Vikhr atgms seem pretty decent given the range and the fact they didnt get rekt by Ukie AA (which has been pretty decent since the start especially against KA52) when they hit the Bradleys.
It would be 10x more lethal if it had a Thermal camera to western standards not the poverty tier gameboy camera it has now.
That is the ultimate shame, amazing threads when that happened, especially vatnik cope when they tried to say the 2nd time was the first just filmed on a different launcher until the autismos debunked them in all but 60 seconds.
>would be 10x more lethal if it had a Thermal camera to western standards
Read the rest of the post before posting like a moron
Also >Constantly misses
https://nitter.net/ZOVforce/status/1668705505970204674#m
https://nitter.net/thomasinar26033/status/1668502578521358336#m
https://nitter.net/EricM_in_Vegas/status/1668077427262726147#m
The first video isnt Bradleys like the moronic tweeter says but the missile clearly hits both targets, to write it off as repeatedly misses in reddit tier style is pretty telling of your tourist nature or your just a moron that doesnt watch what both sides put out.
>beamrider that can only pick up the beam in a very narrow 20 degree cone >spin stabilized >spins around the fricking beam in a 2 meter circle
The fact that it can hit something is amazing on its own, why didint the soviets make something akin to a lofting F&F ATGM like the hellfire is beyond me.
>why didint the soviets make something akin to a lofting F&F ATGM like the hellfire is beyond me.
soviets were too poor and moronic to make a proper attack helicopter, let alone a F&F atgm
laser beam riders also use a fraction of the power then laser pointers for Hellfire. Laser pointed munition will alert any Laser Warning Reciever will beam riders have a lower probability of detection
same reason why they dont have a lot of things that are normal in western militaries, their technology has been shit since the 70s
remember at the start of the war how their cruise missiles had a CEP of like 500m and sprayed them all over an airfield without hitting a single aircraft shelter, or how the electronics of their T90s are all stolen from western commercial products cause they cant make their own?
>Alligator anti tank missiles?
They're called Vikhrs, and the missiles themselves are pretty good. The launch platform leaves much to be desired. by Western standards, for optics and sensors as you can see in .
If the Vikhr was fired from a Longbow Apache, it'd arguably be the best non-top-attack helicopter-launched ATGM out there. The lack of fire-and-forget and inability to target without essentially needing direct line-of-sight to the target is still a huge problem (the way we got the back to back Stugna kills on Ka-52s), though (one that Apaches and even Eurocopters have been better about addressing through sensors/optics, training, and weaponry suited for long-distance engagements).
The Kamov is a good helicopter, generally, it just suffers from Russian quality sensors and optics. The Vikhr is a good ATGM, it's just held back by sub-optimal launch platforms.
It's not a designator, it's more of a projector that creates a beam or a cone for the missile to steer itself inside of. It's a laser beam rider, not a semi-active laser homer.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because beam riding tech is cheap and easy to make. Millimeter wave radar seekers and high power helicopter-borne radar sytems are not.
>beamrider that can only pick up the beam in a very narrow 20 degree cone >spin stabilized >spins around the fricking beam in a 2 meter circle
The fact that it can hit something is amazing on its own, why didint the soviets make something akin to a lofting F&F ATGM like the hellfire is beyond me.
The greatest strength of the Vikhrs also happens to be it's greatest weakness: The beam-riding nature of the missile allows it to be used through smoke and other interference, but it also means that any movement of the helicopter is prone to throw the missile off course- Which is the reason some suspect Stugnas and other ATGMs have been able to pick off stationary Alligators with zero evasive action on their part.
This is an okay compromise to make if you're stuck with eighties technology, but there are considerably better ways of attaining the aformentioned benefits. Like using radars with fire-and-forget munitions. But given the pathetic state of Russian radars or the fact that Russians are unable to produce an imaging FLIR seeker in 2023 A.D., I wouldn't hold my breath for it. So how /misc/acks can compare the Ka-52 to something like the Apache-D that can kill sixteen tanks without leaving cover before flying back to base is utterly beyond me.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If the contrast is good enough on the screen, and you hit the lock button, the laser targeting reticle should lock on to a target as long as it fits within the reticle, which can be sized by the operator. This means you can do slight manuevers as long as the target is within the lasers gimbal limits. At least, that's how it worked on the Ka-50, I assume the Ka-52 isn't a downgrade.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The FLIR/laser pod does gimbal to follow targets, but it still precludes any serious maneuvering to the extent of dodging incoming missiles. Now, since the Hokem can (supposedly) detect
approaching missiles[1], you would think that the pilot would be willing to break the lock and live to fight another day with a 30 million dollar war machine- The fact that they don't means either:
>New pilots are so raw they aren't being trained on the most fundamental systems of the helicopter
>Ground crews are stealing parts, and haven't been beaten to death by angry flight crews or court-martialled for making Coloniel Skimoffthetopolov look incompetent
Worst case scenario for RuZZia
>These parts outright don't work or are sabotaged via embezzlement at the factory level, and Kamov's credibility as a manufacturer is pretty much gone as every country with Hokem-Bs needs to check for non-functional componentry
No matter the explanation, I doubt anyone with a choice in th matter will choose to pick up Ka-52s voluntarily without some MASSIVE upgrades after this war is finished.
A bunch of Apaches were damaged in one op because the mission planners had a brain fart and had them fly low over an unsecured urban area so they took a lot of potshots from small arms.
They weren't lost, they were indeed damaged. Anything light enough to fly is easy to damage by ground fire if it's in range. That includes A-10 though they're also easy to fix and designed for comy field maintenance like CLSS did at KKMC next to where I worked F-16s.
Highly doubtful. I know a former Blackhawk pilot who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. They would come back sometimes and find small arms bullet holes in the aircraft. They didn't even notice the rounds hitting them in flight. I doubt Apaches have a thinner skin than Blackhawks.
>Ka-52s wrecked an entire company of Bradleys and Leo 2s.
Russian mental illness induced fantasy, not connected with reality.
The immobilized (by mines) but intact western vehicles were safely left behind by their crews as they were sitting ducks, US has already chosen to deliver replacements.
The rest of the KA-52s will be destroyed soon, much like in the many videos we have seen of this war. There is no refuge from western technology, only death and destruction. We could even say the pilots were given their last rites, not medals. Dead men flying.
>Helicopter being sawn in half by the slinky of death and crashing down from X meters high with its pilots dying is equivalent to a tank/apc throwing a track and the personnel evacuating to safety >...of which the latter has also been towed back and repaired more often than not
Still trusting the plan I [Z]?
>safely
11 months ago
Anonymous
>open hatches
Yup.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah. Look, I don't expect a /misc/ tourist to have the slightest understanding of war, but do be a good boy and sit down when people are talking.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>some people may look at that photo a see a bunch of wrecked vehicles, but a true operator looks at that photo and see a bunch of vehicles which were safely left by their crews
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. That’s why there aren’t any dead bodies and why we now have images of the Bradley’s and their crew back behind Ukrainian lines
11 months ago
Anonymous
oh were adding headcanon to the image now?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>still posting about Bradley's >While ukraine does pic related every other day
>Helicopter being sawn in half by the slinky of death and crashing down from X meters high with its pilots dying is equivalent to a tank/apc throwing a track and the personnel evacuating to safety >...of which the latter has also been towed back and repaired more often than not
Still trusting the plan I [Z]?
But I thought these were all destroyed by Russia's pre-sighted artillery? And also all these vehicles were destroyed by mines in the gray zone before the Russians even opened fire?
>Warthunder is the one place where they get to larp as a military superpower
on real t-34 driver's hatch is a weak spot, the German field manual instructs smaller caliber AT guns to aim there, in game, the hatch is indestructible
Ka-52 has in fact been one of Russia’s more effective air assets due to being able to engage outside of AD range. No one knows what their actual hit rate is because the videos are obviously only the highlight reels. The flat open terrain helps helicopters to engage at max range.
Treelines in alot of the videos are thin enough not to cause problems as seen in videos
>would be 10x more lethal if it had a Thermal camera to western standards
Read the rest of the post before posting like a moron
Also >Constantly misses
https://nitter.net/ZOVforce/status/1668705505970204674#m
https://nitter.net/thomasinar26033/status/1668502578521358336#m
https://nitter.net/EricM_in_Vegas/status/1668077427262726147#m
The first video isnt Bradleys like the moronic tweeter says but the missile clearly hits both targets, to write it off as repeatedly misses in reddit tier style is pretty telling of your tourist nature or your just a moron that doesnt watch what both sides put out.
here, most treelines in Ukraine serve only to divide fields akin to drystone walls or fences in western europe
This thing will never be good.no matter how many threads get spammed here.
>I ignore all video evidence provided and continue to blindly shill my narrative
Idiots like you ruin threads and make discusions impossible
Vikhrs can't do top attack and their swirly flight pattern makes them somewhat inaccurate (they can be fired in pairs at least), but they are fast and can shoot outside of SHORAD or MANPAD range.
>cheap $30k a pop >decent range 10km >near mach 2 speed
really only limited by the shitty optics
I'd still take a Hellfire/Brimstone over it though
really only limited by the dhir
Looks like countermeasures. The missile veers off so fast it is probably following something it wasn't supposed to.
Real combat isnt a video game and by the time you learn why things are not working properly the enemy has changed tech and doing something else.
A lot of classified stuff is probably rendering what would otherwise perfom decent into dogshit in combat.
The us with the strongest budget and tons of contractors will come up with new ways to screw with otherwise decent things faster than you can learn about them.
Japan is getting rid of all it's Apaches and OH-1s to go all drone due to demographics. Giving those to Ukraine would be a nice way to cement relations with Europe (against China).
>Well unlike the Apache, the Ka-52 is actually being used to destroy enemy vehicles.
what is desert storm >Maybe when the USA moves past getting raped by third-world shitholes
lower your voice
>werent like ~50% of all US helicopter airframes rendered "shot down" or 'lost'
lol no
75 deployed ah-1 supercobras
120 ch-46
50 uh-1
29 ch-53 sea stallion
49 ch53e super stallions
245 Apaches
141 ah-1s cobras
20 uh-60
197 uh-1h
324 oh-58c Kiowa
97 oh-58d Kiowa
127 ch-47 chinook
I'm not even going to list the rest of rotary wing aviation
Casualties and losses
46 killed or missing
8 captured
75 aircraft ‒ 52 fixed-wing aircraft and 23 helicopters
Source for numbers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_air_campaign
>we have a picture of one (1) (ONE) Bradley which returned after taking damage >therefore those burning wreckages formerly known as Bradleys which you can see clearly pictured there, they actually just don't exist, ignore them, they don't matter, because we have one which made it back
Not sure I follow your "logic" here buddy
Nothing to worry about, just zisters hyping up another piece of russian garbage in an attempt to down the bad news during another unpaid extended shift on the shillfarm.
Offsets a bit the western equipped units' night time advantage, it's effective as a standoff ATGM delivery platform but if you try to engage with cannon or dumb rockets you're gonna have a bad time
So good that the only times Ka-52 gets mentioned it's involved in something monumentally stupid. Like getting shot down by Stugna ATGMs. Twice
Vikhr atgms seem pretty decent given the range and the fact they didnt get rekt by Ukie AA (which has been pretty decent since the start especially against KA52) when they hit the Bradleys.
It would be 10x more lethal if it had a Thermal camera to western standards not the poverty tier gameboy camera it has now.
That is the ultimate shame, amazing threads when that happened, especially vatnik cope when they tried to say the 2nd time was the first just filmed on a different launcher until the autismos debunked them in all but 60 seconds.
>Vikhr atgms seem pretty decent
>*repeatedly misses*
Admittedly it's hard to say how much of it is because of the garbage day and night optics and how much due to missile guidance and control.
>would be 10x more lethal if it had a Thermal camera to western standards
Read the rest of the post before posting like a moron
Also
>Constantly misses
https://nitter.net/ZOVforce/status/1668705505970204674#m
https://nitter.net/thomasinar26033/status/1668502578521358336#m
https://nitter.net/EricM_in_Vegas/status/1668077427262726147#m
The first video isnt Bradleys like the moronic tweeter says but the missile clearly hits both targets, to write it off as repeatedly misses in reddit tier style is pretty telling of your tourist nature or your just a moron that doesnt watch what both sides put out.
>beamrider that can only pick up the beam in a very narrow 20 degree cone
>spin stabilized
>spins around the fricking beam in a 2 meter circle
The fact that it can hit something is amazing on its own, why didint the soviets make something akin to a lofting F&F ATGM like the hellfire is beyond me.
around the fricking beam in a 2 meter circle
sounds like something children playing Garry's mod would design .. 10 years ago
>why didint the soviets make something akin to a lofting F&F ATGM like the hellfire is beyond me.
soviets were too poor and moronic to make a proper attack helicopter, let alone a F&F atgm
Because beam riding tech is cheap and easy to make. Millimeter wave radar seekers and high power helicopter-borne radar sytems are not.
laser beam riders also use a fraction of the power then laser pointers for Hellfire. Laser pointed munition will alert any Laser Warning Reciever will beam riders have a lower probability of detection
same reason why they dont have a lot of things that are normal in western militaries, their technology has been shit since the 70s
remember at the start of the war how their cruise missiles had a CEP of like 500m and sprayed them all over an airfield without hitting a single aircraft shelter, or how the electronics of their T90s are all stolen from western commercial products cause they cant make their own?
>Alligator anti tank missiles?
They're called Vikhrs, and the missiles themselves are pretty good. The launch platform leaves much to be desired. by Western standards, for optics and sensors as you can see in .
If the Vikhr was fired from a Longbow Apache, it'd arguably be the best non-top-attack helicopter-launched ATGM out there. The lack of fire-and-forget and inability to target without essentially needing direct line-of-sight to the target is still a huge problem (the way we got the back to back Stugna kills on Ka-52s), though (one that Apaches and even Eurocopters have been better about addressing through sensors/optics, training, and weaponry suited for long-distance engagements).
The Kamov is a good helicopter, generally, it just suffers from Russian quality sensors and optics. The Vikhr is a good ATGM, it's just held back by sub-optimal launch platforms.
>The Kamov is a good helicopter, generally
didn't the chinese cancel their order?
i dont think the chinese ever order them, i think only egypt did
The laser designator is in the front of the helicopter, so I think this will not affect the accuracy of the ATGM.
It's not a designator, it's more of a projector that creates a beam or a cone for the missile to steer itself inside of. It's a laser beam rider, not a semi-active laser homer.
The greatest strength of the Vikhrs also happens to be it's greatest weakness: The beam-riding nature of the missile allows it to be used through smoke and other interference, but it also means that any movement of the helicopter is prone to throw the missile off course- Which is the reason some suspect Stugnas and other ATGMs have been able to pick off stationary Alligators with zero evasive action on their part.
This is an okay compromise to make if you're stuck with eighties technology, but there are considerably better ways of attaining the aformentioned benefits. Like using radars with fire-and-forget munitions. But given the pathetic state of Russian radars or the fact that Russians are unable to produce an imaging FLIR seeker in 2023 A.D., I wouldn't hold my breath for it. So how /misc/acks can compare the Ka-52 to something like the Apache-D that can kill sixteen tanks without leaving cover before flying back to base is utterly beyond me.
If the contrast is good enough on the screen, and you hit the lock button, the laser targeting reticle should lock on to a target as long as it fits within the reticle, which can be sized by the operator. This means you can do slight manuevers as long as the target is within the lasers gimbal limits. At least, that's how it worked on the Ka-50, I assume the Ka-52 isn't a downgrade.
The FLIR/laser pod does gimbal to follow targets, but it still precludes any serious maneuvering to the extent of dodging incoming missiles. Now, since the Hokem can (supposedly) detect
approaching missiles[1], you would think that the pilot would be willing to break the lock and live to fight another day with a 30 million dollar war machine- The fact that they don't means either:
>New pilots are so raw they aren't being trained on the most fundamental systems of the helicopter
>Ground crews are stealing parts, and haven't been beaten to death by angry flight crews or court-martialled for making Coloniel Skimoffthetopolov look incompetent
Worst case scenario for RuZZia
>These parts outright don't work or are sabotaged via embezzlement at the factory level, and Kamov's credibility as a manufacturer is pretty much gone as every country with Hokem-Bs needs to check for non-functional componentry
No matter the explanation, I doubt anyone with a choice in th matter will choose to pick up Ka-52s voluntarily without some MASSIVE upgrades after this war is finished.
[1]:https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2015/11/09/ka-52-alligator-attack-helicopters/
?t=73
Poor thing is spooked from worrying over ATGMs surprising him. Give him his blanket and a treat, and no small amount of head-rubs.
it was a cold day is all
>It would be 10x more lethal if it had a Thermal camera to western standards not the poverty tier gameboy camera it has now.
The ka-52 kill videos are recorded on VHS tape. Doesnt matter how good the camera is when you are reduced to VHS quality on a worn tape.
What a ridiculous cope
a bunch of AH64's were lost due to small arms fire, attack helis have always been glass cannons
no there weren't and no apache was as much of a frickup as an average Kamov
A bunch of Apaches were damaged in one op because the mission planners had a brain fart and had them fly low over an unsecured urban area so they took a lot of potshots from small arms.
They weren't lost, they were indeed damaged. Anything light enough to fly is easy to damage by ground fire if it's in range. That includes A-10 though they're also easy to fix and designed for comy field maintenance like CLSS did at KKMC next to where I worked F-16s.
Ah yes, a AAA battery, my favorite small arm
Highly doubtful. I know a former Blackhawk pilot who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. They would come back sometimes and find small arms bullet holes in the aircraft. They didn't even notice the rounds hitting them in flight. I doubt Apaches have a thinner skin than Blackhawks.
Ka-52s wrecked an entire company of Bradleys and Leo 2s.
They've been redeemed as tank killers once they started being used in non moronic ways.
>entire company
Next time I hear this it's gonna be full army
To bad most of them have been destroyed already
Only 1/3rd have been destroyed.
>started being used in non moronic ways
huh? are there Ka-52s being operated by non-Russians?
>Ka-52s wrecked an entire company of Bradleys and Leo 2s.
Russian mental illness induced fantasy, not connected with reality.
The immobilized (by mines) but intact western vehicles were safely left behind by their crews as they were sitting ducks, US has already chosen to deliver replacements.
The rest of the KA-52s will be destroyed soon, much like in the many videos we have seen of this war. There is no refuge from western technology, only death and destruction. We could even say the pilots were given their last rites, not medals. Dead men flying.
>they weren't wrecked, they were "safely left behind by their crews"
Not him but I wouldn't call a vehicle throwing a track "wrecked"
>safely
>open hatches
Yup.
Yeah. Look, I don't expect a /misc/ tourist to have the slightest understanding of war, but do be a good boy and sit down when people are talking.
>some people may look at that photo a see a bunch of wrecked vehicles, but a true operator looks at that photo and see a bunch of vehicles which were safely left by their crews
Yes. That’s why there aren’t any dead bodies and why we now have images of the Bradley’s and their crew back behind Ukrainian lines
oh were adding headcanon to the image now?
>still posting about Bradley's
>While ukraine does pic related every other day
>Helicopter being sawn in half by the slinky of death and crashing down from X meters high with its pilots dying is equivalent to a tank/apc throwing a track and the personnel evacuating to safety
>...of which the latter has also been towed back and repaired more often than not
Still trusting the plan I [Z]?
may i see the kills of the leo2s?
>the footage you're not allowed to see on /k/
where's the Leo2 tho?
also... I hope vatniks have a good supply of those
>Russia post videos of Alligators destroying everything.
>Ukraine post Twitters about destroying Alligators.
I wonder who is coping with reality.
come back if you have footage of the supposed leo kills from an ka
you cant recognize shit on these
did ka-52 destroy hundreds of rusBlack folk in Kreminna too?
Did your CO ever arrive for his speech before 100 Ziggers got turned into mist?
the quality is so low that they might as well be hitting wooden targets in the middle of nowhere.
could be anything
Im convinced that they intentionally downgrade their footage so they can claim whatever they want. shit doesnt look like a leo
whats supposed to be?
maybe
It's ok bro they went back the next day and took high def footage for you
may I see it?
Those are certainly objects, alright.
1/3
/
3
>Actual number of Bradleys and Leopard 2s "wrecked" by Ka-52: 0
8 Bradleys
3 Leopard 2A6
And that was in like 1-2 days of the offensyiv.
Looks like America will find a way to avoid sending any Abrahams until the active war is over.
thats one, wheres the rest of the wrecked?
But I thought these were all destroyed by Russia's pre-sighted artillery? And also all these vehicles were destroyed by mines in the gray zone before the Russians even opened fire?
which of the red circled white things in the picture are the leopard and which are the bradleys?
>fricking missed all the vehicles and just immobolised them
i kneel.
they are good if you are out of range of the enemy and can hit him.
like all atgms.
Perfectly serviceable, nothing special.
They're not very accurate.
anything guided missile related made in russia is gonna be crude and susceptible to countermeasures
Pretty OP in WarThunder so you know they must be super shitty in real life
shhh, don't bully the Russians, Warthunder is the one place where they get to larp as a military superpower
>Warthunder is the one place where they get to larp as a military superpower
on real t-34 driver's hatch is a weak spot, the German field manual instructs smaller caliber AT guns to aim there, in game, the hatch is indestructible
He doesn't know Alligators btfo nato armored column in the last week of ukraine counter offensive.
Damn, an armored column of HIMARS!
you haven't seen shit yet, check this
I'm dosed up. Tell the doctor I said hello.
In other video, the Vikr took 25 sec to impact, so the Alligator was +8 km away from the target.
That's not how it works pajeet
What do you mean? Time to impact corresponds with range, and 28s is 10km for the Vikhr
Got any pixels to ID if they were even Ukrainian? I still remember the vide where they hit a T-62
>btfo
> 5 apcs 1 tank
This is Russia Stronk
That game recently nerfed the frick out of the vikirs by actually having it follow the laws of physics.
Previous generation SACLOS, no chance of buddy designation, alternative flight paths or fire and forget. Also unable to ripple fire
Ka-52 has in fact been one of Russia’s more effective air assets due to being able to engage outside of AD range. No one knows what their actual hit rate is because the videos are obviously only the highlight reels. The flat open terrain helps helicopters to engage at max range.
>The flat open terrain helps helicopters to engage at max range.
if its too flat you have nothing to hide behind if you get radar warning
Treelines are a thing.
Treelines in alot of the videos are thin enough not to cause problems as seen in videos
here, most treelines in Ukraine serve only to divide fields akin to drystone walls or fences in western europe
>I ignore all video evidence provided and continue to blindly shill my narrative
Idiots like you ruin threads and make discusions impossible
This thing will never be good.no matter how many threads get spammed here.
Just play DCS bro.
Vikhrs can't do top attack and their swirly flight pattern makes them somewhat inaccurate (they can be fired in pairs at least), but they are fast and can shoot outside of SHORAD or MANPAD range.
>cheap $30k a pop
>decent range 10km
>near mach 2 speed
really only limited by the shitty optics
I'd still take a Hellfire/Brimstone over it though
really only limited by the dhir
Here's one trying to hit a stationary tank.
Thats a long tractor column.
You're a big frick up.
Interesting to note that the vehicle he shot at had launched a TOW of it's own shortly before hand.
Pretty crazy.
he got him, didn't he?
Looks like countermeasures. The missile veers off so fast it is probably following something it wasn't supposed to.
Real combat isnt a video game and by the time you learn why things are not working properly the enemy has changed tech and doing something else.
A lot of classified stuff is probably rendering what would otherwise perfom decent into dogshit in combat.
The us with the strongest budget and tons of contractors will come up with new ways to screw with otherwise decent things faster than you can learn about them.
Armatard sucks donkey dicks and glowie screecher is a pedo.
All memes and blunders aside I absolutely love this bird she's a beauty
Why isn't Ukraine begging for Apaches or Eurocopter Tigers?
Japan is getting rid of all it's Apaches and OH-1s to go all drone due to demographics. Giving those to Ukraine would be a nice way to cement relations with Europe (against China).
@58575772
don't even deserve a (you) for the weak bait
>Well unlike the Apache, the Ka-52 is actually being used to destroy enemy vehicles.
what is desert storm
>Maybe when the USA moves past getting raped by third-world shitholes
lower your voice
>werent like ~50% of all US helicopter airframes rendered "shot down" or 'lost'
Where in the frick did you hear such wildly moronic shit lmao
>werent like ~50% of all US helicopter airframes rendered "shot down" or 'lost'
lol no
75 deployed ah-1 supercobras
120 ch-46
50 uh-1
29 ch-53 sea stallion
49 ch53e super stallions
245 Apaches
141 ah-1s cobras
20 uh-60
197 uh-1h
324 oh-58c Kiowa
97 oh-58d Kiowa
127 ch-47 chinook
I'm not even going to list the rest of rotary wing aviation
Casualties and losses
46 killed or missing
8 captured
75 aircraft ‒ 52 fixed-wing aircraft and 23 helicopters
Source for numbers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_air_campaign
>actually being used to destroy enemy vehicles
With 1/3 already gone, it's the other way around. Great live target for ukrainian and western weapon systems 🙂
what the frick is this post even?
Schizophrenia, probably /misc/ induced.
>This is what turdies raiding /k/ actually believe
Gee how come they get two rotors?
Whoops, Rajesh, you were supposed to post a different angle here to pretend it's taken at a different time
>pretend photo doesn't exist
>NoOoOOOoOOOoO YOU CAN'T JUST POST IT AGAIN
Classic
Yep
Mate you are genuinely too stupid to understand what’s going on here.
>we have a picture of one (1) (ONE) Bradley which returned after taking damage
>therefore those burning wreckages formerly known as Bradleys which you can see clearly pictured there, they actually just don't exist, ignore them, they don't matter, because we have one which made it back
Not sure I follow your "logic" here buddy
Hey man whatever you wanna believe, most of them clearly just have thrown tracks though. Some burned to nothing. It’s not really a big deal tbqh
Why are there so many low effort r*ssoid shills the past few days? Is this coordinated from /misc/?
Nothing to worry about, just zisters hyping up another piece of russian garbage in an attempt to down the bad news during another unpaid extended shift on the shillfarm.
I don't understand. You say they were destroyed but they still have turrets?
Offsets a bit the western equipped units' night time advantage, it's effective as a standoff ATGM delivery platform but if you try to engage with cannon or dumb rockets you're gonna have a bad time