K21 export to Latvia imminent

https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_march_2024_global_security_army_industry/hanwha_aerospace_from_south_korea_competes_in_latvia_with_its_k21_infantry_fighting_vehicle.html
>Latvia's Ministry of Defense is in the midst of an extensive evaluation process to select a suitable IFV to increase its armed forces' combat capabilities. The project outlines the acquisition of 100 state-of-the-art IFVs to bolster the nation's defense capabilities. Among the contenders are Hanwha Aerospace's K21, the ASCOD by General Dynamics European Land Systems, and the Tulpar from the Turkish defense manufacturer, Otokar.

>Over a rigorous three-week testing phase conducted in October 2023, the K21 underwent comprehensive assessments focusing on its mobility and firepower capabilities. According to the tests conducted by the Latvian armed forces, the K21 emerged as a frontrunner, outperforming its competitors significantly in both evaluated aspects. The vehicle's superior firepower, coupled with its competitive pricing—being 30-40% cheaper than its counterparts—has positioned it as the likely choice for Latvia.

>Armed with a robust two-man turret, the K21 boasts a 40mm cannon alongside two anti-tank guided missile launchers. The cannon's impressive rate of fire reaches 300 rounds per minute, with projectiles achieving a velocity of 1,005 meters per second. Its armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS) rounds are capable of penetrating up to 220mm of armor, thanks to their self-sharpening feature. Complementing the main armament, the vehicle is equipped with third-generation anti-tank guided missiles, comparable in performance to the Israeli Spike missile, capable of breaching armor up to 1,000mm thick. A coaxial 7.62mm machine gun serves as the secondary armament.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >K21
    But why?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reasonably priced as Koreans produce stuff at pretty large volume and Koreans probably can start deliveries pretty fast, if necessary from their own existing stockpiles.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its not really reasonably priced as its among the most expensive, you could probably get 5 warriors for the price of a single k21, but the k21 is essentially a version of the redback which completely mogged the lynx on every performance metric and selected despite costing over 20% more per unit, the reality is that there is no better option available today in the ifv space than the k21

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Redback is a larger vehicle based on thr K21 but not amphibious. The K21 is significantly cheaper.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Correct, but the k21 is the price of around 5 warriors, the redback is probably around the price of 2-3x this amount, also the redback is larger but no significantly, the k21 also happens to have the 40mm cannon as standard issue

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Shut the frick up warriortard

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct, but the k21 is the price of around 5 warriors, the redback is probably around the price of 2-3x this amount, also the redback is larger but no significantly, the k21 also happens to have the 40mm cannon as standard issue

          They paid the biggest bribe, probably.
          [...]
          Absolutely. All our procurement decisions are made by politicians who understand literally nothing about the subject matter.

          Take the meds.

          >K21
          But why?

          Probably because drones, and K21 has a 40mm Bofors main gun with airburst ammunition.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Latvians are morons

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm going to laugh my ass off when what is forthcoming in the coming days maybe week is announced...without giving it away we can safely say it has to do with the uk and a major ROK land based weapons systems...

        Its safe to say that at this point its not that the ROK mic needs anybody its entirely the free world needs the ROK mic...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They paid the biggest bribe, probably.

      Latvians are morons

      Absolutely. All our procurement decisions are made by politicians who understand literally nothing about the subject matter.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's like asking why Estonians bought roachshit instead of Finnish

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what did they buy?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They got some turk APC's instead of joining the Patria 6x6 program like Latvia did.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are they like this?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Money matters. You can literally pick up 3~4x more Turkish weapons for the same amount of budget due to the exchange rate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but now le poor latvia can make APC's, but estonia can't

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would they? They can demand manufacturing facilities in land but it will only increase the overhead cost.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Longevity. Now say, letts can make their own spares, they're making additional crap for that big swedish order, more jobs, more monies. And no depending on neutrooler roaches.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They needed to fill NATO standards for rapid deployment troops in couple years or get reprimanded. Turkshit will be start deliveries from their already ready stock while Patria would need to be built from scratch and the factory lines are already backlogged with Finnish and Swedish orders. Patria also has very small factory due to the licencing style they practice but Estonia has not industry that could build them so they need them delivered instead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      99% because they can actually ship it in this decade, unlike most other vendors

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if they are like poland, it's ROK willingness for technology transfers and incorporation of domestic industries compared to western partners. germoney will basically just sell you whole stuff not letting the eastern plebs do anything domestically. and US doesn't seem to have anything besides bradley, which now makes me question why they don't export it to anyone

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The M1 Abrams and Bradley just aren't that good and are used by the US just because they are domestic. They both loose every single adoption competition to the like of Leo 2, CV90 etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if they are like poland
        They're not
        >it's ROK willingness for technology transfers and incorporation of domestic industries compared to western partners
        Irrelevant for Latvia because they don't have the economy or industry to manufacture heavy military gear like IFV's at a reasonable price
        >germoney will basically just sell you whole stuff not letting the eastern plebs do anything domestically
        Wrong, german companies allow license production of german weapons and integration of domestic systems to their weapons (see foreign Leo2 variants).
        Of course a moron like you wouldn't know because the only thing you can do is parrot shitty nationalist memes and present them as "facts"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/07/31/norway-delivered-gepard-spaag-35mm-shells-are-useless-in-ukraine/
          https://www.eurasiantimes.com/image-collapse-how-one-of-worlds-best-self-propelled-artillery/
          https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2024/03/31/ukraines-taurus-missile-dream-fades-berlin-halts-production/
          https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/04/world/europe/germany-ukraine-russia.html

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Incredible, you posted 4 links and they're all irrelevant garbage

            The gepard's ammo issue is due to the Swiss being morons and not wanting their ammo to be used in wars so Germany had to find alternate suppliers
            >Eurasian times
            lol, lmao even
            The Taurus shit is dumb but that's completely irrelevant here

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The gepard's ammo issue is due to the Swiss being morons and not wanting their ammo to be used in wars so Germany had to find alternate suppliers
              This isn't about Swiss ammunition though, the culprit is that the krauts got greedy that they didn't want their weapon systems to accept ammo manufactured by 3rd parties. They actually solved it by making a dent on the edge of the shell thus hacking the mission computer to think it as training munition.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Both the gun and ammo were designed and manufactured by Oerlikon which is a Swiss company

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oerlikon is a subsidiary of Rheinmetall now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which is irrelevant because the subsidiary is located in Switzerland and is under Swiss jurisdiction.
                They eventually relocated production to Germany once they realized Switzerland wouldn't budge.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Which is irrelevant because the subsidiary is located in Switzerland and is under Swiss jurisdiction.
                Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that all the intellectual properties belong to its parent company. Also, the same incident happened with Lance turrets sold to Australia a few years prior.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They purchased the IP 2 decades after the gepard's introduction and by then the gepard was already considered obsolete. It only gained a second wind due to the unexpected mass adoption of cheap drones and loitering munitions in a large scale war.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They purchased the IP 2 decades after the gepard's introduction and by then the gepard was already considered obsolete.
                It went through large scale overhauls, including modernization of the electronics, in the early 2000s.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also, it's not a matter of armament, but more to do with the FCS.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As yes, the "posting a bunch of links from google without even reading them to see if they actually say anything about the subject at hand" method of arguing. Because you've got nothing, but are too stupid to shut up.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous Magnate

            >bulgarianmilitary
            >eurasiantimes

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't overdose on kimchi, if we were this close to getting 100 IFV's it would be one of the largest military contracts for the country and people wouldn't be able to shut up about it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=213868
      >The K21 Infantry Fighting Vehicle, produced by Hanwha Aerospace, is highly likely to be exported to Latvia this year.

      >Hanwha Aerospace is currently participating in the Latvian Army’s armored vehicle replacement project with its K-21 Infantry Fighting Vehicle. The project involves about 100 units and is valued at 4 trillion won.

      >The candidates for this project include Hanwha Aerospace’s K-21, the ASCOD developed jointly by Austria and Spain, and Turkey’s Tulpar.

      >The K-21 armored vehicle is known for its operational experience and firepower. Notably, it demonstrated its firing capabilities during recent joint military exercises with the United States, moving in real maneuvers. Since its mass production started in 2009, over 460 units have been operated by the Army. The K21 boasts a high hit rate in combined training due to its automated fire control system.

      >It is equipped with a 40 mm cannon that, when loaded with Armor-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabots (APFSDS), can penetrate steel plates 100 to 130 mm thick from distances over 1 km. Furthermore, it has a 750 horsepower engine, allowing it to move at up to 70 kph on flat terrain and 40 kph on rough terrain. It also features amphibious capabilities, using side pontoons and a frontal wave deflector to travel at 6 kph in water.

      >Hanwha Aerospace underwent mobility and firepower evaluations locally for three weeks from October last year and is reported to have received the highest score. Competing products that also utilize a 30 mm main gun have been judged inferior in firepower and are 30-40% cheaper, making the K-21 the anticipated choice.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >competition is ASCOD and Tuplar
        Yeah, I'm actually thinking K21 could win

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why not a cv90? i thought we were friends latvia?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing will happen, Koreans and the local IFV autist are jerking themselves over a contract that would have been a hot topic in the media for months.
      Now watch as weeks pass and we end up sticking a 30mm turret on a Patria 6x6.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cost. CV9040 was out of production long ago, and K21 were produced untily recently, so it might actually be slightly more technologically up to date and faster to resume the production.

      Latvia don't forget the expensive shipping...

      Literally, it is the cheapest, if not the second amongst the candidates(Tulpar has got some edges due to dwindling lira). Also, for the amount they're demanding, it might actually seek for local production.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what? cv90 is in production RIGHT now. they are literally building factories for it as we speak.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those are CV9030 for the Czechs. 40mm version is only used by Sweden.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i said cv90. they are being made in övik as we speak.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >i said cv90. they are being made in övik as we speak.
              Yeah, but those versions are lacking the most important element that K21 has, 40mm gun. They literally want a flak gun, Anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also, judging from the fact that Lynx dropped out of the competition in the early stage, pricing issues could be the main reason why BAE didn't even bother to participate.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        CV90 can be outfitted with whatever gun you want, including 40mm. But sure getting a new order instead of buying existing stockpiles would probably be a little too expensive for Latvia. Maybe in 5-10 years when the factory in Ukraine is set up but that's way too late. The baltics need weapons now before the chance of a renewed Russian chimpout occurs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think all of the vehicles will be newly built with slightly modified steel based chassis. Basically a redback with missing roadwheels.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No? The CV90 is in production right now and they're also building a new factory for it in Brazil.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do these Black folk even read? It's CV9040, which is equipped with a 40mm gun.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can put any fricking gun into the new CV90, even bigger than 40mm you flaming dipshit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You can put any fricking gun into the new CV90, even bigger than 40mm you flaming dipshit.
              No, unless you've got a plan to revive the 40mm line. Even the brochure you posted has only 30/35/120 as options, 40mm is long gone.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i dont understand why you are focused on 40mm? they can get 50mm if they want.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they can get 50mm
                You can get whatever prototypes the companies want to make you buy, but it won't be as cheap as the ones already in service and widespread enough to find stockpiles of ammo just about anywhere. The program itself is focused on getting an off the shelf solution within the budget as soon as possible, which explains why both Lynx and CV90 quickly dropped out of it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The K21 literally uses a copy of Bofors 40mm though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The K21 literally uses a copy of Bofors 40mm though
                So? The rounds are still compatible.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shut up you lying asiatic

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Latvia don't forget the expensive shipping...

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    without shells useless

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drones go boo-ACK

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully it's better than their shitbox cars.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember seeing one we had for "testing" and it was made for manlets. One of the reasons we got CV90. Pretty sure CV90 has huge backorder so wait 5 years or get asiatic IFV now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      K21 is huge compared to Bradley. Also, the new chassis will have a crew compartment similar to Redback.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >M2 Bradley vs K21
        >length 6,5m vs 6,9m
        >width 3,6m vs 3,4m
        >height 3m vs 2,6m
        wtf kinda perspective magic is going on in that picture?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > nipshill weeb troony like clockwork

      https://i.imgur.com/jvbZirT.jpg

      K21 is huge compared to Bradley. Also, the new chassis will have a crew compartment similar to Redback.

      K21 is a big ifv larger as big as some mbts to include the t72, if you can't fit inside a K21 you got no business being in the military go back to fatty camp

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s crazy to me — maybe not that crazy considering who buys them — that anyone wants to pay money to alpha-test Korean engineering. I promise this thing has a huge number of systems which don’t work or work well and/or are unreliable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >alpha-test
      K21 is hardly in an alpha version at this point, it's a fully mature platform with over 466 produced.

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