It's official now, the Azeris have inked a 1.6 billion dollar deal to buy JF-17 Block 3.
They will go hand in hand with stuff sourced from Turkiye
Jeff for Azerbaijan
It's official now, the Azeris have inked a 1.6 billion dollar deal to buy JF-17 Block 3.
They will go hand in hand with stuff sourced from Turkiye
>Block 3
So from memory it'll have an AESA radar, HMCS, IRST and a bunch of other shit? Neat. I love the JF-17 like you wouldn't believe. Like a bunch of high Chinese engineers had a vision of the F-16 in 2005 or so, forgot it actually existed, and made it from scratch. It's so quirky.
I has come a long way, frankly it's one of those jets that goes under the radar.
It's currently being operated by 3 countries.
Sales are going to pick up, now that block 3 is here. Which fully brings it to a 4.5+ designation.
From 2 different engine options, multiple sensor suite a whole slew of eastern, western, Paki and a mishmash of armaments. It's one of a kind actually
>From 2 different engine options
Have they actually finished that smokeless/decent life Chinese engine they were working on? Wow. Actually huge.
They had fixed the smokey RD-93 early on in Block 2s with minor redisgn.
The important thing is that the 2 seater vairent JF-17B flew with the Chinese WS-13.
Also did you know, the plane was initially designed to use a western engine, that's why the air frame dimensions are a tad bit larger. (It could still be refitted with a western engine, granted someone wants to spend that money)
>WS-13
Isn't the same engine on the FC-31/J-35?
Why not just use the WS-15, which is the one that's actually new.
What are those things? I don't know anything about planes and come from a poor country. Pls explain.
The Azeri's could have done better honestly. I would have gone with the Rafale if it was an option, if not I would have gone with the J-10C.
>Rafale
i guess you missed that part when the french told the azeris to stop trying shit with armenia
Then I'd go with the J-10C
J-10 is a 100% Chinese product. China won’t sell that to nonaligned countries.
Chinks sold AA systems to Serbia, which usually flirts with the EU despite their chudness.
AA is different from planes. Russia sold S400s to turkey.
Yet they didn't seethe that Serbia from time to time flirts with the idea of joining EU.
There's a bunch of other countries who operate Chinese stuff that also have good relations with EU/US and so far they didn't seemed to give much of a shit.
Russia also sells their best fighters to just about anyone.
Lmao imagine thinking China wouldn’t sell J-10s to literally anyone. A couple of year ago they wanted to sell them to Argentina and Colombia. You really think they wouldn’t sell them to the Azeri’s
they 100% would not sell J-10Cs to anyone not currently a client state.
Will this finally get the west to realize roaches aren't our friends quite the opposite in fact
Anon I'm pretty sure that, as long as you're NOT literally the US or UK, Pakistan/China would be pretty happy to sell you these. They're fricking anemic, they have really small payload and range. They're great, but in the same way that a loaded down late model F-16 is great. China would probably execute at least 50 million people if it meant Japan had an entire fleet of these things instead of F-35s.
It's about supporting the Chinese mil industry. The US flipped its shit when some lat am country wanted to buy these last year and offerforced that country F 16s instead.
Little Roachia is now supporting our greatest geostrategic rivals aerospace industry. Ttd.
>continuing shit about roaches
Is it impossible for you to appreciate a plane for what it is without bringing stupid race war shit into it? Get the frick out.
Uh oh, roach spotted.
Seek god.
Oh, neat. Honestly I just want these planes to have better engines so they fly more and we get more footage of them.
The JF-17 also used AIM-9 as well.
Ask how and why the US allowed that.
Besides that it's nice to see how far this program has come.
From pic related
Iterative improvement works great
Early JF-17 didn't have DSI, so they plucked the head honcho from the J-10 and J-20 who recommend they go DSI
Now it's all matured to what the original design intended. The long ass Iterative cycle is a result of multiple western sanctions on the program and host countries.
What block 3 is now, was what the program intended to achieve 20 years ago. By just sourcing western tech, that did not happen because stuff (China).
So the program had to wait like a whole ass decade so the Chinese could catch up.
Wtf are you talking about? Peace Pearl was a J-7 modernization program. Its goal wasn’t to produce a light weight multirole fighter.
>roaches aren't our friends
That feeling is mutual though. Supporting the PKK with literally everything you got plus sanctioning Turkey whenever they go after their interests showed that you don't see them as friends. Even during the most pro-western times, Turkey got fricked by the EU whenever and wherever possible.
Everyone ignore this homosexual, he's trying to bait to get the thread deleted.
Well done törkŷ
moron here, why not just buy F-16s?
If the US is willing to sell them to Turkey, then surely they're willing to sell them to Azerbaijan, no?
Turkey also has a sizeable fleet of them, would probably be cheaper to train pilots and provide spare parts if needed from there.
Is the price their main concern?
>moron here, why not just buy F-16s?
Price-tag and/or political shenanigans which come with such purchase.
You might not believe it but F-16 sales are already booked for the next 5 years or so.
The JF-17 gives the option of an absolute wide slew of kit that the F-16 could ever dream of. Air to Air, Ground and Sea. And then some.
All that comes with a do whatever you want.
Want to shoot down Indian jets? Sure
Want to bomb Rohingya refugees? Absolutely
Want to shoot down Iranian drones? Be my guest
Want to strafing boko haram? How much ammo do you want
You forgot to start your second sentence with
>THE BIG YES
Your silly, racist meme will not cover up the fact that USA has lost its monopoly on stealth technology lmaozers
Because JF-17 can use all the random ass soviet/Russian missiles the Azerbaijan have in their inventory. Also they don't have to worry about the US cutting if their parts supply.
>nobody buys the J-10 with its 4 missile/bomb hardpoints only
>nobody cares about chink feelings
Did you know Pakistan also fields a domestic BVR designated as FAAZ.
With a range of around 100km, it takes "heavy" inspiration from Chinese equivalent.
But the FAAZ - II varient has an estimated range of 180km. Which is now being merged with Turkish Gokdogan BVR program. So it will be an interesting missile combining western and Chinese tech
Nice
Turkish F-16s disabled the entire Armenian airforce. They were equipped with the latest Sukhoi fighters.
> They were equipped with the latest Sukhoi fighters.
Wtf are you talking about?
>"Su-30 were left unused in the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war as a result of the purchase of aircraft without missiles."
yeah
Firstoids don't understand that most thirdies can't afford F-16s and even if they can they could only afford a handful of them while most do not want political strings attached when it comes to their military purchases.
They don't want to be dictated by America and just want the hardware.
To think if india had just keep its MiG-21 line running they could have an equivalent fighter today.
>t. moron
Jeff is cool and all, like a 3rd world version of the F-16.
But i feel like the J-10C is much better if you REALLY wanna frick up Armenians and Iranians.
Couple that with some J-10D's to EW the frick out of their AA and you're golden.
Armenia should just develop nuclear weapons. They're going to be overwhelmed if they don't. Maybe they can even convince the Iranians to help them out with it.
>landlocked and surround by two of your worst enemies, a world pariah and a defeated nation
>The country who promissed you protection completely ignored you request and currently is eating shit in eastern europe
>had to resort to trying to approach to western nations, which many are dependant on Azeri oil
>because of that, the country who were supposed to give you protection in the first place now purposedly ignores you out of spite
>your only options now is to either try to convince the west Armenia is important or try an approach with the world pariah in the south, thus pissing off literally everyone
Man... they're fricked.
If they were smart they should've gone full Chinese long ago.
What's this mean for Armenia?
That means Azerbaijan can use Turkish and Pakistani-made munitions freely. Including cruise missiles and long-range gliding bombs. Before, Azerbaijani bombers needed elaborate upgrades on Russian junks solely for dropping some guided bomb. Pic related, Azerbaijani Su-25 modified for fielding Turkish HGK-84
This is going to be huge problem for Armenia because they lost two last wars to miniature bombs dropped from propeller drones. Now they need to face actual bombs & cruise missiles
OPS, wrong picture
Lol. Even Pakis are outproducing the Duchy of Muscow. Sad.
Yea, the "Pakistanis" from Chengdu factory.