>tfw Seaman 2nd Class Hiroshima Nagasaki >tfw assigned to a mighty battleship right out of training >tfw duty station is lookout on O76-level bridge >tfw general quarters sounds >tfw battle is over before I finish climbing to my station >tfw have to climb all the way back down so I can finish eating my rice and fish dinner
Russia is a kleptocracy in massive decline from the barely-above Third World economy they had under the Soviet Union. They do not know how to build, just how to enslave their population and sell off their natural resources for trinkets.
China knows what wealth is and how to build it.
Can you imagine something like this coming out of Russia?
The Chinese like what they have; they want to build themselves up much, much higher; they know that white people will try to destroy them if they come close to equaling whites in power, and they're building up a defense to deter it..
Are you so certain that a people that are dedicated to building wealth are going to forget to test whether their weapons have any capability?
>Are you so certain that a people that are dedicated to building wealth are going to forget to test whether their weapons have any capability?
That's the thing, Anon. Who are they going to test it against? Every regional neighbor is either an "ally" they've spent the last couple centuries antagonizing, an ally to the west that can't be touched without starting the war you're really preparing for too soon, or an international trade lynchpin that can't be touched. Their only option is to double down on their African expansion efforts and slap some thirdies around in order to build up institutional experience, and they're not at that point yet.
Sick video though, made me feel good about learning Chinese in my spare time.
>Are you so certain that a people that are dedicated to building wealth are going to forget to test whether their weapons have any capability?
That's the thing, Anon. Who are they going to test it against? Every regional neighbor is either an "ally" they've spent the last couple centuries antagonizing, an ally to the west that can't be touched without starting the war you're really preparing for too soon, or an international trade lynchpin that can't be touched. Their only option is to double down on their African expansion efforts and slap some thirdies around in order to build up institutional experience, and they're not at that point yet.
Sick video though, made me feel good about learning Chinese in my spare time.
China does surprisingly little weapon exports considering the sheer volume of weapons they manufacture - but wherever their stuff does find its way into the hands of other countries, the reports are brutal.
The F-22P frigates that China sold Pakistan vent carbon monoxide into crew areas if they're pushed to full speed. The fricking rudder fell off of one of them. Just *clink* snapperoni.
The APCs that Kenya bought from them have no "A" whatsoever, there have been dozens of casualties from Boko Haram attacks just cutting the vehicles up like tin foil with any weapon they use
You mean just using shit tons of foreign investment capital to pump ponzi schemes until they inevitably collapse? China is going to collapse this decade from it's moronic commie demographics alone. It's over.
Wealth is mostly human capital. In that sense the west is collapsing too, since the white boomers are about to die and be replaced by more or less worthless browns and women.
Exactly, all of the wealth in China comes from The West. All the resources are imported, food, energy, everything. Every local industry and business there is a pure LARP that the CCP props up to promote even more foreign investment. Thankfully COVID has shown just how vulnerable the Chinese system is and foreign businesses are now leaving in droves. They have a fake economy and a fake military that will come crumbling apart as soon as the tiniest action is taken against. Mark my words, China as we know it today will not see 2030.
Don't they need to change their constitution for that? They've only been getting away with it so far because Hericopter Desteroyer with pranes is not Carrier prease underastand.
The constitution doesn't specifically ban carriers, instead...
>ARTICLE 9. (1) Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.
(2) In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be sustained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.
So, yeah, they've ignored that for well over half a century by now. Now such may not always be terribly popular with the Japanese people, but what are they gonna do about it, not vote LDP? Yeah, didn't think so.
Technically JSDF is well-armed police, and JMSDF ships are not warships but Escort Ship (護衛艦) or Guard Ship (警備艦) in their nomenclature. The official designation for DDG for example is Ko-IV (甲IV) type Guard Ship, and DDH is Ko-III (甲III) type Guard Ship.
>well-armed police
With heavy artillery, fighter jets and attack submarines. So yeah, carriers wouldn't really cross any lines they haven't already run Shinkansen rails over.
Pixelated porn is kino, it makes it look like the girls wearing dildos have real dicks
2 years ago
Anonymous
They have to pixelate dildos, that's actually in the constitution? Jesus...
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, it's not in the constitution.
The media laws probably do have something to do with the US occupation though. MacArthur was big on press censorship during the occupation.
Changing a constitution is not that big of a deal. In the end, it’s just a legal document.
Ignoring the problematic part is no long term solution. Changing the law is.
Helicopter destroyers with planes, submarines, fighters, etc. are interpreted as defensive weapons, an actual carrier (to them and the rest of Asia too) would be seen as a sign that they're prepping Nanking 2.0. Yes it's moronic but they're obstinately fixated on those things for some reason.
Nah Yamato and Musashi need to be reserved for something truly awesome. 600m long, 800,000 tonne displacement, guns so powerful and accurate it can shoot itself in the back of the turret, and armor so thick it could do it and survive.
It says Houshou.
But it doesn't matter because this is just a mockup from a dumb magazine. Japan isn't making a full sized carrier and won't do so in the near future. They're sticking to VTOL.
It actually makes me curious, since Russia will be completely unable to develop modern weaponry because of the lack of semi-conductors due to sanctions. What will happen to all the exported Russian military aircraft? They all rely very heavily on continuous support and maintenance from the Russian homeland. Are all the Indian SU-30s just going to sit in hangars until they are sold for scrap, or will India come up with some kind of domestic solution to keep the platform viable going forward?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Western upgrade packages would be my guess.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Can they actually do that? I'm unsure how much Westerm and Russian tech can actually talk to each other for a variety of reasons. Seems like just getting a whole new aircraft that has an existing support apparatus would be cheaper in the long run over trying to maintain the obsolete legacy systems. Who is going to develop these upgrade packages? Poland? Give me a break.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That may be the ultimate goal. But I know some, like the Malaysians particularly, do have a mix of Western and Eastern tech in their Sukhois.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Some Polish company upgraded their MiGs to NATO standards and Iran is still using Tomcats, they'll come up with some ghetto method to make it work.
2 years ago
Anonymous
India actually indigenously produces and maintains their MKI as part of the technology transfer with Russia. Hell, they explicitly throw in Flanker support service alongside the Tejas offer.
What Carrier are you talking about, friend? This is clearly a long-range mobile refueling platform for search and rescue operations. Don't you know the Dragon's Triangle is very dangerous for fishing boats?
Why is the bridge so tall?
not tall enough
>that pic
Why?
Traditional pagoda mast gaijin GO HOMU
>source is weibo
>literally plagiarized HHI's CVX rendition
Into the trash it goes.
WE HAVE TO GO TALLER
>tfw Seaman 2nd Class Hiroshima Nagasaki
>tfw assigned to a mighty battleship right out of training
>tfw duty station is lookout on O76-level bridge
>tfw general quarters sounds
>tfw battle is over before I finish climbing to my station
>tfw have to climb all the way back down so I can finish eating my rice and fish dinner
>no ramp
and a real carrier, not some thirdie quality knockoff
Again, ramps are useful for all-weather deployment because steam CATOBARs require warm up time in cold weather.
>implying that a new carrier to help the US offset China won't have an EMALS system.
what kind of bs cope is this?
KEEP it warm if you must.
Why not say just say Ramps are better for LHDs, which they clearly are
They keep that shit ready to go at any time they can launch planes. That's not a problem with proper planning and training.
i heard they were building 2 arsenal ships not a carrier
big enough for a wave motion gun
>and then there are weeks where decades happen
Based Japan rising from the ashes to reclaim their sea power.
>China is DONE
Uh, you realize China's entire coastal defense is built around sinking carriers, right?
>Russia's entire war strategy is built around overwhelming artillery power and denial of the air to the enemy
ok I guess we'll see
Russia is a kleptocracy in massive decline from the barely-above Third World economy they had under the Soviet Union. They do not know how to build, just how to enslave their population and sell off their natural resources for trinkets.
China knows what wealth is and how to build it.
Can you imagine something like this coming out of Russia?
The Chinese like what they have; they want to build themselves up much, much higher; they know that white people will try to destroy them if they come close to equaling whites in power, and they're building up a defense to deter it..
Are you so certain that a people that are dedicated to building wealth are going to forget to test whether their weapons have any capability?
>Are you so certain that a people that are dedicated to building wealth are going to forget to test whether their weapons have any capability?
That's the thing, Anon. Who are they going to test it against? Every regional neighbor is either an "ally" they've spent the last couple centuries antagonizing, an ally to the west that can't be touched without starting the war you're really preparing for too soon, or an international trade lynchpin that can't be touched. Their only option is to double down on their African expansion efforts and slap some thirdies around in order to build up institutional experience, and they're not at that point yet.
Sick video though, made me feel good about learning Chinese in my spare time.
China does surprisingly little weapon exports considering the sheer volume of weapons they manufacture - but wherever their stuff does find its way into the hands of other countries, the reports are brutal.
The F-22P frigates that China sold Pakistan vent carbon monoxide into crew areas if they're pushed to full speed. The fricking rudder fell off of one of them. Just *clink* snapperoni.
The APCs that Kenya bought from them have no "A" whatsoever, there have been dozens of casualties from Boko Haram attacks just cutting the vehicles up like tin foil with any weapon they use
Meanwhile, their brand-new next gen assault rifles
its a feature westoid
Why what's wrong it's just a normalLOH MY GOD WHAT THE FRICK
L O L that's sad
See how they're training in a room with concrete walls? Those are training rounds, probably frangible or rubber or something.
>China knows what wealth is and how to build it
You mean just using shit tons of foreign investment capital to pump ponzi schemes until they inevitably collapse? China is going to collapse this decade from it's moronic commie demographics alone. It's over.
>inb4 muh robots will save china
Wealth is wealth, idiot. There is no "collapse" from building wealth, since you possess the wealth you didn't have before.
Wealth is mostly human capital. In that sense the west is collapsing too, since the white boomers are about to die and be replaced by more or less worthless browns and women.
Exactly, all of the wealth in China comes from The West. All the resources are imported, food, energy, everything. Every local industry and business there is a pure LARP that the CCP props up to promote even more foreign investment. Thankfully COVID has shown just how vulnerable the Chinese system is and foreign businesses are now leaving in droves. They have a fake economy and a fake military that will come crumbling apart as soon as the tiniest action is taken against. Mark my words, China as we know it today will not see 2030.
Most everything china makes is fricking garbage. Their military is fricking Walmart grade you punk.
Ah yes and those soviet missile copies have proven effective time and again, haven't they anon?
moron
It's not real. It's just a mock-up from some magazine.
I was just about to ask if this was anything official or just Jingo Monthly wishlisting.
When are you going to post pics? All you did is post a destroyer.
That's clearly a destroyer.
my wives...
You're gonna have to share a bit mate. That's too much goodness for one anon
>That's clearly a destroyer
For now......
Aircraft destroyer. To compliment the helicopter destroyers.
Don't they need to change their constitution for that? They've only been getting away with it so far because Hericopter Desteroyer with pranes is not Carrier prease underastand.
No no, that's a HEAVY destroyer, just a little bigger than the last ones you see.
The constitution doesn't specifically ban carriers, instead...
>ARTICLE 9. (1) Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.
(2) In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be sustained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.
So, yeah, they've ignored that for well over half a century by now. Now such may not always be terribly popular with the Japanese people, but what are they gonna do about it, not vote LDP? Yeah, didn't think so.
Technically JSDF is well-armed police, and JMSDF ships are not warships but Escort Ship (護衛艦) or Guard Ship (警備艦) in their nomenclature. The official designation for DDG for example is Ko-IV (甲IV) type Guard Ship, and DDH is Ko-III (甲III) type Guard Ship.
>well-armed police
With heavy artillery, fighter jets and attack submarines. So yeah, carriers wouldn't really cross any lines they haven't already run Shinkansen rails over.
Now that you mention it, how can we weaponize shinkansen? Purely for self defense, of course.
mount old naval artillery on the shinkansen
can it handle the weight?
Put a railgun on it. Gustav Schwerer 2.0, when you really need to shoot and SCOOT
Nah. Won't do shit to an Angel
I mean, American police have APCs and tanks, why can't the Japanese?
>The Japanese police have aircraft carriers and main battle tanks
American police can only dream about killing Black folk that efficiently.
And? It’s not like you cannot change that.
It means they don't need to change their constitution to have carriers, because they're already ignoring the bit they'd violate.
I hope they change the part where they have to pixelate genitals in porn too.
Pixelated porn is kino, it makes it look like the girls wearing dildos have real dicks
They have to pixelate dildos, that's actually in the constitution? Jesus...
No, it's not in the constitution.
The media laws probably do have something to do with the US occupation though. MacArthur was big on press censorship during the occupation.
They have. Some companies at least. Search JAV uncensored.
Changing a constitution is not that big of a deal. In the end, it’s just a legal document.
Ignoring the problematic part is no long term solution. Changing the law is.
Helicopter destroyers with planes, submarines, fighters, etc. are interpreted as defensive weapons, an actual carrier (to them and the rest of Asia too) would be seen as a sign that they're prepping Nanking 2.0. Yes it's moronic but they're obstinately fixated on those things for some reason.
Self defense only.
And what is the best defense?
This is a famous Japanese shit magazine.
It is not even an official plan.
Only Chinese and Koreans believe it.
with what industry?
moronic question. They're still one of the world's top manufacturing and exporting economies.
The Japanese one.
the one that's one of the largest in the world
They better name her Akagi.
Frick no. Name that big nasty bawd the Yamato. And it better rock a giant chrysanthemum on the front.
Save Yamato for the inevitable rise of the Japanese navy to full strength.
Nah Yamato and Musashi need to be reserved for something truly awesome. 600m long, 800,000 tonne displacement, guns so powerful and accurate it can shoot itself in the back of the turret, and armor so thick it could do it and survive.
Nope.
Shinano.
Fuji, you idiots. FUJI. It's nationalistic without any of the baggage of WW2.
Bet on the name? 10 internet for Shinano.
It says Houshou.
But it doesn't matter because this is just a mockup from a dumb magazine. Japan isn't making a full sized carrier and won't do so in the near future. They're sticking to VTOL.
But it should be real.
I bet my balls it's going to be Evangelion-related somehow.
No shit, since Evangelion named their characters after imperial navy ships.
the Nanking
>No source supporting claim of a new class of carrier
>Same week as those new BMD ships were announced
an embarrassing thread
If your carriers are so big why can't you carry the Kuril islands back?
I hope we live in the timeline where Ukrainian Sukhois one day land on a Japanese aircraft carrier to do joint exercises over Taiwan.
Man, we can dream.
SUKHOI SUKHOI SUKHOI SUKHOI SUKHOI
Is dead along with the rest of the Russian arms industry lol.
And from the ashes of war, Antonov will rise again.
It actually makes me curious, since Russia will be completely unable to develop modern weaponry because of the lack of semi-conductors due to sanctions. What will happen to all the exported Russian military aircraft? They all rely very heavily on continuous support and maintenance from the Russian homeland. Are all the Indian SU-30s just going to sit in hangars until they are sold for scrap, or will India come up with some kind of domestic solution to keep the platform viable going forward?
Western upgrade packages would be my guess.
Can they actually do that? I'm unsure how much Westerm and Russian tech can actually talk to each other for a variety of reasons. Seems like just getting a whole new aircraft that has an existing support apparatus would be cheaper in the long run over trying to maintain the obsolete legacy systems. Who is going to develop these upgrade packages? Poland? Give me a break.
That may be the ultimate goal. But I know some, like the Malaysians particularly, do have a mix of Western and Eastern tech in their Sukhois.
Some Polish company upgraded their MiGs to NATO standards and Iran is still using Tomcats, they'll come up with some ghetto method to make it work.
India actually indigenously produces and maintains their MKI as part of the technology transfer with Russia. Hell, they explicitly throw in Flanker support service alongside the Tejas offer.
>Houshou
good choice
The protagonist (USA) beats a rival (Japan) and they join up to fight together.
Just like my animes
THE BLACK SHIPS
JAPAN WILL RISE AGAIN
What Carrier are you talking about, friend? This is clearly a long-range mobile refueling platform for search and rescue operations. Don't you know the Dragon's Triangle is very dangerous for fishing boats?
Future third biggest military spender, coming up
TENNO HEIKA! BANZAI!
ay yo, where da ramp @
>Japan is remilitarizing
Only good can come out of this, haha!
Uh, yeah, sure, go ahead. A-as long as it doesn't , uh, "transform", haha.
1. A bit too late considering political weather
2. They're close to China anyway.