Big day for Kenya as the president of Kenya visits the United States. I'll break down the military stuff that happened to them.
>Kenya will receive 24 aircraft including 16 Huey choppers and 8 MD-500s.
https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/100980-us-gifts-kenya-16-helicopters-including-8-huey-choppers-peace-keeping-mission
>Kenya orders 150 M1117 armored security vehicles
https://x.com/Kenyans/status/1793590058861433107
>US to build a 10,000-foot runway at Manda Bay Airfield in Lamu
https://x.com/Kenyans/status/1793598106103369778
>Kenya to become a Major Non-Nato Ally
https://www.npr.org/biden-kenya-state-visit
good for them, the Huey is a classy bird
>Argentina becomes major non-NATO ally
>Kenya becomes major non-NATO ally
What’s going on?
global south being subverted by colonizers from the north
hopefully russia/china/iran/hamas can win quickly and stop this
both are regional power that you can use to help contain any chinese influence in the area.
they are also both functioning democracies
Both are prostitutes selling themselves to the highest bidder. Expecting them to take part in any conflict is purely moronic.
.t Buttmad second highest bidder chink
Yeah sure. 24 clapped out helo will contain chinese influence
Kenya isn't stupid. They're playing both side to show that they are "neutral", ie open for business for chinese investment but also still maintain nominal support for the west. You don't get your economy GDP to 120 billion dollars by being dumb. The last time Tanzania trying to cut ties with the west america essentially removed economic aid and slapped tariff to Tanzanian goods
16 helicopters, moron. not gonna read your post if you fail at basic reading comprehension.
It took less than 5 second to google what MD-500 is and first grade level math to figure out the answer of 16+8.
It's almost like you want people to call you an idiot
read the op image one more time for me babe. if you're still struggling, try googling the word "including".
in case you try to reply to me again with anything but an apology
Title
>US Gifts Kenya 16 Refurbished Helicopters Including 8 Huey Choppers for Peace Keeping Mission
Body
>According to a statement issued by the White House, the 16 helicopters will include 16 Huey choppers and 8 MD-500s.
OP's summary
>Kenya will receive 24 aircraft including 16 Huey choppers and 8 MD-500s.
NTA but it looks like someone fricked up somewhere.
>16 helicopters (8 Hueys and 8 MD-500s)
Is probably the actual breakdown.
you're right, sorry to that anon for being so hostile. i can see where the misunderstanding came from.
>they are also both functioning democracies
>argentina
>functional
>implying
granted, with Milei at the helm, they're likely to be very agreeable with American foreign policy goals, so it makes sense to try to foster that.
A: the Chinese are exploiting the shit out of the global south and they largely are realizing that they aren't any better than the colonizers from 200 years ago, except now the former colonizers are pretty nice.
B: Believe it or not, parts of Africa and South America have been improving in your lifetime and aren't just infinite drug cartels and ethnic cleansing death squads named the People's Liberation Work Movement
C: Everyone with a brain is realizing that global politics and strategy is a team sport, and everyone post Ukraine is reminded that if you stand alone you fight alone. So you need to choose team authoritarian or team democracy if you want a meaningful future if your neighbors try to do some shit.
Poor countries are in massive debt to China while it pivots to febt collection, leaving these nations to use whatever strategic value they can offer the West as collateral on further loans to pay off Chinese loans
Argentina is asking to join nato
It's already a major non NATO ally
They're gonna Black person-rig JDAMS and GBU to their Flankers now like Malaysia, right?
>Argentina is asking to join nato
Argentina needs to look at a map first.
Britain is gonna veto that shit if they're serious anyway.
>Argentina needs to look at a map first.
NATO needs a name change anyways, several countries in it aren't even on the Atlantic as is.
>Britain is gonna veto that shit if they're serious anyway.
Limies don't have the will or stones to do that.
I don't get why we even have non nato allies
Just fricking add them to NATO.
This is how you either get dragged into a moronic conflict you don't care about, or cause your alliance to crumble.
NATO works because even if Hungary doesn't like Poland all that much, Poland being invaded would mean a potential adversary only ~50 miles away, and Hungary would like that even less. Defensive alliances should probably be kept regional, to minimize the chances that the countries involved refuse to send troops to defend something on the other side of the world.
Nato by nature is not regional though
It goes from North America, Europe, to Asia
Adding Japan, and Kenya would be perfectly fine
I think the area NATO protects (north of the red line) is very regional.
The exceptions are the polar regions, which are unlikely to be battlegrounds any time soon, and the US, which doesn't care about distance when it comes to projecting power.
If there's no desire by the member states to rewrite Article 6 to give Hawaii and French Guyana Article 5 protection, there's almost assuredly no desire to add new members on different hemispheres.
Kenya and especially Japan don't need to be in NATO to have a defensive alliance with the US and other countries, and including them might risk a country going NATO-skeptic and deciding to leave.
But there's no guidelines for leaving NATO
Once you're in, you're in
Again It shouldn't be that far fetched to include some out of north Atlantic allies
>The formal process is stated in article 13 of the Treaty. This says that any country that wants to leave must send the United States (as the depository state) a "notice of denunciation", which the U.S. would then pass on to the other Allies. After a one-year waiting period, the country that wants to leave would be out.
You can leave? Wow
Why wouldn't you be? Who's going to enforce it?
Honestly I had assumed that once you're in NATO you're basically there forever unless you just collapse
It's why turkey is still there
France left NATO in the 60s dude
No it didn't leave NATO
It just left the military command structure
France never formally left NATO
Seriously fricking learn to read
i guess someone forgot to tell NATO
You idiot, that means NATO left France's military structure, not that France withdrew from NATO.
Are you moronic?
>left the military structure
so it didn't leave NATO just the Chain of Command?
As far as Major Non-NATO allies of the US goes Argentina isn't new, they've been one since the 90's for joining in on the Gulf War apparently. Trump added Brazil because of reasons, Biden has added Qatar, Colombia and now Kenya.
Notably looking at the MNNA's the Suez Canal (Egypt), straits of Gibraltar (Morrocco), Panama Canal (basically our backyard and we controlled it not that long ago but Colombia is a lot closer), Tierra Del Fuego (Argentina), the entire first Island Chain (Japan/Taiwan/Phillipines), the Straits of Malacca (Singapore signed something in 2005 that's still secret to this day). Are all covered. The Persian Gulf is partially covered (Kuwait/Qatar/Bahrain and Pakistan (though there was a bill announced like a year and a half ago to revoke their status so who knows), Kenya adds the alternative of the Suez trade route to the area that's covered by MNNA's or Nato itself. Only thing that's not covered is..... the Bab al mandab strait i guess? Not really relevant without the Suez covered but you really need both to make one worth it as we've learned.
>But there's no guidelines for leaving NATO
>he doesn't know about france
>he can't read the treaty
Come on now. You can do better.
France never left NATO
They left the command structure, and then went back into it in 2018ish
>Once you're in, you're in
Well, see... we're just not going to send troops to defend Japan or some irrelevant African country. So at that point NATO will only exist on paper.
Sorry had to help my wife with mash potatoes
But yeah my belief is the tropic of cancer line rules are extremely outdated and a vestige of the cold war.
We are now facing threats from china, Iran, Yemen, north Korea and Russia
All of these are real threats that can affect all of non NATO allies
Kenya for example is in Houthi missile range and has bought air defense systems to counter these threats. Houthis have hit somalia before so it doesn't seem that far fetched
America keeps allies like a Twitter follower list or a Facebook fren list
America's only real allies (aka countries they will not hesitate to die for) are Israel, 5 Eyes, Japan, South Korea, Germany and France
Everyone else is on a totem pole below and irrelevant countries are on the expendable list but are still """allies"""
>NORTH atlantic treaty organization
not allowed. we don't want 'em
South African here, I'll give you the skinny.
1. Kenya has been on the up for a long time. Last time I was in Nairobi something I couldnt miss was all the concrete plants along the coast - perfect indicator of growth
2. Their democratic institutions survived the post-colonial era, the country never babbled in socialism or fell into the traps other former colonies did and those institutions are now maturing into quite a fantastic little democracy
3. They have always had a good relationship with the UK (and thus the US). Idk what the deal is but they were pretty much the UK's favorite African colony and the Kenyans have an affinity for their former colonial masters. Look at pic related, their army is still extremely british in nature.
4. They did a shitload of heavy lifting in Somalia
5. They are a martial people culturally which always helps.
6. They play both sides and mantain strategic ambiguity, they have deals with China as much as they have deals with the West.
7. They dont have a problem with whites (they actually quite like us)
8. East Africa in general is pretty chill. Tanzania and Malawi both have a thing for Europe.
Kenya is fantastic, and based on how things are going in RSA I will probably end up living there in the next 10 or so years.
Funny enough the British only ever committed one war crime in Kenya so I imagine they let bygones be bygones
How do you like living in SA?
Bullshit. You'll frick off to Australia with the other saffers
what is martial culture like in kenya? martial arts? willingness to protect their independence? conscription?
>RcmpMarchingNearOttawa.png
sNorway on suicide watch
>those institutions are now maturing into quite a fantastic little democracy
*casually sets the country on fire because your tribe lost the gibs election*
Glad to see them carry on the tradition of the red shirts. As usual a former British colony is the best run state.
The "real countries" are starting to emerge from the global south, and you want to plant the seeds of cooperation and potential alliance early before someone else does.
Think you’re into something
>emerge
>South Africa
Nigeria is just Russia with lions
It's become abundantly clear thanks to Armenia's situation which bloc is actually willing to do something for you when shit goes down.
>CSTO explains to Armenia multiple times that it is under no obligation to defend Artsakh and that Armenia would be the aggressor if it went to defend it in a war
>Armenia ignores this multiple times and cries when it loses
>CSTO sends peacekeepers to simply hold the peace route
>Armenia cries when CSTO doesn't defend Artsakh again
>CSTO is too weak to defend its borders
thanks for spelling it out for us
>"Armenia we're not going to defend you for a moronic war over territory that we don't view as yours"
That's not weak moron
That's like saying NATO should have invaded Argentina because of the Falklands
It's just a bureaucratic designation so they can buy more military hardware from the US.
Argentina has made a major push away from China back to the US, and Kenya has been our African BFF since forever.
I thought Argentina was always our ally
Which made the Falklands War awkward as all frick
Argentina is getting some love to contain the BRs, Kenya to contain the Southies.
It's just a move to counter BRICS influence in their continents
Turns out when the west has a competitor that applies even shittier policies, then the said 'naturals' suddenly figure out that the west was not as bad as they thought.
We're in a cold war again and the two sides are carving out as many allies as they can before shtf
If war were declared kenya and argentina will be a source of resources for the war machine of nato
We're entering the OFN timeline
God I love the m1117, especially in a policing role like Kenya would press it into. Something about a .50 mk-19 combo that just seems very effective
>MP equipment is super effective as police
You got a point
Nice new job opportunity for me.
Is this all for the Haiti operation?
i have done infrastructure consulting (UK) work in Nairobi. I was there for 2 months and it was surprisingly nice. Not as dirty as I would imagine and cleaner than you would expect. I talk it up so much that my wife and her 2 friends are going there on holiday in June. 9/10 as far as African countries go
Neat.
>my wife and her 2 friends are going there on holiday
Imagine letting your wife go to an African country without you to protect her. Bongs really deserve everything that happens to then.
Imagine being an insecure homosexual
When she gets raped, kidnapped, murdered you'll think back to this post, when you do just realize how much a homosexual you are lol. Childless middle aged Bongs are so funny.
Admit that you don’t fest for her safety but that she will love those gorgeous local wieners. Let’s not play pretend here mutt
Euro's law proves itself every day on PrepHole
Why would an american woman had to go to africa to get some alabama blacksnake?
I was right to dislike all British people
RIP your wife and her friends.
Cuck
I love how casually the bait was slipped in.
how long till they run coup d'etat, invite ziggers, kick out westerners and transfer these gibs to their new overlords for a symbolic payment of one banana?
Anon, I know it's in Africa, but Kenya is not a warlord hellscape or a failing state.
Past coups and rebellions were crushed, and Kenya has to send troops abroad to fight ISIS militants because they ran out of them at home.
Kenya literally has never been overthrown
It's the only democracy in its area
The Kenyan Crisis is a good example of a fairly stable country able to resolve a conflict mostly peacefully.
In 2007, both sides of the presidential election accused the other party of cheating, and when international observers tried to investigate, they couldn't determine who had actually won, or if either party (or both) cheated. A huge crisis erupted with massive protests all over the country, some of them violent.
In the end, both parties agreed to split their powers and form a coalition government, ending the crisis and avoiding a coup or rebellion.
It's not perfect, but it's not fair to compare it to the clown show that's going on in Niger and the coup belt.
Exactly.
Still crazy that Kenya is becoming a major non nato ally. I could have never imagined it because it really seems like we avoided giving out the status to African nations
Kenya is going to become the core of the East African Federation. It may be a Rwandan plan but Kenya has the population and resources
>East African Federation
fairytale that will never happen even if kagame lived to 200. member states are literally fighting eachother as we speak lmao
They should've never brought South Sudan into that shit, all they do is drag everybody else down.
Update
It's official
You can never have too many friends.
To do:
>work on amping up Nigeria, then add
>same with Mexico maybe
>Drop Pakistan, replace with Burma once rebels win since Pajeets and Chinks dropped the ball on allying with rebels
>Yakutia once it's free
>Kazakhstan and Mongolia need help, the latter is a NATO global partner
Kazakhstan is a lost cause
Mongolia is too risky
Best bet is to addsotuh Africa
Would love to add South Africa but not much faith they’ll come around.
>Mexico
Definitely not. They're sitting in America's lap and are its biggest trade partner. No one is gonna frick with them, so why waste the money on heavy weapons?
Because they're the US's soft underbelly. People will mess with them as a way to mess with the US
Damn they updated that map fast
I checked the site at 3:15 and it still wasn't there
It still isn't, I added it myself in CSP.
Oh
Fricking Wikipedia
I added the part about Kenya this morning
Again, they're not our friends, they just buy shit from us. Pakistan is a prime example.
> us government gives kenya sixteen hueys
> they won't even give me ONE
frick this stupid ass country
It's kinda neat to watch the world reorder itself into new cold war blocs. Or revert to mean actually. I wasn't around to see the first one.
It never really changed
Some boys moved but not many
ken yeah
thanks, Obama
Post colonial Africa (Sub-Saharan) is literally nothing more than cliques of oligarchs robbing mineral wealth and trying to protect it from other gangs. Any “government” they have is just a larp in order to accept loans and get access to the world financial institutions,
The sovereign nations doesn’t really exist outside of the West and a few other centers — the West got together to draw maps and force everyone to play along. We incentivize them to dress up Lin suites and have a “government” only so that they can get aid and loans but they don’t really have a sovereign government institution, do not participate at all in making the world better. That’s the reality of Africa (North Africa is a step up into peasant fiefdoms, still not real countries),
>Guy who gets all his info from /misc/
Dude isn’t wrong. Some are slightly less Black personish than others.
Post Roman Europe is literally nothing more than cliques of upstart warlords robbing what remains of the empire's wealth and trying to protect it from other gangs. Any “government” they have is just a larp show in order to accept financial aid and get access to trade routes. Sovereign nations don’t really exist outside of mighty China and perhaps a few other noteworthy centers — We look upon them, laugh, and gives them some semblance of order when they come begging for more junk. We incentivize them to puff up their chests and pretend they have “governance” only so that they can receive aid and trade deals, but they don’t really have true governance, nor do they help elevate the world with their pitiful sproutings. That’s the reality of post-Roman Europe (excluding perhaps Near Asia, which ties itself more meaningfully into the celestial empire),"
That's a pretty accurate description of dark age Europe
To be fair, the kingdoms of the dark ages had the excuse that communications were slow and unreliable, so you needed self-sufficiency down to a fiefdom level.
The Africans have more cellphones than they do guns.
vietnam non-nato ally when
god that would be so funny
if paying 10% more in gas was somehow the price to pay for this, I'd happily do it just to listen to the seething
this, I love it when my standard of living goes down, which is why I always vote straight democrat tickets
>seethe preview
whats the weather like in st pidorsburg right now?
I imagine it's better than whatever san fransisco bathhouse you're posting from
>Kenyan man enters chopper
>Fortunate Son blasts through his mind