Is there an actual difference between an approach shoe and a trail runner with rock protection or a low cut hiking shoe, or is the nomenclature just a marketing gimmick? Honest question.
Yes. Approach shoes are better for scrambling and mountaineering.
no
Trail runners aren't as good for anything mountaineering. I've had several pairs of Merrells and as soon as I got my approach shoes I never went back. The Merrells are great every day shoes.
there is always a slight movement inside any boot, you'd have to have them as tight as climbing shoes to have no slip at all which means you cant walk very far as the pressure makes your feet sore
then your feet get poked and cut by stones and sticks which is worse than blisters
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay but that trail depicted in OPs image doesn't seem to have either of those obstacles
2 years ago
op
theres gravel under the mud and broken roots in other parts of the trail, i wore gumboots with 2 double thick socks and had comfy dry feet. had i worn sneakers my socks would have been wet and covered in mud
2 years ago
Anonymous
Based wellington wearer but also I cannot imagine doing any sort of real distance in them. To each their own though, whatever works.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Right on, I still don't really see the need for the extra weight on the feet and squishy mud feels nice on muh feet but if it works for you frick what anyone else says.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In other words you weren’t hiking. That should have been posted to begin with, but once again we see that OP is a monstrous homosexual.
Hike more and it’s not an issue. Or just walk around town instead of being a lazy frick and driving everywhere so you can condition your feet. You’re probably one of those homosexuals who takes his shoes off to cross streams because the bottoms of his feet are made out of vegana skin.
People walking in New Zealand where I live have to cross through dozens of streams, rivers and muddy patches on long hikes. You know what people wear? Trail runners, they dry out faster, drain easily, weigh less and your feet are getting wet regardless, waterproof boots will only retain water and frick you up even more.
>wear rain boots with pants on outside
yeah tell me how water gets through. i'm listening
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well you see anon when the water goes over the top of your shoe level it goes up your pants and into your boot. Have you ever gone outside before? Also
>Wearing heavy boots and non breathable pants on a long, hard hike
You're going to be sweating like a fricking dog so hard it doesn't matter whether you get wet via a river or your own sweat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>water goes over the top of your shoe level it goes up your pants and into your boot.
i mean are you walking in a fricking river? kek- get waders. there is no water getting in there.
and if its freezing cold rain. you will not sweat.
put waders w/ boots on- rain jacket that goes to knees over them. 0 rain, 0 problems. take your combat boots elsewhere, gay
2 years ago
Anonymous
>are you walking in a river?
Yes. Oftentimes while hiking there are streams that must be crossed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i always hike in my swiss army boots. they are god-tier, really comfy, waterproof from above if you tie them tight so you can cross rivers in them even in winter. >pic related
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, often you have to walk along or cross rivers up to your thighs, no one brings 10lb of fricking waders hiking, yes even in freezing rain you will sweat due to heavy exertion, I'm shilling trail runners not combat boots if you are capable of reading.
Go outside holy FRICK.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>over the top of the boots >rain through the pants >from your own sweat
Thanks for letting us know you’ve never been hiking
2 years ago
Anonymous
>top of the boots
with pants over them? >rain through the pants
through RAIN waterPROOF pants? >from your own sweat
ok thats it
thanks for proving you've never worn raingear or touched grass
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, a stream will quickly permeate your rain pants. >bring waders to cross a stream
Why do people insist on outing themselves as having zero hiking experience?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>top of the boots
with pants over them? >rain through the pants
through RAIN waterPROOF pants? >from your own sweat
ok thats it
thanks for proving you've never worn raingear or touched grass
Lol you moron, even if you have waterproof pants over waterproof boots, there is no waterproof seal in between the two
2 years ago
Anonymous
>doesn't know what waders are
ahem,
moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can’t tell if you’re just pretending to be moronic, or if you actually are, but I’m leaning towards the later.
Let me help you out Champ; you were asking how water would get in your waterproof boots if you wore waterproof pants over the top of them.
Waders are not what you were talking about, which is why I didn’t mention them.
Maybe you aren’t moronic, maybe you’re just an inexperienced kid.
Be honest, are you over 13?
Sneakers?
Like some Newbalance shoes boomers wear?
Those are for things like mowing the lawn or going to the grocery store.
Who is saying to wear those hiking?
No thanks, I’ll wear my hiking shoes when I go hiking.
>Who is saying to wear those hiking?
That's exactly what I wear when hiking (Asics runners), and they work fine in all but the wettest places. Been through many places like OP's pic as I live in a temperate rainforest. You learn to adapt. Look for footprints where people have already stepped and compressed the mud. Use sticks or bark as stepping stones. Work along the edge of the trail where the mud is shallowest, etc. You get the hang of it. It's not as convenient as just splashing through in gumboots, but personally I find gumboots hard on the knees so I prefer to stick with runners. Yeah, sometimes I miss a step and get a muddy foot, but who cares, it's a hike not a hospital visit. You're gonna get a little dirty. Just accept it and adapt.
best thing to happen to your feet since the invention of nail clippers
sometimes it feels like rubber boots and winter rubber boots are only used in finland
then again the only good ones are produced here and if you want the best originals you have to be lucky enough to have inherited them or sneaky enough to steal from army
Way back when the British were exploring Canada they kept dying and losing limbs from frostbite. The Eskimos had proven gear and techniques for living in those harsh conditions, but the British have this moronic tendency to hold on to traditional techniques even in the face of abject failure. This dumbfrick attitude continues today within the realm of recreational backpacking.
Yes, chugs lived an idyllic existence before white man appeared. The British were such morons that they all died an never conquered Canada. Did you hear this shit from a high school teacher?
I started day hiking with brooks running shoes, then switched to trail runners to test out the shoes I’d be using for backpacking. If the shoe fell apart on a 10-12 hour day and close to my car, at least it didnt happen out in the wilderness. I’ve started to come back to normal running shoes for dayhikes and trail running because they’re just more plush than the trail runners I use (I like ground feel more when I’m backpacking because it helps me steady myself with a pack weight).
if its hot out than wet sneakers isnt bad, cold and wet you want water proof boots
definitely not true when it's a remotely long hike
>waterproof La'Sportiva approach shoes
the frick is a approach shoe
For approaching a mountain climb. No one wants to wear mountaineering boots for many miles of hiking to the base of glacier.
Is there an actual difference between an approach shoe and a trail runner with rock protection or a low cut hiking shoe, or is the nomenclature just a marketing gimmick? Honest question.
no
Yes. Approach shoes are better for scrambling and mountaineering.
Trail runners aren't as good for anything mountaineering. I've had several pairs of Merrells and as soon as I got my approach shoes I never went back. The Merrells are great every day shoes.
Why wear shoes at all in those conditions? Genuine question.
so they dont get wet, therefore soft then blister
But if your feet aren't rubbing around inside a boot/ shoe what causes these blisters? I can see feet getting pruney but I can't imagine blisters.
there is always a slight movement inside any boot, you'd have to have them as tight as climbing shoes to have no slip at all which means you cant walk very far as the pressure makes your feet sore
Friend you aren't hearing me. I'm asking if you aren't wearing shoes how do you get the blisters? As in barefoot.
then your feet get poked and cut by stones and sticks which is worse than blisters
Okay but that trail depicted in OPs image doesn't seem to have either of those obstacles
theres gravel under the mud and broken roots in other parts of the trail, i wore gumboots with 2 double thick socks and had comfy dry feet. had i worn sneakers my socks would have been wet and covered in mud
Based wellington wearer but also I cannot imagine doing any sort of real distance in them. To each their own though, whatever works.
Right on, I still don't really see the need for the extra weight on the feet and squishy mud feels nice on muh feet but if it works for you frick what anyone else says.
In other words you weren’t hiking. That should have been posted to begin with, but once again we see that OP is a monstrous homosexual.
Hike more and it’s not an issue. Or just walk around town instead of being a lazy frick and driving everywhere so you can condition your feet. You’re probably one of those homosexuals who takes his shoes off to cross streams because the bottoms of his feet are made out of vegana skin.
Wet feet are dangerous if you're out for long periods of time, you double Black person. Ever heard of trench foot?
People walking in New Zealand where I live have to cross through dozens of streams, rivers and muddy patches on long hikes. You know what people wear? Trail runners, they dry out faster, drain easily, weigh less and your feet are getting wet regardless, waterproof boots will only retain water and frick you up even more.
>wear rain boots with pants on outside
yeah tell me how water gets through. i'm listening
Well you see anon when the water goes over the top of your shoe level it goes up your pants and into your boot. Have you ever gone outside before? Also
>Wearing heavy boots and non breathable pants on a long, hard hike
You're going to be sweating like a fricking dog so hard it doesn't matter whether you get wet via a river or your own sweat.
>water goes over the top of your shoe level it goes up your pants and into your boot.
i mean are you walking in a fricking river? kek- get waders. there is no water getting in there.
and if its freezing cold rain. you will not sweat.
put waders w/ boots on- rain jacket that goes to knees over them. 0 rain, 0 problems. take your combat boots elsewhere, gay
>are you walking in a river?
Yes. Oftentimes while hiking there are streams that must be crossed.
i always hike in my swiss army boots. they are god-tier, really comfy, waterproof from above if you tie them tight so you can cross rivers in them even in winter.
>pic related
Yes, often you have to walk along or cross rivers up to your thighs, no one brings 10lb of fricking waders hiking, yes even in freezing rain you will sweat due to heavy exertion, I'm shilling trail runners not combat boots if you are capable of reading.
Go outside holy FRICK.
>over the top of the boots
>rain through the pants
>from your own sweat
Thanks for letting us know you’ve never been hiking
>top of the boots
with pants over them?
>rain through the pants
through RAIN waterPROOF pants?
>from your own sweat
ok thats it
thanks for proving you've never worn raingear or touched grass
Yes, a stream will quickly permeate your rain pants.
>bring waders to cross a stream
Why do people insist on outing themselves as having zero hiking experience?
Lol you moron, even if you have waterproof pants over waterproof boots, there is no waterproof seal in between the two
>doesn't know what waders are
ahem,
moron
I can’t tell if you’re just pretending to be moronic, or if you actually are, but I’m leaning towards the later.
Let me help you out Champ; you were asking how water would get in your waterproof boots if you wore waterproof pants over the top of them.
Waders are not what you were talking about, which is why I didn’t mention them.
Maybe you aren’t moronic, maybe you’re just an inexperienced kid.
Be honest, are you over 13?
>thinks he's gunna get trench foot by hiking through mud
clean your feet after the hike you dirty moron
Wrong.
https://thetrek.co/appalachian-trail/top-footwear-appalachian-trail-2021-thru-hiker-survey/
sandal chad reporting in
>no barefoot
Sad
sepsis
Sneakers?
Like some Newbalance shoes boomers wear?
Those are for things like mowing the lawn or going to the grocery store.
Who is saying to wear those hiking?
No thanks, I’ll wear my hiking shoes when I go hiking.
>Who is saying to wear those hiking?
That's exactly what I wear when hiking (Asics runners), and they work fine in all but the wettest places. Been through many places like OP's pic as I live in a temperate rainforest. You learn to adapt. Look for footprints where people have already stepped and compressed the mud. Use sticks or bark as stepping stones. Work along the edge of the trail where the mud is shallowest, etc. You get the hang of it. It's not as convenient as just splashing through in gumboots, but personally I find gumboots hard on the knees so I prefer to stick with runners. Yeah, sometimes I miss a step and get a muddy foot, but who cares, it's a hike not a hospital visit. You're gonna get a little dirty. Just accept it and adapt.
looks like a place i used to live in SE QLD
i'd wear sandals
I just hike in my jeans, chuck taylors, and my lucky graphic tee anything else is just larping
>saves ur feet from dung, mud and water
no need to thank em
best thing to happen to your feet since the invention of nail clippers
sometimes it feels like rubber boots and winter rubber boots are only used in finland
then again the only good ones are produced here and if you want the best originals you have to be lucky enough to have inherited them or sneaky enough to steal from army
Way back when the British were exploring Canada they kept dying and losing limbs from frostbite. The Eskimos had proven gear and techniques for living in those harsh conditions, but the British have this moronic tendency to hold on to traditional techniques even in the face of abject failure. This dumbfrick attitude continues today within the realm of recreational backpacking.
Yes, chugs lived an idyllic existence before white man appeared. The British were such morons that they all died an never conquered Canada. Did you hear this shit from a high school teacher?
They didn’t do it in winter.
Sneaker gays btfo
I started day hiking with brooks running shoes, then switched to trail runners to test out the shoes I’d be using for backpacking. If the shoe fell apart on a 10-12 hour day and close to my car, at least it didnt happen out in the wilderness. I’ve started to come back to normal running shoes for dayhikes and trail running because they’re just more plush than the trail runners I use (I like ground feel more when I’m backpacking because it helps me steady myself with a pack weight).
*allows you to pass*
*gets you mauled by a bear*
cause they'll smell the wax before they smell your flesh.
larp moar
just a joke fren
söry budy