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Is NATO’s plan for Ukies really to just zerg rush with 100s of tanks through open fields when Russia has Air & Artillery superiority along with defences prepared?
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Is NATO’s plan for Ukies really to just zerg rush with 100s of tanks through open fields when Russia has Air & Artillery superiority along with defences prepared?
>Air Superiority
lol
>Artillery Superiority
kek
no, moron
Wait, so everybody understood everything and Ukrainian ass was not in the ass?
I wouldn't worry about it.
why not, it worked for the other slavic army.
No, it's to conduct large-scale maneuver warfare, which is a concept completely foreign to the Russian military
>Is NATO’s plan for Ukies really to just zerg rush with 100s of tanks through open fields when Russia has Air & Artillery superiority along with defences prepared?
That appears to be the plan. Understrength Ukrainian formations will be going right up the gullet into heavily fortified positions in open fields. Maybe they're hoping to achieve a local breakthrough in the Zaporizhzhia region or somewhere else. All of the discussion I have seen of this Ukrainian offensive seem to rely on the Russians never mounting a counter-offensive. Very odd.
/k/ope and seethe
>All of the discussion I have seen of this Ukrainian offensive seem to rely on the Russians never mounting a counter-offensive. Very odd.
All of the discussion I have seen of this Ukrainian offensive seem to rely on the Russians never mounting a counter-offensive. Very odd.
The idea is that the Russians wouldn't have the resources to mount a counteroffensive
Every formation Ukraine is committing to this offensive of theirs is understrength. This is the last hurrah before aid gets pulled (because it ran out) and they are forced into negotiations or simply abandoned like the South Vietnamese and Afghans were in prior conflicts where the USA directed the show. It is no problem for me if you continue to consume deceptive news that paints a rosy picture for Ukraine but know I will be humiliating you once that rosy picture gets crushed by reality on the battlefield.
Z more weeks
It is Russia that has had their weird ass fantasies crushed by this war. Really what’s going to happen if this counter offensive fails is that operations are going to get smaller and the war will settle down
Hilarious how you vatnik morons always bring up Vietnam and Afghanistan, but fail to realize Ukraine will fight you for decades if it has to, even if you win the conventional part of the war. You're delusional.
If Russia could break the Chechens they can break the Ukes. Genocide and torture works wonders.
Chechens were 1 million people and a small geographic area. If the ruling class weren't traitor thieves, the Chechen revolt would have been crushed, and laughably so.
If Mariupol and Bucha didn't break them I don't think anything else will.
Chechens suffered atrocities like that that strengthened their resolve. But in the end Russia could commit so many more atrocities than the Chechens could imagine.
>break the Chechens
>paying them billions a year to rape your reporters and mobiks
Yeah Russia really showed them.
1 million Chechens compared to 40 million Ukrainians. Yea, I'm sure it will go great for you ivan.
>If Russia could break the Chechens
You couldn't break the Chechens, Boris. You lost twice and now you pay them billions to not rape you a third time.
Couldn't russians just offer them cash from the start? It would save everyone a lot of troubles.
This whole war started because Russia didn't want to pay rent in Crimea.
They did, but the guy they were bribing lost control of the country
Unironically Putin could have probably offered Ukraine autonomy and a large cash payout per person and taken over the country for much less.
>break the Chechens
by paying them jizya
>This is the last hurrah before aid gets pulled (because it ran out)
Believing that the US govt will stop funnelling money to defence contractors is the weirdest fantasy I've seen in a while.
>This is the last hurrah before aid gets pulled (because it ran out)
Defense contactors are working overtime for the first time in years and making money hand over fist. You think those in Washington who represent the areas where production sites are located are going to kill the golden goose?
any plan that relies on the west running out of money is a bad plan
>day 427 of the 3 day special military operation
>this means the invaders are winning
?????
can't wait until russian subhuman trash gets its ass kicked back to the international border
A counteroffensive with what exactly? what's left of their tanks and APCs after they got annihilated in the winter so-called offensive?
>stupid vatBlack person frogposter
i think russia will lose if china doesnt arm them with modern chinese weapons. russian trash doesnt work.
Well Pooh Bear told Puccia to get fricked so I guess that's it for them
fall of puzziya means fall of china.
Not really. If Russia falls, then China still has their main export markets
>china.
China has literally gotten the best outcome of all the parties involved in this war. It will be seen as a masterpiece of geostrategic manouvering toward a new multipolar world with an absolute minimum of effort
China doesn't want democracy in Russia. Besides that they're not too fussed with the outcome either way. I'm sure they would prefer a Russian victory but they're not going to push for it.
They are dragging the war out as much as possible to level the place, like Syria.
bruh no one has hair air superiority in this war since the beginning. a massive western armor push (at night because lmao the west can actually afford proper night vision optics) would be absolutely DEVASTATING to russian forces.
have a nice day, frogBlack person.
Why can't you make a normal thread?
Yes, and it's going to work too
>Is NATO’s plan for Ukies really to just zerg rush with 100s of tanks through open fields
yeah
dumb frogposter
>zerg rush with 100s of tanks through open fields
Idk man, it worked pretty well in the Kharkiv breakthrough.
It describes every successful offensive of this war. The failures were zerg rushing 100s of tanks through cities or minefields.
The trick is finding a field that's actually open.
Wasn't that literally the Soviet Union's strategy if the Fulda Gap became reality?
soviet deep battle was to focus on attacking the least defended areas of the NATO line after the defenders had been draw out
the intent being that taking a lot of physical distance to threaten the flanks of what they need to defend was preferrable to trying to tackle hardpoints directly
so they would initially attack on a broad front with their T-62s and T-72As to test NATO defenses before committing their T-72Bs and T-80s into weak areas
artillery was meant to be main killer, maneuver units would be used to shape the battlefield and then pin the enemy units while artillery then destroyed them
the opposite of NATO tactics, where artillery was used to shape the battlefield and suppress defenders while maneuver units would destroy them
>armys using artillery as a main killer against a defending force
I never understand why anyone thought this was a good idea unless you got precision munitions
I know that artillery is a very big killer in war but most of those kills happen when the enemy is attacking and not against dug in defenders unless you got a monstrous amount of artillery with no counter battery fire
Or Am I just moronic and seeing it wrong?
>Russia has Air & Artillery superiority
bruh you already made a 60,000 shells a day thread
>Russia has Air & Artillery superiority
Trolling is forbidden outside of /b/.
>Is NATO’s plan for Ukies really to just zerg rush with 100s of tanks through open fields when Russia has Air & Artillery superiority along with defences prepared?
Neither side has made meaningful use of air power and the Russian artillery advantage is a meme because of how shit their fire control is. And the Russians have hastily prepared defenses that aren't likely to stop a serious attempt at a breakthrough. More importantly, when there is a breakthrough, the Russian military simply doesn't have enough mechanized reserves to mount an effective response nor is there any capacity for defense-in-depth. This leads to results like the disastrous "Kiev feint" and the "gesture of goodwill" in Kharkiv. And also, you are vastly overestimating NATOs control over Ukraine.