Big mistake, every politician who does this inevitably loses. People want safety blankets that reaffirm their beliefs like Obama or Trump, not difficult choices with downsides and personal responsibility.
This is unironically true. If you depend on morons to give the green light, you can't speak eye to eye to them. Explaining real odds, possible bad outcomes, and current dragging issues is always almost going to sound like "yeah we're gonna lose better save face" in their empty brains.
Extreme charisma and military competency. The Iraq military seized to be effective a few days after this video. That also helped the reputation of the conference.
Most great generals these days are effective administrators and decisive leaders rather than strategic or tactical geniuses. Nonetheless, he was at the helm of arguably the most lopsided and decisive military operation this side of WWII. He would have gotten a lot of blame if things went breasts up, so he deserves the credit too.
I went to see him speak in high school because I thought there would be war stories. All he did was talk about his prostate cancer charity for 45 minutes.
The American poster girl for the invasion. His job was to take attention away from the fact that there was no post-invasion plans or actual enemy weapons of mass destruction, and he did well. Mesmerized every 'embedded' journalist so well that he made several male Foxnews reporters pregnant just by rumbling at them. A true hero.
>to be fair, wikipedia can't be relied upon too squarely, they've got quality problems
Not him what in the world are you talking about? We're talking about wikipedia here.
Fricking have a nice day zoomer trash, if someone else from your diseased generation dosen't get MK Ultra'd and guns you down in your leftist indoctrination camp or "school" as they're called.
>no post-invasion plans or actual enemy weapons of mass destruction
Jesus christ you massive moron, It's Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf from the first Gulf War. He wasn't even in the military when we invaded Iraq.
was a moron. during the cold war the middle eastern posting was a place to send morons to serve out their days.
norman wanted to just attack iraqis head on. US war plan was actually thought up by dick cheney.
norman fricked it up by autistically sticking to muh time table.
yes but not in the way people think. Generals in the US military do not develop grand battle plans a la Napoleon - that's instead done by legions of staff officers. The big things that GOs do is set intent, which in his case was communicating the President's political aim in clear military terms: he personally briefed all his division commanders and it was made clear what the overall operational goal of Desert Storm was: the destruction of the Republican Guard.
He did his job. But there wasn't anything extraordinary in kicking Saddam with a army that was far more advanced than the Iraqis.
That's one complain that people are voicing more and more. The US has extremely good subaltern officers but the generals are usually just uniformed politicians.
>The Coalition just up and attacked Iraq for no particular reason >Including the Iraqis in Kuwait >Why were Iraqis in Kuwait?
Aside from the fact that this thread has nothing to do with Ukraine, you're also a moron. The only difference between Saddam and Putin is Putin is "white" and has nukes.
i hate disingenuous burgermutts like you that smugly parrot the propaganda line
everyone at the time and since knows that gulf war had absolutely nothing to do with the welfare of the kuwaitis themselves and everything to do with the oil fields there
I'd just put it up to America's GOD teir logistics and communications set up, GPS did most of the work and Satcoms made coordinating easy. The Marine "feint" actually forced Norman to advance his time table by 8 hours, due to them just rolling over Iraqi trenches and causing liberals much butthurt.
If you read his book he attributes most of the successes to his staff, his job was basically tard wrangling the White House/Dick Cheney and making sure everyone got the correct equipment on time.
he has nothing on russian tacticians
I respect that he was in some real heavy shit in Vietnam, and barely survived. Think that improves a general officer IMO
He did that famous briefing right?
what made it famous?
The fact that he didn't treat the general audience like morons. Same as Ross Perot.
Big mistake, every politician who does this inevitably loses. People want safety blankets that reaffirm their beliefs like Obama or Trump, not difficult choices with downsides and personal responsibility.
This is unironically true. If you depend on morons to give the green light, you can't speak eye to eye to them. Explaining real odds, possible bad outcomes, and current dragging issues is always almost going to sound like "yeah we're gonna lose better save face" in their empty brains.
Watch for yourself
Extreme charisma and military competency. The Iraq military seized to be effective a few days after this video. That also helped the reputation of the conference.
>seized
Desert Storm kino. Just fantastic
Most great generals these days are effective administrators and decisive leaders rather than strategic or tactical geniuses. Nonetheless, he was at the helm of arguably the most lopsided and decisive military operation this side of WWII. He would have gotten a lot of blame if things went breasts up, so he deserves the credit too.
I went to see him speak in high school because I thought there would be war stories. All he did was talk about his prostate cancer charity for 45 minutes.
Media loved him. Do you really need to know more?
If he'd failed he'd have been called a moron
Anyway, one way or another he did his job, so he should get the credit for that.
literally who
The American poster girl for the invasion. His job was to take attention away from the fact that there was no post-invasion plans or actual enemy weapons of mass destruction, and he did well. Mesmerized every 'embedded' journalist so well that he made several male Foxnews reporters pregnant just by rumbling at them. A true hero.
imagine being this much of a moron
bumping just so others can see this
Jesus fricking Christ you stupid zoomer. This was the first gulf war, not the second
How does someone make this kind of mistake? I've seen people confuse the two wars before, but no one who thought that Norman was in charge of 2003.
he's a Russian shill, he gets 1 rouble every time he makes a bad post
>russian tacticians
>a Russian shill
can you moronic Black folk think about something else for a while?
lmao gottem
Literal moron(s) shitting up this board
i can't remember which world war was about fighting germany and which one about fighting the nazis.
Holy shit you're actually a real moron. Wikipedia and google are there precisely to help morons like you from outing yourself so utterly.
to be fair, wikipedia can't be relied upon too squarely, they've got quality problems
>to be fair, wikipedia can't be relied upon too squarely, they've got quality problems
Not him what in the world are you talking about? We're talking about wikipedia here.
never ever think about posting again. never, ever, EVER, even think of making a post on this board, ever
Fricking have a nice day zoomer trash, if someone else from your diseased generation dosen't get MK Ultra'd and guns you down in your leftist indoctrination camp or "school" as they're called.
You stupid b***h, get Normans name out of your mouth boy.
We really should have killed Sadam during the first blitz of the gulf. Higher ups wanted to badly, Lucky Bastard.
>no post-invasion plans or actual enemy weapons of mass destruction
Jesus christ you massive moron, It's Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf from the first Gulf War. He wasn't even in the military when we invaded Iraq.
zoom zoom
was a moron. during the cold war the middle eastern posting was a place to send morons to serve out their days.
norman wanted to just attack iraqis head on. US war plan was actually thought up by dick cheney.
norman fricked it up by autistically sticking to muh time table.
Citation?
yes but not in the way people think. Generals in the US military do not develop grand battle plans a la Napoleon - that's instead done by legions of staff officers. The big things that GOs do is set intent, which in his case was communicating the President's political aim in clear military terms: he personally briefed all his division commanders and it was made clear what the overall operational goal of Desert Storm was: the destruction of the Republican Guard.
Blitzkrieg is most effective when the other side doesn't want to fight
They were *made* to not want to fight by Coalition airpower well before the ground invasion.
He did his job. But there wasn't anything extraordinary in kicking Saddam with a army that was far more advanced than the Iraqis.
That's one complain that people are voicing more and more. The US has extremely good subaltern officers but the generals are usually just uniformed politicians.
Colonel and above are political in nature, their promotions depend upon it if for no other reason than Congress officially appoints them
LTC is when it starts really. Most officers retire at major if they go the full 20 for a reason
war criminal, we were the aggressors , remember that is our moral stand in Ukraine so we have to be morally consistent
>The Coalition just up and attacked Iraq for no particular reason
>Including the Iraqis in Kuwait
>Why were Iraqis in Kuwait?
Aside from the fact that this thread has nothing to do with Ukraine, you're also a moron. The only difference between Saddam and Putin is Putin is "white" and has nukes.
i hate disingenuous burgermutts like you that smugly parrot the propaganda line
everyone at the time and since knows that gulf war had absolutely nothing to do with the welfare of the kuwaitis themselves and everything to do with the oil fields there
why exactly should the world allow kuwait to be invaded by saddam hussein exactly, my friend?
You know why
Second moron ITT not recognizing this is Gulf 1, not Gulf 2.
I think people below the age of 26 come from a generation that somehow lost a basic component of human reasoning and comprehension
homosexual vatnik.
I'd just put it up to America's GOD teir logistics and communications set up, GPS did most of the work and Satcoms made coordinating easy. The Marine "feint" actually forced Norman to advance his time table by 8 hours, due to them just rolling over Iraqi trenches and causing liberals much butthurt.
>Was he military genius?
he was fat, dumb and obeyed, whatever the order.
Relevant.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLErys4h2oiuyKCuzZhpHhCeRwSoQVEazb
My biggest gripe with this guys content in the scaling of.the aircraft and how he animates explosions and aa fire
Other than that pure kino
No colonels do the real work. Generals just make sure logistics are on point
If you read his book he attributes most of the successes to his staff, his job was basically tard wrangling the White House/Dick Cheney and making sure everyone got the correct equipment on time.
So cheney provided the plans for russia's invasion of ukraine?