Arguably, yes. Their current setup basically allows them to operate (in peacetime) for up to a month before needing resupply. That's a pretty short leash. Now they could resupply while underway, but that is no small feat (especially during wartime) and theat makes them much easier to trac and counter.
In short, their carriers are meant for patroling their own shores or maybe going out as far as Taiwan or SCS "islands."
Give credit where it’s due, this is actually the better idea than China forming an inexperienced Blue Water navy and then trying to learn the craft of power projection.
China’s entire military strategy is regional hegemony, which China has more experience in than LARPing like they’re an equivalent to US naval power.
Yeah. The key to beating the US for them in luring them close. They have all those small missile boats and an absolutely comic number of MLRS systems, most of which can fire anti-ship missiles.
Give credit where it’s due, this is actually the better idea than China forming an inexperienced Blue Water navy and then trying to learn the craft of power projection.
China’s entire military strategy is regional hegemony, which China has more experience in than LARPing like they’re an equivalent to US naval power.
This tracks, there was an article a while back arguing that China has been heavily influenced by Imperial Germany in its naval strategy, in which it wants a navy that is centered around its region and the islands in the SCS that can function as a sheltered area for its navy to operate in while hoping the USN will have to divide itself and be away from support.
Arguably, yes. Their current setup basically allows them to operate (in peacetime) for up to a month before needing resupply. That's a pretty short leash. Now they could resupply while underway, but that is no small feat (especially during wartime) and theat makes them much easier to trac and counter.
In short, their carriers are meant for patroling their own shores or maybe going out as far as Taiwan or SCS "islands."
for up to a week before needing resupply*
Forgive me, I haven't had my coffeee. That was completely moronic.
I'm confused, is the J-35 the carrier version of the J-31 or the export version? I thought it was the carrier version but then I see talk about Pakistan ordering them and that doesn't make sense.
I do wonder if Iran might get them some day. Is it STOVL?
It seems that they are going like the F-35, J-35 will get a navy and a air force variant. FC-31 was an unpolished prototype/demonstrator and has changed a lot since.
Pakistan looking at buying air force model.
If it is STOVL, imagine seeing Iranian J-31s taking off from Iran's ridiculous moronic oil tanker "carrier." lol
I really hope the US can pressure China not to sell to Iran. Because between Arab pilots and operational incompetence and brinkmanship there, I could definitely see a poorly piloted F-15 eating its first aerial loss to some Chinese BVR launched off the J-31. I want the girl to retire with her record in tact, and the Saudis got her shot down by fricking Iranian monkey model SAMs sent to Yemen already.
>3rd carrier >still working on testbed stuff for an eventual build out design
Apparently they started cutting metal for the Type 004 back in 2017 haven't seen anything since then.
I could reasonably believe if you if changs ever demonstrated any ounce of innovation. As it stands the land empire needing its ocean navy reeks off new rich prestige complex combined with mindlessly copying the burgers
For taiwan the mainland is more then enough to house all of the missiles and planes they ever need to attack it
The only thing this means is the Chinese would struggle to properly bully Western aircraft, unfortunately I do not forsee a future where this style of dogfighting maneuvering matters unfortunately
>Modern carrier
>non-nuclear powered
Nice one Chang
do they need a nuclear carrier to harass the US up to guam and Singapore?
Arguably, yes. Their current setup basically allows them to operate (in peacetime) for up to a month before needing resupply. That's a pretty short leash. Now they could resupply while underway, but that is no small feat (especially during wartime) and theat makes them much easier to trac and counter.
In short, their carriers are meant for patroling their own shores or maybe going out as far as Taiwan or SCS "islands."
Give credit where it’s due, this is actually the better idea than China forming an inexperienced Blue Water navy and then trying to learn the craft of power projection.
China’s entire military strategy is regional hegemony, which China has more experience in than LARPing like they’re an equivalent to US naval power.
Yeah. The key to beating the US for them in luring them close. They have all those small missile boats and an absolutely comic number of MLRS systems, most of which can fire anti-ship missiles.
Fighting the US far away is a losing strategy.
This tracks, there was an article a while back arguing that China has been heavily influenced by Imperial Germany in its naval strategy, in which it wants a navy that is centered around its region and the islands in the SCS that can function as a sheltered area for its navy to operate in while hoping the USN will have to divide itself and be away from support.
for up to a week before needing resupply*
Forgive me, I haven't had my coffeee. That was completely moronic.
That’s one heck of an Achilles heel.
Assuming the war lasts two weeks, Chang is going to need to get him a drummer and some oarsmen.
Up to Guam? Yes you dishit
>guam and Singapore
No, the PLAAF can already harass Guam and Singapore
They didn't say modern carrier. They said Type 003 carrier
This is fine, I don't want to think about how environmentally devastating a true Chinese blue water navy would be.
I'm confused, is the J-35 the carrier version of the J-31 or the export version? I thought it was the carrier version but then I see talk about Pakistan ordering them and that doesn't make sense.
I do wonder if Iran might get them some day. Is it STOVL?
It seems that they are going like the F-35, J-35 will get a navy and a air force variant. FC-31 was an unpolished prototype/demonstrator and has changed a lot since.
Pakistan looking at buying air force model.
I think the J-35 is the one they're gonna use on the carrier and J-31 is the export version.
If it is STOVL, imagine seeing Iranian J-31s taking off from Iran's ridiculous moronic oil tanker "carrier." lol
I really hope the US can pressure China not to sell to Iran. Because between Arab pilots and operational incompetence and brinkmanship there, I could definitely see a poorly piloted F-15 eating its first aerial loss to some Chinese BVR launched off the J-31. I want the girl to retire with her record in tact, and the Saudis got her shot down by fricking Iranian monkey model SAMs sent to Yemen already.
NTA, but didn't Saudi Arabia also wanted the J-31? They even want it the final assembly to be there.
F15 has been shot down by SAM before
It wasn't shot down. A wing was blown off, but it was able to return to base.
implessive
>Chang makes his daily thread reminding us that literally nothing is happening
Vely implessive. Now has it been out to sea without catching fire Chang? Or is there water in the jet fuel so it won’t be able to fly?
>BRWACKED.COM
the launch rail hurls it into the water with a big SPLOOSH
Its actually been sitting on that deck for the past 30 days waiting for the EMALS to charge up for 1(ONE) singular launch sometime circa 2026
Reminder that China uses this carrier as a test bed and was never intended to be used in combat.
>3rd carrier
>still working on testbed stuff for an eventual build out design
Apparently they started cutting metal for the Type 004 back in 2017 haven't seen anything since then.
I could reasonably believe if you if changs ever demonstrated any ounce of innovation. As it stands the land empire needing its ocean navy reeks off new rich prestige complex combined with mindlessly copying the burgers
For taiwan the mainland is more then enough to house all of the missiles and planes they ever need to attack it
It's fricking midnight where you are OP, go get some rest.
They don’t allow factory camp workers sleep, they need to build 40 more toasters before nap break.
nice.
I like the FC-31/J-35, apparently Pakistan wants to buy it too.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2024/01/04/pakistan-to-buy-chinese-fc-31-fighter-jets-says-air-chief/
Why is it covered in a sheet Chang ? Is it that shit that you don't want anyone seeing it ?
Pigdogs continue underestimating their greatest threat.
Chinks continue underestimating their greatest threat: themselves.
is the carrier even out of drydock?
are they planning to YEET this thing into a dock yard gantry?
They're paiting the flightdeck right now, once It's done It'll go straight to sea trials so having a J-35 on board isn't that strange.
Any news about the "super" carrier?
what the frick are those turrets, and why the frick would you want it on a carrier
Railguns
they're just copying ace combat and adding railguns to make up for lack of space for missile bays
Is J-35 like Chink F-35 but with canards?
more like someone tried to draw a raptor in MS paint
It's more like a twin engine and sleeker version of the F-35
That can't take off from a carrier while carrying any munitions.
>seeker
Unimplessive.
The only thing this means is the Chinese would struggle to properly bully Western aircraft, unfortunately I do not forsee a future where this style of dogfighting maneuvering matters unfortunately
Are we getting a new thread every time a Chang takes a dump off the side of a carrier?