Diamond sharpening stones wear out eventually too (and frick you anons who said they dont) edition
What are your favorite knife sharpening methods? I've been considering buying a grind wheel to use to unfrick some of the cheapo knives i have that have totally uneven and bad edges from the factory
I have a slow speed grinder and CBN wheels for my lathe tools, and shaptons and atoma diamond plates for knives, planes, and chisels.
I think I do a reasonable job but about $1000 in I realized it's a stupid expenditure of effort to get my woodworking tools hair popping sharp because they're instantly going to lose that edge and be no sharper than they were off my cheapo $20 Paul sellers endorsed chinesium diamonds
I mostly use my knives for whittling, stripping bark, cutting walking sticks and cutting up cardboard at work so my blades will dull quickly too. But mainly i just want to even out the edges of these cheapo knives ive got and will continue to get because i dont need any 200 dollar knife to cut walking sticks and boxes with
This. If you watch actual leather craftsman, before every hide, they re-sharpen. 5 strokes, and then one back to remove the burr. You can literally use a rock. Razor blades (like gillette) are only sharpened to 600 grit.
The whole sharpenophile thing is hilarious.
I like Japanese natural stones because they are a fun challenge and feel really good to use. The edge they produce is really excellent.
Why can't I sharpen my straight razor to 600 grit and get a comfortable shave with it?
> like stone
It’s a primal instinct to like it, much like the taste of smoked meat.
gillettes aren't sharp, they're some of the dullest razor blades on the market.
and that's to say nothing of the autism that goes into straight edge sharpening.
Shut up homosexual
I agree with this sentiment with only one general exception. There are a few use cases where those first few cuts are the sole point of the blade. For example, a diver might want a blade to be that sharp because seconds can mean life or death if you're being dragged down. A butcher wants a sharp knife because it means less suffering for the animal. I would imagine solders want their blades sharp, etc.
Personally I just keep my blades sharp so I can show off my paper cutting skills to my fellow knife nerds. It really is completely unnecessary.
>acknowledge the autism
I’m proud of you anon, that’s a good first step.
>I would imagine soldiers want their blades sharp
a grunt's knife is 1000x more likely to be used as a shovel than as a weapon. the 1-in-a-million spec ops turbo glowies might actually use a knife for killing, but regular armed forces will never put edge to flesh.
I use a Harbor Freight belt sander flipped upside down
>piece of float glass
>spray adhesive
>sandpaper
all you need. reddit stones, lapping plates, whatever the frick, obsolete forever.
Nothing says "superior" like spending more money over a matter of months to get a turboshit experience because you're too deep into the poverty mindset of not spending a little more upfront to avoid a massive running cost.
lmao, woodworkers have been using sandpaper on a piece of glass longer than you've been around you know-nothing homosexual. frick off and don't fricking reply to me again stupid b***h.
Let me put it in terms your wrangler can understand:
I can buy 1 can of spray adhesive or I can buy 1 1000 grit Naniwa Lobster stone
I can buy 4 cans of spray adhesive or I can buy 1 1000 grit Naniwa Professional stone
sandpaper didnt even exist when all the good pieces were built.
when sandpaper made its appearance, machines were well established for decades already. Im sure the larpers of that time flocked to it thou, just like today when they are in need to sell you another hack
These do wear out but you can sharpen a knife at least 500 times with one and they cost $8 for a set of 4
Used to do this thing but I’ll never go back from these cheap metal diamond stones
Where do you get them this cheap and can I get them in Yurop
Amazon but seems the price has gone up, it’s €14 for 4 now. Stumpy nubs says these cheap double layer ones will get water between them or whatever but I’ve never had that happen
>Diamond sharpening stones wear out eventually too (and frick you anons who said they dont) edition
>What are your favorite knife sharpening methods? I've been considering buying a grind wheel to use to unfrick some of the cheapo knives i have that have totally uneven and bad edges from the factory
Diamond stones from amazon. 400-1000 for knives. Then 8000 natural stone for chisels.
A piece of leather in the end.
I have a bunch of stones, mini belt sanders, disc grinders, etc. But my favourite and most used go-to piece of equipment is a big Norton silicon carbide double-grit combination stone.
Yeass a knoife autist thread!
Get a $8 Smith’s pull-thru pocket sharpener. It werks.
what are those lil short wide blades good for like the green one?
For using all day at work instead of a box cutter and not freaking out the normies.
I carry them horizontal on my belt like between my left pocket and belt buckle with the handle facing towards my junk and you can’t see them at all under a shirt and it’s super easy to grab with the right hand.
Also as far as they’re utility, what do use a knife for beside food prep that requires more than an inch of blade? Especially EDC stuff, you don’t really need 4”+ of tacticool that makes normies think you torture stray cats in your spare time.
Okay namegay, i don't want to be lectured about "don't be tacticool" when you carry some gay horizontal sheath braded fiber hilted mall ninja lookin blades just to cut boxes with at work and including your sunglasses in the pic to boot. get out of here bro
>Tripgay*
> possible hidden genius
Hey, are you using silicone oil on your oilstone to sharpen?
He's obviously using it for receptive anal sex.
stop fricking replying to tripgays dumbass
>cheapo knives
Shit sharpening kit for shit knives:
- ceramic dinner plate for honing
- piece of leather to rub your penile with
- shitloads of free sandpaper + float glass sheet or two (give it back Jamal)
this seems like a pain and inferior experience. I'm not that broke, i can afford some actual stones. i just get cheapo knives cause the really nice knives i've had the past honestly didn't hold up much better the main difference i found was that the really expensive knives came with proper edges and are much more symmetrical straight from the factory. and since i find honing blades relaxing and interesting anyway i might as well just get cheapo blades and straighten them up myself and put a proper edge angle on them
>western whetstone
:/
>japanese whetstone
😮
Every single time.
I really like whetstones so those are what I use. After wearing out a diamond stone as my coarse / flattening stone I went with the traditional silicon carbide flattening stone, a coarse whetstone, and I keep the flattening stone flat with plateglass and sandpaper. I dont use sandpaper for the better stones since it could embed grit, but the coarse silicon flattening stone doesn't have that issue.
File and a 1"x3" stone that goes maybe 400-600 grit.
$10 double sided stone that sharpens everything to a razor point. it's so shitty I don't even know what grain either side is. why do you need anything more
Electrosharpening
When i was a kid, i used that to sharpen a pencil to give my buddies shitty tattoos. It werks.
I use those cheap as frick two sided stones. It's not perfect but it's more than enough to get a nice sharp knife for doing shit with. I guess you could use it to rough a knife then use a strap to get it polished, I don't care about that though since it just works as is.
The only difference between cheap and expensive ceramic stones is that the expensive ones are much harder and therefore a lot longer lasting and somewhat more versatile.
just bought a 8" trans ark, cut in germany, for 50€
Funny how that shit is 1/4th the price of Dans who literally owns a quarry there. tells you about that markup
What's a good book on this subject (or God forbid a youtube channel but I'd much rather read something)
>God forbid a youtube channel
While we're waiting for the good book suggestion, if you're bored watch a minute or so of this video where this guy polishes a tool to cut a gear https://youtu.be/AN0rYzOvMyg?t=742
I don’t think I’ve ever bothered to sharpen a knife, ever. But I have some larp diamond stones and stuff, just in case I ever do.
I wanna leave this here for any fellow likers of whetstones, especially splash-and-go.
I mostly sharpen my carpentry hand tools.
background: Most wood people use a progression of shapton 1000, 5000, 8000 as the default. I think this is a shit progression. For one, shapton's 5000 is far too close in micron size to their 8000. (see https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VaTf3MXuwuvH-QLwOci4f9B9Zhkbuu1wjoSCZIUsR-o/preview/sheet?gid=0). Second, 5000 is considered not a good stone either. There are 'fantastic', 'pretty good' and 'kinda bad' stones in the shapton lineup. An ideal grit progression should include as many fantastic stones as possible while keeping the grit jumps sensible.
my solution:
Shapton Glass 500 double thick
Shapton 2000
Shapton 8000
Shapton's 2000 is considered the best stone in the lineup, so building from there the 8000 (a pretty good stone) still makes sense and is a reasonable grit jump. The 10,000 might also be fine but I haven't any experience with that. Now here's the fun part, the shapton glass lineup is controversial because of the relatively thin amount of abrasive on a 'stone'. But the most-loved glass stone, the 500, is available in a double thick variant that is the exact same dimensions of the Shapton Kuromaku stones. It even comes in the stackable case just like other Shapton stones. And if you look at the micron size of the grit / scratch pattern, the shapton 500 acts more fine than a typical 500 stone. More like a King 800, but a true splash and go and a very hard wearing stone.
conclusion:
I switched from Chosera 800 -> 3000 -> shapton 8000 to this setup because I was frustrated by non-ideal grit jumps as well as the fact that my Choseras weren't true splash-and-go. They were close, but would absorb a small amount of water which lead to my stone going dry while sharpening. Glass 500 -> 2k -> 8k has been a joy to work with, and all 3 stones are very hard so flattening can be procrastinated more than before.
2/2
Just wanted to add that this is from a tools perspective. I do sharpen my family's knifes with these, but my area of knowledge is in tool sharpening and only tool sharpening. It's something I pull out several times every day. I've tried a shitload of different setups and friends' setups for tool sharpening and maintenance, and with this grit progression that I haven't seen anyone else using yet, I believe I've found my endgame that I'll be using until I die.
Doesn't cover grinding / repairs btw, just regular maintenance sharpening.
i dont know why someone sharpening edge tools even bothers with waterstones of whatever type. When i started using edge tools the German community shilled me a 220 and 1k shapton and a 8k SS naniwa. Used them one time in the shop and banished them to the kitchen ever since, what a fricking meme these are, I could write a book on that. Especially for their price. my 2 stone setup now
covers the same range but was less than that fricking naniwa pos alone, oh if only i could rewind time and start over.