It's here. Based Britons did the needful and compiled a drone tutorial. There are several conclusions to be drawn once you edit down the unnecessarily loquacious Oxford English into a terser form:
The Ukraine war requires a 2 month update cycle.
User skill and correct organization boosts effectiveness 7x.
Drones DO NOT scale unless goldplated.
https://static.rusi.org/mass-precision-strike-final.pdf
There are 4 main drone roles: cheap cruise missile, cheap ATGM, platoon quadcopter spotter, and fixedwing 80-90km range spotter.
Reports from the field: EW fricks drones constantly, Ukrainian drone teams have to stay 500m apart to avoid jamming each other, 4 out of 5 FPVs miss, and 1 out of 2 hits on a vehicle is actually a kill.
The authors want NATO to unfrick its regulations classifying drones as planes so we can actually experiment and update. They call out the problem of tards believing in a drone meta, but they also seem unaware of the capabilities of a basic Jetson.
My takeaway: this report is actually optimistic for the old MIC. Buy a lot of Switchblade 600s and VBATs. 99% of the problem solved no thinking or new tactics required.
>My takeaway: this report is actually optimistic for the old MIC. Buy a lot of Switchblade 600s and VBATs. 99% of the problem solved no thinking or new tactics required.
And how do we uncuck America?
>but they also seem unaware of the capabilities of a basic Jetson.
We're not that far from the "cheap atgm" and "cheap cruise missile" drones able to act completely autonomously because of systems like Jetson. That's Nvidia tech and is regulated but you bet your ass China is going to do their best to rip it off and copy it. And they probably aren't all the far behind.
ca I get a quick rundown on Jetson?
Nvidia made the Nvidia Shield, then decided to make a "developer board" out of the scraps for vague DIY drone/robotics purposes. Russians bought a pile of them for drone use in the last year. Basic computer vision on 2017 mobile hardware is probably more than enough to keep a drone flown into an EW-disrupted area on track to hit some kind of target.
>Ukrainian drone teams have to stay 500m apart to avoid jamming each other
dude what? you do realize that you can fly with your buddies close by just fine?
>EW
just stop with this fricking meme
>dude what? you do realize that you can fly with your buddies close by just fine?
Not at max range and nap-of-the-earth where the conditions erode the signal just by itself.
why not?
The frequencies the drones use are line-of-sight, so the lower and further away you go, the more stuff there is between the drone and the pilot, causing noise and also weakening the signal's strength due to distance. Go low enough at long range and you lose line of sight completely. Noise-to-signal ratio needs to be below a certain threshold for the video feed to actually be watchable and usable. Otherwise it's just static.
On top of this organic problem, someone transmitting at the same frequency you're using is essentially (unintentional) jamming. It adds extra interference to the signal, worsening the signal-to-interference-plus-noise ratio, ultimately meaning that less and less useful information can be carried over that frequency and more and more of it is lost on the way. Again, for a drone of the sort we see in this war, you're going to see that as static and interference over the footage.
With someone using another drone right next to you, you're going to lose a good chunk of your max range and have interference constantly in the footage. The further your drone goes, the harder it will be for you to recognize its signal over the one your buddy and his drone are blasting, making the situation worse.
but it won't
the video signals originate at the drones, making it irrelevant in what relation the receivers are
and the control links use frequency hopping so they don't transmit at the same frequency at the same time. if you disable the telemetry backchannel and make the control links unidirectional, there's no chance they will influence each other
>and the control links use frequency hopping
They do? For 300 dollar suicide drones?
Many or most of them use ExpressLRS for the control link, so yes.
Is there any source for that claim?
>Moreover, because of their short range – made
even shorter in cold temperatures – and the problems associated with spectrum
crowding in cheap FPVs due to simple, low-quality radios, it is difficult to
concentrate FPVs. Ukrainian FPV teams often need to disperse 500 m apart to
avoid spectrum interference.53
>53. Author interviews with deputy brigade commander and command staff, Orikhiv operating area, Ukraine,
February 2024.
https://t.me/FPV_vyZOV/892
>Let us remind you that from the very beginning (since the summer of 2023) we have been committed to ERLS.
https://t.me/serhii_flash/1782
>Another ELRS 2.4 GHz module from a captured Russian FPV drone.
https://t.me/FPV_vyZOV/1313
>Frequencies in FPV drones (most common)
>720-1050 MHz (ELRS)
https://t.me/Soldieroffortune777/41485
>ABOUT FPV DRONES!
>In the first photo, the drone, roughly speaking, assembled from 3-4 crashed drones, operates on an ELRS receiver.
https://t.me/serhii_flash/2372
>Dear colleagues, we need information about those who are ready to serially do:
>1. Radio interface for FPV instead of ELRS with its own protocol, encryption and frequencies other than 700-1000MHz
https://www.expresslrs.org/faq/#is-my-binding-phrase-a-secret
>Specifically, the binding phrase is hashed and used to seed the random number generator that determines the frequency hopping pattern. Thus, each binding phrase results in a unique hopping pattern, minimizing the likelihood of collisions with other users.
Note that I'm not
, so I can't speak to your quote or the rest of his post; I just wanted to confirm that frequency hopping is commonplace, even on the cheapest drones.
even shitty Frsky from 10 years ago did it
yeah, you can get ELRS on the usual 2.4GHz band and then around 900MHz
1/10 cheap drones killing enemies with minimal risk let alone billion dollar tanks sounds like a good deal
>4 out of 5 FPVs miss, and 1 out of 2 hits on a vehicle is actually a kill.
Those are fantastic stats. Now we know that Russia hasn't got a chance. We can kill men and vehicles for less than 1000 bucks a pop
fpv drones cost about $500, so to achieve vehicle kill you need around 10 FPV drones or 5000 bucks a pop
>https://static.rusi.org/mass-precision-strike-final.pdf
Actually not a bad read. Could have used with a few bullets and subheads but it's quite logical and readable.
In on a likely warriortard thread. What of self humiliation abominations will he force us to watch this time?
>willingly join thread
>say warriortard forces you to watch
You might be a cuck
Deciphered.
Holy shit
now the ass is seen
Nice.
>GERASIMOV!, SHOIGU! WHERE ARE MY GOOD QUALITY ASS THAT I ORDERED!
Five Brown Eyes.
Cheers, exactly what I was expecting in this thread.
Would this have helped with the British planned and failed operations at Krynki and the Tendra Split?