gipsum(is that the word, im not american).
after drilling put dowel in wall then screw in larger screw...
very little drywall is actually made out of gypsum so it's not the default word for it. also it's considered a material more than an object so "the gypsum" would conjure an image more of a pile of powder than something made of gypsum.
everything hanging in my house is on toggle bolts. I could swing from my paper towel roll holder.
overkill and if you need to hang something so heavy off drywall make sure you use more than one because the drywall will fail before the anchor does
OP didn't predrill properly
I normally pilot drill or push toggles through the plaster by force. Predrill is a misnomer haha
I normally only use the metal twist anchors. The plastic ones like to warp and tear as you're driving them in. Both will hold about 50lbs of simple downward force, but with any forces pulling away from the wall most companies rate them at about 1/4 of their max. This is why TVs will pull the top row of these bastards out.
Toggles catch more drywall from behind so they have better tear out strength. Hitting a stud is still best.
Drywall is basically 1/2" of chalk. Old plaster behaves more like cement. It's brittle and harder to drill into. It will still accept the metal anchors. It will be harder to get toggles to open up inside because there's a layer of lath behind the plaster.