will the wood material allow drilling picrel screws into it? What am I in for? I haven't done anything like this before.
Is this as easy as it looks?
will the wood material allow drilling picrel screws into it? What am I in for? I haven't done anything like this before.
What even are they? Also, just be sure to predrill with a bit about half the diameter of the screws
i'm trying to make a monitor stand for my desk, using an ikea shelf made of particleboard, and some aluminum feet that can be screwed onto furniture.
lol I'm used to installing things, just not making them.
Previously I thought 4 feet would be enough, but that was before learning how weak particle boards are.
Since almost everyone’s trolling:
> will the wood material allow drilling picrel screws into it
Yes can be done but particleboard splits easily. Predrill and don’t use your super torquey impact drill driver or try to torque them too hard. The screws are only to keep the feet from moving sideways anyway. There are special screws with smaller shafts and bigger threads for this material to give you a stronger connection without splitting.
If the screws are longer than 3/4 of the shelf thickness there may be a small ‘bump’ visible on the other side. That sucks so better go with like 15mm
It works wonders to put a drop of epoxy glue in the pre drilled hole before putting the screws, but it may make them difficult to remove. Another option is drill an even bigger hole, fill that with epoxy, predrill it and put the screws in that. Very strong connection, almost zero chance of splitting or stripping the hole but it’s more work
Try putting two sets of legs at 1/4 (so 30cm) from the sides. If you load it in the middle that should be about as strong as the 3 sets you have here
Thank you. Good advice.
if you're not applying shear forces to it, just use superglue gel to attach the legs.
i was thinking a glob of pl but whatever - double sided tape would likely be enough.
yep
It is, but I'm sure you'll find a way to frick it up. Have you used a screwdriver before?
use threaded inserts.
>not buying real wood for cheap
unless you are going take feet off constantly just tap the wood.
i would expect this shelf to be made the same way all ikea stuff is, its not a thick layer of board its two thin layers of board with paper honeycomb in the middle.
how is the shelf designed to be mounted?
desks have specific areas for mounting feet where a wood block is placed in construction to accept the screws.
i definitely wouldn't pilot drill anywhere near the normal size hole, definitely undersize if at all or its just chew out immediately.
> it's made of particle board + paper foil + plastic edging.
> the shelf itself is sold as is, with no mounting brackets or screw holes.
> i'm making it as a monitor stand
i'm trying to make a monitor stand for my desk, using an ikea shelf made of particleboard, and some aluminum feet that can be screwed onto furniture.
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lol I'm used to installing things, just not making them. to place some select objects on top of it. the stand itself is going on my desk.
i've seen other people do this same design because of its simplicity, but i know nothing about drilling into particle boards.
wouldn't it split the wood though? since they're too thick?
>will the wood material allow drilling picrel screws into it?
>What am I in for? I haven't done anything like this before.
you will probably die
i would consider putting double sided tape on the back of the foot before screwing it down, probably have more strength in that tape than those tiny screws into particleboard
You could always through-bolt the feet to the board, using flat head bolts so they sit flush with the surface. Then you wouldn't need to worry about the screws stripping out of the particle board, which happens very easily.
Given that it's going to be carrying only some 5kg load, if not less, it's going to be fine. Like other anon said, you should predrill the holes with a thin bit, something like 2mm (depending on the minor diameter of the screws).
Honestly just buy a real monitor arm. It's not 1997 anymore dude. Monitor shelves are mega gay. I recommend Ergotron.
I do use monitor arms, I'm trying to have this in combination with my current setup, since they look lavish when done right.
<<<< some examples
>they look lavish
I don't think you've chosen the right word to describe it.
alright. i'll stick to my limited vocabulary. they look "nice".
>It's not 1997 anymore dude
exactly, and monitors dont weigh 50+ pounds like they did back then either. most modern monitors are pretty light and even that shitty particleboard shelf should hold any modern monitor just fine.
its also made of thin wood panels and honeycomb paper filler. enjoy your ikea quality!
this, get a proper surface. those ikea table tops are fricking terrible.
No, it's a piece of particle board.
actually its pressed cardboard with a thin wood veneer on top and filled with paper honey comb filling. there is no actual wood in this
Just because some ikea stuff is made like that, doesn't mean all ikea stuff is made like that.
The shelf OP lists is made of particle board and can be cut to length. It is not made of honeycomb paper.
no shit sherlock, I wasnt referring to everything ikea, just saying some of the shit is just paper wrapped in cardboard and you have to be careful what you buy and know what materials its made of... stop sperging out tardlord
>I...I didn't mean the thing OP was talking about! I meant a different thing!
lol.
not that guy but you're a fricking cretin.
>i was talking about something completely unrelated to the thread
Frick off moron
MDF is heavier than plywood you can easily tell the weight difference betwen MDF and paper honeycombs
who said anything a bout the weight? were talking build quality you moron
Ikea tables are like a honeycomb cardboard inside, I use those real wide drywall type anchors in them
no shit... already said this and posted a pic of it here:
Normal screws straight in particle board never hold. Predrill larger, add matches and wood glue to create a denser spot for screws to bite into. Never failed me.
as a cabinetmaker i can confirm this is total fricking bullshit - screws in particle board are fine, even shitty ikea pb, and esp for op's application where there's no stress or sideways load on the feet, they have a large contact point etc...
predrill for sure and put them in by hand - measure the frickers too so you know you're not going to pop thru the top lol...