i don't care if they make gains or if you Black folk call me a pajeet, they should not be losing equipment in such moronic manners.
why isn't that bradley in that patch of woods scouting with the optics? why are the two leopards there and not a kilometer back sniping with their fricking space age guns?
if they are visible by ziggers they can be VOGged or korneted. and considering there's a fricking engineering vehicle destroyed in that pile of broken dreams, i'd say they tried to recover them once
I'ma be 400% real with you, those leos look shopped as frick.
>fuzzy ass pixels >no crater or ground discoloration on the one to the right >no visible damage on the one to the right >is "main prize" but drone operator decided to get close to mine clearers? Curious. >No fire or smoke coming out on either leopard. Seeing how the mine plows are on fire, shouldn't the leos be on fire to?
I wouldn't start with the photoshop shit anon, they deliberately release these things in stages in part to make you look silly. Good chance they hit mines, were mobility killed, came under indirect fire and the crews decided to leave.
This is still from the same attack from 4 days ago, isn't it?
Looks new to me.
11 months ago
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Russia can’t hit these with artillery. The second the shoot a salvo they have an m30a1 in route to their position. It’s why Russia is losing so much ground
11 months ago
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You can clearly see shitton of impacts all around over the fresh grass. Russians either saturated whole field with tube artillery or launched two or three Grad salvos there.
11 months ago
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Why weren’t they able to hit any of the vehicles
11 months ago
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are you blind or dumb? do you think there are normally fires emanating from the side of a tank?
11 months ago
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unfortunately i dont think the Ukies have counter battery figured out. if they did this war would've been over yesterday.
11 months ago
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Probably training quality and equipment differences between units. Surely they can't all suck at counter battery.
It's a zoomed in video from not the best camera to begin with. it gives that effect.
Funny how Russian video quality immediately drops when they need to show us another destroyed Leopard/Himars/TB-2/Su-24.
They are lying not just to us but to each other and running a scam to get those bounties.
11 months ago
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>Funny how Russian video quality immediately drops when they need to show us another destroyed Leopard/Himars/TB-2/Su-24. >They are lying not just to us but to each other and running a scam to get those bounties.
Russians never had very good video quality to begin with. We got spoiled by Ukrainian commercial chinese UAV's with their cinematic quality cameras. These fuzzy zoomed in videos are still a huge step above the typical military camera which is blurry black and white shit.
Westerner here of of Anglo-Saxia Oblast. Haha yes this is with on totally AI/shop generated picture. All here in Westernland know Westerner tanks are invulnerable nazi tech that cannot be destroyed or lost in any way and we expect no losses in offensive against prepared defenses.
And if it can truly be destroyed or lost we will all be desperately demoralized and be coping by calling AI generated pictures and cry and cancel support to ukraine. Strong agree.
11 months ago
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they actually had a sky news report on how webm is fake because fire is square shaped or w/e
11 months ago
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I’m I seeing things or is the Leopard in the left the one in your webm
11 months ago
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Yes Joe Biden said offensive failed on state of union adress and sent his wife to putin also.
11 months ago
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11 months ago
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Wow there is people on picture that proves what you said.
11 months ago
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replied to myself
https://streamable.com/xepkyi
explain this
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11 months ago
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The "expert" analyzing the video must have never heard about video codecs.
these two images dont look too bad, some knocked out equipment but the plow trails going past them and lack of bodies/other vehicles makes me think that its the wreckage left on the field after a successful assault that took losses. the right leo looks relatively undamaged, possibly a mobility kill. left leo may have burned though?
https://i.imgur.com/Ft8gVSg.jpg
if they are visible by ziggers they can be VOGged or korneted. and considering there's a fricking engineering vehicle destroyed in that pile of broken dreams, i'd say they tried to recover them once
this picture is much more concerning. what the frick is going on here? why are there 3 demining vehicles on top of eachother? why are they plowing a zigzag snake path instead of a straight fricking line? whats the deal with the path on the right? it doesn't look like a plow track considering the green grass between the tread marks, does it stop at taht burned out vehicles or is this picture conveniently cropping out that it continues on past the obstacle?
>this picture is much more concerning. what the frick is going on here?
I'd guess the left track that's been beaten down was the main path of advance and after a couple vehicles got knocked out by missiles or something the rest turned around. The right track seems to be fresh from a vehicle that doesn't have a center plow, and nothing following it. Some mine plows do that. >zig zag
Trying to avoid incoming arty? Missiles?
11 months ago
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>zigzag
Most likely to cover the most area?
11 months ago
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>Trying to avoid incoming arty? Missiles?
i hope not, id hope someone trained to drive/commabd one of ukraine's very few very precious western armored vehicles wouldnt be moronic enough to unironically serpentine a fricking tank
11 months ago
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>Trying to avoid incoming arty? Missiles?
Sounds like they were disabled by drone corrected arty and abandoooned.
11 months ago
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armor platoon level or individual tank level CIWS when raytheon
Probably won't happen till the Minefields get cleared/passed. Best you'll get is most likely a ATGM nest getting blown to shit every once in a while.
Russia can’t hit these with artillery. The second the shoot a salvo they have an m30a1 in route to their position. It’s why Russia is losing so much ground
>this picture is much more concerning. what the frick is going on here?
Are you guys really so utterly blind as not to see 102 fresh shell craters on a single image?
11 months ago
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Are you so blind as to see that the armored vehicles haven’t been hit with artillery
11 months ago
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do you know what shrapnel is?
11 months ago
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Yes and leopards are completely protected from artillery splinters
11 months ago
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>haven't been hit
Sometimes I forget that this place is full of tourists who aren't autistic enough to research this shit. Tanks are designed to take HE IDF fire in their vicinity, generally up to a very close distance, without being penetrated by shrapnel. That does not mean that their tracks are immune from damage, or that any other external part of the tank can't take damage.
Like frick just go google this shit.
11 months ago
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Never said they weren’t immobilized. I was remarking on how it’s funny the Russians don’t seem to be able to kill them with artillery
11 months ago
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How accurate do you think unguided artillery is, anon?
11 months ago
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if the artillery is within 10 kms and corrected by dji drones, it could probably be accurate enough, even if its VatBlack person artillery
>they lost both 2 leo 6 with guns and 2 mine plow variants.
And you lost 2 cities
Now again, how many mobiks were lost to capture a single toilet in Bakhmut?
>such moronic manner
Remember the pontoon bridge where Russia lost like 100 armored vehicles because they kept setting up pontoon bridges in the same spot over and over again after they kept getting shelled?
Yeah and it wasn’t nearly as bad as trying the same fricking thing over and over despite getting shelled each time. That’s not even tactical logic, it’s just basic logic.
>Yeah and it wasn’t nearly as bad as trying the same fricking thing over and over despite getting shelled each time.
So, you don't remember Chornobaivka.
>I dont care if the allies are marching to berlin, they should not lose shermans in such a moronic manner >i dont care if a successful offensive is occurring, machines designed for breaking otherwise inpenetrable defensive lines should not be lost while using them as intended
now do you see the error of your ways?
Dude. Ukrainians are wasting equipment and being obliterated by russians while they can barely manage to take only few russian towns. It is obvious that ukrainian oligarchs are stealing from the people and corrupting the country xddddddddd.
NTA but that's not how you usually do fortifications. First line is really mostly about delaying them and funnelling them into areas more favourable to you and that you've already ranged. Also to give you some room to manoeuvrer so the enemy can't just stack all their forces up into one spot and crush your line there then encircle you without you being able to push reserves in. Basic shit really.
>talks about ukrainian oligarchs supposedly stealing money and being corrupt >meanwhile complete blindness of situation in pigshit Russia where it is 10 times worse
Maybe next time put more "d" when you pretend to laugh to make you more convincing (it won't) you insufferable vatnig
Yeah, you can see how greatly they are doing by leaving like cowards their tanks destroyed. I mean, if you guys really consider this a victory, I don't want to see the complete state of the AFU xd.
The difference is Russian oligarchs steal from Russians.
Ukranian oligarchs steal from the taxpayers of every Western nation.
I don't know who has the morale high ground in this war, but for reason of pure self interest, I hope Ukraine is wiped off the map.
No bodies again, going by the bradley footage Ukrainians are doing a good job at getting everyone out alive at least. Sucks to lose vehicles but that's the reality of an offensive.
Hard to say obviously but they look recoverable.
If the Russians get a chance they'll drop drones or artillery on them most likely. But in many ways the crews matter more since they can always get more tanks sent over.
And will happily make more if someone gives them money.
To be fair, unlike with the first one where it was super obvious literally nobody was in the vehicle (no blood, clear view into the cabin) this could easily have lead to deaths. The MRAP in particular may have gotten hit by a shaped charge or something with the driver splattered over half the cabin and we wouldn't know from this angle and image quality.
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What the frick are you talking about? The US is sending 31 Abrams, there are an ungodly number of Abrams hulls floating around.
>To be fair, unlike with the first one where it was super obvious literally nobody was in the vehicle (no blood, clear view into the cabin) this could easily have lead to deaths. The MRAP in particular may have gotten hit by a shaped charge or something with the driver splattered over half the cabin and we wouldn't know from this angle and image quality.
True. The flaming AFV on the bottom right doesn't look too promising but the MRAP is literally designed to take those sorts of hits. It's almost the ideal vehicle for this situation.
>1)Restarting production is not trivial.
From completely cold yeh. Germany can still produce small numbers of Leos so ramping it up shouldn't be quite as hard.
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Germany currently has a massive problem getting enough qualified workers for specialized industry and no political will to do anything about it.
To be fair, unlike with the first one where it was super obvious literally nobody was in the vehicle (no blood, clear view into the cabin) this could easily have lead to deaths. The MRAP in particular may have gotten hit by a shaped charge or something with the driver splattered over half the cabin and we wouldn't know from this angle and image quality.
European arms industry isn't in the best shape and europeans armies really don't have that much spare equipment to share. On this matter, the US aren't doing a lot either. So it's not only about the loss of human lives which will soon come as well.
It doesn't look like you know as much as you want others to believe... Or maybe you're just moronic
What the frick are you talking about? The US is sending 31 Abrams, there are an ungodly number of Abrams hulls floating around.
i expect them to keep at range and destroy mobiks with their unknown technology blyat fire control systems, not fricking charge towards the frontlines like they're tom hanks in last samurai.
For some reason I feel like Tom Hanks would've been a reluctant, socially-inept genius general who finally found a sense of community amongst the samurai and won the last battle handily to defend his new home.
i don't care if they make gains or if you Black folk call me a pajeet, they should not be losing equipment in such moronic manners.
why isn't that bradley in that patch of woods scouting with the optics? why are the two leopards there and not a kilometer back sniping with their fricking space age guns?
https://i.imgur.com/cB6Mrfd.jpg
are you fricking moronic? they lost both 2 leo 6 with guns and 2 mine plow variants. fricking embarassing.
>The counteroffensive was already a failure >They'll never be able to break through the first line of defense >It was just 1 village >It was just 2 villages >It was just 4 villages
-----YOU ARE HERE----- >It was just Melitopol >We never needed Crimea >Donbas was never really Russian anyway >We don't need St. Petersburg >Moscow was just a goodwill gesture >The Ukrainians will never take Vladivostok >Rome was just a feint >Washington DC will never fall to Ukraine >Ukraine can't possibly beat the United Coalition of East Asia >We never really wanted Mars anyway >Alpha Centauri was just a retreat to a more favorable position >Ukraine will never control the Andromeda Galaxy
>The Drol Imperium never had any expansionist ambitions to take over the Local Group anyway >The Virgo Federation wanted Ukraine to take over the galactic cluster and annex their interstellar civilizations all along >The Zer'u Progenitors were never that strong and all their weapons are eons out of date >The coalition of Dark Matter civilizations never cared about baryonic civilizations like Ukraine anyway >The First Ones always intended for Ukraine to overthrow them and take over the universe they created >The Dimensional Wardens won't let Ukraine breach the barriers separating our universe form the broader multiverse >The Elder Gods don't even exist so how could they lose to Ukraine?
Implying villages are the gains here is what is so telling about the Russian side. Breaching defense lines swiftly gets turned into "wow villages" but then turns back into maps of those same defense lines when they want to show what Ukraine still has to contend with.
>Treated Bahkmut like it was bigger than Stalingrad. >Ukies take more ground than mighty Puccia has in a year. >D-didn' matter! Trust Z plan!
Good morning, Sirs.
notice how vatBlack folk will do shit like this and completely memoryhole bahkmut, still treating that as the pinnacle of tactical genius, even though their rate of advance was 10x slower than this
Those were old shitty Soviet tanks or tanks stolen from Russia. We expect the Bradleys and Leos to do better. Plus they cost a lot of money to make so we at least hope they get blown up in some huge cool battle where they kill like 100 Russians. Not get bogged down in some field and abandoned.
Are you fricking moronic? "we"? Lots of money? you are being too obvious pooBlack person, notice the lack of bodies after mobility kill, "we" (not you) can make as many of them as we want, we are rich (you are not) so long the crews survive, which western vehicles are amazingly showing to the world, they can keep fighting.
Now frick off with the falseflagging
European arms industry isn't in the best shape and europeans armies really don't have that much spare equipment to share. On this matter, the US aren't doing a lot either. So it's not only about the loss of human lives which will soon come as well.
It doesn't look like you know as much as you want others to believe... Or maybe you're just moronic
Listen here third worlder, you answered your own question, this happened with surpluss equipment, and you want us to start to produce and send shit? I fricking hope you fricking moron kek
I know the UK long since shut down its Chally II production lines and mothballed the majority of the tanks and a fair few other European countries are in similar spots but mothballed equipment can be reactivated when mothballs isn't slavic monkey tier 'leave it uncovered in a field to rust' stupidity. The USA on the other hand was smart enough not to run its industry down so there's no issue there.
What is important is trained crews and more widely manpower and the lack of bodies and some Ukrainian Bradley footage we've seen indicates those are surviving just fine. Also frankly if this makes Europe restart actual industry I'm all for it.
first off, you're a 3rd world shitskin and not american.
secondly, even in the battle of kursk, the majority of the tanks were defeated penetrating defensive lines, not simply getting into a 1v1 with russki tanks.
Garage queens that never had to be used thanks to the US nuclear umbrella. If they wanted fewer armor losses they should have gotten more deep strike munitions.
The Leos break as revenge for Ukies constantly asking Germany for stuff when we don't have shit that runs ourselves. Please we just want to do industry, take some garbage and leave us alone. We already gave you Gepards and all the ammo we have.
So what happened here? I see four demining vehicles knocked out at the front of their trails, some random crap behind them, and then some Leos and Bradleys back at the tree line. An advance get hit with ATGM spam and the rest turned out and withdrew?
Don't think so yet but Oryx just added them to the list. 3 of them aren't Leopard 2A6s, but Leopard 2R mine clearing tanks. So from Finland.
Russia can’t hit these with artillery. The second the shoot a salvo they have an m30a1 in route to their position. It’s why Russia is losing so much ground
That's not really how that works anon, by all accounts HIMARS/M270 are basically front level assets that are moved around under secrecy. And like, come on, you can see the fresh mortar/HE impacts all over the place.
I'm just mad the ukies haven't released any leopard guncam footage yet
I NEED to see high-res FLIR videos of soviet tanks getting cracked open like a can of tuna
anon at this rate i don't think there's going to be any. it genuinely feels like they're using leos to bait the most well equipped ziggers into concentrating on specific zones. of the line.
Very plausible when I think about it. throw the leos into a mined area, but far enough away from threats to where it can be recovered somewhat easily. Meanwhile 50km easy the actual attacks break through the lesser unmined areas.
We shouldn't have given them any equipment and tax money. Guys, write to your congressmen, to your representatives, we should stop sponsoring this unjust war and this stupid slaughter.
Recoverable is fine for the long term but a bunch of mobility kills means they're out of action in the moment. These photos have a bunch of mine clearers stopped at the end of their plowed roads, so whatever they were doing didn't continue in that direction.
The pattern you generally see, and we've seen this from Ukrainian footage also, is a mobility killed vehicle will look in decent shape just maybe with its tracks thrown/wheels stuck and its hatches/ramps open as the crew scrambled to escape. Then a drone will fly over separately to that initial context to record the abandoned vehicle for propaganda purposes before they are destroyed with something else. Possibly they will record the destruction too with footage cut to try and obscure the fact it was abandoned because the average member of the public thinks that's less impressive/not a 'real' kill.
The footage of Ukrainian drones dropping simple hand grenades through the hatches of abandoned tanks would be an example of this. That's actually a pretty cheap and sensible way to deal with them if your drone operators have that level of accuracy. Russians look to be spamming a ton of artillery at them instead, wiring up full on RPG warheads to suicide drones or even using AGTMs (possible helicopter-launched) which is obviously more costly than being able to reuse the same drone over and over and risks exposing better assets too.
It's been a long time since we've seen serious mechanised or armoured warfare outside of stomping arabs in desert shitholes but mobility kills are a huge thing even moreso in shitty muddy European terrain. Ignoring all the many other reasons German logistics in WW2 were a shitfest they build tanks that were in theory invincible from the front to AT weapons but got stuck or broke down and abandoned in huge numbers anyway.
>why yes I do close my hatches as I'm abandoning vehicle, attempting to save my life
I can't see shit in the 2 pixel picture you provided, but when you get tracked by a mine, you aren't in any immediate danger and would have the time to close the hatch. You get out of the vehicle simply because it can't move.
I am 100% positive you can see 2 massive black holes reminiscent of your mother's holes on top of that leo 2, so if you stop being a b***h you might accept the fact that they left it open for a FPV drone to fly in.
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cope, Black person. No amount of grainy pictures or wishful thinking could bring your maginot line back
Oryx counted some of these as new but people posted pictures of them from 9th, some of the tanks and bradleys are old. dont know about engineering vehicles
Oryx added two Leopard 2A6, 2 Bradleys, 3 Leopard 2Rs and 1 Wisent 1 to the list, someone replied with a photo of a Bradley from the 9th that looked like it was the same vehicle from a different angle, and presumably he took it down to confirm numbers and not spread disinfo.
Ok, how many Abrams are they sending?... And when?
> Verification not required
How's lefty/misc/ anyway? It looks like a shitty place. Do you guys really go back there and gossip about how you rekt the chuds or whatever?
Most are listed as damaged and abandoned and there was a video showing a recovered Leopard so there's a good chance most of those abandoned vehicles were recovered.
I also wonder where is the rest of Western stuff, so far it's only been Bradleys and Leos
The best part is that for every dead leopard and bradley there are two more that werent video taped lol. They already lost 80% of their nato provided force and are yet to reach the first line of defense
Its almost like crossing a minefield under artillery and antitank fire is really really fricking difficult. Once one of these pushes gets through the much vaunted defense in depth and opens up that sweet backside is going to be TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO all over again, we can just keep feeding em brads lol
No idea why they are still attacking in that direction with these results unless it's really a feint.
Russians seem to have the strongest defenses and best units there, probably because it's one of their logistics hubs really close behind. They are also losing their best tanks/IFVs there instead of say, L2A4s. I am not even sure whether there are differences in survival rates for crew behind A4 and A6, and it's unlikely the crews of A6 will see another Leopard soon given their limited supply, effectively meaning they can't carry over their experience.
Like just send some turret throwers there if you must.
Nice job anon. Anyone got any idea why the vehicle on the right was alone but on the left we see 2-3 mine clearing vehicles and some APCs to follow it?
Obviously some tanks did do that. The two tanks directly in front of that circle are clearly positions to provide cover in two directions from the rear judging by where their turrets are pointing. There were likely others that hung back but they will have gotten away unscathed.
I know the Russians and their shills tried to pretend that western equipment was somehow invincible and shit, but the reality is that even western nations would be losing stuff attacking DEFENSIVE POSITIONS. Yes, even the US lost stuff in Iraq (both times) with air superiority. Shit happens. You miss something. An A10 gets hungry and marks your tank as an enemy and you get yeeted by a friendly. Shit happens.
Why people are surprised a nation attacking is losing stuff will forever boggle me. This is going to keep happening.
i am not disappointed at losses, i am disappointed at them doing suicide charges when they could comfortably turn ziggers into paste from kilometers away BEFORE CROSSING THE MINEFIELD
I don't really remember USA losing that many pieces especially given many more were fielded. Still it was all due to also having overwhelming artillery and air superiority.
the point is that even with months o f systematic bombing et al, stuff was still lost. a lot? maybe not. but stuff was still lost. granted mostly due to friendly fire (for example gulf war, 3 bradley's were lost to enemy fire, 17 to friendly) but people are pretending like this shouldn't be happening.
i am not disappointed at losses, i am disappointed at them doing suicide charges when they could comfortably turn ziggers into paste from kilometers away BEFORE CROSSING THE MINEFIELD
you don't have infinite views to do that, sometimes there is a hill or a tree line in the way and you have to move forward. real life isn't an rts.
>the point is that even with months o f systematic bombing et al, stuff was still lost. a lot?
I don't think you're making a good case there. There is losing 3 Bradleys out of hundreds (thousands?) by enemy fire that would happen only once in a while to the point it could be called a freak incident, and suffering high losses without fulfilling any objectives.
Good Morning Sis, and welcome to war, especially on the offensive you're going to lose shit, becuase the enemy gets a say and not everythign will go your way.
Hopefully they've learned their lesson and the brigade can be deployed somewhere else. It looks like they wanted a thunder run to Tokmak and it failed.
They're from the Orkhiv area. It seems like they've laid off the attacks in and around there since June 9th or so and the Russians have used the opportunity to film the carnage in the gray zone.
>Why aren't we seeing Soviet-era tanks used by Ukraine anymore
who is this "we"? /r/combatfootage? because I've seen like 10 or so destroyed/damaged on camera in the past 8 days of the counteroffensyiv.
look, I even bothered enough and collected screencaps of exactly 10 tanks from the current ongoing events for your brown eyes to see. and there's more, too.
I'm sorry should I have used globohomosexual approved name for this?
>show two tanks >doesn't even look like they're hit >don't even stand next to them to show that they gottem
Why are russian proofs so bad while we get 4k hd kino from ukis.
>show two tanks >doesn't even look like they're hit >don't even stand next to them to show that they gottem
Why are russian proofs so bad while we get 4k hd kino from ukis.
>exploding secondaries in a kindergarten >thinking children would stay around when russians are around >not realizing the superiority of western satellites and optics in surveying moronic pidors on the battlefield
Russia got its shit pushed in 3 times already Rajesh with 1/20 of afghanistan spending. Is it so hard to believe its happening a 4th time?
This makes me think Ukraine's doing OK at least with this counteroffensive on the whole. They had this one fricked up advance that got wasted and so far it's all Russia has been able to show.
The first two look the same. Not sure the third one is because the trees don't look the same square shape but geolocation autists will no doubt confirm it for us soon.
This makes it even clearer. Hull down at the red circle would be mutch better position than the one those tanks are at.
it looks like between whenever the video was taken and the pictures were taken the third engineering vehicle showed up + something plowed that second track on the right.
I think this shot from near the end is the last pile up of vehicles we saw. So this new stuff is from further down the same path either from the same attack or from a second or third one trying the same route.
>still the same area again >just new angles
Holy frick. Post something new already. Surely there has to be something else.
Comparing the video to the pictures we can see that more vehicles showed up. It isn't one failed assault we're seeing, it's an ongoing attempt at breaching some defensive line.
I got access recently to fresh classified NATO files that support that these offensives are going to work in the long run, the kidnappings and assassinations by Ukrainian soldiers is what’s holding them back the most
I see pictures of destroyed western tanks and it makes me feel sad. Next morning when I wake up, I see the blue on that map growing ever larger and it makes me stop feeling sad
Just remember for every dead leo there's hundreds of dead mobiks and tens of kilometers liberated
Failed pontoon crossing at Vuhledar with many russians dead and vehicles lost
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>Vuhledar
wrong area, this was the seversky donets river crossing attempt (copelord saw this as acceptable casualties btw). youre fogiven for getting it mixed up though, there have been alot of these frick ups.
What are the odds that Russia is running drone missions behind the line of contact to take pictures of as many disabled or even parked Ukrainian vehicles in order to desperately create the impression that they are handily defeating the entire offensive?
>where's the dead leopards
in a different location, used by a different motorized brigade.
Serious question, how many /k/ posters are going to kill themselves if Ukraine loses this war? And is that something the mods should take into account when choosing the level of inflammatory discourse they tolerate on this board?
0, they'll just cope with whatever will be the latest ukrainian graph featuring 6 million russians KIA
Serious question, how many /k/ posters are going to kill themselves if Ukraine loses this war? And is that something the mods should take into account when choosing the level of inflammatory discourse they tolerate on this board?
Russia stands to be royally fricked for decades in the wake of this conflict no matter who fires the last shot. Both politically and militarily. The cope that "what if russia wins" in itself is a staggering loss of position when most people thought Russia would steamroll this 3rd world shithole in a couple weeks.
Going by the current estimates on russian losses, you're gonna have to get about 75% of the non credible defense subreddit to an hero if you want to give russia a positive kill/loss ratio. Better up your game.
The level of weapons grade /k/opium and ignorance of operational art on this thread made my fricking week. Hull down positions? Easily recoverable despite a recovery vehicle in an flaming heap in frame. LOL. Pure comedy gold.
You NAFO clowns are just now finding out that Western equipment really isn't any better that the Russian stuff you scoffed at for years. First time it's actually involved in real combat against a real enemy that's not some hapless Third World shithole with surplus WWII equipment, it gets wrecked. Not a good day for NAFO sisters.
>T-90 gets ATGM'd >turret joins the space program >crew is given free cremation >Leopard gets ATGM'd, artied and droned >throws a track >crew gets a hot meal after making it back
Exactly the same.
Good morning sir, please do the needful
i don't care if they make gains or if you Black folk call me a pajeet, they should not be losing equipment in such moronic manners.
why isn't that bradley in that patch of woods scouting with the optics? why are the two leopards there and not a kilometer back sniping with their fricking space age guns?
Because they're badly shooped
That's the mine plow variant, it has no main gun.
are you fricking moronic? they lost both 2 leo 6 with guns and 2 mine plow variants. fricking embarassing.
Shit happens, can't go on the offensive without making contact
>lost both 2 leo 6
They don't look lost, a detracking isn't exactly a catastrophic kill.
if they are visible by ziggers they can be VOGged or korneted. and considering there's a fricking engineering vehicle destroyed in that pile of broken dreams, i'd say they tried to recover them once
I'ma be 400% real with you, those leos look shopped as frick.
>fuzzy ass pixels
>no crater or ground discoloration on the one to the right
>no visible damage on the one to the right
>is "main prize" but drone operator decided to get close to mine clearers? Curious.
>No fire or smoke coming out on either leopard. Seeing how the mine plows are on fire, shouldn't the leos be on fire to?
ass pixels
It's a zoomed in video from not the best camera to begin with. it gives that effect.
I wouldn't start with the photoshop shit anon, they deliberately release these things in stages in part to make you look silly. Good chance they hit mines, were mobility killed, came under indirect fire and the crews decided to leave.
Looks new to me.
Russia can’t hit these with artillery. The second the shoot a salvo they have an m30a1 in route to their position. It’s why Russia is losing so much ground
You can clearly see shitton of impacts all around over the fresh grass. Russians either saturated whole field with tube artillery or launched two or three Grad salvos there.
Why weren’t they able to hit any of the vehicles
are you blind or dumb? do you think there are normally fires emanating from the side of a tank?
unfortunately i dont think the Ukies have counter battery figured out. if they did this war would've been over yesterday.
Probably training quality and equipment differences between units. Surely they can't all suck at counter battery.
It's the Belgorod Humvee all over again.
Funny how Russian video quality immediately drops when they need to show us another destroyed Leopard/Himars/TB-2/Su-24.
They are lying not just to us but to each other and running a scam to get those bounties.
>Funny how Russian video quality immediately drops when they need to show us another destroyed Leopard/Himars/TB-2/Su-24.
>They are lying not just to us but to each other and running a scam to get those bounties.
Russians never had very good video quality to begin with. We got spoiled by Ukrainian commercial chinese UAV's with their cinematic quality cameras. These fuzzy zoomed in videos are still a huge step above the typical military camera which is blurry black and white shit.
Westerner here of of Anglo-Saxia Oblast. Haha yes this is with on totally AI/shop generated picture. All here in Westernland know Westerner tanks are invulnerable nazi tech that cannot be destroyed or lost in any way and we expect no losses in offensive against prepared defenses.
And if it can truly be destroyed or lost we will all be desperately demoralized and be coping by calling AI generated pictures and cry and cancel support to ukraine. Strong agree.
they actually had a sky news report on how webm is fake because fire is square shaped or w/e
I’m I seeing things or is the Leopard in the left the one in your webm
Yes Joe Biden said offensive failed on state of union adress and sent his wife to putin also.
Wow there is people on picture that proves what you said.
replied to myself
https://streamable.com/xepkyi
explain this
The "expert" analyzing the video must have never heard about video codecs.
these two images dont look too bad, some knocked out equipment but the plow trails going past them and lack of bodies/other vehicles makes me think that its the wreckage left on the field after a successful assault that took losses. the right leo looks relatively undamaged, possibly a mobility kill. left leo may have burned though?
this picture is much more concerning. what the frick is going on here? why are there 3 demining vehicles on top of eachother? why are they plowing a zigzag snake path instead of a straight fricking line? whats the deal with the path on the right? it doesn't look like a plow track considering the green grass between the tread marks, does it stop at taht burned out vehicles or is this picture conveniently cropping out that it continues on past the obstacle?
>this picture is much more concerning. what the frick is going on here?
I'd guess the left track that's been beaten down was the main path of advance and after a couple vehicles got knocked out by missiles or something the rest turned around. The right track seems to be fresh from a vehicle that doesn't have a center plow, and nothing following it. Some mine plows do that.
>zig zag
Trying to avoid incoming arty? Missiles?
>zigzag
Most likely to cover the most area?
>Trying to avoid incoming arty? Missiles?
i hope not, id hope someone trained to drive/commabd one of ukraine's very few very precious western armored vehicles wouldnt be moronic enough to unironically serpentine a fricking tank
>Trying to avoid incoming arty? Missiles?
Sounds like they were disabled by drone corrected arty and abandoooned.
armor platoon level or individual tank level CIWS when raytheon
>this picture is much more concerning. what the frick is going on here?
Are you guys really so utterly blind as not to see 102 fresh shell craters on a single image?
Are you so blind as to see that the armored vehicles haven’t been hit with artillery
do you know what shrapnel is?
Yes and leopards are completely protected from artillery splinters
>haven't been hit
Sometimes I forget that this place is full of tourists who aren't autistic enough to research this shit. Tanks are designed to take HE IDF fire in their vicinity, generally up to a very close distance, without being penetrated by shrapnel. That does not mean that their tracks are immune from damage, or that any other external part of the tank can't take damage.
Like frick just go google this shit.
Never said they weren’t immobilized. I was remarking on how it’s funny the Russians don’t seem to be able to kill them with artillery
How accurate do you think unguided artillery is, anon?
if the artillery is within 10 kms and corrected by dji drones, it could probably be accurate enough, even if its VatBlack person artillery
>they lost both 2 leo 6 with guns and 2 mine plow variants.
And you lost 2 cities
Now again, how many mobiks were lost to capture a single toilet in Bakhmut?
>why are the two leopards there and not a kilometer back sniping with their fricking space age guns?
Because they're advancing
>such moronic manner
Remember the pontoon bridge where Russia lost like 100 armored vehicles because they kept setting up pontoon bridges in the same spot over and over again after they kept getting shelled?
Remember Chonobaivka?
Yeah and it wasn’t nearly as bad as trying the same fricking thing over and over despite getting shelled each time. That’s not even tactical logic, it’s just basic logic.
>Yeah and it wasn’t nearly as bad as trying the same fricking thing over and over despite getting shelled each time.
So, you don't remember Chornobaivka.
Remember Bakhmut?
Yeah, the Russians never took it.
Because you’re a Black person pajeet
>I dont care if the allies are marching to berlin, they should not lose shermans in such a moronic manner
>i dont care if a successful offensive is occurring, machines designed for breaking otherwise inpenetrable defensive lines should not be lost while using them as intended
now do you see the error of your ways?
post frontline
Dude. Ukrainians are wasting equipment and being obliterated by russians while they can barely manage to take only few russian towns. It is obvious that ukrainian oligarchs are stealing from the people and corrupting the country xddddddddd.
post frontline
what now ?
Soo... if those fortifications are so good, why haven't they built them on the first line?
let me just dig some trenches for you in contested area sir
Mines and pre-sighted artillery are cheap but need some room to do their job and soften the enemy.
NTA but that's not how you usually do fortifications. First line is really mostly about delaying them and funnelling them into areas more favourable to you and that you've already ranged. Also to give you some room to manoeuvrer so the enemy can't just stack all their forces up into one spot and crush your line there then encircle you without you being able to push reserves in. Basic shit really.
>talks about ukrainian oligarchs supposedly stealing money and being corrupt
>meanwhile complete blindness of situation in pigshit Russia where it is 10 times worse
Maybe next time put more "d" when you pretend to laugh to make you more convincing (it won't) you insufferable vatnig
Yeah, you can see how greatly they are doing by leaving like cowards their tanks destroyed. I mean, if you guys really consider this a victory, I don't want to see the complete state of the AFU xd.
>chooses to completely deflect, really makes you think
The difference is Russian oligarchs steal from Russians.
Ukranian oligarchs steal from the taxpayers of every Western nation.
I don't know who has the morale high ground in this war, but for reason of pure self interest, I hope Ukraine is wiped off the map.
Yeah I was totally gonna use that M113 that was paid for 50 years ago! >:(
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1667940048699011072
delete this, Ukrainians have broken through 12 defensive lines already
Hard to say obviously but they look recoverable.
They've cleared two tracks. That's good going.
No bodies again, going by the bradley footage Ukrainians are doing a good job at getting everyone out alive at least. Sucks to lose vehicles but that's the reality of an offensive.
If the Russians get a chance they'll drop drones or artillery on them most likely. But in many ways the crews matter more since they can always get more tanks sent over.
Yeah germs have more tanks
And will happily make more if someone gives them money.
>To be fair, unlike with the first one where it was super obvious literally nobody was in the vehicle (no blood, clear view into the cabin) this could easily have lead to deaths. The MRAP in particular may have gotten hit by a shaped charge or something with the driver splattered over half the cabin and we wouldn't know from this angle and image quality.
True. The flaming AFV on the bottom right doesn't look too promising but the MRAP is literally designed to take those sorts of hits. It's almost the ideal vehicle for this situation.
1)Restarting production is not trivial.
2)You are otherwise right.
>1)Restarting production is not trivial.
From completely cold yeh. Germany can still produce small numbers of Leos so ramping it up shouldn't be quite as hard.
Germany currently has a massive problem getting enough qualified workers for specialized industry and no political will to do anything about it.
To be fair, unlike with the first one where it was super obvious literally nobody was in the vehicle (no blood, clear view into the cabin) this could easily have lead to deaths. The MRAP in particular may have gotten hit by a shaped charge or something with the driver splattered over half the cabin and we wouldn't know from this angle and image quality.
What the frick are you talking about? The US is sending 31 Abrams, there are an ungodly number of Abrams hulls floating around.
Ok, how many Abrams are they sending?... And when?
> Verification not required
I wouldn't worry about it
it is literally the exact same spot, long road with trees on the right
did you expect they will lose zero (0) leopards and bradleyes?
i expect them to keep at range and destroy mobiks with their unknown technology blyat fire control systems, not fricking charge towards the frontlines like they're tom hanks in last samurai.
tom cruise*, i'm moronic.
I think you've fundamentally misunderstood what tanks do.
But I also think you don't care to learn or know what tanks do.
>Tom Hanks
>Last Samurai
I'd pay to see it
>Is this “seppuku,” Buzz?
>No, it’s dying with style!
>tom hanks in last samurai.
>okaasan always said that life was like a box of bento
>you never know what you're gonna get
For some reason I feel like Tom Hanks would've been a reluctant, socially-inept genius general who finally found a sense of community amongst the samurai and won the last battle handily to defend his new home.
youre a moron
I see your getting more desperate now that Ukraine is actually making gains.
Do these mine plow vehicles not work in well in practice? This must be the first time they've actually been used in a war, right?
Depends entirely on the ground, they work best in sand and loose soil, but very poorly in compact or rocky ground
Can you post the video? Because blurry still can be faked
No 🙂
channel hasn't posted it yet
OH N-
woah... 4 villages...
>w..we meant to lose ground to Ukraine
stupid khokhol don't know that the mighty russian anus is about to clench
>The counteroffensive was already a failure
>They'll never be able to break through the first line of defense
>It was just 1 village
>It was just 2 villages
>It was just 4 villages
-----YOU ARE HERE-----
>It was just Melitopol
>We never needed Crimea
>Donbas was never really Russian anyway
>We don't need St. Petersburg
>Moscow was just a goodwill gesture
>The Ukrainians will never take Vladivostok
>Rome was just a feint
>Washington DC will never fall to Ukraine
>Ukraine can't possibly beat the United Coalition of East Asia
>We never really wanted Mars anyway
>Alpha Centauri was just a retreat to a more favorable position
>Ukraine will never control the Andromeda Galaxy
>The Drol Imperium never had any expansionist ambitions to take over the Local Group anyway
>The Virgo Federation wanted Ukraine to take over the galactic cluster and annex their interstellar civilizations all along
>The Zer'u Progenitors were never that strong and all their weapons are eons out of date
>The coalition of Dark Matter civilizations never cared about baryonic civilizations like Ukraine anyway
>The First Ones always intended for Ukraine to overthrow them and take over the universe they created
>The Dimensional Wardens won't let Ukraine breach the barriers separating our universe form the broader multiverse
>The Elder Gods don't even exist so how could they lose to Ukraine?
I thought Bakhmut and Piss key was a big deal?
Implying villages are the gains here is what is so telling about the Russian side. Breaching defense lines swiftly gets turned into "wow villages" but then turns back into maps of those same defense lines when they want to show what Ukraine still has to contend with.
Yep, its nothing more than the operational equivalent of the capture of Soledar
except they did it four times in a week
So they haven't even gotten anywhere? With these massive losses in men and their best equipment? Truly incredible how pathetic hohols are.
>Treated Bahkmut like it was bigger than Stalingrad.
>Ukies take more ground than mighty Puccia has in a year.
>D-didn' matter! Trust Z plan!
Good morning, Sirs.
Bahkmut like it was bigger than Stalingrad.
are you mocking western media? based.
wow great success!
how many months of russian gains is that?
notice how vatBlack folk will do shit like this and completely memoryhole bahkmut, still treating that as the pinnacle of tactical genius, even though their rate of advance was 10x slower than this
>multiple Bakhmuts worth of territory in under a week in the most heavily fortified part of the front
seems like it's going pretty good
amazing how no one gave a frick when ukraine lost 500 tanks through the course of the war, but they lose 5 western made ones and now it matters.
kek
Those were old shitty Soviet tanks or tanks stolen from Russia. We expect the Bradleys and Leos to do better. Plus they cost a lot of money to make so we at least hope they get blown up in some huge cool battle where they kill like 100 Russians. Not get bogged down in some field and abandoned.
>we
>we we we
>money money money
The thing is not Ukraine paying for that shit hence they can afford losing them in droves like this
The difference is they western armor is actively attacking a dug in defending enemy. Taking losses is a certain as Russian lines disintegrating
Are you fricking moronic? "we"? Lots of money? you are being too obvious pooBlack person, notice the lack of bodies after mobility kill, "we" (not you) can make as many of them as we want, we are rich (you are not) so long the crews survive, which western vehicles are amazingly showing to the world, they can keep fighting.
Now frick off with the falseflagging
European arms industry isn't in the best shape and europeans armies really don't have that much spare equipment to share. On this matter, the US aren't doing a lot either. So it's not only about the loss of human lives which will soon come as well.
It doesn't look like you know as much as you want others to believe... Or maybe you're just moronic
The current weapons for the euro and american industry are just starting to be used.
Most of Russia's army destruction has been done by obsolete shit.
Listen here third worlder, you answered your own question, this happened with surpluss equipment, and you want us to start to produce and send shit? I fricking hope you fricking moron kek
I know the UK long since shut down its Chally II production lines and mothballed the majority of the tanks and a fair few other European countries are in similar spots but mothballed equipment can be reactivated when mothballs isn't slavic monkey tier 'leave it uncovered in a field to rust' stupidity. The USA on the other hand was smart enough not to run its industry down so there's no issue there.
What is important is trained crews and more widely manpower and the lack of bodies and some Ukrainian Bradley footage we've seen indicates those are surviving just fine. Also frankly if this makes Europe restart actual industry I'm all for it.
Germany never mothballed it's production
That's good news.
bradleys are garbage, on par with BMPs
Massive cope. Bradleys are great
t. never had to sit in the fetal position in a BMP
>Bradley gets hit
>Crew runs out in good order
>BMP gets hit
>Crew runs out as a red paste
Damn, bro realise war isn’t like video games..
first off, you're a 3rd world shitskin and not american.
secondly, even in the battle of kursk, the majority of the tanks were defeated penetrating defensive lines, not simply getting into a 1v1 with russki tanks.
Garage queens that never had to be used thanks to the US nuclear umbrella. If they wanted fewer armor losses they should have gotten more deep strike munitions.
The Leos break as revenge for Ukies constantly asking Germany for stuff when we don't have shit that runs ourselves. Please we just want to do industry, take some garbage and leave us alone. We already gave you Gepards and all the ammo we have.
I see no visible destruction. They could be providing overwatch in the hull down position.
So what happened here? I see four demining vehicles knocked out at the front of their trails, some random crap behind them, and then some Leos and Bradleys back at the tree line. An advance get hit with ATGM spam and the rest turned out and withdrew?
Looks like the leopards and Bradleys are seeing a lot of action. I’m loving the Bradley’s glory arch
>assault an enemy in the defense
>lose vehicles
this makes sense
This is still from the same attack from 4 days ago, isn't it?
Yeah, Oryx has what seems to be the same Bradley documented from the 9th
Were they geolocated?
Don't think so yet but Oryx just added them to the list. 3 of them aren't Leopard 2A6s, but Leopard 2R mine clearing tanks. So from Finland.
That's not really how that works anon, by all accounts HIMARS/M270 are basically front level assets that are moved around under secrecy. And like, come on, you can see the fresh mortar/HE impacts all over the place.
>Don't think so yet
Ahhh, and and the other ones that got spammed here?
And yet the vehicles are still in tact? Weird
Just saw that, if true I'm going to cry of laughter.
We're going to see these images spammed for the next week aren't we?
Maybe. Then, the Ukrainians gains were posted.
The Kherson offensive went the same way
Two weeks.
>AGAIN
these are new images of old event from different angles
I'm just mad the ukies haven't released any leopard guncam footage yet
I NEED to see high-res FLIR videos of soviet tanks getting cracked open like a can of tuna
Probably won't happen till the Minefields get cleared/passed. Best you'll get is most likely a ATGM nest getting blown to shit every once in a while.
anon at this rate i don't think there's going to be any. it genuinely feels like they're using leos to bait the most well equipped ziggers into concentrating on specific zones. of the line.
Very plausible when I think about it. throw the leos into a mined area, but far enough away from threats to where it can be recovered somewhat easily. Meanwhile 50km easy the actual attacks break through the lesser unmined areas.
An actual feint attack if you will.
It definitely looks like a different engagement from the previous pile but is anyone able to geolocalize these sites?
We shouldn't have given them any equipment and tax money. Guys, write to your congressmen, to your representatives, we should stop sponsoring this unjust war and this stupid slaughter.
the saddest thing is that I can't tell if this is parody because vatniks actually think this is how easy is to make the west stop supporting ukraine
HATO doesnt want peace*~~))
Im neutral btw
Just wrote to my representative that we need to give more
>filename
Reference?
The harry potter dullest franchise copypasta.
>We
Russia gave them equipment and tax money? I know you abandoned a lot of tanks but I'm not sure that counts.
What part of recoverable don't you morons understand?
>recoverable
yeah, im sure that won't be a problem at all
Recoverable is fine for the long term but a bunch of mobility kills means they're out of action in the moment. These photos have a bunch of mine clearers stopped at the end of their plowed roads, so whatever they were doing didn't continue in that direction.
The pattern you generally see, and we've seen this from Ukrainian footage also, is a mobility killed vehicle will look in decent shape just maybe with its tracks thrown/wheels stuck and its hatches/ramps open as the crew scrambled to escape. Then a drone will fly over separately to that initial context to record the abandoned vehicle for propaganda purposes before they are destroyed with something else. Possibly they will record the destruction too with footage cut to try and obscure the fact it was abandoned because the average member of the public thinks that's less impressive/not a 'real' kill.
The footage of Ukrainian drones dropping simple hand grenades through the hatches of abandoned tanks would be an example of this. That's actually a pretty cheap and sensible way to deal with them if your drone operators have that level of accuracy. Russians look to be spamming a ton of artillery at them instead, wiring up full on RPG warheads to suicide drones or even using AGTMs (possible helicopter-launched) which is obviously more costly than being able to reuse the same drone over and over and risks exposing better assets too.
It's been a long time since we've seen serious mechanised or armoured warfare outside of stomping arabs in desert shitholes but mobility kills are a huge thing even moreso in shitty muddy European terrain. Ignoring all the many other reasons German logistics in WW2 were a shitfest they build tanks that were in theory invincible from the front to AT weapons but got stuck or broke down and abandoned in huge numbers anyway.
You can’t recover a tank that’s completely filled with my cum.
Ben Garrison, is that you?
It's only recoverable if the frontline moves, and if by the time it moves it wasn't finished off by drones.
Drones can't finish off tanks or APCs if you close the hatch. I have yet to see *any* destruction footage on Leopards.
>if you close the hatch
if being the keyword
why yes I do close my hatches as I'm abandoning vehicle, attempting to save my life
how could you tell
>why yes I do close my hatches as I'm abandoning vehicle, attempting to save my life
I can't see shit in the 2 pixel picture you provided, but when you get tracked by a mine, you aren't in any immediate danger and would have the time to close the hatch. You get out of the vehicle simply because it can't move.
I am 100% positive you can see 2 massive black holes reminiscent of your mother's holes on top of that leo 2, so if you stop being a b***h you might accept the fact that they left it open for a FPV drone to fly in.
cope, Black person. No amount of grainy pictures or wishful thinking could bring your maginot line back
>a $99.99 aliexpress drone drops a incendiary grenade into the hatch
Post the video or frick off.
Why does homosexual Russia keep hiding behind minefields, why can't they meet the nazis in a tank on tank battle like the good old days
You're trying too hard well poisoner
Those are the monkey models. Real Leopards wouldn't have been taken out
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1668005499403419648
What was the tweet? Why is it deleted?
Oryx counted some of these as new but people posted pictures of them from 9th, some of the tanks and bradleys are old. dont know about engineering vehicles
Oryx added two Leopard 2A6, 2 Bradleys, 3 Leopard 2Rs and 1 Wisent 1 to the list, someone replied with a photo of a Bradley from the 9th that looked like it was the same vehicle from a different angle, and presumably he took it down to confirm numbers and not spread disinfo.
How's lefty/misc/ anyway? It looks like a shitty place. Do you guys really go back there and gossip about how you rekt the chuds or whatever?
That's just /misc/. These glavset hookers are all coming from /misc/, stop making excuses for your daycare board.
Shouldn't have closed the tab... But it was Oryx posting new losses to the list IIRC
-Leo 2A6
-2 Bradley's
-3 Leo mine clearers
-1 mine clearer I forgot the name of
Idk why he deleted it
At least one of the Bradleys were from old pictures
Most are listed as damaged and abandoned and there was a video showing a recovered Leopard so there's a good chance most of those abandoned vehicles were recovered.
I also wonder where is the rest of Western stuff, so far it's only been Bradleys and Leos
why are you so mad?
It's a simple psyop trick, there's nothing special of releasing old footage as new achievements
>NOT A SINGLE BRADLEY GUN FOOTAGE KEK
you don't even see your own propaganda?
The best part is that for every dead leopard and bradley there are two more that werent video taped lol. They already lost 80% of their nato provided force and are yet to reach the first line of defense
Its almost like crossing a minefield under artillery and antitank fire is really really fricking difficult. Once one of these pushes gets through the much vaunted defense in depth and opens up that sweet backside is going to be TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO all over again, we can just keep feeding em brads lol
No idea why they are still attacking in that direction with these results unless it's really a feint.
Russians seem to have the strongest defenses and best units there, probably because it's one of their logistics hubs really close behind. They are also losing their best tanks/IFVs there instead of say, L2A4s. I am not even sure whether there are differences in survival rates for crew behind A4 and A6, and it's unlikely the crews of A6 will see another Leopard soon given their limited supply, effectively meaning they can't carry over their experience.
Like just send some turret throwers there if you must.
Composite image.
Even if these are older losses, I hate to see those deminers go.
>older losses
THEY ARENT
They're from a few days ago, anon.
Oryx put them up like 3 days ago.
Do you understand how the qualifier "even if" works? Do you need a refresher on your ESL courses?
Nice job anon. Anyone got any idea why the vehicle on the right was alone but on the left we see 2-3 mine clearing vehicles and some APCs to follow it?
It's clear why the US is expanding the number of engineering companies in its heavy divisions from 2 to 6.
Yeah frick doing anything in Korea.
Mine clearing is hard. What do you expect them to do? Not clear minefields?
This makes it even clearer. Hull down at the red circle would be mutch better position than the one those tanks are at.
ah yes, artillery, famous for caring about your line of sight cover
Obviously some tanks did do that. The two tanks directly in front of that circle are clearly positions to provide cover in two directions from the rear judging by where their turrets are pointing. There were likely others that hung back but they will have gotten away unscathed.
The field clearly undulates and a drone flying in the air has a very different sightline than a soldier on the ground.
What a waste of valuable equipment. Why use these weapons for a full frontal assault?
I know the Russians and their shills tried to pretend that western equipment was somehow invincible and shit, but the reality is that even western nations would be losing stuff attacking DEFENSIVE POSITIONS. Yes, even the US lost stuff in Iraq (both times) with air superiority. Shit happens. You miss something. An A10 gets hungry and marks your tank as an enemy and you get yeeted by a friendly. Shit happens.
Why people are surprised a nation attacking is losing stuff will forever boggle me. This is going to keep happening.
i am not disappointed at losses, i am disappointed at them doing suicide charges when they could comfortably turn ziggers into paste from kilometers away BEFORE CROSSING THE MINEFIELD
I don't really remember USA losing that many pieces especially given many more were fielded. Still it was all due to also having overwhelming artillery and air superiority.
A lot changes when you can bomb the enemy for a whole month with impunity.
the point is that even with months o f systematic bombing et al, stuff was still lost. a lot? maybe not. but stuff was still lost. granted mostly due to friendly fire (for example gulf war, 3 bradley's were lost to enemy fire, 17 to friendly) but people are pretending like this shouldn't be happening.
you don't have infinite views to do that, sometimes there is a hill or a tree line in the way and you have to move forward. real life isn't an rts.
>the point is that even with months o f systematic bombing et al, stuff was still lost. a lot?
I don't think you're making a good case there. There is losing 3 Bradleys out of hundreds (thousands?) by enemy fire that would happen only once in a while to the point it could be called a freak incident, and suffering high losses without fulfilling any objectives.
Why does this image look so weird?
Because it is incredibly low-res.
High zoom/low FOV, weird angle, and it's cropped.
Looks like this is from that assault that happened a couple days ago. They just didn't bother showing the deminers until now for some reason
It is indeed a new angle. Some new losses but doesn't appear to be a from today.
Crymea in 2 weeks!
Why don't you post the video where it's fine?
why does the turret look as if it's 40 feet long?
LONG TURRET IS LOOOONG
Good Morning Sis, and welcome to war, especially on the offensive you're going to lose shit, becuase the enemy gets a say and not everythign will go your way.
Losing 14% of your most capable tanks is ... le good actually!
so puccia is finished now, got it
In exchange of what is the question.
Unfortunately not much, considering this was geolocated near Robotyne where we have only seen evidence of failed pushes so far.
>this was geolocated near Robotyne
source?
NTA but Geoconfirmed
Hopefully they've learned their lesson and the brigade can be deployed somewhere else. It looks like they wanted a thunder run to Tokmak and it failed.
what percentage of T-90s have been lost
Did someone ever geolocate the first batch of Leopards and Bradley loses? It's been posted all over but I never saw the actual coordinates.
They're from the Orkhiv area. It seems like they've laid off the attacks in and around there since June 9th or so and the Russians have used the opportunity to film the carnage in the gray zone.
Why aren't we seeing Soviet-era tanks used by Ukraine anymore? Leopards seem to do all the attacks.
they fell for the NATO wunderwaffe meme and thought the Russians would just give up when they saw a Leopard
>Why aren't we seeing Soviet-era tanks used by Ukraine anymore
who is this "we"? /r/combatfootage? because I've seen like 10 or so destroyed/damaged on camera in the past 8 days of the counteroffensyiv.
look, I even bothered enough and collected screencaps of exactly 10 tanks from the current ongoing events for your brown eyes to see. and there's more, too.
>counteroffensyiv.
I'm sorry should I have used globohomosexual approved name for this?
500 armata tanks destroyed
no but thank you for outing yourself as a moutbreather, saves me the trouble.
>moutbreather
omg ESL opinion discarded L + ratio
What do ziggers even mean by this? Is this a shot at Kyiv?
Obviously, the correct spelling is counteroffensiev.
Yeah and it's literally one dude using it. As you can see he gets very salty when you point it out.
These look fully intact and operational. Cope more, russBlack person.
>show two tanks
>doesn't even look like they're hit
>don't even stand next to them to show that they gottem
Why are russian proofs so bad while we get 4k hd kino from ukis.
OOOO YEAH
>ignores the four mine clearing and engineering vehicles
>posts bombing of a kindergarden
>exploding secondaries in a kindergarten
>thinking children would stay around when russians are around
>not realizing the superiority of western satellites and optics in surveying moronic pidors on the battlefield
Russia got its shit pushed in 3 times already Rajesh with 1/20 of afghanistan spending. Is it so hard to believe its happening a 4th time?
>0:30
What the frick are those things. WHAT THE FRICK ARE THOSE THINGS! AHHHH
It’s over /k/bros… our le tanks
>milking the same spot again
https://twitter.com/WG12341234/status/1668009404992552963
Why haven't Russians posted like literally any other square km? Is this really all they have?
Are we going to be stuck in a loop of Ukrainians taking ground only for them to release a new angle to deflect?
>Ukrainians are approaching Moscow
>quick, release the 2091837857918023rd angle
This makes me think Ukraine's doing OK at least with this counteroffensive on the whole. They had this one fricked up advance that got wasted and so far it's all Russia has been able to show.
You should see state of Russian telegrams right now, they don't seem to be happy
TRUUUUUST
I'M TROOOOOSTING
>You will panic when I say
>implying that, at some point in the future, there will be panic
The first two look the same. Not sure the third one is because the trees don't look the same square shape but geolocation autists will no doubt confirm it for us soon.
>replying to yourself
Anon, we can all see that it isn't the same area
Do you have developmental issues? You have your directions all wrong.
>getting this desperate after being called out
What do you think happens to exposed dirt after it has been dug up?
>Brown dirt with grass next to it before fire
>Black dirt with grass patches in it after fire
WOW
if this is in fact the same vehicle as you say it means that lancet destroyed leo and smoke launchersextinguisher cope was pointless
VIDEO RELEASED FROM NEW SPOT https://t.me/RVvoenkor/47137
Why are you gays typing in all caps?
>No scrubbing
>no fullscreen
>no volume control
whoever designed this player needs to be killed
>New spot
so its a video from this spot
it looks like between whenever the video was taken and the pictures were taken the third engineering vehicle showed up + something plowed that second track on the right.
I think this shot from near the end is the last pile up of vehicles we saw. So this new stuff is from further down the same path either from the same attack or from a second or third one trying the same route.
Comparing the video to the pictures we can see that more vehicles showed up. It isn't one failed assault we're seeing, it's an ongoing attempt at breaching some defensive line.
zBlack folk are still milking the same fricking footage from different angles holy shit
This is nothing, remember the tank video and barrel roll spam?
Can't tell if some got hit or just threw the smoke screens
No bodies? Lame, tell your people to do better
I got access recently to fresh classified NATO files that support that these offensives are going to work in the long run, the kidnappings and assassinations by Ukrainian soldiers is what’s holding them back the most
I have direct access to physical evidence of your mother working as a prostitute, in the form of this nasty rash on my balls.
/qa/ refugees don't get opinions, filtered
Since when does /k/ dislike bombing Donbass children? Or do you just dislike his pic?
>still the same area again
>just new angles
Holy frick. Post something new already. Surely there has to be something else.
Clearly its not the old, why are you being disingenuous?
This has 3 mine plowers and no bunched up vehicles
>Clearly its not the old, why are you being disingenuous?
they're either moronic, or a vatBlack person falseflagging
>again
>it's actually just the different angle of the old footage
ziggers must be fricked completely if they already have to cope with old news
The other advances must be doing pretty well if this same area is the only one being posted.
yes
What am I looking at?
The same fricking place as all the other videos and images lmao
Arty or mine?
oh jesus i think that was a soft skinned white suv
what NATO vehicle are these?
I see pictures of destroyed western tanks and it makes me feel sad. Next morning when I wake up, I see the blue on that map growing ever larger and it makes me stop feeling sad
Just remember for every dead leo there's hundreds of dead mobiks and tens of kilometers liberated
https://twitter.com/fdov21/status/1668007192807497729
>road of death
>can't see any dead
I'm sure everyone returned safely to base along with the recoverable vehicles
Yeah, actually. Here's a video from this area showing literally that
Nice retreat
>don't trust your lying eyes
What am I looking at here anons?
Failed pontoon crossing at Vuhledar with many russians dead and vehicles lost
>Vuhledar
wrong area, this was the seversky donets river crossing attempt (copelord saw this as acceptable casualties btw). youre fogiven for getting it mixed up though, there have been alot of these frick ups.
Ooof ouchie wawa
These vatnik pukes and their "lingo"
uhg sisters 5 more twitter links and leopard will return back to germany to be repaired and sent back to frontline
Da cumrade, ass will raise and every one will understand
screencap source?
the kherson offensive was cancelled? pretty sure it was completed instead.
This was Kherson last year.
Vittu meidän Lepardit!
But yeah, everyone knows that they needed way more mine clearing equipment but there is not enough to give which fricking sucks.
Oh noes, another 2 lightly damaged vehicles for the repair depots to put back into action within a day or two, what should we ever do?
What are the odds that Russia is running drone missions behind the line of contact to take pictures of as many disabled or even parked Ukrainian vehicles in order to desperately create the impression that they are handily defeating the entire offensive?
100% dude
here are some parked vehicles near soledar
>USSR surplus vehicles.
where's the dead leopards? The supposed 1600 dead uke servicemen? The scores of surrendering Ukrainian forced conscripts?
>where's the dead leopards
in a different location, used by a different motorized brigade.
0, they'll just cope with whatever will be the latest ukrainian graph featuring 6 million russians KIA
It truly is mindboggling that russians find losing equipment in an offensive a huge shock when that's all they've done for the past 16 months
Serious question, how many /k/ posters are going to kill themselves if Ukraine loses this war? And is that something the mods should take into account when choosing the level of inflammatory discourse they tolerate on this board?
Russia stands to be royally fricked for decades in the wake of this conflict no matter who fires the last shot. Both politically and militarily. The cope that "what if russia wins" in itself is a staggering loss of position when most people thought Russia would steamroll this 3rd world shithole in a couple weeks.
Thanks for this cope. Hopefully we won't have to use it, but if we do then maybe it will save a few lives.
Going by the current estimates on russian losses, you're gonna have to get about 75% of the non credible defense subreddit to an hero if you want to give russia a positive kill/loss ratio. Better up your game.
why does a huge superpower that is invading its "redneck", "cargo-cult" neighbor have to fall back and sit behind "muh lines of defense"?
Do you actually think /k/ is attached to Ukraine, or is this just bait?
zigs getting high on what little good news they can scrape together, just like last summer
can't wait for the communications blackout to end t b h
The level of weapons grade /k/opium and ignorance of operational art on this thread made my fricking week. Hull down positions? Easily recoverable despite a recovery vehicle in an flaming heap in frame. LOL. Pure comedy gold.
You NAFO clowns are just now finding out that Western equipment really isn't any better that the Russian stuff you scoffed at for years. First time it's actually involved in real combat against a real enemy that's not some hapless Third World shithole with surplus WWII equipment, it gets wrecked. Not a good day for NAFO sisters.
>T-90 gets ATGM'd
>turret joins the space program
>crew is given free cremation
>Leopard gets ATGM'd, artied and droned
>throws a track
>crew gets a hot meal after making it back
Exactly the same.