Rotate the picture and repost it in a "stupid question that don't deserve their own thread" thread. They are always up on this board and are better for these one off questions
>I mean is this safe
If you mean the glass “railing” or whatever you call it, it depends.
There have been multiple incidents of people falling or pushing against glass railings of that sort, where the glass broke causing the person or people to fall thru what was supposed to be a protective railing.
One of the incidents happened in Philadelphia, right after a new Sports Stadium was built, and some guy walking down the steps, tripped, and fell thru the railing, and then got sued by the stadium owners for breaking the railing.
In most uses the glass will be fine for safety, although the top glass edge eon’t actually provide much in the way of hand grip.
Are you talking about the (thick, laminated) glass "railing", or the fact that the actual railing doesn't go the full lenght of the stairs (yeah, that's pretty unsafe)?
Ok, I just tried pusning it and it seems pretty sturdy.
Its just that its my house and my aunt is doing the interior, i would never choose something like this on my own.
Could two semi grown up kids (12) break this and fuck themselves up with the glass?
I'm guessing the same way you apparently don't know what laminated glass is, or that tempered glass alone is unsuitable for that kind of safety railing on stairs.
>The best type of glass for stairs is the tempered (toughened) laminated glass with a minimum thickness of 21,5 mm or 27/32 inches. This type of glass is used in the manufacturing of both steps and railings or balustrades.
>This is the safest type of glass available for stairs. We use it in manufacturing all our domestic and commercial staircases to comply with building regulations.
>For the Glass Staircase Railings and Glass Balustrades we use tempered laminated glass panels of 21.52 mm. The panels are produced with two glass layers of 10 mm held by a pvc film of 1.52 mm when the balustrade is frameless, with no posts.
If it's just plain annealed glass that's laminated it would break in long running cracks radiating from the point of impact, the way a windshield does.
Safer than the same glass when it's not laminated, but still a potential laceration problem if you go into it hard...the reason they don't temper windshields on top of laminati g them is because tempered obscures instantly when it breaks, which is more dangerous than a bunch of long cracks, especially if it's just a rock or something that causes it.
But cut potential aside, annealed glass is far easier to break to begin with than tempered glass, so doing both prevents having to replace those stair partitions all the time because someone banged into them with something.
I would worry most about kits running around the house and somehow running into the corner of the glass towards the bottom. Kids will hurt themselved either way, nothing is really safe, but it’s a potential expensive repair compared to normal wooden handrail.
>The rail is on the right. Maybe it meets a code standard as well.
Graspable hand rails are required once you get more than 30" up or at the fourth tread. You are also required to have some kind of railing (36" residential, 42" commercial) with balusters that meets the 4" sphere rule.
I don't think the 4" sphere goes though glass unless you throw it, however you don't have any risers. There's a railing on the other side. I still wouldn't build this without permit and someone else signing off.
Huh...
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/china-zhangjiajie-glass-bridge-closed/index.html
And before muh chyna:
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/gatlinburg-skybridge-crack-trnd/index.html
The big problem is if someone puts their weight against the top of the glass. That's a lot of fucking leverage on the attachments at the bottom, and assuming (praying) that shit is tempered- the instant there's a failure point, the entire pane turns to dust.
It's fine but will obviously fall apart in extreme cases. It is likely laminated so won't cut you up if you for some reason wanna shatter it with a body slam.
from a looks standpoint, I'd prefer something simpler like pic related. Expensive materials
Nope. The glass isn't load-bearing, the stringers are the critical part. Glass that thick would be impossible to break. My only concern would be keeping it clean.
Yep, it is dumb. I'm going to shit on your zestimate when it comes to market and yes, I will rip it out immediately and post it on social media for the lulz get better taste for fuck sake, it's a house built in the 60's for the middle class, not a club, you persian idiot. You reek of cologne
paranoia in here fr how is it unsafe just don't be a retard
if it's built properly it will never suddenly break you could take most of those bolts out before it would even wobble much less fall out
you're talking minimal maintenance
just don't lean on it
Yes.
>image on its side
fucking OP
It sure is. Setting stairs horizontally like that is ridiculous, can't even climb them
I mean is this safe
Rotate the picture and repost it in a "stupid question that don't deserve their own thread" thread. They are always up on this board and are better for these one off questions
Just say yes or no. Its looks retarted but everyone seems to be in agreement thats its normal.
Sure I guess as long as you can go up the stairs
Just don't fall down, dickhead.
>I mean is this safe
If you mean the glass “railing” or whatever you call it, it depends.
There have been multiple incidents of people falling or pushing against glass railings of that sort, where the glass broke causing the person or people to fall thru what was supposed to be a protective railing.
One of the incidents happened in Philadelphia, right after a new Sports Stadium was built, and some guy walking down the steps, tripped, and fell thru the railing, and then got sued by the stadium owners for breaking the railing.
In most uses the glass will be fine for safety, although the top glass edge eon’t actually provide much in the way of hand grip.
Are you talking about the (thick, laminated) glass "railing", or the fact that the actual railing doesn't go the full lenght of the stairs (yeah, that's pretty unsafe)?
looks like a perfect place to die
I have a 250lbs cousin. He could easily break this by just leaning on it while drunk right?
looks very nice.
Ok, I just tried pusning it and it seems pretty sturdy.
Its just that its my house and my aunt is doing the interior, i would never choose something like this on my own.
Could two semi grown up kids (12) break this and fuck themselves up with the glass?
how do you not know what tempered glass is.
>how do you not know what tempered glass is.
I'm guessing the same way you apparently don't know what laminated glass is, or that tempered glass alone is unsuitable for that kind of safety railing on stairs.
>The best type of glass for stairs is the tempered (toughened) laminated glass with a minimum thickness of 21,5 mm or 27/32 inches. This type of glass is used in the manufacturing of both steps and railings or balustrades.
>This is the safest type of glass available for stairs. We use it in manufacturing all our domestic and commercial staircases to comply with building regulations.
>For the Glass Staircase Railings and Glass Balustrades we use tempered laminated glass panels of 21.52 mm. The panels are produced with two glass layers of 10 mm held by a pvc film of 1.52 mm when the balustrade is frameless, with no posts.
https://www.granddesignstairs.com/glass-for-stairs/
>brakes
What if...just what if...we made it entirely out of the laminate material?
If it's just plain annealed glass that's laminated it would break in long running cracks radiating from the point of impact, the way a windshield does.
Safer than the same glass when it's not laminated, but still a potential laceration problem if you go into it hard...the reason they don't temper windshields on top of laminati g them is because tempered obscures instantly when it breaks, which is more dangerous than a bunch of long cracks, especially if it's just a rock or something that causes it.
But cut potential aside, annealed glass is far easier to break to begin with than tempered glass, so doing both prevents having to replace those stair partitions all the time because someone banged into them with something.
>can my kids fuck themselves up?
So its tempered glass, which is my point.
It's NOT just tempered glass, it's laminated so it still holds together in a sheet if the glass blows up.
Tempered glass has zero resistance to something passing right through it once it shatters, and is unsuitable for a safety barrier.
how much did those stairs cost you?
>Could two semi grown up kids (12) break this
If they tried
>uck themselves up with the glass?
It's almost undoubtedly "safety" glass, so no.
I would worry most about kits running around the house and somehow running into the corner of the glass towards the bottom. Kids will hurt themselved either way, nothing is really safe, but it’s a potential expensive repair compared to normal wooden handrail.
You have to be 18 to post here, kid. Get the fuck out.
why have the glass/acrylic at all?
It looks simply decorative. The rail is on the right. Maybe it meets a code standard as well.
>decorative
Something that ugly cannot be called decorative.
>The rail is on the right. Maybe it meets a code standard as well.
Graspable hand rails are required once you get more than 30" up or at the fourth tread. You are also required to have some kind of railing (36" residential, 42" commercial) with balusters that meets the 4" sphere rule.
I don't think the 4" sphere goes though glass unless you throw it, however you don't have any risers. There's a railing on the other side. I still wouldn't build this without permit and someone else signing off.
Open stairs = not code.
Looks great if you're into fingerprints
Is it dangerous? Probably not. Certainly no more so than a normal stair banister the kids will stick their arms and heads through.
Is it ugly? Ye
Is it expensive? Probably. If it wasn't maybe #1 is not safe.
Huh...
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/china-zhangjiajie-glass-bridge-closed/index.html
And before muh chyna:
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/gatlinburg-skybridge-crack-trnd/index.html
Shouldn't the car have blue tires?
Xc90 sits pretty high, it's a euro SUV
>Slip
>Fall not into railing but into glass
>Glass gets torqued and breaks with you landing on it
That sounds hilarious and awful.
The big problem is if someone puts their weight against the top of the glass. That's a lot of fucking leverage on the attachments at the bottom, and assuming (praying) that shit is tempered- the instant there's a failure point, the entire pane turns to dust.
>The big problem is if someone puts their weight against the top of the glass.
It has to withstand a 500 lb point load at the top.
Is that static or dynamic? Either way 500lb of force isn't hard to generate
>Is that static or dynamic?
It doesn't matter. A point load at the top (36") can be generated in a multitude of ways (F = ma after all).
It's fine but will obviously fall apart in extreme cases. It is likely laminated so won't cut you up if you for some reason wanna shatter it with a body slam.
from a looks standpoint, I'd prefer something simpler like pic related. Expensive materials
the glass itself should be fine. don't know about the way it's mounted though. looks like a lot of punctual stress
Nope. The glass isn't load-bearing, the stringers are the critical part. Glass that thick would be impossible to break. My only concern would be keeping it clean.
Yep, it is dumb. I'm going to shit on your zestimate when it comes to market and yes, I will rip it out immediately and post it on social media for the lulz get better taste for fuck sake, it's a house built in the 60's for the middle class, not a club, you persian idiot. You reek of cologne
what's wrong with cologne anon?
Yes, stairs go on walls, not ceilings, you dumb nog
looks cool, unsafe and noisy
bro thats not glass is it
i hope you dont have dogs that like to use the stairs the same time as you
paranoia in here fr how is it unsafe just don't be a retard
if it's built properly it will never suddenly break you could take most of those bolts out before it would even wobble much less fall out
you're talking minimal maintenance
just don't lean on it
I agree with your premise, but my clients and their families are consistently stupid. I appreciate low insurance premiums and headache avoidance.
how do you move big pieces of furniture up and down these stairs
Break the glass?