Anybody use these? They've got vents at the base of the heel to drain excess water as you walk. About $75 to buy a repro pai
Jungle boot
Anybody use these? They've got vents at the base of the heel to drain excess water as you walk. About $75 to buy a repro pai
they suck lmao. if you insist on wanting jungle boots buy a modern improved version from any good brand. or any of the variety of current issue infantry boots of the US mil.
have you ever even used the boots you're talking about?
yes, because i too insisted on trying jungle boots when i was a 14 year old larper. many of us have gone through this cycle of wanting to try them and buying rothco/other trash.
great design but most of the repros suck dick. buy US made altama, US made wellco, sm wholesale, mcrae, or originals from the 80s. do not under any circumstances buy whatpriceglory, rothco, mil-tec, fox outdoor, commando, or altama if its made in the filippines. i would also marginally recommend against old surplus on the basis that the steel anti penetration plates hurt your feet over long distances - not because they make the soles too rigid, but because they bend in a way that is slightly contrarywise to the joints in your toes. midwits like hate them because they are military and are therefore LE BAD because they are made by the "lowest bidder" (the lowest bidder that still meets the bajillion standards required to even compete in the tender), but in truth they have a lot in common with modern footwear. they are relatively lightweight, don't inhibit ankle movement, are multi-purpose in design, and are generally comfortable to wear. also if youre going to actually walk through rivers with them remember to treat the leather with lots of oil and beeswax
It's either this or mark iv combat boots. It often rains where I live so the drainage aspect seems somewhat practical
Been wearing them daily for about 8 ish months now and I love them at the price point. Got the Bundeswehr made ones on kommandostore and agree with against repros. Military model does rape your feet when doing long distance but wolverine insoles and wool socks make it tolerable ime. I work in a machine shop and walk on concrete all day and hike 5-8 miles weekly in these. Used to wear wolverine soft sole boots for 13hrs a day and got athlete's foot like a mother fricker but have yet to have it happen with these. Vent holes work wonders.
Pic related took 30 minutes ago
do the ones you're using have the steel anti-spike insert?
Ngl bro your experience doesn't make me want to try them
>but will take the advice of a chink paid advertiser
>Has never tried them but still comments on them anyways
yes, we get it, you're moronic.
I'm just saying, homie
*Throws you a sideways peace sign*
>Got the Bundeswehr made ones on kommandostore
I wear these too and they're so good and cheap I immediately bought a second pair.
aren't those guys kind of shady or something
I've spent a few thousand dollars with them and they have never given me any trouble. their customer service is pretty good.
i have this cheapskate friend who tends to buy second hand stuff and things from army surplus stores
one time his boot soles came completely off and we had to ducttape them so he could walk and every time he took a step it made this really annoying flopping sound
he also thought that those american army jungle boots would be great for traversing the Finnish forestry, little he knew that instead like they promised the boots would not dry at all while walking and they were apparetly even harder to dry out because of all the moist canvas
basically his feet were completely destroyed and for a second time our whole trip was ruined because this dude bought something from an army surplus store
we grown men called his mom and asked her to come pick us up like children
Probably too cold. Jungle boots are made for Hot+Wet.
everybody clapped?
>because they are military and are therefore LE BAD because they are made by the "lowest bidder" (the lowest bidder that still meets the bajillion standards required to even compete in the tender)
I used to work at a communications equipment manufacturer for the military, it's nuts how strict the standards are, like microphone booms scrapped in the last stage because the powder coat was a little thin or an entire shipment of headset cups thrown out because the black of the plastic wasn't black enough.
Most military stuff in terms of outdoor gear isn't very good. It's not necessarily low quality but it's not designed with comfort in mind.
Which only means they're going to cut corners anywhere they possibly can
they're amazing once you break them in--they take awhile to break in
>Shilling chinkshit
KYS
>I did it as a kid, failed hard because I'm moronic, and now I think I know what I'm talking about
great, so you're 17 now and still moronic.
For what? As an PrepHole guy most non-modern boots suck ass. They're heavy, have poor ventilation, retain water. Theyre shitty for just about anything. Not to mention you're basically stuck buying repros which are even worse. Just gets a pair of modern issue style boots if you really want to larp.
Admit. you're one of those guys who thinks a 40 pound pack is too heavy and insists on ultralite overnighter shit, right? TOO HEAVY, DESE BOOTS ARE TOO HEAVY FO MY LEGS! Okay twigman, they have vents
>I've never used them: the post
we get it, you're moronic and talking out your ass
I did have a shitty pair of rothco boots as this guy is describing and they sucked. I love collecting milsurp but I came to the realization a while ago all this stuff is very outdated and objectively worse then civilian equivalents. In this case less comfortable, heavy, etc.
>objectivly worse
Yes, if you have no criteria or metrics while largely operating out of imagination I'm sure they are worse.
For people that have actually used them for more than a day they are superior to most other boots on the market but have a longer break in time--you never made it past the break in time or you got the wrong size.. .regardless, you don't know shit about shit and are talking out your ass.
>these boots are amazing, you just have to let them frick your feet for two months to unlock the superpowers
>thinking it takes two months to break in boots
This is just sad now
It takes very little time to break in MY boots, because I don't insist on wearing lowest-bidder footwear from the 60s.
>jungle boots
>heavy
Either you've never worn them or you've got some weak fricking legs. Confess.
They are significantly heavier than modern synthetic boots
My vote is for "weak fricking legs"
They are heavier moron. If you are doing shit long distance you generally don't want excess weight for aesthetic reasons. Having extra weight on your feet is probably the worst too. I used to be a larper too and used heavy stuff, then I realized I can shed many pointless pounds to make my life significantly better and more comfortable.
Beyond this, older boots are less comfortable due to worse sole and mid sole design. If you want larp boots by modern issue boots like I said previously with better materials and design. They are lighter, more comfortable, and do the same thing.
>weight is aesthetic
Yeah, you've got no idea what you're talking about
Maybe I typed it poorly. You're wearing heavy shit to look like an army guy, so it's extra weight for purely aesthetic reasons and nothing else.
>maybe I didn't know what I was talking about
I buy surplus stuff because it's cheap and durable.
Yeah I did that too, then I tried more modern stuff it's more comfortable and half the weight. I don't take the input of surplus people seriously because I've met very very few long distance Backpacking people who wear it. I used to buy the stuff but once I got into serious hiking I stopped because it's not comfortable and heavier for no reason.
not everyone is buying gear for ultralight backpacking trips moron
Too poor to afford an extra 500 dollars for the perfect kit? Stick to walmart, sweetie.
You don't need to be ultralight, I'm just saying you still typically want to reduce weight and not use scrappy stuff. If you're on PrepHole I'd assume most boot questions would be around hiking or backpacking.
Not saying you need to buy premium, modern designs in general are better. You can get kelty backpacks for $100 that are better than milsurp.
ebay is a treasure trove of ultralight for cheap
frick, even hikerboxes have ul stuff in them at times you can just take for free
different footwear exists for different purposes, telling people they're green because they have different needs than you makes you sound like a fool
This guy have me no information. A post on PrepHole about boots makes me assume it would be for hiking, hunting, or backpacking as the most likely use case.
Common sense suggests that you don't want to wear cinderblocks on your feet; beyond that, minmaxing your footwear is autistic and unnecessary
Not everyone is a basedarmed noodleboy like you, a few pounds of weight makes no difference to a seasoned outdoorsman.
If you apply this logic to your entire kit it actually does. Going from a milsurp backpack to a regular one saves you about 5 lbs which is probably 10% of your carried weight.
That's basically what many of these boots are compared to modern offerings.
>theeth booths are too hebby I need coddon baws on my tootsies waaah
Grow stronger
Im strong, I don't carry pointlessly heavier and worse gear to look cool lol.
See
You sound like a real gem to hike with
>you guise
>akchtshuallee you shouldn't wear those boots because you guise could save 3.219% of your base weight for another DoT slot when we do our raid
>you guise
>hey slow down, I can't keep up
>wait for me, I have to cut another millimeter off of my toothbrush
everytime I go PrepHole with one of these morons, some critical piece of their gear fails and then they beg me to repair it. I see plenty of those homosexual-ass trail runners torn to shreds on the side of the trail around here but I've never seen a pair of jungle boots (or any rugged leather boot) discarded on the side of the trail because they will never critically fail you in your time of need
>multiple trail runners sitting torn up at the side of a trail
This never happens.
Wearing moron rucksack with shit ergonomics that's 5lbs heavier isn't me being an ultralight nerd. I am not an ultralight nerd, I am calling you out on shit gear.
>boot thread
>bitching about rucksacks
I dunno man, maybe you need the moron sack
The topic within my sub convo here clearly switched to milsurp in general.
>I started b***hing about milsurp in general to better suit my goals so it's no longer a boot thread
I live in the tropics and I simply never go hiking during the rainy season.
Not worth the miserable mud and being covered head to toe in land leeches.
If I was going to run Jungle Boots, my first pick would be McRae. They’re probably the gold standard. Jungle Boots are good if you intend on being in a wet, warm and muddy environment. Personally that’s only 4 months of the year for myself, but the kino of using jungle boots probably makes the investment worth it.
I don't think so. Took a magnet to them and it didn't stick
>dubs checked
*rape your feet with the insoles they ship with, should've clarified.
They're not so bad after they break in but to each their own
Fricked up reply and didn't see dubs
Coolant fumes and aluminum dust are rotting my brain kek
I ate some jungle soots when I needed a metal plate in the heal jungle soot have a reproductive problem MADE IN CHINA baby what jangle boots tho hurt my feet
of u want modern tech I'm that style of boot look up boots that fit the OTB category, with the exception of finding lowas on 80% off I normally use OTB style or minimalist regardless of weather or condition, ATM the only I boot I have left are tactical research mini-mil, feels like a slipper but good for hikes and w/e. the ones u linked will be stupid.
5th or whatever vote for going on ebay and getting some lightly used sportiva shit. military shit sucks in every conceivable way. I have never met an infantryman deployed anywhere rugged whose body wasn't a completely shot wreck at 30 and the atrocious equipment and apparel is a huge part of the reason. "toughen up" isn't a good answer for this when the actually tough people are destroyed by it and the person saying it is a larper.
toughen up
Infantrymen are fricked because a Mk-19 weighs 77 pounds. Not because jungle boots are slightly suboptimal for the modern nu-male.
Bad news: here's how acquisition of your badass airsoft boot made from Vietnam notes by real life green berets actually worked
>engineering begins on a pair of boots that will do good thing (during whatever war)
>collated and interpreted by nerds in Ft Cousinfricker Arsenal Mississippi (some years later)
>with the technical data package adjusted due to lobbying by Trumblymumfordshire Leatherworks and Saddlery & Sons est 1821 in Connecticut so they don't have to retool too much or adjust their ancient factory (some years later)
>then adjusted again by the defense logistics agency in order to keep costs down (some years later)
>the solicitation then goes out to bid and Trumblymumfordshire Leatherworks and Saddlery & Sons actually loses because The Yee Haw Novelty Wallet Company in Poopville Arkansas outbids them. This company then files grievances over the data package because it's too expensive and hard (some years later)
>this literal piece of shit, cheap engineering slip soup product designed by a vast committee of morons then proceeds to frick up everyone's feet and knees for the next few wars until the process starts over
finally, in 2023, you buy some of these turds that have been rotting since 1995 and think it's a smart purchase
I couldn't find the part where you make any valid criticisms of a boot that has taken 57 years to replace while being issued to troops all over the world.
It's okay if you don't like them, but nothing is used in the military for almost six decades by accident
No shit. It's used because that's just what they're gonna get. Period. I can rip out all of your teeth and give you shitty dentures. Hey, it works, right? And it saves on dental costs for the military! Nevermind that it's nothing like having natural teeth; it fulfills the contractual standards a committee from 15 years ago said is the minimum requirement for food mastication (which they would abbreviate as FOOMAS).
This is the thought process that went into making your fricking "boots."
they often had a choice. many foreign soldiers in vietnam traded for them. they were good and desirable enough to trade issued kit for.
Foreign soldiers like who? I'm usually not like this, but I'm gonna need to see some fricking proof that anyone traded for these pieces of shit, and if so, what for? If the boots were sooooo good, what are they trading? Their bussies?
The US military jungle boot's popularity extended beyond Americans. Poorly-equipped Australian Army and New Zealand Army soldiers traded for a pair of jungle boots from American troops to use alongside their standard-issue black leather General Purpose Boots (GP Boots). After the 1st Battalion of the Royal Australian Regiment (1 RAR) co-joined the Americans in The Republic Of South Vietnam alongside the US Army's 173rd Airborne Brigade in 1965, many Australian troopers were willingly traded their worthless Army-issue "slouch hats" for a pair of jungle boots from the Americans since the boots Australian troopers were issued were World War II vintage tropical-studded ankle boots and their footwear were poorly suited to the conditions in the country. Australian and New Zealand Special Air Service troopers used American jungle boots during their involvement against the Vietnamese, and they were very popular with SAS troopers. Until the replacement of the GP Boots for the Terra Boots in 2000, Australians wore American footwear with their uniforms; the boots remained popular with Australian soldiers post-Vietnam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_boot
you're a lazy dumb piece of shit. please have a nice day, or at least stop having an opinion on shit you don't understand
>Cites WIKI-FRICKING-PEDIA
Now do gun control and COVID from them.
1. The shitty rothco repros are not the same boot
2. Soldiers with even shittier low funded equipment wanting them doesn't mean anything
>a relatively quick moron did ok compared to his competition in a special Olympics race in 1969
man, that's so relevant to the argument about the fricking cornucopia of modern alternatives made by 2020s companies desperate to stay in business and continually compete with innovative designs - that this thing was better than it's alternative, which was probably a hobnailed boot used by Edmund Hillary on Everest
funny how you keep mentioning all these "modern alternatives" without actually mentioning a boot that does the job of a jungle boot but better
Literally any sportiva gtx boot, to name one single manufacturer among many, will dry faster, be more comfortable, and provide better traction
>First “the boot is a piece of shit bla bla bla” now it’s “but muh modern alternatives”
What a dishonest, homosexualy, snake-ass post. It's a piece of shit and might have had shittier contemporaries. One isn't an admission that the other isn't true. Go take your bag of rhetorical tricks back to your airsoft subreddit.
>lightweight running or trail shoes
You keep pretending that no one makes fricking boots except these pieces of shit
>There is always a trade-off with weight and reliability.
and then act like a wild west character citing senile grandpa platitudes. do you also need the literal fricking METAL soles to avoid punji stakes during airsoft?
>Many modern boots can’t be resoled
which ones? any of the sportiva ones I mentioned can be. I've worn military and modern boots, but apparently you are completely clueless on anything you can't mil larp with
>Maybe you just want to wear a new pair of Skechers, just like we want to wear jungle boots.
Thank god you finally redeemed yourself with a reasonable statement. Yes, someone getting Skechers and Vietnam boots would get either for the same aesthetic reason, and neither involves serious intent to improve the quality of their hiking.
God you fricking airsoft larpers and your mystical worship of this garbage is insane
bottom 5/6ths of is meant for
obviously
>y-you're dishonest and buying cheaper boots that work just fine makes you a larper REEEEEEE
Imagine being this salty over some anon wanting to wear jungle boots. Does it cause you physical pain to know other people enjoy a thing you so blindly hate?
thank you for your complete obliteration and utterly defenseless concession
Beep beep boop beep
Constantly moving the goalpost. First “the boot is a piece of shit bla bla bla” now it’s “but muh modern alternatives”
The boot is arguably great. If modern alternatives have the same features and perform better, then use that. In the ultralight thru-hike community, it’s just a fact that you will burn through multiple pairs of lightweight running or trail shoes. There is always a trade-off with weight and reliability. A well know fact in engineering. Jungle Boots are made for a specific environment and to last as long or longer than the person wearing them. Friends of mine have had the same boots for over twenty years, usually requiring a resole every 5-10. Many modern boots can’t be resoled. Ultralight homosexuals like yourself rarely understand the subjective reality of the whole argument. Maybe you just want to wear a new pair of Skechers, just like we want to wear jungle boots.
it's amazing how you can know so little about what you're talking about and still manage to be as opinionated as you are about it
>get explained in a way that's actually relevant to explaining why things are the way they are
>"n-no, you're just an opinionated moron" instead of any actual critique
Pottery.
MACV-SOG had the choice to wear whatever they pleased. They had an entire department called CISO to get them whatever they wanted, specially manufactured. With all of that in mind, they still chose to run standard Jungle Boots. Why would they do that? Maybe, it’s because the Jungle Boot was the best choice for the environment, the fricking jungle.
>HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FRICK THE JUNGLE BOOT WORKS IN THE JUNGLE WHAT IN TARNATION
>I have never met an infantryman deployed anywhere rugged whose body wasn't a completely shot wreck at 30 and the atrocious equipment and apparel is a huge part of the reason.
>military sends it's soldiers to vietnam
>after some time in the field, the soldiers have given you data on what gear works and what doesn't
>one of the biggest complaints is the issued boot
>statistics say that soldiers are being incapacitated by punji sticks, other traps, and trenchfoot. lugs not good for terrain
>engineering begins on a pair of boots that will protect the user from impalement from multiple axis as well as facilitate moisture transfer and drying quickly
>they widen the lugs on the bottom to help with traction in deep mud and swamp
>huge success
40 years later
>some moron walking on hardpacked trails in fair weather thinks everyone should just wear trail runners all the time
Yet the people who fought in fricking sandals won the war.
>Total Ultralight Victory
my dad still has these boots from his year in Vietnam, crumpled and dusty on a shelf in the basement. he fricking hates them with such a passion that it's hard to me to understand why he would share his home with them, but I think that is why he keeps them around.
Have you ever fricking asked???
It would raise uncomfortable questions about why anon's dad kept him around, kek
He's their dad and they're an adult. Is he capable of having a big-boy conversation without beating them up like an autist?
>their
>they're
>them
All anons are male and to imply any other possibility is blasphemy
Is you can find the German Baltes ones they are extremely good boots.
I'm now dead set on buying a pair just to troll ultralighters
Do it. It'll be such an awesome troll.
I've had a couple of pairs over the years. I liked how light the are. They suck for ankle support and if you're walking on hardball roads, your feet will ache something fierce after 5 miles or so, also in colder temps like late fall, the rubber sole turns hockey puck hard and you will break your ass in a 1/2 " of snow in a parking lot.
are these with the steel inserts?
GoRuck jungle boots are the comfiest shoes I've ever owned.
you mean these ones?
these ones I mean
Incognitio ban got you, eh
I only have these but I imagine the ones you posted fit the exact same, just different material and color. I got my girlfriend a pair and she even loves em too. You should give em a whirl. They fit true to size like a good sneaker. I'm a 12.
>Incognitio ban
yeah that's the same one, just different colour. I have some Timberland boots at the moment which are pretty great, but god damn they're heavy and I feel like a klutz sometimes clogging around in them
nah I just forgot to attach the pitcher
lot of cope and seethe in here
I like Lems Boulder Boots.