It's so sad seeing states like Montana experience population booms, it drives up the real estate, COL, etc and urbanizes a beautiful state.
Realistically, how do we stop this? I know the winters filter a lot of people (thankfully) but I fear this is the future of the US
start a bounty for the scalps from the CA trashfugees that are shitting up the entire west coast.
stop 100% of immigration
then mass deportations.
Sounds based but not realistic right now unless Bishop gets in and secedes
>222
Observed
this is the only correct solution
Ecofascism is the way.
>moronic trust fund babies are the way
shhh just get in the oven with the rest of the filth.
>he doesn't know that the guys who put people in ovens were the first organised environmentalists
Fricking american
>that the guys who put people in ovens
This never happened.
>Ecofascism
A libsbit meme for vegan morons and edgy teens who lean liberal.
AVALANCHE?
Idaho anon. They're also ruined here. Locals can't even afford a studio apartment now because all the callifornia refugees have savings from their shitty inflated economy that pays 20$ to work at mcdonalds.
I would be in favor.
I hope you don't mean its McDonalds wageslaves making 20/hr moving here and buying our already overpriced
Make interstate travel illegal
oregonian here
checked, true, and based
carpet-bomb portland while you're at it
This.
Depopulation is the only way to stop overpopulation.
We need a nice, solid war.
The growing theory is that world population is about to implode.
the nwo is already one step ahead of you. at least half the world pop will be gone by 2050, wish it were sooner though
Decrease population
Cali, Texas, and NY homosexuals are starting to move all over the country and shit it up. I swear to the Lord, I see more Cali/NY/Texas tags here in Mississippi than I do fricking Mississippi tags. FRICK THE FRICK OFF!?!?
dont worry, no one wants to move to mississippi
Bro they’re just driving through trying to get to Florida
Californians are also spreading overseas and wrecking havoc. Not even Americans in general, specifically Californians. In Costa Rica Californians have successfully lobbied to tax muh clinate and make staring at women illegal in the past year.
It’s over.
Build a wall
Hard pill to swallow but make working from home illegal in all 50 states. Then nobody will come to MT.
but what if you already work remotely in your native state?
i love my comfy forest home and working remotely, but at the same time i'd love to keep SV bugmen in their fricking place.
Cleanse the land of them
Make working from home state bound, that makes more sense imo
As a Californian, what's the best way for me to marry and ruin a 10/10 Montana qt3.14 so that no local Montanans can have her?
dunno, neglect to put her back in the stable after your done with her on your wedding night?
or are you wanting to follow the more traditional CA wedding ritual
>I now pronounce you xer and xer; you may now be pegged by the bride
Kek, if she comes from a rural area then she's been "had" multiple times before her 18th birthday.
Correction, if she exists and is biologically female she has been used and abused, feeded and sneeded, long before 18.
There is no stopping it, I wish there was cause they're ruining everything about these beautiful states. But with time they'll move cause they realize they cant get starbucks.
I mean you could kill them
I kid btw
I kid as I’m joking btw
Don’t actually pick Californians off on the hiking trails where no one would be able to find them for
You had my attention until you the second line
You don't. You'll end up like europe and then people will spill over to the last bits of nature.
As a european I can attest to that. Rich boomers are spoiling the last natural places, but thankfully it'll take them a couple of more decades until Romania will get urbanized. Better enjoy it while it lasts!
You deserve what you tolerate.
You tolerate these vermin invading your land and desecration it. Therefore, you deserve it.
this. make them feel uncomfy and unwelcome.
>insert floridaman throwing gators over calirefugee woman's yard to make her leave
what if I was born in CA against my will and want to stop getting ass raped by taxes and homeless homosexuals?
john you are the homosexuals
Kill them, be the change you want to see.
>Realistically, how do we stop this?
Hate crimes, short of assault and murder. Burn the Californian flag in public, anti-Cali graffiti, egging houses. Maybe create an outfit that you and fellow California-haters can wear. Like, a tall pointy hat that emphasizes how you're trying to get your "point" across.
This only emboldens people and gives them a self-perceived martyrdom. How do people not know by now that telling people they can't do something inspires a "can-do" attitude? The best thing to do would be to stop talking about Montana and how great it is, while also hoping that any who slip through the cracks end up in urban areas like Billings and Bozeman and fricking stay there.
The original Klan,
the actual terrorist parallel-government organization, not the later social club reimaginings, accomplished its goals handily.
>Realistically, how do we stop this?
Elect a governor who is anti-progess.
Yes some wealthy corporations will probably push back on him, maybe even resort to violence. Attack his family, etc. But despite being a cow farmer he has the people, money, loyalty, etc to fight back.
>thinks TV is real
Sure thing John Dutton
i think it was a joke m9
I hope so.
Secede, commence gorilla warfare.
Oh, BOOHOO! Montana and Wyoming have ALWAYS been full of transplants. Most of the people that live there moved there in the 90s to LARP as cowboys, it's boomers who grew up watching John Wayne.
and that's fine, they by and large didn't go out of their way to bring their horrible progressive ideologies with them in an effort to 'better' the natives like the trash from CA tend to do.
fippy was right all along.
The bigger issue is them driving up the price of everything, starting with housing. This would be a problem even if it were all conservatives moving in.
>The bigger issue is them driving up the price of everything, starting with housing. This would be a problem even if it were all conservatives moving in.
Blaming the carpetbaggers is missing the target, and I say this as a Southern Appalachian who loves to blame Californians for just about everything. The glee I've experienced as Californians finally got all the water they've been crying for this winter was pure kino and a blessing from Poseidon.
The correct target is the establishment which allows corporations, investors, the Chinese, etc. to buy up properties whenever the market crashes or dips, then convert them all into BnBs, upscale condos, etc. as current trends dictate, or just let them sit empty. Carpetbagging is going to keep happening so long as housing is a functionally unregulated commodity and a source of "residual income" and maximized profits for parasitic landlords, be they individual Baby Boomers or major Chinese corporations.
There's also the ever-stagnating wage to consider. If people literally cannot afford to live somewhere, they'll leave. There have been a few cases in the US of smaller upscale/exclusive towns/communities accidentally forgetting to leave any affordable housing nearby where the peasants who'll serve their needs can live.
I agree with what you are saying about the root cause of it being a general problem, not just a lefty state one.
However, I do think a big part of it has to be attributed to the local politics of the states they are fleeing. The places that are bleeding population the most are leftist states and the ones that are gaining are red ones. It is these blue states that are the most prohibitively expensive, while the red ones are managing to remain cheaper. There is population density to take into account too, as density correlates with migration too. But Texas and Florida are the states receiving the most migrants and they have some of the biggest population centres in America.
T. Albertan
See, that's the really insidious thing about Californians fleeing to other states: Both progressive social policies and conservative fiscal practices are to blame. Despite being a deeply blue state socially, California's real estate market is as fiscally conservative as they come.
California is the worst of both worlds. It's as greedy, corrupt, and intensely capitalistic as the worst Republican caricatures, while at the same time being the woke nexus of the US.
Yet there is beautiful land there, and good people. It's just all overshadowed by the moronation.
>california
>capitalistic
kek there is no capitalism in the US of A and especially not cali
John Bozeman was from Georgia
Yeah this, lol @ all you homosexuals who think you can stop any of this from happening
they should make it illegal to vote for 5 years or something after moving to a new state. either way, you won't stop me from moving to the rockies and taking the women
also, i was looking at pictures of Telluride and saw they had lgbt flags lined down the street lol, very sad
They are going to cover that state in concrete, glass and drug dealing immigrants, there is nothing you can. Find a better place to live or keep getting treated like cattle.
>'s so sad seeing states like Montana experience population booms
hyperbole. Montana as added ~200,000 people in the last 25yrs.
holy shit that's like 1% per year!
What was MT prior?
And politically, you don’t think that’s a huge blue shift that is basically fricking the sensible natives over with whacky progressive bullshit that worked so well where the invaders came from?
Without fail progressives ruin everything they touch, then seek out new hosts to destroy.
>you don’t think that’s a huge blue shift that is basically fricking the sensible natives over with whacky progressive bullshit
No. Look at the actual facts. They had a 2 term democratic governor and then elected a Republican one. They just elected a republican congressman...they have a split senate. They are rolling out all kinds of Maga-tard bullshit.
And the "natives" are not that sensible all the as there are a lot of old time morons here.
A lot of people fleeing CA are not progressives but conservatives tired of all the BS.
This argument has never tracked.
Not a factual statement. Supposeldy, according to OP, Montana is having a population "boom" and by your narrative would be turning more blue as all the CA's move in...and yet just the opposite has happened in MT. See
Nah. I live in Nevada. Nevada has purely coincidentally turned blue after all the Californian transplants moved here, just like every other county and state that randomly turned blue after seeing a surge of Californian transplants.
The whole homosexual "imma conservative fleeing California!!!" narrative has never held up.
Yea. I live in MT and it coincidently turned more red after all the Californain transplants moved in. So, your narrative is false in regards to MT. explain that.
>just like every other county and state
Nah.
Everyone crying about California and NY leftists ITT doesn't know what they're talking about. The vast majority of people leaving Cali and NY for places like Montana, Idaho and Wyoming are right-leaning/conservatives. Leftists very rarely move to land-locked states.
Nevada has Las Vegas.
Coastal conservatives are not the same as midwestern conservatives. You reek of entitlement and progressive values and will never be accepted
You keep posting this over and over again like it's some kind of gospel, desperately hoping that if you cling to this then it will be true.
The reality of the situation, is that Californians fleeing California, are leftists. Nobody fricking likes them. They flee like rats from a sinking ship, and when they arrive at their destination, they shit it up. Kind of like what you're doing in this thread.
That assumes he is actually conservative in the first place. Judging by how many times he's needed to repeat the same thing in this thread, I'd guess that he isn't.
>udging by how many times he's needed to repeat the same thing in this thread, I'd guess that he isn't.
yeah, you never see conservatives repeating the same things or becoming obsesive
I'm not Californian. I'm not even American.
Many counties have more people than all of Montana, and MT'ers are worried about a population boom? Like WTH?
>not everyone wants to live in a packed, diverse, shitopia.
How do PNW anons and locals feel about conservatives who move up there? I'd like montana but I feel like Idaho is more realistic. I'm white with a family, grew up in the south and currently live in the country in SC but want to move out west and up north. We can handle the cold just fine and are 100% more than happy to assimilate culturally. We lived in texas for most of the 2010s so I know how bad the leftist transplants can be.
honestly, as long as you aren't from NY or CA and are a good person with sensible (non progressive idiocy) you'll be fine.
we're still full, and wish you wouldn't move up here, BUT if you don't, some c**t from CA will move up and start voting blue and encouraging more brown people to infest the PNW.
CA refugees should not be allowed to fricking vote for 10 years after they've infested their new host.
It should be second generation and after that.
I'm sorry guys we really gotta clean house
>t. CA
If the sierras go underwater arizona becomes an estuary
we call that a twofer around here.
>t lived in phoenix(surprise) for a year or two.
>oh no, the 5 people who moved from NY to MT are ruining everything!
New Yorkers usually don't move to inland landlocked states with the exception of the occasional skigay to Colorado
#1: implement a rule similar to this: https://www.iamexpat.nl/housing/real-estate-news/all-homes-amsterdam-under-512000-euros-must-be-occupied-owners
#2: Create a tariff on real estate which adjusts depending on which states the buyers are from, and hence where they get their income from. Example, a house in Montana would have a huge markup for someone previously from Cali, but none of that markup for a native Montana citizen
#2 is a great suggestion and should be forwarded to Ron DeSantis in Florida
Who gives a frick about Florida? It's a flat, hive tier swamp. Let them move there, stay the frick out of the best states.
>Who gives a frick about Florida?
Apparently a bunch of New Yorkers do because they're overtaking the state. Last year, I was speaking to some people in another part of the south who expressed gratitude for Florida being such a large "net for catching yankees" as they put it. They had no idea that I was from NY myself lol.
Born in California, lived here in Montana as a kid (moms family's from here and been here since the 1800s). I recently moved back here to Ravalli county to live in the house my grandfather built with his own hands. I'm not going anywhere homosexuals. Also , here's a pic of a deer carcass I found on my property today. Coyotes and bald eagles been pickin at it.
>Californian
>has some autistic fascination with taking pictures of death and decay
Yup.
Huh? I actually live in the woods. Not in town. I see the cycle of life and death constantly. There's no morbid fascination, youre just an urbanite who knows nothing the way of the natural world. I was simply walkong the property enjoy the fresh air and found this poor doe and was curious what critters had been feedin on it. I got bears mountain lions, Coyotes amd foxes on my property so I like to see what I cam track when I find a fresh kill. I can tell youre not hunter or a tracker. Only an irbanite would react like you. Are you even a Montanan yourself or just some transplant homosexual with less of a claim to this land than I have. I'd love to meet you on the trail some day and perforated you with some Hardcast 10 mm. Have a nice night!
Calm your autism, Californian. I'm not reading a walk of text.
K. Kys urbanite
>walkong
californian moron more like LMAO
>Typo
You got me. It's over
>bumps thread five days later with a short, seething, shitpost reply because he's having an autism fit
Is this really the quality of the board now?
I forgot about this thread and you seem to be the one seething. I didn't know bumping threads was discouraged. Good morning btw. It's a brisk -7 where im at and I'm loving it. Thinking about going for a morning walk when the sun comes up.
I ask again. Is this really the quality of the board now? Where is your sense of personal shame?
I have nothing to be ashamed for. Have a nice day, don't spend too much time seething over the "state of the board" because someone bumped a thread.
>Not in town. I see the cycle of life and death constantly.
And yet I live in one of the biggest cities in the US, and gradually witness a rotting deer carcass on my daily commute mere miles outside downtown that's on no one's bustling agenda to dispose of
>And yet I live in one of the biggest cities in the US
L
>less of a claim to this land than I have.
no. the only claim that matter is the one holding the deed. Your ancestors mean nothing to the land.
Someone explain to me how this is even tangentially related to PrepHole?
No wait, don't. Just frick off.
>land development and population increases aren’t related to PrepHole
kys moron
You're on nu-out. Everything is PrepHole related.
LOL. I am not from Montana or California....but I did live in CA for 20 yrs, made a shitload of money, sold my house in CA and bought one in MT twice as big for half the price. You are all seething morons and I laugh at you as I sit in my cabin an plan my next Elk hunt
Based. May you be blessed with a successful hunt and a large racked woman and bull elk.
>eu gay
>visit friend living in Montana
>close to Glacier national Park
>he doesnt want to go with me
what a homosexual
The park is pretty much closed in the winter, or he doesn't wanna fight crowds/traffic or he doesn't want to deal with entry permits. Most people don't feel like dealing with tourists in the park and stick to national forest.
nah. Glacier is open. Going to the Sun road is open in the winter. A campground is open and all back country sites are open....they even have some groomed X-country ski trails
yea, you can get to agpar but going to the sun has been closed for months. the x country skiing is great, though. I live north of seeley lake so I don't bother going up to GNP for it.
>going to the sun road is open in the winter
Absolute bold face fricking lie.
Not only is it closed in winter due to avalanches (this happens every single year since the road was completed in the 30's), this year they are doing construction all along the section from Apgar to the Avalanche Creek trailhead, so the only real sections that are open is a very tiny section along St. Mary lake.
t. Lives in the Flathead Valley, and sick of dealing with tourists like you shitting up the area and not even knowing what is open, and then pitching a sissyfit because you morons are too stupid to understand what National Forests are and you all congregate in the tourist traps.
I'm going to be there in a couple weeks with my gf and you can't do anything about it.
>Absolute bold face fricking lie.
shut the frick up you moron. the lower portions of the road are typically open year round. They are closed this year due to construction.
https://www.nps.gov/glac/planyourvisit/gtsrinfo.htm
>pitching a sissyfit
I guess the irony is lost on you.
Lol, it's amazing how people think leftist are fleeing blue states, Most of those people are still in denial that their beloved ideology has taken their once great states into a nose dive.
It's actually the conservatives who are fleeing.
Democrat political strategist starting noticing since COVID through voter registrations that a lot more conservatives have been leaving blue states than liberals. While this made California more blue, There are solid indications that Texas may have gotten more red and the left is worried because a lot of people are also moving from darker blue states like New York to lighter blue states like Pennsylvanian.
Seriously, I love the crying in these types of threads, where they assume everybody in NY is a leftist extremist. That tells me right away they live up their asses as they know jack shit about the rest of the state outside of Albany, Ithaca, and NYC.
Bud, your entire state is NYC. It's some megacity shithole with leftists that are terrified of the outdoors and instinctively hate nature. They don't know anything outside of the hive, and they fear it.
Dont forget that the current Governor of MT is a carpet bagger from New Jersey
underrated post. its not just liberals from CA but people from every where of all stripes.
It's just liberals.
Nah. The carbet bagging governor from New Jersey is a republican. The carbet bagging rep in the House is from Maryalnd and a republican. The state has turned more red instead of more blue. try again.
That's what happened in Florida. Conservative New Yorkers and Cubans turned the state red and Desantis won the last election in a landslide with their help.
I'm gonna get a H1B, move there and WFH for some soulless Cali corporation, larping as impoverished first gen cowboy on social gatherings. YES, I will buy your dream farm and turn it into neglected pasture. YES, I will price you out. NO, there's nothing you can do to stop me.
I live in Oregon but am looking at Montana and northern Arizona (my home state). It’d be tough for me not to live near the beach, it’s fun going crabbing and jetty fishing.
I live in MT and the Texans that moved here (tons) are way more annoying than the Californians. They always have so many toys and gear and shit. Its like their sole enjoyment of being out is to see how loud they can get.
how do you know they aren't just Californians dressing up as texans after changing their license plates just long enough to post on instagram how much they looooooove bbq and country music?
I live in OR, and the CA transplants i see out here are usually from northern CA and definitely are all about their obnoxious mother fricking bikes/quads; their idea of enjoying nature is a lot like a rapist enjoying sex) regardless of how they vote, I really, really wish they'd get the frick out of oregon and go home where they belong. divide CA in half, i don't care. But there's too many of them and they are not . fricking. welcome.
>I live in OR
Hey me too, wanna hang out sometime? I can show you my slick n33f basement when my moms at work
>they aren't just Californians dressing up as texans
Cuz they talk like morons and still try to convince you that TX is better even after they moved here.
The Californians here just drive their suburu to the trailhead and go for a hike. The Texans camp at the trail head for a week and shit up the place
if i see one more toy hauler with CA plates i'm going to lose my shit.
>The Texans camp at the trail head for a week and shit up the place
this is so true.
>posting this thread on /cali/ of all places
also frick you jannies cleaning my poopoo up for free
he still thinks the vaccine is going to make all the people he doesn't like disappear. lmao
Yup, he's delusional
Just two more weeks bro. Then all my prepping nonsense won't be mocked anymore! You'll see!
How do you think this whole fricking country was built? The indians were BTFO and you will be too, cowgoy. Every state you're whining about started with barely any people.
far cry 5
>mfw white people complain that white people are moving into their land
>what happened to the natives is bad
agree
>what is happening to whites is bad too
also agree
problem chud?
>what is happening to whites
lol. Why so delusional?
Complaining about the consequences of our own system—a system without which we wouldn't even be here in the first place—is peak irony, that's all.
Also, the natives didn't devise that system, didn't ask for it, never benefited from it, and fought it as best they could, but still suffered consequences much worse than woke, BLM-worshipping Californian yuppies shitting up the cabin down the road.
In short, you reap what you sow, and we have no right to complain.
Weakminded post.
Competition is the law of nature nobody cares about your cuck karma theories and excuses.
Bringing up the natives is a homosexual move none of them really care and none of them can do much about it anyways, nor can we
Do you think the injuns could've retained their way of life forever? No, it's impossible even if they retained ownership of land they'd be westernised like they are now. Do you think the current generation will fight off AI and robotics taking jobs? No, it's impossible, companies are already earmarking those expenses. Human history is about everybody getting screwed and everything getting worse, even the Ancient Greeks referred to their primitive Golden Age where they didn't have to put up with the shit they had in the city
Competition sucks ass, beauty or morality is hardly a factor in competition, that's why no matter how hard we try, America is going to end up like Europe, India, or China someday. All the "wilderness areas" that currently exist in America is a very temporary blessing and you should enjoy them, just like the natives enjoyed virgin California before the whites came. Progress will never stop and progress sucks ass
>read Wendell Berry homosexuals
I have a cabin in bumfrick nowhere. 10 acres.
Over the last 5 years or so, people have been buying and dividing up the land.
I have several new neighbors now.
A lot of these are tiny Airbnbs.
I see city people all the time now, out for the weekend to "enjoy nature"
>people have been buying and dividing up the land.
...and yet you likely see "no zoning" signs every where as locals promote their own demise lol.
my condolences. vacationers are the absolute worst people to be near.
>i'm on vacation, so i'm entitled to be an obnoxious c**t
>i don't care that you live here, and have to deal with tourists every other weekend.
is arson an option?
i only have two neighbors, one house is far too close (like 100') and they're okay, good natured, slightly hillbilly - their dogs though, frick me. pomeranians have no business out here, and every day i pray that a cougar will make a snack out of it.
other house is across the road, maybe 500' from my house, never hear or see them. perfect.
(this is my primary residence though, we're like 30 miles from the nearest town. thankfully the AirBNB menace isn't likely to be an issue, nor further development out here; thank you urban growth boundary)
>their dogs though, frick me. pomeranians
try hounds. My neighbor has hounds for chasing cats but holy frick they are loud and bay for literally hours on end. We have had some chats about it and they are getting better but we both have 20acres and they sound like they are a few hundre yards away.
We have a lot of vacation rentals near me too...the good thing is that they sit empty from Oct-May...so theres that
What kind of people are they? Your neighbours and the airbnb stayers. Like those self declared "nature lover" instagram prostitutes? How do these people even get that far it boggles my mind. I've seen local beautiful places invaded like this but if you are somewhere very remote that is just mind boggling that nowhere is safe from these people
Can't confirm. I live in a very rural area and to citydwellers it's "unfathomable" and "horrific" to drive so far to such a rural area. They will go up the road to the ski resort, to go skiing specifically. But they won't come out here just to "see nature". City people don't do that.
Move to a third-world undeveloped nation because this is the future of the US.
>it's another thread where nu-out reveals itself to be full of cityposters
Interesting
>expecting an entire board to live in cabins in the middle of bumfrick nowhere
nuPrepHole is pretty annoying but oldPrepHole takes shitposts and jokes very seriously on here. A relation parallel to boomers and zoomers
>A relation parallel to boomers and zoomers
Half of zoomers are moronic city-dwellers. The other half wants to retreat from society and never see it again
I have an interview with glacier np
Should I do it or no?
Winters look brutal and the climbing looks chossy
If that's your concern then you ngmi.
I lived at 8k feet before but it wasn't -40f
Then it's not for you, fampai. That's all there is to it.
I'm in CA and all our housing is being bought by rich out of state transplants too. I personally know people from Michigan, Texas, and Delaware who moved here and immediately bought 4 million dollar houses.
How is it possible that every place in the country is being swarmed with rich buttholes at the same time? That doesn't make sense
Cashing out businesses
Selling massively inflated real estate
Selling beach house, rv and toys
New money from tech boom
Inheritance from dying boomers
Tons of reasons, but covid caused a musical chair situation everyone was sitting around wishing they were somewhere else
The truly moronic part is that they will immediately start trying to vote in policies that are intended to make things exactly like the place they left.
Urban planners are extremely shitty at building vertically properly. Cities are noisy and polluted, people get stuck in traffic and it drives them crazy, it’s basically a huge fricking mess and it drives people away from the city.
The economy is going to tank one day once people realise that they are living in a soulless place.
kek yeah they'll just wake up and realize that one day.
>picrel it's (You)
end industrial civilization
Relevant.
Glad its no longer oregon in top 10.
SAD permanently washes people out.
Just need the subduction quakes to destroy all the Portland homes not built for earthquakes.
SAD doesn't defeat all the yuppies and hipsters that move to Portland.
>We must preserve nature!
>Nooo density le bad I need to live 20 miles from downtown so I can be in "nature" and also I need a superhighway bulldozing everything in it's way so I can get to the strip mall 5 minutes earlier
The absolute state of amerimutts
Just have less people around instead of compromising on quality of life
I agree, apartments could be just as good as houses if they were well done. For me the biggest complaint is sound proofing, they usually skimp on this in cheaper apartments.
For rich people an apartment is almost identical to a house except that they might not have a private pool or a private backyard. It is possible to have a private pool and backyard but you have to be really rich, maybe they need to make that a thing at lower prices in order to convince people to live in apartments.
We wouldn't need to constantly be increasing density if we let the population drop as it rightfully should. If we stopped importing Mexicans, not only would we suddenly need to build no additional housing, the costs of existing houses would go down. I do agree with your point though that apartment buildings would be a good way to reduce environmental impact - the problem is that American culture would necessitate it being owned by a landlord, who you live at the mercy of. I shouldn't have to explain why being a pseudo-slave to a fellow Amerimutt isn't a good idea.
A developer sees this and thinks "100 apartments worth of people all who need a place to shop and eat... and tons of cheap empty space surrounding them". The rest of the island would be paved over and replaced with a walmart and fast food restaurants within a year.
As a political strategy, making large cities like NYC, Los Angeles, etc. their own state would likely work the best. As someone from one of these states who desperately wants to escape, the reason why people leave is obvious: high COL, highly restrictive laws, high urbanization, etc. This all stems from the fact that these states are effectively held hostage by one or two major cities within them, the thus the legislative decisions do not reflect the lifestyles or wishes of most people outside of a very small geographic location. By making city-states, both sides would be satisfied: people in the city would have even more ability to push through their moronic legislation on themselves, and those from rural areas would be free to pursue their actual political aims. If NYC were it's own state, New York proper would become a strong conservative state overnight. If you address this, then people would feel much less pressure to leave, since they would actively be empowered to improve their own state rather than suffer through the learned helplessness they do now - which ultimately ends in them moving to the midwest and voting in a moronic way because it's "different from home"
>California "conservatives" ITT
If you don’t want ugly shithole cities just stop being carbrained.
No thanks. Stay in your bug hive.
You can't drive anyway, so don't worry about it.
Whenever you meet these new people, be rude to them. Make openly racist statements. Pull your best shitty country yokel person act.
Then stop talking to them. Freeze them out. Make them feel like an eternal outsider. We just can't be friendly to these people anymore. Once our towns start getting a bad reputation as a place where people are super hostile and unfriendly to anyone who moves to them, it will have a dampening effect.
frickoff