>It's illegal to have chickens in your apartment and in HOAs
How long until the next big American Black Market occurs over the obscured price of eggs?
The War on Chicken.
>It's illegal to have chickens in your apartment and in HOAs
How long until the next big American Black Market occurs over the obscured price of eggs?
The War on Chicken.
>black market
Farmers markets exist.
>How long until
I am not gonna be a dick about it, but I am saying those are going to be illegal or heavily regulated in the near future because of the regulations involved in the egg industry and city politics. People are going to figure out that can just get their own eggs with chickens.
lol, I live in Los Angeles, one of the most heavily government regulated cities in probably the most heavily government regulated state in the US.
The liberals here fricking love their farmers markets, I don't see them going away anytime soon.
>The liberals here fricking love their farmers markets
Just tell them they're dangerous and they'll hate anyone who goes there.
Farmer's markets are mostly white (or at least non-black) and usually it's men selling. Point this out and leftists will boycott them
>farmers markets
I know someone who operates one round here. He purchases fruits and vegetables from wholesalers and doesn't grow shit himself. He then resells the produce at huge markups to clueless urbanite trendies who don't know any better.
Correct. Often it’s the rejects from Walmart that get sold for pennies on the dollar. They then mark it up as “natural” because of the blemishes that make it not sell to normies at the joo mart. Twice the price for rejected produce and no work on the “farmers” part. Sounds like farmers market vendors to me.
Wasn't that one milk market shutdown by heavily armed cops and fbi agents in LA because it was selling fully organic unhomogenized milk. Farmers are actually leaving CA because of the jackboot regulations.
There are truly malevolent actors in government. Particularly among democrats. But most of the problems they create are due to incompetence.
They aren't going to shut down farmers markets. Socialism regimes like North Korea actually rely on technically illegal farmers markets to feed their population because they realized that governments suck at feeding people.
What's most likely is that they will keep fricking up the supply chain on the macro level and then act like they are being benevolent by "allowing" us to shop at farmers markets.
It's kinda like how now we are all suffering from high fuel prices and they harp on about how much cheaper electric cars are to run (except in California) as if we all have the means to switch to an electric car on a whim, or if an electric car would be feasible for many families, or as if we even have enough production of EVs to actually be an option for a nationwide switch.
The U.S. does not have the electrical infrastructure to support a total switch to EV's. It would require rework of the grid as a whole from the individual residence up. Then add in the push by these knuckleheads to get rid of gas appliances.
So I chalk it up to a combination of sheer ignorance, arrogance AND malevolence one rarely encounters outside of government bureaucracies.
Take the quail pill anon
I heard they can be fragile.
too bad you have to eat like 20 eggs to feel like you even ate anything.
tf you have for digestive tract, are you a cow or something because you must have multiple stomachs
Here in Italy I'm allowed to raise any animal I want in my yard and can legally acquire guns with an easy to obtain certificate.
What freedoms do americans have that I don't exactly?
Can't stop the wop
Buying handguns. Buying rifles. Carrying a handgun. Shooting Black folk and commies with said handgun when they get up to their usual bullshit.
Don't compare rural America to urban America. Or even rural Italy to urban America. Urbanites deserve all the derision they get and shouldnt be compared to humans.
You're not allowed to shoot people
>What freedoms do americans have that I don't exactly?
I came here to post this from a similar draconian shithole. Just build a Chicken Tractor and threaten to shoot the cops that show up and attempt to fine you. Like your birds are more important than 6-year-olds shooting up schools? Tell them to frick off and let your birds roam around and eat grubs
It's perfectly legal to have chickens in your apartment, it's not the government telling you you can't, it's the landlord.
>It's perfectly legal to have chickens in your apartment
It's also a pretty miserable experience
You just need ventilation bro
Boomers:
>I need a fan and filter to hide my illegal pot growop
Zoomers:
>I need a fan and filter to hide my illegal chicken coop
My city of 550K people allows a wide variety of livestock. Suck it, coasties.
jesus frick they just make everything illegal nowadays
Im from Village so we have our chickens and eggs every day so we dont really care about the price,but yea eggs are expensive now lmao
Are there particularly quiet breeds of laying chicken ideal for stealth chicken keeping?
Lavender Orpingtons are the nicest & quietest I've heard. I have a couple & it checks out in my experience, so I recommend them.
Thats a very aesthetic chicken, but I imagine I'd be very lucky to find those here.
I wonder if Australorps would have a similar temperament.
Australorps should be good to
Are they a particularly hardy breed? Been workin on a chicken coop with my family in SD and wondering how they'd do.
Yeah, & they're supposed to be cold resistant which is a plus. They aren't really confrontational but due to their size they don't really get picked on by other breeds often. Easily my favorite.
Hey, dumb question comming through...
Do you slaughter your egg laying chickens after a certain amount of time or are these not really that good for eating?
Only slaughter them after a LONG time (8 years) unless you have some kind of efficiency operation going. Like if you dont have multiple roosters, so that you make more chicks for free, then dont slaughter them like that. You can at the end of their lives slaughter them and make chicken soup or feed them to your dogs/cats (very healthy). Hens lay fewer eggs as time goes on but yeah you dont want to slaughter them needlessly like that without a breeding or efficiency operation. If its such a big deal to have 2 fewer eggs per week then just buy an extra bird.
Thanks for the reply
Lots of old recipes for chicken are meant for hens that stopped laying. Coq Au Vin is one of the more well known ones.
We tended to keep them around even if they stopped laying as they did keep the yard free of pests, and by the time they really stop laying they are almost family.
>Lots of old recipes for chicken are meant for hens that stopped laying. Coq Au Vin is one of the more well known ones.
You're mixing it up with Poule Au Pot ; although I see no issue using an old hen for Coq Au Vin.
Older hens also are a benefit to younger chickens. They teach them how to behave, evade predators, and forage more efficiently. They even get them to be more trusting towards you IMO. Healthier for the sociability of the younger chickens. Coq au vin is for roosters, but yes “the old bird gets the soup”. Kek
Frick that shit. I live next to Mexicans who just got a fricking rooster and that thing wakes up the whole neighborhood. The neighbor called city zoning on their ass
your neighbor is a snitch and snitches should be killed.
Roosters are miserable to live around. Nearly no one likes to wake up at 430am, especially if they're not getting eggs.
my neighbours have chickens and an illegal rooster and it makes less offensive noise than any of the people that live there. Getting the birds raised the average likability of their household significantly.
Take the duck pill. Bigger eggs and quacks are cute and quite.
You know who not to trust in your neighborhood then. Snitches get stiches,
Idk man just break the rules. Free men don't ask. Also don't live in an apartment or HOA lmao.
The fricking state of America. You can smuggle endless amounts of migrants but don't you dare bring eggs or cheap gas back. Clown world.
you get what you vote for
i bet you're not even a card carrying party member lol skrub
israelites like
and his neighbors import the mexicans, and then call SWAT because the wetback wont eat the goyslop. Clown fricking world.
Frick you b***h. Who the frick wants to live next to a rooster? If your broke ass can't afford the extra $3 for a dozen eggs I'll pay for it
Keep a rooster, wake up all your neighbours at 5 am FRICK EM
Nice wiener
Brahma. Fantastic birds
Wtf is that. Is that real?
BWC
Mios dios, el diablo los pollo
I'm in the middle of indianapolis with no HOA. Actually i'm currently renting a house. Rules for indianapolis are 12 chickens and one rooster, no rules on ducks. so i've got everything but a rooster. Pretty relaxed rules.
>Get two roosters
>Tell the city that one of the roosters identifies as a hen
Checkmate liberals
everything is better than fort wayne anon. just remember that
stealing this thread but how is keeping geese compared to ducks or chickens? geese seem like a pretty good option because you get down from them aswell as eggs and meat, thinking of making a small coop some day and just looking at options.
I'd like to get a goose sometime. You need a lot of space for them to graze because their diet is primarily grass. They lay very few eggs per year but they fetch a good price if they're fertilized. Selling geese, goslings and fertilized eggs have better profit margins than chickens or ducks. Idk about selling the feathers though. dont know anyone thats been successful with it personally
>buy property
>let some moron tell you what to do with it
Why?
It's just zone stuff I guess. Or you'd have some mongoloid trying to keep a dairy cow in his apartment in town. Move PrepHole and have as many damn chickens as you want. I worked on a farm where guy previously had like over 100 just running all over the place still one area of the farm nicknamed rooster corner because there was wild ones living up there for ages
Chickens are an amazing animal to keep around. They are like a barn cat in many ways.
First off we can eat chickens and there eggs, and that's cool on its own.
Secondly if you have a proper plot of land chickens can survive by scratching with little to no supplemented feed.
This is a big one the keep pests down, tick, lady bugs, even snakes can be keep at bay by a good flock.
Lastly all the poop is a good fertilizer.
In short if you have land chickens can be a low maintenance self sustaining food and sanitation solution.
Why do you think THEY would want to keep you from them.
The poop cant be added to soil directly, it burns the soil as it breaks down. Duck poop can be added directly.
There's no harm in using treated pine posts to build a chicken run, right?
It's not like they're going to eat the wood or anything.
My experience is that chickens scratch anything and eat lots of stuff that doesn't look like food. Part of it is that they're eating grit on purpose, part of it is that they're about as smart as can of marbles.
Treated wood can contain arsenic. I'm not saying your chickens will get arsenic poisoning, but it seems like something you should consider. Maybe float the question by whoever is your local expert on poultry.
>reee PrepHole hates ""experts""
ask someone who actually knows, look up poultry associations etc, don't bother with the bureaucrats who push papers and pretend to be cowboys at the local watering hole
My guess is that results may vary with your choice of treated wood. I wouldn't use treated wood for a cutting board, but my life expectancy is 80 years. Chickens get somewhere around 1/10th of that, so maybe it doesn't matter as much.
>then again, maybe arsenic/whatever bioaccumulates in the eggs
>probably overthinking it at this point, but who knows
Since it's just for the posts I suppose it'd be easier for me to just wrap the bottom foot or so in some thin steel so they can't eat it.
A real man makes do
funny how it's legal for bilions of birds like this to be kept in a small pen where they never see sunlight and have the tips of their beaks and the edges of their wings cut off but lord forbid you want to keep some in your apartment. For a setup like this, what is the bareminimum that the chickkies need? Just a lighting and heat source with a place to roost and lay eggs?
When you look at it this way, everything they do is explainable: if it makes you independent, it’s illegal and le bad. If it supports their system, it’s tolerated and legal.
Can I use shells from the beach as a calcium/grit supplement for my chickens?
I figure I'd boil and then crush them.
I live right near the beach and it'd give the kids something productive to do.
What about cuttlebone?
Yep, shells are the exact type of grit they love.Even sand, I mean the ladies here even eat just pebbles.
I just bought a dozen pastured eggs for $3.50 fresh from a local farm. Just stop letting the grocery stores gouge you. Take the local pill.
Citygaya and their suburban bug comrades are something else
>Chickens? Um yikes sweety that has no place here, they poop which can smell and cause climate change and roosters are hekin loud!
>Dogs? Yass queen have as many as you want and let them bark all day and night and shit the sidewalk and maul people and let's build a $2 million dog park park for them!
Any other turkey egg Chads here?
AMA about turkey eggs and their superiority to chicken eggs.
I ate them and can attest they are far superior to chicken eggs.
And they’re like eating a damn dinosaur egg they’re so fricking big!
How many chicken eggs is one turkey egg? 3?
How often do yours lay? I imagine you'd need a few turkeys to have an egg daily yeah?
Are they real fricking bastard animals?? I met a turkey once and he was a real piece of shit. Not that that's a bad thing.
Are they as vulnerable to foxes / coyotes as chickens? They're bigger and they're bastards so I wonder if the predators would think twice.
Been thinking about keeping some of my own at some point.
>How many chicken eggs is one turkey egg? 3?
Yeah
>How often do yours lay? I imagine you'd need a few turkeys to have an egg daily yeah?
a turkey hen will lay about three eggs a week under good conditions
>Are they real fricking bastard animals?? I met a turkey once and he was a real piece of shit. Not that that's a bad thing.
My girls are cute and funny. My tom is a bit of an butthole to strangers though. He also humps the girls so much he lost all the feathers on his chest in the middle of winter.
>Are they as vulnerable to foxes / coyotes as chickens?
Much less so. They are still critically vulnerable at night though. I keep a light on for mine.
Some of the girls
When they say chickens need so many hours of sunlight a day, does that have to be direct sun like it would be for a plant?
I want to keep mine in a shady spot with some trees, but it doesn't get much direct sun, it's bright and well lit, but it's just not direct.
Am I being autistic and it's basically just that they need knowledge it's daytime?
I know they technically don't photosynthesise, but do they kind of?
Im not sure if its like a viramin D thing like it is for people or if its a circadian rythem thing. The first one would mean theyve actually got to go out in the sun, but the latter would mean they just need a few windows.
I once looked at the initial investment required to get 4 or so birds for a dozen eggs every couple days. At the end, I realized it'd take 4 years to see any ROI, and that's assuming none die or I don't frick something up. Right now egg prices suck, but they aren't high enough to justify raising my own birds.
>it'd take 4 years to see any ROI
lolwut?, is the fricking coop gilded with vaulted ceilings?
just get more birds, sell the extra to neighbors
live chickens are like $30 now though
>HOAs
They’re a joke. I’ll roll strangler fig seeds in balls of clay and throw them onto roofs and into gutters before I let the HOA tell me what I can and can’t do
Blew my mind to hear that Americans aren't allowed to keep animals in their own property.
Always lived in the city, grandma owned 15+ goats, ducks, and chickens.
Moved, now we own 6 chickens +2 roosters, wanna get some ducks too soon. Neighbors own a few Dwarf Goats
I thought Americans were free? All these "local laws", "ordinances", "HOA rules" just seem like horseshit
Hello europeasant, "America " is a big place with many different local governments with various rules. chickens are fine almost everywhere. Outlawing camping and defending your daughter from being raped sound like horseshit to me but such is life in enlightened Europe.
>Want chickens
>Have wanted chickens for years
>Mom won't let me have chickens
>Now egg shortages are on the rise, and people are buying up all the chickens
Is your name Ed by chance?
Bros I love my chookies so much
But they don't eat vegetable scraps.
Is there a way to encourage this?
Would dicing/grating the scraps help them eventually pick at larger pieces?
They're only 9 weeks old, is this something they pick up as they get older?
That would help, I started mine on veggies that way. Also, I had some luck with giving them large chunks of boiled harder vegetables like carrots to make them easier to peck apart when they were young a couple times to get them used to tearing apart larger chunks. They really didn't go after the larger stuff until they were a few months old but yours might be different.