>Russian soldiers scream Allah Akbar as they enter a Ukrainian village >Russian soldiers lose to Isis
I'm thinking Muslims are planning a coup to overthrow the Russian regime
Really interesting article >Regime fighters reported an extremely rare use of an ISIS anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) when militants captured a position near Fahdeh from which they were able to loot quantities of weapons, ammunition, and medicine.
>ISIS seems to have deployed a significant number of fighters to the front. Fighting groups range from five to 25 men and ambushes often begin with one group engaging regime forces directly while another moves along their flanks. Such coordinated and sustained battles centered around the two mountains, which are more than 12 miles apart, suggests that well over 100 ISIS militants are involved.
>According to those in contact with regime fighters on the front, ISIS cells are using only small arms and improvised explosive devices, relying on their years of experience in these mountains and creek beds to draw regime forces into ambushes and mine fields, the latter of which has proven critical to impeding the advance of Syrian army scouts.
>ISIS operational trends over past years appear to show a clear tendency toward caution, picking battles that are likely to result in few to no ISIS human or material losses and quickly withdrawing in the face of regime counter-attacks.
>The most likely reason for this is that ISIS has managed to integrate a new cohort of young recruits into its active cells.
Everybody with a brain knew ISIS was going to be back eventually after baghuz. They've got tens of thousands of kids growing up in prison camps radicalized and all they needed to do was wait. The only real solution here would be massacring everybody in the camps but muh human rights and shit means it's a ticking time bomb.
Yup. Yeah let ISIS brides raise kids and environment where they completely control that childs learning and endgame by with the world. That’ll definitely lead to long term peace
The ISIS brides should have been put in scattered prison camps and their children sent to adoption centers. The ISIS brides should have unironically been put in island detention centers in the ocean.
It seems everywhere Russia had any influence at all is suddenly finding themselves no longer propped up by Russian arms and are thus collapsing.
Curious.
And the western countries like the US and France have pulled out of a lot of those places after the governments started getting cosy with Russia/Wagner. Now they've lost all the western ISR and actual competent anti-terrorism forces. Reap what you sow and all that.
Yes, everything is the CIA anon. An organization which has waged an insurgency for 20 years could never wage another one with the billions of dollars they got from their caliphate or the thousands of fighters that escaped.
Yeah and the CIA propped up ISIS so they could fight the definitively US backed Kurdish militias and the Iraqi forces for… reasons? I never understood that copespriracy the US has proxies in the region, why would they fund new ones who just go and attack the old ones who were extremely loyal dogs
Because schizos see that the CIA funded rebels (true) and then extrapolate that to having funded ISIS despite it being literally the successor of an Iraqi insurgent group that the USA fought in Iraq. Same guys that were beheading people like nick berg.
>Because schizos see that the CIA funded rebels (true) and then extrapolate that to having funded ISIS despite it being literally the successor of an Iraqi insurgent group that the USA fought in Iraq. Same guys that were beheading people like nick berg.
These are the same people that call the 1980s Mujahideen in Afghanistan "the Taliban". They just latch onto the fad of the month and throw in their moronic opinion on countries they never knew existed before [current event] after reading a couple of shitty misleading infographics.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anon, you've got to remember that a large proportion of users here are underageb& or close to it. Most of them legit were not even sentient when al qaeda was going full Black personmode in Iraq. Most probably don't even know Nick Berg.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It wouldn’t be so bad if they read a single book or anything on this topic but yeah
1 year ago
Anonymous
anon, nobody has the attention span to read books anymore. I have a few book recommendations (really interesting stuff actually) about it if any anons want though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Go for it
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Black Flags: The Rise of ISIS
really good, medium sized book running over basic things like who/what Al Qaeda in Iraq was and how it turned into ISIS during 2003-2015
>Frederic Wehrey: The Burning Shores Inside the Battle for the New Libya
GREAT book. about what caused Libyans to revolt (yes, it was a real revolution not CIA) and how the state slowly unravelled into chaos and ISIS and Al Qaeda managed to spread like cancer into north africa from the levant.
>Destroying a Nation: The civil war in Syria
about who Assad is, what he did to cause Syrians to protest initially and then how it eventually turned into a jihadi-kurd-"secular" never ending war.
Sorry if this is slightly nonsensical i'm drunk but trying to write why you should read a book
1 year ago
Anonymous
A /k/ book thread would be good
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It wouldn’t be so bad if they read a single book or anything on this topic but yeah
This is what annoyed me the most during the GWOT years. There was a fricking mountain of information available yet people still couldn't be bothered to learn the basics.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It wouldn’t be so bad if they read a single book or anything on this topic but yeah
This is not the same board it was back in even 2013, anon. Most of these people never even saw the european terrorist attacks circa 2015 on TV.
Remember if we're talking to 16 year olds that means they were born in 2007, so in 2014 they were literally 7 years old. Be honest did you remember basically anything that happened when you were like 6? If some minor but very important thing happened like the erection of anti-vehicle barricades in public places, would you have noticed it at that age? No, you'd just think "ooh cool block with paint on it" and move on and when someone here brought your attention to it a decade later you'd scoff as, to you, it never mattered to you so why would it to them?
Now the recent trend towards being purposefully ignorant, like actually deliberately refusing to do any research, that's fricking cancerous. But try to have some perspective.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Now the recent trend towards being purposefully ignorant, like actually deliberately refusing to do any research, that's fricking cancerous
This is why history repeats itself time and time again. The cycle never ends.
Basically, different branches of the US government have different ideas for how the region should go. The DoD backed the Kurds in order to divert ISIS's attention from Iraq, but the CIA viewed long-term Syro-Kurdish success as a negative because it would strain relations with Turkey. They backed "moderate Muslim" militias in partnership with Turkey, and you can see how supporting ISIS might come into this.
CIA propped up Al'Qaeda in Iraq to fight Assad along with countless other "moderate rebel groups" that ended up fighting each other, they rebranded and quickly sprawled out of control because the Shia dominated government of Iraq was pissing off the Sunni Iraqi leading to ISIL renaming to ISIS, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. Obama was so tilted over Iraq holding the US accountable for IS crossing over in Iraq that he NEVER ONCE referred to them as ISIS, always ISIL. Even when the entire media landscape was calling them ISIS.
>ISIL renaming to ISIS, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria
What the frick are you talking about? They never changed their name. ISIS and ISIL are both acronyms for the same thing depending on your translation of al-Sham. ISIL was used by governments because the UN used that. Some media went to ISIS, and it stuck with the general public. The governments (US at least) tried to make Daesh the official name since it's the derogatory one Arabs used for them but it never stuck in the media.
Yes, because the CIA has never backed extremist groups and dictatorial regimes when it served their purposes. At any point in time. Ever.
Yeah and the CIA propped up ISIS so they could fight the definitively US backed Kurdish militias and the Iraqi forces for… reasons? I never understood that copespriracy the US has proxies in the region, why would they fund new ones who just go and attack the old ones who were extremely loyal dogs
Supporting opposing regional groups, so that no one group is able to grab power and influence in the region, and this counter external forces is the oldest trick in the colonialist playbook.
ISIS has been dormant for almost a decade, and now they have enough resources and are attacking russian forces with anti tank missiles, that they just found lying around, and recruits that spontaneously popped out of the sand. If you don't think they are getting outside help you are not just gullible and uneducated, you are literally moronic.
>ISIS has been dormant for almost a decade
This alone marks you as a fricking moron. The caliphate only collapsed barely 4 years ago and the affiliates have been seizing territory in Africa rapidly.
>ISIS has been dormant for almost a decade
I swear it's like the entire multi year effort to fricking obliterate IS in all forms didn't happen to you morons because it wasn't covered 24/7 on all news channels. FFS you're acting like ATGMs are only possibly obtained from the US, wow.
You know Africa is host to several countries that have a population in the hundreds of millions right? You really think it's impossible that one of those countries might invest in ATGMs, then have those ATGMs stolen by rebels?
>fallling for agiprop
yall realize these modern conspiracies are no different than >cia killed jfk >moon landing was fake >fbi introduced crack to kill blacks and aids to kill homos
you closeted fifth columnist gays lap this shit right up because it's in style to talk shit about the government or any three-letter agency.
>you closeted fifth columnist gays lap this shit right up because it's in style to talk shit about the government or any three-letter agency.
They get bombarded in their online echo chambers by memes about the CIA doing this and that, US elites control everything, but funnily enough there's never any memes about the GRU, SVR, MSS or UFWD in their circles.
I love how you capitalized Current Thing!!! OMG lolololol!!!!! The libs are all stupid tweeters lol!!! Its's funny because it's true lol lmao!!! XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
Do people actually not know that ISIS are Saudi funded puppets? That's why they leave Israel alone. The US can be implicated indirectly as the security guarantor of SA, but that's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. I would love to say frick you to the international community and let those c**ts burn but apparently keeping our allies supplied with oil is important or something.
Also, at this rate I expect to see another spicy migration wave in Europe. Hope they enjoy those EU mamdated quotas.
Why were all these homosexuals driving toyota hiluxes around sandland back in 2015? Was it just for branding or is that model of car easier to maintain?
Bit of both, plus for a period people were shipping utility vehicles to that region like crazy. Anyone have the photo of the hilux with "Bill's Painting" or something on the side complete with phone number, sporting an anti-aircraft gun?
>Now the recent trend towards being purposefully ignorant, like actually deliberately refusing to do any research, that's fricking cancerous
This is why history repeats itself time and time again. The cycle never ends.
No this is something new. It feels like the UFO skepticist crowds of the 90s but instead of operating with very tenuous real sources they're hooked up to a fire hose of artificially generated bullshit.
The modern internet is nothing like what we wanted it to be. This generation was supposed to have unlimited access to authentic information. Now it's just TikTok and Telegram since big corporations clamped down on any "misuse" of their "copyright" (translation: digitizing and making available books from any era). The closest thing to a decent encyclopedia of all known correct information is wikipedia and we know how fricking shit that place is.
Every other website takes down information at random, modifies it without warning, deletes or bans users for no reason. Did you hear that imgur is deleting all images uploaded by non-verified users? That's probably 10 years of internet history gone.
Like what's the alternative? To go up to a teenager (be real that's who is making the really dumb posts here) and tell them to spend $80 on a rare book about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? Do you really think most people will do that shit?
so what, has ISIS figured out that.. while glorious, 4k videos of brutal executions weren't actually getting them anywhere from a combat standpoint, and so they are stepping up their actual fighting game?
>Russian soldiers scream Allah Akbar as they enter a Ukrainian village
>Russian soldiers lose to Isis
I'm thinking Muslims are planning a coup to overthrow the Russian regime
I hope so, maybe we'll get a more rational Russia.
How can you say Muslims are rational when they marry their cousins? Are you moronic
Yiu missed the joke anontard. He was being ironic by comparing their rationality favorably to russians.
We all know the pedo worshippers arent rational.
You never know these days
Part of indonesia seems to be alone in lack of this moronation in the Muslim world.
Grey isn't measured.
Indonesia and Malaysia are surrounded by pretty much every other religion so there not as closed minded as other Muslim cultures
Malay region in general were colonized by western powers for like centuries so a lot of their social norms are surprisingly western
>Missing the joke
Because they're so attractive! I...I thought that was the whole reason for this jihad.
coocoo monster
Really interesting article
>Regime fighters reported an extremely rare use of an ISIS anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) when militants captured a position near Fahdeh from which they were able to loot quantities of weapons, ammunition, and medicine.
>ISIS seems to have deployed a significant number of fighters to the front. Fighting groups range from five to 25 men and ambushes often begin with one group engaging regime forces directly while another moves along their flanks. Such coordinated and sustained battles centered around the two mountains, which are more than 12 miles apart, suggests that well over 100 ISIS militants are involved.
>According to those in contact with regime fighters on the front, ISIS cells are using only small arms and improvised explosive devices, relying on their years of experience in these mountains and creek beds to draw regime forces into ambushes and mine fields, the latter of which has proven critical to impeding the advance of Syrian army scouts.
>ISIS operational trends over past years appear to show a clear tendency toward caution, picking battles that are likely to result in few to no ISIS human or material losses and quickly withdrawing in the face of regime counter-attacks.
>The most likely reason for this is that ISIS has managed to integrate a new cohort of young recruits into its active cells.
Everybody with a brain knew ISIS was going to be back eventually after baghuz. They've got tens of thousands of kids growing up in prison camps radicalized and all they needed to do was wait. The only real solution here would be massacring everybody in the camps but muh human rights and shit means it's a ticking time bomb.
Yup. Yeah let ISIS brides raise kids and environment where they completely control that childs learning and endgame by with the world. That’ll definitely lead to long term peace
The ISIS brides should have been put in scattered prison camps and their children sent to adoption centers. The ISIS brides should have unironically been put in island detention centers in the ocean.
wtf
bullets are far cheaper than any of that shit
the spook training paid off, nice
Based, they've also been recently giving the talisharts a run for their money.
It seems everywhere Russia had any influence at all is suddenly finding themselves no longer propped up by Russian arms and are thus collapsing.
Curious.
And the western countries like the US and France have pulled out of a lot of those places after the governments started getting cosy with Russia/Wagner. Now they've lost all the western ISR and actual competent anti-terrorism forces. Reap what you sow and all that.
Is the CIA funding ISIS again?
lol, first thing that went through my head.
Yes, everything is the CIA anon. An organization which has waged an insurgency for 20 years could never wage another one with the billions of dollars they got from their caliphate or the thousands of fighters that escaped.
Yeah and the CIA propped up ISIS so they could fight the definitively US backed Kurdish militias and the Iraqi forces for… reasons? I never understood that copespriracy the US has proxies in the region, why would they fund new ones who just go and attack the old ones who were extremely loyal dogs
Because schizos see that the CIA funded rebels (true) and then extrapolate that to having funded ISIS despite it being literally the successor of an Iraqi insurgent group that the USA fought in Iraq. Same guys that were beheading people like nick berg.
>Because schizos see that the CIA funded rebels (true) and then extrapolate that to having funded ISIS despite it being literally the successor of an Iraqi insurgent group that the USA fought in Iraq. Same guys that were beheading people like nick berg.
These are the same people that call the 1980s Mujahideen in Afghanistan "the Taliban". They just latch onto the fad of the month and throw in their moronic opinion on countries they never knew existed before [current event] after reading a couple of shitty misleading infographics.
Anon, you've got to remember that a large proportion of users here are underageb& or close to it. Most of them legit were not even sentient when al qaeda was going full Black personmode in Iraq. Most probably don't even know Nick Berg.
It wouldn’t be so bad if they read a single book or anything on this topic but yeah
anon, nobody has the attention span to read books anymore. I have a few book recommendations (really interesting stuff actually) about it if any anons want though.
Go for it
>Black Flags: The Rise of ISIS
really good, medium sized book running over basic things like who/what Al Qaeda in Iraq was and how it turned into ISIS during 2003-2015
>Frederic Wehrey: The Burning Shores Inside the Battle for the New Libya
GREAT book. about what caused Libyans to revolt (yes, it was a real revolution not CIA) and how the state slowly unravelled into chaos and ISIS and Al Qaeda managed to spread like cancer into north africa from the levant.
>Destroying a Nation: The civil war in Syria
about who Assad is, what he did to cause Syrians to protest initially and then how it eventually turned into a jihadi-kurd-"secular" never ending war.
Sorry if this is slightly nonsensical i'm drunk but trying to write why you should read a book
A /k/ book thread would be good
>It wouldn’t be so bad if they read a single book or anything on this topic but yeah
This is what annoyed me the most during the GWOT years. There was a fricking mountain of information available yet people still couldn't be bothered to learn the basics.
This is not the same board it was back in even 2013, anon. Most of these people never even saw the european terrorist attacks circa 2015 on TV.
Remember if we're talking to 16 year olds that means they were born in 2007, so in 2014 they were literally 7 years old. Be honest did you remember basically anything that happened when you were like 6? If some minor but very important thing happened like the erection of anti-vehicle barricades in public places, would you have noticed it at that age? No, you'd just think "ooh cool block with paint on it" and move on and when someone here brought your attention to it a decade later you'd scoff as, to you, it never mattered to you so why would it to them?
Now the recent trend towards being purposefully ignorant, like actually deliberately refusing to do any research, that's fricking cancerous. But try to have some perspective.
>Now the recent trend towards being purposefully ignorant, like actually deliberately refusing to do any research, that's fricking cancerous
This is why history repeats itself time and time again. The cycle never ends.
Basically, different branches of the US government have different ideas for how the region should go. The DoD backed the Kurds in order to divert ISIS's attention from Iraq, but the CIA viewed long-term Syro-Kurdish success as a negative because it would strain relations with Turkey. They backed "moderate Muslim" militias in partnership with Turkey, and you can see how supporting ISIS might come into this.
Everything is a CIA conspiracy. The CIA is literally in the room rent free in their heads.
There is even cope now that the Ayatollah were put in by the CIA to...unseat the Shah. You know one of the US's greatest allies in the region.
CIA propped up Al'Qaeda in Iraq to fight Assad along with countless other "moderate rebel groups" that ended up fighting each other, they rebranded and quickly sprawled out of control because the Shia dominated government of Iraq was pissing off the Sunni Iraqi leading to ISIL renaming to ISIS, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. Obama was so tilted over Iraq holding the US accountable for IS crossing over in Iraq that he NEVER ONCE referred to them as ISIS, always ISIL. Even when the entire media landscape was calling them ISIS.
ESL confirmed
>ISIL renaming to ISIS, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria
What the frick are you talking about? They never changed their name. ISIS and ISIL are both acronyms for the same thing depending on your translation of al-Sham. ISIL was used by governments because the UN used that. Some media went to ISIS, and it stuck with the general public. The governments (US at least) tried to make Daesh the official name since it's the derogatory one Arabs used for them but it never stuck in the media.
Yes, because the CIA has never backed extremist groups and dictatorial regimes when it served their purposes. At any point in time. Ever.
Supporting opposing regional groups, so that no one group is able to grab power and influence in the region, and this counter external forces is the oldest trick in the colonialist playbook.
ISIS has been dormant for almost a decade, and now they have enough resources and are attacking russian forces with anti tank missiles, that they just found lying around, and recruits that spontaneously popped out of the sand. If you don't think they are getting outside help you are not just gullible and uneducated, you are literally moronic.
>ISIS has been dormant for almost a decade
This alone marks you as a fricking moron. The caliphate only collapsed barely 4 years ago and the affiliates have been seizing territory in Africa rapidly.
>ISIS has been dormant for almost a decade
I swear it's like the entire multi year effort to fricking obliterate IS in all forms didn't happen to you morons because it wasn't covered 24/7 on all news channels. FFS you're acting like ATGMs are only possibly obtained from the US, wow.
You know Africa is host to several countries that have a population in the hundreds of millions right? You really think it's impossible that one of those countries might invest in ATGMs, then have those ATGMs stolen by rebels?
No, Wagner just falls apart whenever someone fights back
>fallling for agiprop
yall realize these modern conspiracies are no different than
>cia killed jfk
>moon landing was fake
>fbi introduced crack to kill blacks and aids to kill homos
you closeted fifth columnist gays lap this shit right up because it's in style to talk shit about the government or any three-letter agency.
>you closeted fifth columnist gays lap this shit right up because it's in style to talk shit about the government or any three-letter agency.
They get bombarded in their online echo chambers by memes about the CIA doing this and that, US elites control everything, but funnily enough there's never any memes about the GRU, SVR, MSS or UFWD in their circles.
>agiprop
It's agitprop, agitation and propaganda
>>cia killed jfk
They did tho
by introducing additional conspiracy theories it discredits and deflects from the most truthful theory
Besides the third one all those are known facts, what the frick are you trying to proove?
oof, Cucknerites can't catch a break. Have they actually won ANY battles?
they allegedly killed some chinese nationals in africa recently, dont know if thats considered a win or not tho
I can't decide whom I hate more: the Russians, the commies, or these bearded Muslim fundamentalist frickers.
just cheer on them killing each other
indeed anon, thanks for advice
>ISIS was a western PMC after all
I truly see now. Russians are fighting a holy war against Satan.
Proud lifelong Democrat here, who should I cheer for? I need to be the first one to change their Twitter background to match the next Current Thing.
Just put the ISIS flag in there. If someone gives you shit accuse them of Islamophobia
I love how you capitalized Current Thing!!! OMG lolololol!!!!! The libs are all stupid tweeters lol!!! Its's funny because it's true lol lmao!!! XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
I guess that hit a little too close to home for you. Better change your Twitter profile.
>https://www.mei.edu/publications/isis-beats-back-wagner-offensive-central-syria
Do people actually not know that ISIS are Saudi funded puppets? That's why they leave Israel alone. The US can be implicated indirectly as the security guarantor of SA, but that's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. I would love to say frick you to the international community and let those c**ts burn but apparently keeping our allies supplied with oil is important or something.
Also, at this rate I expect to see another spicy migration wave in Europe. Hope they enjoy those EU mamdated quotas.
>That's why they leave Israel alone.
Apart from the terrorist attacks
yep, this explain why China wanted to be on French's good side all of the sudden
moronic take. China will always want France closer to it and further from America.
>le CIA created/funds ISIS argument again
has wagner pulled out any significant amount of forces from the area to go fight in ukraine recently?
Yeah, I’m thinkin’ I’m black
Why were all these homosexuals driving toyota hiluxes around sandland back in 2015? Was it just for branding or is that model of car easier to maintain?
Bit of both, plus for a period people were shipping utility vehicles to that region like crazy. Anyone have the photo of the hilux with "Bill's Painting" or something on the side complete with phone number, sporting an anti-aircraft gun?
No this is something new. It feels like the UFO skepticist crowds of the 90s but instead of operating with very tenuous real sources they're hooked up to a fire hose of artificially generated bullshit.
The modern internet is nothing like what we wanted it to be. This generation was supposed to have unlimited access to authentic information. Now it's just TikTok and Telegram since big corporations clamped down on any "misuse" of their "copyright" (translation: digitizing and making available books from any era). The closest thing to a decent encyclopedia of all known correct information is wikipedia and we know how fricking shit that place is.
Every other website takes down information at random, modifies it without warning, deletes or bans users for no reason. Did you hear that imgur is deleting all images uploaded by non-verified users? That's probably 10 years of internet history gone.
Like what's the alternative? To go up to a teenager (be real that's who is making the really dumb posts here) and tell them to spend $80 on a rare book about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? Do you really think most people will do that shit?
Found it
the man, the legend, Mark-1 Plumbing of Texas
>and tell them to spend $80 on a rare book about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?
or you could tell him to use libgen
>or you could tell him to use libgen
Who's gonna tell him...
look ugh im not supporting israel or ukraine
i know i know..........
ughhhahahaaaaa loool im just not gonna support ukraine or israel lol
>ow the edge.
absolutely nothing was edgy in my post tourist have a nice day
>wagner patch
edgy
>wagner x fog
literally moronic
interesting analysis kowalski, now post guns
>inb4 turkshit or poorshit
its still edgy and moronic
>no guns
all i needed to see, now back from where you came tourist banderite
now its just cringe
so what, has ISIS figured out that.. while glorious, 4k videos of brutal executions weren't actually getting them anywhere from a combat standpoint, and so they are stepping up their actual fighting game?
Wow…Wagner is just gettting it’s own ass served to it on a plate everywhere, ain’t it?
Would be funny if they start executing wagner pows with hammer kek
ISIS, our greatest ally.