Is this tent good?
Are trekking pole tents something to avoid or no
This one can purchase sticks separately too
Is this tent good? Are trekking pole tents something to avoid or no. This one can purchase sticks separately too
Is this tent good?
Are trekking pole tents something to avoid or no
This one can purchase sticks separately too
>Is it any good
for what type of use
>Are trekking pole tents bad
usually
>I can purchase the poles separate
I've never seen a trek-pole tent that came with trekking poles...
Sorry, usage is fit in my backpack and weigh very little so that I can carry it for enough miles into the woods to avoid people.
And I meant you can buy separately regular tent poles so that I don't have to always use trekking poles, I can pack the normal ones.
They even have a center one to make it free standing but I think that's unneeded
I am generally looking for a single layer tent because my double layer one is very bulky and takes up 5L of space
Single layer is definitely lighter and less bulky, but can have condensation issues. It’s different depending on your environment and how much dampness you’re ok with.
You can use regular collapsible tent poles on most trekking pole tents if you’re not using trekking poles. Most good manufactures offer it as an option, or you can buy a tent pole kit from wherever. DAC manufactures the gold standard of tent poles, or you can pay a fraction of the price for cheap ones from Amazon.
Trekking pole tents:
>very light
>generally good quality control (often made/sold by cottage companies)
>minimalist
Free standing tents
>heavier
>nearly always double layer
>generally more expensive for something decent
Both have advantages and disadvantages, and trekking pole tents often differ from one another. Some are single wall and some are double, some use one pole and some use two, and so on.
The one you posted sets up more like a tarp than a tent. It’s single walled and not very breathable, so condensation can be an issue. It’s also fairly small at 200cm (6’ 5”) long and 100cm (3’ 4”) tall. 20d polyester is pretty thin, especially for the floor.
Montbell makes great stuff but this doesn’t look too good.
>Trekking poles tents good quality
lol
lamo
>Not selecting a tent based on usage
>Word salid that is largely devoid of useful information and nit actually helpful.
ah, i see, you're moronic.
Sorry for the word salid. OP didn’t really get into specifics, just “are they good.” You didn’t actually add anything to the conversation.
>trekking pole tents bad
Oh ok. I’m convinced now. Thanks.
>OP didn't give enough information to give useful feedback
>Gives feedback anyways
I was the one asking what they were going to use the tent for. I also implied that just because it's a trekking pole tent doesn't mean it's good quality--sorry, I'll spell it out more obviously next time for the ESL students and slow kids.
If you're primarily using it in a wooded area why not just get a poncho and use it as a tarp in the rain--or skip the tent completely and just get a bivey.
Almost everything advertised as "ultra light" is going to be over priced.
I gave general info dipshit
>calls others ESL
>”salid”
>I gave enough information
no, you didn't. Feel bad about being moronic.
>Doesn't know how to greentext
>Has never used a bivey
you, also, need to feel bad about being moronic.
You didn’t post similar products that aren’t overpriced, and you don’t know what condensation is. Please leave the board. We can tell you’re talking out of your ass.
This is an English speaking board--please use English because even through google translate your post is nonsensical gibberish in any language.
>Almost everything advertised as "ultra light" is going to be over priced.
Can you post examples of similar products that are reasonably priced?
>just get a bivy
>what is “condensation?”
>If you're primarily using it in a wooded area why not just get a poncho and use it as a tarp in the rain--or skip the tent completely and just get a bivey.
hey look
another "everyone lives the same place as me" moron
dry climate edition!
i'd like to see you use a poncho or tarpless bivy as your primary shelter in an area with over 100' average yearly rainfall. using where i live as an example. if you don't know what climate OP lives in and if your suggestions are appropriate ask first before simultaneously being dismissive and making the dumbest post in the entire thread.
>over 100 feet of rain per year
Yeah, I guess it'd be pretty hard to stay dry on the bed of lake Michigan
lmao whoops
thats a bivy tent. also known as a hooped bivy, bivy shelter, or swag depending on where you live.
typically when people use the word "bivy" on its own they're referring to bivy sacks with no hoops or structure. anon's bivy here
is a good example of one.
but yeah its a bivy.
this anon pretty much described my 3 season shelter setup.
works great, ultralight as frick, versatile as frick, no condensation, and best of all cheap.
bit of a learning curve but if you got trees in your yard or a park nearby and youtube you can figure it out.
maybe i'll take a pic but the last thing i'm thinking about in the woods is my phone.
>trekking pole tent
Never heard of it. Sounds like garbage.
Affordable trekking pole tents would be either Paraiah Outdoors Arches or the LanShan (I’m not sure if it has a specific model name). Both are around $160, I think. They’re supposedly reasonably well made, but not on par with something like a Durston X-Mid or even the REI trekking pole tent (I think it’s called the Flash, or is that their backpack?).
banana shit, if you need a tent like this why don't you just stitch together a piss of nylon tarp only cost you 20$ instead of 179$ big difference, also ur gay and that tent is pussy repellant and probably dick repellent 2
when i see you in this tent (i will see u) i will piss on ur tent and leave rubbish at ur camps site
might as well just do a tarp + bug bivy combo instead since its gonna be lighter and cheaper anyways, i would only use trekking poles if you're above the treeline because you can find sticks in a forest or just attach the tarp ends to a tree. if theres no rain or wind you can use the bug bivy only its much more comfy that way
Nah I want a normal tent I can close and have all my gear inside and use a proper bed in
I've thought about tarp based stuff but it just sounds miserable in the wet and cold.
Since I usually camp at or below 0°c that would be aids.
SixMoonDesigns scout is another option for cheap trekking pole tents (thought i think its very heavy at 2.4lbs + trekking poles), but i would only get a trekking pole tent if you are actually using the trekking pole most of the time, if you factor in the weight of the tent + trekking poles its usually around or sometimes even heavier than freestanding tents. good luck in your search though.
eh, I'm not but also what I really want is a freestanding normal non-cucktube tent, the kind that has enough room to sit up straight in and stuff, but is just one layer.
The one I have now and every one I can find all have massive see through mesh parts and a second layer to cover it. It's dumb and takes up twice as much space in my pack, can't for the life of me find a freestanding tent that fits these perfectly reasonable requirements. This in the op was the first thing I found, and is technically freestanding with extra pieces.
I like the idea of using trekking poles though but I'll look like a wiener with them and a 20l pack
Just get a Durston x-mid
There are generic aluminum poles as well. You don’t need to use trekking poles with a non-freestanding tent. But this thread is full of Europeans who just don’t know any better.
179 for a neon single walled tent with no poles?
It must be really easy to make money off you guys.
take the tarp and bivy pill, pussy
I see a tarp, a polycro ground sheet, and two sleeping bags in an image you found on Google.
what do you see now?
bonus points: tell me how much it all weighs
…ok? This doesn’t somehow make a bivy appear in the first image. What’s the point of showing this?
Also it’s two different tarps.
If you can't figure this out then you're basically fricked for life lmao
Looks wet at the feet area
LARPing homosexual detected. Both images are taken directly from Borah Gears website.
I see these and my first thought is bugs crawling onto me when I'm sleeping. Freaks me out.
They make bivies with bug nets where your face hole goes. I do most of my bivy camping when it's cold and the bugs have mostly gone to their florida homes for the winter, but this year I want to do some summer shit, so bug net it is.
Pic is a closeup of what’s under the tarp in the second pic (from Borah Gear). It’s a DWR coated nylon (“breathable” but you know how that goes) with a 0.7oz netting over the face and a waterproof 20d silpoly floor. They also make one that’s all netting instead of nylon. Weighs like 5 or 6 ounces, depending on the material and the size. Since it’s water repellent it’s made to be used with a tarp, while preventing any small rain splashed that might otherwise get to you.
Pretty neat. The only downside is that you’re exposed to insects unless you’re lying down. So sitting up at night to treat your feet, review maps, read, or whatever else isn’t really doable. But I mean, it seems like a small trade off. You have insect repellent and a few bugs won’t really hurt you, but being crawled on and bitten all night might be a problem.
The whole thing is like 16oz. and $200, maybe a little more depending on options.
Tarp camping would be great if bugs didn't exist, but they do.
>inb4 just sleep with a bug net on your head bro
Frick no. And if you bring a tarp and a groundsheet and a bivvy then what the frick are you doing just bring a trekking pole tent.
I got to thinking about the tarp, bug net, and ground sheet combo and I thought of a few reasons why someone else might do it.
>as part of a modular hammock system
That’s why I personally have this setup. I hike in areas that are perfect for a hammock, but I took a trip to Big Bend and wasn’t going to drop a few hundred on a tent.
>a fun DIY project
A tarp is much easier to make than a tent. If you screw up a tent, it can be flappy or even leaky. If you screw up a bug net it’s not that big of a deal. Plus it’s fun.
>Europeans with few options
Am I wrong? There don’t seem to be that many European companies making ultralight tents.
>cheaper
Everything kind of ties into this, sort of. There aren’t many cheap, ultralight tents out there. And with a cheap tent, you have more possible failure point than a cheap tarp. You can find Chinese tarps and bug bivys on Amazon now, whereas maybe 5 years ago there were very few options. And they’re dirt cheap; I’ve seen them for $20. A decent nylon or polyester tarp from a reputable manufacturer is, what, $100? I know Dutchware has a bonded Xenon tarp for $135, which is like an ultra-premium new material thing that isn’t dyneema so it’s still moderately priced. Combine it with literally any $50 bug net and you’re under $200 and like 24oz, and that’s a huge benefit of the doubt.
You could probably do it for much lighter and cheaper. I just search and found a tarp by Boarh Gear, made in Montana. 70”x108”, $68, 7.2oz. Their bug bivy is 5.3oz and $84. So 12.5oz (354g) for $152 USD + tip (143 Euros).
Take the bug bivy pill.
Looks wet at the feet area
yeah it was, not sure what caused it but it was only on the outside so whatever, didnt notice the down being affected from it
this tent is for emergency bivouac
get a proper ones if you wanted it to last
Is there a tent for lazy morons like me that don't want to spend half their day setting up a tent? I thought for sure there was a market for tents that just fold out in 2 seconds that you can stake to the ground to secure, but I haven't run into any online.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B000P9GZGE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been using this tent since 2014. You have to seam seal all the stitching yourself but setup takes about 2 minutes tops. Stake your 4 corners and then stake your guylines for the poles out. I highly recommend this style of tent. Set it up facing the wind in hot weather as they get hot. My tent with the provided poles weighs 1300 grams which is fine with me; the floor is strong enough that my dog sleeps in there with me and hasn't punctured it with her claws yet. There are cheaper ones than this ofc, you can get these for like $50.
https://www.tarptent.com/product/moment-dw/
This takes a little more than 2 seconds, about a minute.
Yea, the tents from tarptent are pretty neat. I have the stratospire. It's more difficult to set up than most freestanding tents but pretty light if you use trekking poles anyway, and holds up well in shitty weather. Only issue is that you need good placement for your stakes, otherwise you can't set it up correctly.
I’m going to try out the moment dw this spring for dualsport motorcycle camping. upgrading from an old eureka backcountry, I wanted a vestibule.
Moment dw looks great as well. I was thinking about getting something for 2 people since I often go camping with my girlfriend. I lean towards a freestanding tent though, since it makes a bit more sense in an alpine environment (we go climbing). I don't think tarptent makes anything in that direction unfortunately..
Incredible campsite anon
Thanks, that was near Trondheim in Norway. Lovely night
This is comfy as hell. Do you bump into many people?
On that hike yes, it's near a popular trail next to a city. The spot was very secluded though.
The X-Mid is pretty quick. It’s not free standing so you have to stake it down first. Then you insert your poles. That’s pretty much it if you keep the bug net in place.
Of course there are more adjustments, but in calm weather it looks pretty fast.
What you're looking for is a pop up tent. The really aren't designed for hiking tho.
https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000014781-2-Person-Pop-Up-Tent/dp/B00FGPY9CE/
I own 2 trekking pole tents: Black Diamond Distance and Durston X-mid. I also have an MSR Hubba Hubba (2-wall tent pole tent).
The trekking pole tents weigh less. Obvious benefit. The X-mid is 2-wall, with the benefits that go along with it (good ventilation, less condensation issues). The x-mid is kind of cramped in the inner tent though - you can fit your pad but that's it. There's plenty of room under the outer shell though.
The Black Diamond Distance is a single wall enclosed tent (think like a large garbage bag with a zipper) and has obvious condensation issues unless you pitch it just right against the wind. It's roomy inside, but the lack of an outer wall means all your gear goes inside, unless you want some of it sitting out exposed to the elements. Muddy shoes etc could be an issue. It's a tad lighter than the x-mid though. For some reason I really like it despite its flaws, and on several occasions have I found myself struggling to make it work, just because when it works, it's pretty good.
is this a bivvy?
that is not a bivvy. that's some hilleburg tunnel tent
Yeah, it can be a problem for people who actually sleep outside. I guess you wouldn’t know that.
The condensationlet fears the based chad tarp camper
The one guy in this thread talking big about tarps was caught copying images from a manufacturers website.
>what is an example
>anyone who doesn't take insta pics of their camps doesn't actually camp
Yeah, that’s all it was. Right.
Did he say that it was his setup?
>hey you googled that pic!
>”oh yeah? Well what about THIS pic? Guess how much it weighs!”
Seems pretty implied that it’s his setup.
Looked like he was trying to point out that it was a tarp/bivy setup, but people weren't getting it, so he posted more than one picture. He likely mentioned weight because the thread is about trekking pole tents, which are an UL obsession. He made no implication that the pictures were his.
That's basically what I meant when I posted
It is weird to use stock images as an example when you could just post your gear in use though.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't always take pictures of my setup; I avoid fricking with my phone as much as possible when I'm /out.
Yeah same. Stock pictures are easier than plugging in SD cards from the pile I have. I really need to itemise my shit.
Unsure if it's helps but atlas sells 2-piece lock jaw trekking poles for $20 and they're really sturdy and rigid if a bit heavy. I recommend them.
I love Montbell stuff, but the few extra grams for their stelleridge 1 person is worth it. Over any of these ultralight hiking pole tents, no matter the maker.