Is this smart or retarded. My guitar strings are way too far away from the frets

Is this smart or moronic
My guitar strings are way too far away from the frets

One of my cheap guitars has bow in it and I don't know what to do

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not that much different than what a luthier does.
    Why is it bowed? Did it get wet?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My mother bought it 4 years ago and was scammed
      It was bowed when she bought it and it has gotten worse over the years

      I showed to my father but he suddenly knows everything about guitars now and said there is nothing wrong with it
      I switched to this now
      I didn't ask him for help he wanted to see it I showed him the problem and he said NO THERE IS NOTHING WRONG
      I told him don't yell I don't give a shit I didn't ask for you to help me but it is bent
      He said NO IT IS NOT
      I asked what do you know about guitars then he told me to frick off
      I wish I were dead or wish other people were dead

      • 1 month ago
        Sieg

        That’s how boomers are for some reason

        The truth is he doesn’t know ;most boomers don’t know much about anything) and he’s embarrassed to not know and feels like less of a man it’s not personal

        My dad is just like that and he does stupid shit with tools and buys cheap tools and used to yell at me like that when I was a kid whe I was able to do stuff he was t able to. Like come in and fix the sink he was cursing at etc

        I got a job working on cars then later in production and machining early in college and he kept telling me I was doing everything wrong despite him not knowing what I was doing

        I noticed that a lot of stupid people or uninformed people are quick to tell you that you’re always wrong and they have absolutely zero skills in anything

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Have you ever considered the fact that you are just an insufferable c**t if even your own father can't stand you?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you troll all boards, or just this one, you fricking self hating pos? Do us all a favor and kys.

        • 1 month ago
          OP

          Yeah maybe maybe it's my fault when I move out and work I can say I have a right not to be yelled at I'm underage though so it's hard to do that

          Have you ever considered the fact that you are just an insufferable c**t if even your own father can't stand you?

          Maybe

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you not on a guitar forum?
        Specialty questions should be answered by experts.

        That’s how boomers are for some reason

        The truth is he doesn’t know ;most boomers don’t know much about anything) and he’s embarrassed to not know and feels like less of a man it’s not personal

        My dad is just like that and he does stupid shit with tools and buys cheap tools and used to yell at me like that when I was a kid whe I was able to do stuff he was t able to. Like come in and fix the sink he was cursing at etc

        I got a job working on cars then later in production and machining early in college and he kept telling me I was doing everything wrong despite him not knowing what I was doing

        I noticed that a lot of stupid people or uninformed people are quick to tell you that you’re always wrong and they have absolutely zero skills in anything

        Boomers children are old today. The last boomer was born in 1965. OPbeing underage xirs paternal parent is wildly unlikely to be a boomer. Precise speech is key to precise thinking. Sloppy speech begets sloppy thinking, a common disease.

        Yeah maybe maybe it's my fault when I move out and work I can say I have a right not to be yelled at I'm underage though so it's hard to do that

        [...]
        Maybe

        Consider all this useful experience. Learn how to find information very, very efficiently before escaping as most people even yung ones don't really know how to use the internet. Since you like music it will benefit you greatly to study in detail every aspect of guitars and having a junk one to experiment with is an opportunity to learn.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >claims boomers were born in 1965
          >starts to blather about "precise thinking"
          The irony.

          • 1 month ago
            Sieg

            Boomers didn’t fight in ww2 kid, greatest generation did, that’s the name for boomers parents

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              ^This but looking that up would have been a bridge too far.

              1964/5 was the end of that boom as by then the returning vets had established families and were middle aged. For example a vet b. 1925 and discharged in '45/'46 would have had two decades to start a family and been 40 thus mostly done breeding by 1965.

              Zoomers being neglected by Gen X parents missed out on history and math so here we are.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are you 100% sure your guitar doesn't have a truss rod? It'll either be under a little cover on the headstock, or from the sound hole in the body. What you are doing isn't going to make a bit of difference...

    • 1 month ago
      OP

      It's a shitty guitar made in Egypt there is no truss rod

      Why are you not on a guitar forum?
      Specialty questions should be answered by experts.

      [...]
      Boomers children are old today. The last boomer was born in 1965. OPbeing underage xirs paternal parent is wildly unlikely to be a boomer. Precise speech is key to precise thinking. Sloppy speech begets sloppy thinking, a common disease.

      [...]
      Consider all this useful experience. Learn how to find information very, very efficiently before escaping as most people even yung ones don't really know how to use the internet. Since you like music it will benefit you greatly to study in detail every aspect of guitars and having a junk one to experiment with is an opportunity to learn.

      Thank you brother life has been a Rollercoaster and in still in the tutorial the game must be 200x more insane

      An acoustic guitarr will fold on itself it's a thing and corrected by filing down the bridge, when that's not enough you do a a neck reset.
      What you're doing won't help, it will spring back.
      First check the back of the bridge to see if it's coming unglued then with a level on the fretboard check the underbow and where it hits the bridge

      I'm not in the position to file down a guitar
      I can do woodwork but I don't have the tools at hand
      I used a drill and multiple drill bits with a wood screw and bolt to make a knob at the bottom of the guitar so I can hookup the stretch band

      I have a drill an assortment of drill bits and file bits

      you know the neck of the guitar has something called a truss rod you can adjust...

      Not all of them do and this one doesn't

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't have the tools at hand
        literally just low grit sandpaper. Take off your strings and file down the nut and/or the saddle. This is basic guitar shit. Don't destroy your instrument like a Black person caveman you dumb homosexual

        • 1 month ago
          OP

          What do you mean by file down the bridge
          Picrel is what the guitar is doing

          are the body and neck curved together or just the neck? if its just the neck your clamp position is incorrect.

          Neck thanks clamps seem like the best option

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            post a side profile of the guitar with the strings on so we can see exactly what you're dealing with

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm hardly a guitar expert, but that really doesn't seem like much of a bow. The action looks too high at the nut and maybe the bridge too. You want a bit of bow to begin with.

                You want to measure the string height at the 12th fret when you push down at the first fret. It should be about 1.9mm on the high string, and 2.8mm on the low string. If it is, the nut is too high. If it's higher, the bridge might be too high.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your picture is a backwards bow my guitar has a front facing bow

                It's unplayable

                I'm honestly thinking of turning it into a buzuq

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You mean the bow is concave, not convex? Because it sure looks convex. Or you don't know how to rotate objects in your head, which is very scary in itself.

                If you press down the string at the first fret, what is the string height at the 12th fret? This is a simple test, you do have a ruler, right? If you have some picks of different thicknesses you can use them as feeler gauges.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Okay that nut looks fricking ridiculously tall.
                Show bridge height.
                And two people

                First off, did you put metal strings on a classical guitar? Because that will definitely frick your bow up.

                Did you put steel strings on it?

                have asked already are you using steel strings?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >file down the nut

          Tell me you have no fricking clue how adjusting guitar neck bow and action works without saying "I have no fricking clue how adjusting guitar neck bow and action works".

          Only nuts you should concern yourself with are deez nuts.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        OP, to answer Q, to unwarp a neck on that type of guitar you can take off the fretboard (carefully pry it off), get the neck level, then glue it back on. The reglued fret board will keep it straight.
        I've done this before on a warped neck to fix it, required a bunch of clamps and something straight. I used a 2"x2" piece of square steel tube with a notch for the bridge when I did it.
        The other way, reseting the neck at body is a famously complicated process that most repair luthiers will refuse to attempt. And it won't address a neck that's actually warped.

        >I can do woodwork but I don't have the tools at hand
        Then you can't do woodwork.
        I don't get why ppl come here to talk about issues when they don't have access to tools to actually fix the thing.
        Just throw it away and buy a new one. Someone like me will come grab it off the curb and fix it.

        Okay that nut looks fricking ridiculously tall.
        Show bridge height.
        And two people [...] [...]
        have asked already are you using steel strings?

        Agree. This

        https://i.imgur.com/flOVwpT.jpg

        is a bad pic but that nut looks super tall. I can't tell if the neck's actually warped from the pic.
        Those look like nylon strings to me but impossible b/c OP can't focus his camera.
        But ofc OP can't actually bother to get a file or piece of sandpaper to file bridge or nut b/c OP is no tools / no money.
        > t. always pick up guitars off curb to fix when found. Everything from missing strings / poor setup, to bridges completely torn off the body.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >nut looks super tall
          Oh, and on that topic OP: press finger down between 1st and 2nd fret, then press down on top of first fret. There should be virtually no gap (like, paper thin gap) between string and first fret. If there's a gap, file the string slot, unless they are all high, then file down the whole nut instead.

        • 1 month ago
          OP

          Thank you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            post a frontal shot so we can see the strings

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >post a frontal shot

              blue board

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >

        you know the neck of the guitar has something called a truss rod you can adjust...


        >Not all of them do and this one doesn't
        did you check inside the body, where the neck is attached? some acoustics have them there.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    An acoustic guitarr will fold on itself it's a thing and corrected by filing down the bridge, when that's not enough you do a a neck reset.
    What you're doing won't help, it will spring back.
    First check the back of the bridge to see if it's coming unglued then with a level on the fretboard check the underbow and where it hits the bridge

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >filing down the bridge,
      Saddle

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you know the neck of the guitar has something called a truss rod you can adjust...

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did you put steel strings on it?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    are the body and neck curved together or just the neck? if its just the neck your clamp position is incorrect.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They warp from being strung tight setting too long
    t. 5 string picker

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >My guitar strings are way too far away from the frets

    Great now you have a slide guitar.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have you looked on the Internet somewhere besides PrepHole(nel)? Damn dude, if this isn't bait you're a fricking idiot. I guess that makes this bait then, so I'm the idiot, but still... Damn. You can bend guitar necks. You can possibly take them apart and shim them to a better angle. You can throw pieces of shit away and get a better one if nothing else. Go do some actual digging, shit.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I doubt this will do anything once you remove the clamp

    There's a crazy video on youtube of a guy making a cut through heel/body joint from the back, up to (but not through) the fretboard and then resetting the angle of the neck. kindof crazy but if you're competent with wood and not afraid to frick up the guitar you could try that

    • 1 month ago
      OP

      Yeah thats what I was thinking of doing
      I'm not competent but I know a good carpenter maybe he could hahaha

      You can try dampening the neck or humidifying it then when it dries it will be more prone to retaining the shape you're encouraging. I really have no idea how much water to impregnate. I just know that changes in temperature and wood moisture can really rearrange some lumber.

      I thought about it but it seemed like too much which I don't have time for

      I will try it before doing this

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can try dampening the neck or humidifying it then when it dries it will be more prone to retaining the shape you're encouraging. I really have no idea how much water to impregnate. I just know that changes in temperature and wood moisture can really rearrange some lumber.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First off, did you put metal strings on a classical guitar? Because that will definitely frick your bow up.

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