And shit to spot the enemy, a 1000 himars can flatten just about anything, but it's next to useless if you have no idea where your enemy is.
Pooland needs to invest in reconnaissance shit like radars and satellites.
Poland is getting all the HIMARs as conventional MAD, they don't need recon to go with them because the whole point is poweplants, ports, factories and refineries don't move and if Russia started shit with Poland all would burn in the opening hours.
Let's see if the UK or France could last a few hours let alone as long as Russia has against a Ukraine that is backed by the US + the entire free world, take out the US and Russia marches through London and Paris likely unopposed like the defense that France did during ww2 against a Germany that was clearly a second tier military that ultimately got steamrolled and mutted by the Russians
Talking about their navy, you illiterate mongrel. Do they not teach you how to read in India? The Russian navy is garbage, has always been garbage, and will always be garbage, and at no point in history was it ever the third best navy in the world.
>take out the US and Russia marches through London and Paris
You got btfo in Kyiv without western support kek >unopposed like the defense that France did during ww2 against a Germany
Battle of France had 50k+ dead on both sides in 1.5 months
Russia could force project between vladivostok and moscow and would be a greater distance than anything the uk or france has ever accomplished...ever...even including the falkland war where the uk almost lost to argentina lmfao, that's like almost going to a stalement with monaco or iceland
argentina is easily one the most stable nations in south american, and at the time was under a military junta, also both of those nations had large holdings in both asia and africa. Is this indian education at it's finest?
did you just say that russia's force projection is bigger than anything the UK has ever accomplished? This is the same UK that had the biggest empoire in the history of the world, right?
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Anonymous
> British Empire in a world with a few hundred million people and essentially one of commercial enterprise avoding every military force on the continent like the plague
Everything before the 2000s is kindergarten level tier, British Empire about as relevant as the Mongol Empire which was larger and actually built by crushing everybody in their path through primitive military force
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Everything before the 2000s is kindergarten level tier
The Russo-Ukrainian War started just last year. Russia can't even project power into their next door neighbor.
Replying again because of how silly the statement is. >Russia could force project between vladivostok and moscow and would be a greater distance than anything the uk or france has ever accomplished
"During its history, the United Kingdom's forces (or forces with a British mandate) have invaded, had some control over or fought conflicts in 171 of the world's 193 countries that are currently UN member states, or nine out of ten of all countries"
Seriously for sea Russia shouldn't even be on the list. Their ships were mostly shit when they were made and they've been plauged by accidents and poor maintenance. Add to that most of the commanders are probably incompetent yes men.
In 2021 Russia would be the clear #2 but they are realistically #3 today, they are taking on a Ukraine backed and supplied by the entire free world, keep in mind that even before all of the gibs to Ukraine that Ukraine was already a t20 military
china has realistically been ahead of russia in terms of military since 2010, thats not even considering their current efforts in ukraine. Russia couldnt even handle SK at this point
> backed and supplied by the entire free world
less than 10% of a single year of the US' military budget committed
less than 5% of a single year of the US' military budget in actual military aid vs. financial support
less than 2% of a single year of the US' military budget in aid delivered so far vs. promised aid
all of these figures based on US' military budget in 2021, among the lowest of record per percent - if the US increased back to Cold War spending the defense budget would over double
this doesn't address how 2/3rds of Europe has barely sent any aid to Ukraine, leaning heavily on the UK and Germany and Eastern Europe to do it instead
you are absolutely clueless (and gay)
Let's see if the UK or France could last a few hours let alone as long as Russia has against a Ukraine that is backed by the US + the entire free world, take out the US and Russia marches through London and Paris likely unopposed like the defense that France did during ww2 against a Germany that was clearly a second tier military that ultimately got steamrolled and mutted by the Russians
Russia could force project between vladivostok and moscow and would be a greater distance than anything the uk or france has ever accomplished...ever...even including the falkland war where the uk almost lost to argentina lmfao, that's like almost going to a stalement with monaco or iceland
You could honestly take Russia out of the top 10 at this point. Anything else would just be coping.
Two things can be true at the same time, Russia's early performance in Ukraine was disastrously bad, at the same time it's not like Germany or the UK would do much better in the long term.
I would rank them behind SK but they're still comfortably top 5 thanks to the absolute state of Europe.
>Is this accurate
"#3" is in a stalemate with #11 for months, besides the US on outspending everyone else combined i dont think people can make an accurate assessment
This list isn't bad actually, probably the least worst posted recently. The UK should not be so high overall though, as our army is absofrickinglutely tiny
What in the actual frick? Are these the kind of idiots that think that China has a better Navy than the US because they throw a flag on any piece of flotsam and call it a PLAN guided missile destroyer?
This. Other than their ballistic missiles they can't really force project but on the peninsula they have more ground firepower than all of Europe combined, all on land barely larger than the size of Hungary or Austria
Any modern military could inflict 100:1 losses against those starving asiatic morons. It'd be the roflstomp to end them all. We only haven't because they would flatten Seoul.
There are three reasons nobody invades the norks.
1) china doesn't want it
2) the insane amount of dumb tubes aimed at Seoul
3?) The humanitarian catastrophe of a bajilion starving and uneducated norks
Let's see if the UK or France could last a few hours let alone as long as Russia has against a Ukraine that is backed by the US + the entire free world, take out the US and Russia marches through London and Paris likely unopposed like the defense that France did during ww2 against a Germany that was clearly a second tier military that ultimately got steamrolled and mutted by the Russians
I like the asiatic shills they project and argue like a battered and abused women; they never directly say what they want to say and hide behind false topics.
ROK would glass Japan without breaking a sweat, ROK subs alone would not only sink the entire nip fleet would also turn tokyo in a firepit, remember korea with 1/10th the population and 13 armored ships sunk 1000+ japanese vessels without a single casualty in imjim war, imagine now that rok is decades ahead in miltech…
The funny thing is that the typical south korean looks at the typical jap the same way a western euro looks at sudacas for no other reason than the typical korean male is 178cm 80kg on average compared to the typical japanese male is 168cm 63kg on average, people just look down on manlets especially if its a race of pagan npcs
11 months ago
Anonymous
Did you know japanese are allergic to meat protein and dairy? These are the two staple foods in south korea compared to japan they eat rice and vegetables as staple foods
>without a single casualty
Even compared to all the other greatly exaggerated numbers, this ridiculous claim is on a league of its own. You really outdid yourself this time, huh?
The funny thing is that the typical south korean looks at the typical jap the same way a western euro looks at sudacas for no other reason than the typical korean male is 178cm 80kg on average compared to the typical japanese male is 168cm 63kg on average, people just look down on manlets especially if its a race of pagan npcs
Did you know japanese are allergic to meat protein and dairy? These are the two staple foods in south korea compared to japan they eat rice and vegetables as staple foods
asiatic cope and delusion at its finest
Not only does the JMSDF have far superior surface and submarine forces but they have the world's second largest ASW aircraft asset that doesn't appear in those displacement charts, which alone is capable of wiping out asiatic subs within a few hours. Not to mention the huge underwater submarine detection infrastructure even the US Navy in the region has counted on since Cold War era. asiatic subs have no chance of getting close enough to launch their shitty Iskander clones with ~500km range to Tokyo, and even if they could, that's nothing, considering how Ukies shoot down more Iskanders and Kinzhals like turkeys almost every day with the donated 2 Patriot batteries, and the JASDF alone operates 24 Patriot batteries.
Any real war between Japan and Korea will lead to yet another genocide of asiatics by samurai like the one where 1 million or a quarter of asiatic population were wiped out for the lulz in the 16th century which continues to cause you to run to the moronic cope naval myth. It's simply laughable that asiatics delude themselves into thinking they are in the same league as Japan or other chad great powers/former empires like UK, Germany, and France in military, technology, or anything, somehow looking down on hispanic, while you yourself are just as much of colonized rapebabies as them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
A real war between rok and japan would result in a genocide of japanese, the firepower and readiness gap is substantial even without getting into the least trained south korean civilian probably would qualify as an elite soldier in japan let alone the 300k elite world class soldiers in rok, it would look like a european power colonizing an african nation to include the genocide parts
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lol samurais averaged around 4'9" without exaggeration and only were able to win battles through overwhelming numbers, there are firsthand accounts from Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch sailors, who themselves were washouts in Europe generally the plebe underfed class, in groups of 20 or 30 killing over 1000+ samurai without taking any real casulties, it was as lopsided as what the Iberians did to the aztecs, incas and mayans
>gets conquered by superior people within weeks >gets massacred and raped by both invaders and rescue forces from suzerain >gets enslaved and sold to European traders
Such is the life of asiatic, literally Africa tier lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lol samurais averaged around 4'9" without exaggeration and only were able to win battles through overwhelming numbers, there are firsthand accounts from Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch sailors, who themselves were washouts in Europe generally the plebe underfed class, in groups of 20 or 30 killing over 1000+ samurai without taking any real casulties, it was as lopsided as what the Iberians did to the aztecs, incas and mayans
asiaticshill sisters... not like this
11 months ago
Anonymous
And yet 1 million Koreans ended up genociding the entire military forces of 30 million Japanese to include sinking the entire 1000+ vessel Japanese navy with 13 armored ships
Why are japanese so weak at war? The kill ratio between the US and Japan in ww2 was something like 50k to 3+ million lmfao
11 months ago
Anonymous
This guy was literally the genghis khan of the seas, the mongols had 100k soldiers on horseback and ended up conquering the known world, this guy had 13 armored ships and ended up sinking over 1000+ adversaries without a single ship lost
Genghis Khan = greatest military genius in humankind
Yi Sun Shin = greatest naval genius in humankind
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
This guy was literally the genghis khan of the seas, the mongols had 100k soldiers on horseback and ended up conquering the known world, this guy had 13 armored ships and ended up sinking over 1000+ adversaries without a single ship lost
Genghis Khan = greatest military genius in humankind
Yi Sun Shin = greatest naval genius in humankind
https://i.imgur.com/B6czhN8.png
Let's be realistic in a rare moment here, ROK would absolutely skullcrush Japan in a 1v1, its fortunate for Japan that relationships are strong due to shared anti-China sentiment
The rumor is that ROK is considering inviting Japan into the US-ROK nuclear sharing agreement that Biden and Yoon signed a few weeks ago as well, but US apparently is still opposed to it
https://i.imgur.com/T6flQux.jpg
>asiaticshill fails to face the official dynastic record, has a mental meltdown, and repeats the same asiatic nonsense
like clockwork lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
> weeb like clockwork
24/7/365, you never disappoint troony
Lmfao
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lol samurais averaged around 4'9" without exaggeration and only were able to win battles through overwhelming numbers, there are firsthand accounts from Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch sailors, who themselves were washouts in Europe generally the plebe underfed class, in groups of 20 or 30 killing over 1000+ samurai without taking any real casulties, it was as lopsided as what the Iberians did to the aztecs, incas and mayans
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Group of 20-30 Portuguese and Dutch sailors killed 1000 Samurai.
Citation needed.
Japan 34 F35As/Bs after one japanese pilot blacked out on a routine training flight, crash his F35, chinese/russians salvaged in the greatest F35 security breach of the past 50 years, and got himself killed in the process
ROK has something like 3x more F16s and purchased 240 KF21s, the gap between South Korea and after is cavernous and larger than the gap between the US and South Korea
Future orders are pointless as every country is claiming some ridiculous pipeline such as Canada with 100+ F35s, will believe it when it happens and how the F35 stacks up against whatever is the best available then
YOU are biased and lying asiaticshill.
Actually ROK doesn't have 40 operational F-35A but 39, because a crash-landed airframe hasn't been operational for more than a year, which is about to be junked as they can't afford repair costs that's $76 million lol
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2023/06/113_351540.html
https://eurasiantimes.com/crashed-trashed-f-35a-stealth-fighter-that-was-hit-by/
Even if they save it and place an additional order for 20 F-35A this year, the size of the fleet remains the same 40 until at least 2028, considering 4-5 year lead time.
Meanwhile in Japan, they are flying 37th airframe, meaning they have at least 36 airframes, taking into account the one lost to an accident, and new airframes are being assembled in the Komaki FACO as we speak, so it's safe to say their fleet will be bigger than ROK's by the end of the fiscal year.
Also, Japanese orders are very reliable, they've already paid for 83 (63 As and 20 Bs), invested like 15 F-35A worth of money in the FACO and MRO&U to build and maintain them locally, showing their commitment to F-35, and procurement is accelerating thanks to the new buildup program. Which is also why their orders are on the LM website while ROK's plan for another 20 isn't.
>blacked out on a routine training flight,
Why do you repeat this lie? It was spatial disorientation, something that has claimed hundreds of pilots lives INCLUDING KOREAN ONES
https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20161027010200315
If I were a disingenuous moron like you, I'd say that he blacked out on a routine flight. Instead, I understand the situation, because I have a three-digit IQ.
If you're gonna go there, then let's talk about Korean pilots and their tendency to die in training, shall we? https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2022/04/03/national/defense/KT1-crash-accident/20220403165053211.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/skorean-air-force-pilot-killed-after-fighter-jet-crashes-2022-01-11/
Go ahead, call me weeb. I don't even like Japan or Korea. It won't change shit.
When ROK has their nuclear submarines, aircraft carrier and unmanned carriers/submarines operational they will be above the UK and France and probably #2 or #3 on the combined ranking
I would move Germany to #7 or #8 on sea, German submarine technology is better than the UK or France even if Germany only does conventional and most certainly better than Japan, Italy, Spain, India, Turkey, Brazil
Japan has more destroyers but subs rule the day in the modern naval warfare doctrine
No they aren't. They are domestic designs. Soryuu uses a Swedish Engine, and Taigei uses an indigenous one after they deemed the German ones not stealthy enough.
Mongols force projected something like 100,000km+ on horseback 800 years ago if you followcthe circuitious paths they took, any nation can force project today, but only the us can force project millions of boots on the ground properly
>German sub tech is better than the UK or France >even if Germany only does conventional
Mutually exclusive. Diesel subs are inherently worse than nuclear, they shouldn't even be compared the gap is so large.
>Italy #8 at sea >#9 air >Not even top 20 on land >#10 combined
First of all, that math is broken.
Second, Italy should be at the bottom of all lists. The US could gift Italy every last piece of hardware they have, all 11 carriers stuffed with planes, all that shit, and all Italy would do with it is bomb themselves back into the Stone Age.
Italy sucks across the board always. With Italy, you lose.
Bong or kraut detected, Italy has a legit naval force and more F35s than the UK or Germany, remember who saved the bong pilot that almost died driving the F35B off a carrier deck? Yup, Italian navy, cope seethe and of course dilate
>Finland air
lol no, that's sweden. No "joint" airforces don't count. >Sweden not on air
the frick, they're famously dangerous, one of the biggest potential additions to NATO >finland not on land list
the strongest artillery force in europe, has mandatory conscription baked into their constitutions >russia in top 3 any category
They are genuinely not top 3 in any category on their own continent. >North Korea sea top 20
Midget 1st-gen submarines from the 40s and a bunch of brown water, low displacement trawlers seems impressive on paper if you've never seen an actual warship in person.
Russia has nuclear subs, if they wanted they could sit off the coast a few thousand kilometers away from an adversary and just start lobbing nukes, on the US has more, China, UK and France have this capability but at a far less inventory, North Korea claims it and probably has some makeshift version but irregardless can't challenge Russia's nuclear capabilities, that's it in the world today
1: USA
2: France
3: China
4-7: South Korea (Don't know which of these is better)
4-7: India
4-7: UK
4-7: Japan
8: Italy
9-11: Turkey
9-11: Brazil
9-11: AUS
Some of the options on the chart are odd. Israel, Norks, and Poland have no force projection capability. Egyptian army is large but of questionable competence. Thailand and Spain have better navies than Russia.
The list seems generally within the realm of possibilities other than France at 2 and Brazil at 9-11, France's coat of arms is the white flag while Brazil has the gripen as its best jet fighter
France is great at beating on african shitholles but the moment a continental military gives a mean mug the french invariably bend over a spread cheeks
France is great at beating on african shitholles but the moment a continental military gives a mean mug the french invariably bend over a spread cheeks
I was guessing at force projection rather than ability to defend and fight neighbors within easy reach of logistics. France is really a gamble, it's unclear how much of their experience in COIN would translate into war, but they do have a history of successful force projection.
And African shitholes have better commanders than Russians; Paul Kagame could have at least captured Hostomel, with the ghost of Hasan Djamous at least being able to get armored vehicles into Kiev.
They did a pretty good job tying up the RN during the American rebellion. La Royale has never been anything to laugh at, with the obvious exception of the inter-war years.
Let's be realistic in a rare moment here, ROK would absolutely skullcrush Japan in a 1v1, its fortunate for Japan that relationships are strong due to shared anti-China sentiment
The rumor is that ROK is considering inviting Japan into the US-ROK nuclear sharing agreement that Biden and Yoon signed a few weeks ago as well, but US apparently is still opposed to it
>Poland
>6th in land
Maybe once/if all their shit arrives, but all their new stuff is currently in production and not in the hands of the forces.
We lack AA, big time
And shit to spot the enemy, a 1000 himars can flatten just about anything, but it's next to useless if you have no idea where your enemy is.
Pooland needs to invest in reconnaissance shit like radars and satellites.
Can't Poland rely on US intel for anything they'd need to flatten anyway? These power metrics are fricked over by NATO.
Poland is getting all the HIMARs as conventional MAD, they don't need recon to go with them because the whole point is poweplants, ports, factories and refineries don't move and if Russia started shit with Poland all would burn in the opening hours.
HIMARS can fire ballistic missiles?
lmao at people still ranking Russia like it's 2021 and that they didn't just let their entire army wither away in Ukraine
Russia wasn't #3 at sea even in 2021. UK and France easily came in ahead of them.
Let's see if the UK or France could last a few hours let alone as long as Russia has against a Ukraine that is backed by the US + the entire free world, take out the US and Russia marches through London and Paris likely unopposed like the defense that France did during ww2 against a Germany that was clearly a second tier military that ultimately got steamrolled and mutted by the Russians
your sentence starts out fine but collapses mid way through, wanna repost it?
Talking about their navy, you illiterate mongrel. Do they not teach you how to read in India? The Russian navy is garbage, has always been garbage, and will always be garbage, and at no point in history was it ever the third best navy in the world.
What the frick.
>take out the US and Russia marches through London and Paris
You got btfo in Kyiv without western support kek
>unopposed like the defense that France did during ww2 against a Germany
Battle of France had 50k+ dead on both sides in 1.5 months
ass status?
Russia has like 100km force projection outside its' borders
Russia could force project between vladivostok and moscow and would be a greater distance than anything the uk or france has ever accomplished...ever...even including the falkland war where the uk almost lost to argentina lmfao, that's like almost going to a stalement with monaco or iceland
homie they can't force project to Belgorod.
lmao we're at the "Russia can hold Russia" stage of cope
Btw good foresight defining the western-most point of Russian force projection as Moscow
argentina is easily one the most stable nations in south american, and at the time was under a military junta, also both of those nations had large holdings in both asia and africa. Is this indian education at it's finest?
Then why their logistics collapse as soon as they leave their borders?
Black person, France encompasses 12 time zones today, Russia is a regional power.
did you just say that russia's force projection is bigger than anything the UK has ever accomplished? This is the same UK that had the biggest empoire in the history of the world, right?
> British Empire in a world with a few hundred million people and essentially one of commercial enterprise avoding every military force on the continent like the plague
Everything before the 2000s is kindergarten level tier, British Empire about as relevant as the Mongol Empire which was larger and actually built by crushing everybody in their path through primitive military force
>Everything before the 2000s is kindergarten level tier
The Russo-Ukrainian War started just last year. Russia can't even project power into their next door neighbor.
Replying again because of how silly the statement is.
>Russia could force project between vladivostok and moscow and would be a greater distance than anything the uk or france has ever accomplished
"During its history, the United Kingdom's forces (or forces with a British mandate) have invaded, had some control over or fought conflicts in 171 of the world's 193 countries that are currently UN member states, or nine out of ten of all countries"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_Kingdom
Is there a more mutted race than the modern brit?
Pict->
Celt->
Romans>
Angles>
Saxons>
Jutes>
Danes>
Norwegians>
Normans>
Pakis>
Pajeets>
[Britain is here, who is next?}
Seriously for sea Russia shouldn't even be on the list. Their ships were mostly shit when they were made and they've been plauged by accidents and poor maintenance. Add to that most of the commanders are probably incompetent yes men.
In 2021 Russia would be the clear #2 but they are realistically #3 today, they are taking on a Ukraine backed and supplied by the entire free world, keep in mind that even before all of the gibs to Ukraine that Ukraine was already a t20 military
china has realistically been ahead of russia in terms of military since 2010, thats not even considering their current efforts in ukraine. Russia couldnt even handle SK at this point
> backed and supplied by the entire free world
less than 10% of a single year of the US' military budget committed
less than 5% of a single year of the US' military budget in actual military aid vs. financial support
less than 2% of a single year of the US' military budget in aid delivered so far vs. promised aid
all of these figures based on US' military budget in 2021, among the lowest of record per percent - if the US increased back to Cold War spending the defense budget would over double
this doesn't address how 2/3rds of Europe has barely sent any aid to Ukraine, leaning heavily on the UK and Germany and Eastern Europe to do it instead
you are absolutely clueless (and gay)
>they are taking on a Ukraine backed and supplied by the entire free world
cope and seethe moron
it's literally leftover NATO gear being used by Ukes with a month of training
You could honestly take Russia out of the top 10 at this point. Anything else would just be coping.
>backed and supplied by the entire free world
Reminder that Russia is still #1 donor of heavy equipment to Ukraine.
I think this just measures hardware rather than software.
Two things can be true at the same time, Russia's early performance in Ukraine was disastrously bad, at the same time it's not like Germany or the UK would do much better in the long term.
I would rank them behind SK but they're still comfortably top 5 thanks to the absolute state of Europe.
Italy over Israel in air is wrong, Israel actually does missions and doesn't have a 0 K/D ratio
>Is this accurate
"#3" is in a stalemate with #11 for months, besides the US on outspending everyone else combined i dont think people can make an accurate assessment
This list isn't bad actually, probably the least worst posted recently. The UK should not be so high overall though, as our army is absofrickinglutely tiny
The UK still has nukes on their slbm fitted subs but agree that without the slbm nukes they are outside the t10
Agree on land, but air is solid and sea obviously the best subs that happen to be nuclear with slbms in the world outside the US
>Best Korea
>10th overall
What in the actual frick? Are these the kind of idiots that think that China has a better Navy than the US because they throw a flag on any piece of flotsam and call it a PLAN guided missile destroyer?
Feel free to invade NK, let us know how it goes.
This. Other than their ballistic missiles they can't really force project but on the peninsula they have more ground firepower than all of Europe combined, all on land barely larger than the size of Hungary or Austria
Any modern military could inflict 100:1 losses against those starving asiatic morons. It'd be the roflstomp to end them all. We only haven't because they would flatten Seoul.
Ohohohohooo bros the Chinese are copying so much shit they’re even trying to copy the “frick around and find out” doctrine
There are three reasons nobody invades the norks.
1) china doesn't want it
2) the insane amount of dumb tubes aimed at Seoul
3?) The humanitarian catastrophe of a bajilion starving and uneducated norks
Utterly fricking moronic.
greece and iran over UK or france....
On land its not even close, greece on land both take the uk and france at the same time together
Just by inventory, at leasst the Air part is wrong.
Spain: 84 Hornets, 68 Typhoons
is above:
Turkey: 245 F16C/D
Greece: 24 Rafale, 24 Mirage 2000 154 F16C/D (and some Vipers)
No way.
Spain will probably get F35s, Turkey and Greece will get them when they are 2+ generations behind the latest exported fighter
But it's about 2023, not whenever the frick they get them.
Greece is getting F35s by 2028, btw
>Japan listed twice for air
What did he mean by this?
Saudi Arabia at #11
Paper nations like China and Russia needs to drop by 5 places.
Any historically communist nation has the -50% hidden modifier already applied.
Who the frick looks at the Admiral Kuznetsov and thinks this is the 3rd best navy in the world?
this guy:
Do we just finally accept that asiatic shill is here to stay or are we just ignoring it now?
The only thing that makes me think it's not him is that he hasn't ranked Korea over China and the file name isn't his usual.
It's literally just Armatard.
I like the asiatic shills they project and argue like a battered and abused women; they never directly say what they want to say and hide behind false topics.
Quite an amusing people.
>shills
I thought it was just one autistic guy who really hates Japan for some reason.
> More like 90% of /k recognizes japan is probably weaker than taiwan
There's only one poster on /k that thinks japan is even in the top 20, op is delusional nfw they are in the top 10
Yep. There he is.
>Japan navy
>6
Shouldn't they be on 3 or 4th place?
OP is the asiaticshil
> weeb still can't comprehend that nip boats have no ballistic missiles and still stuck in the 1980s tech level
Lmfao
Japan's been building topnotch warships since the time your shithole was their colony asiaticshill lmao
ROK would glass Japan without breaking a sweat, ROK subs alone would not only sink the entire nip fleet would also turn tokyo in a firepit, remember korea with 1/10th the population and 13 armored ships sunk 1000+ japanese vessels without a single casualty in imjim war, imagine now that rok is decades ahead in miltech…
The funny thing is that the typical south korean looks at the typical jap the same way a western euro looks at sudacas for no other reason than the typical korean male is 178cm 80kg on average compared to the typical japanese male is 168cm 63kg on average, people just look down on manlets especially if its a race of pagan npcs
Did you know japanese are allergic to meat protein and dairy? These are the two staple foods in south korea compared to japan they eat rice and vegetables as staple foods
>asiaticshill still venting his impotent rage at Japan
Koreans must be the most insecure people on the planet. Only Indians come close.
>without a single casualty
Even compared to all the other greatly exaggerated numbers, this ridiculous claim is on a league of its own. You really outdid yourself this time, huh?
yes and Russia will capture Kyiv in 3 days
asiatic cope and delusion at its finest
Not only does the JMSDF have far superior surface and submarine forces but they have the world's second largest ASW aircraft asset that doesn't appear in those displacement charts, which alone is capable of wiping out asiatic subs within a few hours. Not to mention the huge underwater submarine detection infrastructure even the US Navy in the region has counted on since Cold War era. asiatic subs have no chance of getting close enough to launch their shitty Iskander clones with ~500km range to Tokyo, and even if they could, that's nothing, considering how Ukies shoot down more Iskanders and Kinzhals like turkeys almost every day with the donated 2 Patriot batteries, and the JASDF alone operates 24 Patriot batteries.
Any real war between Japan and Korea will lead to yet another genocide of asiatics by samurai like the one where 1 million or a quarter of asiatic population were wiped out for the lulz in the 16th century which continues to cause you to run to the moronic cope naval myth. It's simply laughable that asiatics delude themselves into thinking they are in the same league as Japan or other chad great powers/former empires like UK, Germany, and France in military, technology, or anything, somehow looking down on hispanic, while you yourself are just as much of colonized rapebabies as them.
A real war between rok and japan would result in a genocide of japanese, the firepower and readiness gap is substantial even without getting into the least trained south korean civilian probably would qualify as an elite soldier in japan let alone the 300k elite world class soldiers in rok, it would look like a european power colonizing an african nation to include the genocide parts
>gets conquered by superior people within weeks
>gets massacred and raped by both invaders and rescue forces from suzerain
>gets enslaved and sold to European traders
Such is the life of asiatic, literally Africa tier lmao
asiaticshill sisters... not like this
And yet 1 million Koreans ended up genociding the entire military forces of 30 million Japanese to include sinking the entire 1000+ vessel Japanese navy with 13 armored ships
Why are japanese so weak at war? The kill ratio between the US and Japan in ww2 was something like 50k to 3+ million lmfao
This guy was literally the genghis khan of the seas, the mongols had 100k soldiers on horseback and ended up conquering the known world, this guy had 13 armored ships and ended up sinking over 1000+ adversaries without a single ship lost
Genghis Khan = greatest military genius in humankind
Yi Sun Shin = greatest naval genius in humankind
>asiaticshill fails to face the official dynastic record, has a mental meltdown, and repeats the same asiatic nonsense
like clockwork lmao
> weeb like clockwork
24/7/365, you never disappoint troony
Lmfao
Lol samurais averaged around 4'9" without exaggeration and only were able to win battles through overwhelming numbers, there are firsthand accounts from Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch sailors, who themselves were washouts in Europe generally the plebe underfed class, in groups of 20 or 30 killing over 1000+ samurai without taking any real casulties, it was as lopsided as what the Iberians did to the aztecs, incas and mayans
>Group of 20-30 Portuguese and Dutch sailors killed 1000 Samurai.
Citation needed.
>SK 4th in air and above Japan
This list is as accurate as Hellen Keller with a sniper rifle.
ROK 60 F35As
Japan 34 F35As/Bs after one japanese pilot blacked out on a routine training flight, crash his F35, chinese/russians salvaged in the greatest F35 security breach of the past 50 years, and got himself killed in the process
ROK has something like 3x more F16s and purchased 240 KF21s, the gap between South Korea and after is cavernous and larger than the gap between the US and South Korea
You could have posted all that in the OP and it would have saved us the trouble of giving you the benefit of the doubt. Not giving you (You).
Why didn't Spain get F-35 anyway? No money? Also, France finally admits that they can't into fighters beyond Rafale and buy F-35 when?
>No money?
20.000 millions euro women ministery is more important.
Not even remotely true, asiaticshill
Why expose your bias weeb?
F35 operators operational as of today:
1. US: 450
2. Australia: 48
3. South Korea: 40
4. Japan: 34
5. Israel: 30
6. Netherlands: 28
7. UK: 27
8. Italy: 20
9. Norway: 10
Future orders are pointless as every country is claiming some ridiculous pipeline such as Canada with 100+ F35s, will believe it when it happens and how the F35 stacks up against whatever is the best available then
YOU are biased and lying asiaticshill.
Actually ROK doesn't have 40 operational F-35A but 39, because a crash-landed airframe hasn't been operational for more than a year, which is about to be junked as they can't afford repair costs that's $76 million lol
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2023/06/113_351540.html
https://eurasiantimes.com/crashed-trashed-f-35a-stealth-fighter-that-was-hit-by/
Even if they save it and place an additional order for 20 F-35A this year, the size of the fleet remains the same 40 until at least 2028, considering 4-5 year lead time.
Meanwhile in Japan, they are flying 37th airframe, meaning they have at least 36 airframes, taking into account the one lost to an accident, and new airframes are being assembled in the Komaki FACO as we speak, so it's safe to say their fleet will be bigger than ROK's by the end of the fiscal year.
Also, Japanese orders are very reliable, they've already paid for 83 (63 As and 20 Bs), invested like 15 F-35A worth of money in the FACO and MRO&U to build and maintain them locally, showing their commitment to F-35, and procurement is accelerating thanks to the new buildup program. Which is also why their orders are on the LM website while ROK's plan for another 20 isn't.
> Not single true fact
Do you just dream this up or are you intentionally trying to spread lies?
Are you also a flat earther?
>blacked out on a routine training flight,
Why do you repeat this lie? It was spatial disorientation, something that has claimed hundreds of pilots lives INCLUDING KOREAN ONES
https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20161027010200315
If I were a disingenuous moron like you, I'd say that he blacked out on a routine flight. Instead, I understand the situation, because I have a three-digit IQ.
If you're gonna go there, then let's talk about Korean pilots and their tendency to die in training, shall we? https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2022/04/03/national/defense/KT1-crash-accident/20220403165053211.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/skorean-air-force-pilot-killed-after-fighter-jet-crashes-2022-01-11/
Go ahead, call me weeb. I don't even like Japan or Korea. It won't change shit.
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Only 1 f35 casualty ever…japan holds this distinction from a training flight
When ROK has their nuclear submarines, aircraft carrier and unmanned carriers/submarines operational they will be above the UK and France and probably #2 or #3 on the combined ranking
>Pussia, Egypt, Best Korea
>morondetected.gif
It's one of those lists that ranks countries based on T-72s in "storage". Gay and cringe
I would move Germany to #7 or #8 on sea, German submarine technology is better than the UK or France even if Germany only does conventional and most certainly better than Japan, Italy, Spain, India, Turkey, Brazil
Japan has more destroyers but subs rule the day in the modern naval warfare doctrine
Japan has more and better subs than Germany.
Japanese subs are based on German sub designs
No they aren't. They are domestic designs. Soryuu uses a Swedish Engine, and Taigei uses an indigenous one after they deemed the German ones not stealthy enough.
Funnily enough, the only subs based on German designs in that region is South Korean ones
>German submarine technology is better than the UK or France
German navy, unlike the French, cannot into force protection.
Also, they have like four small frigates capable of surface combat. Gwrman anon is absolutely delusional.
Mongols force projected something like 100,000km+ on horseback 800 years ago if you followcthe circuitious paths they took, any nation can force project today, but only the us can force project millions of boots on the ground properly
>German sub tech is better than the UK or France
>even if Germany only does conventional
Mutually exclusive. Diesel subs are inherently worse than nuclear, they shouldn't even be compared the gap is so large.
>Spain has a better land army than France and the UK.
>asiaticshill thread
reminder to hide the thread and mailto:sage
>Italy #8 at sea
>#9 air
>Not even top 20 on land
>#10 combined
First of all, that math is broken.
Second, Italy should be at the bottom of all lists. The US could gift Italy every last piece of hardware they have, all 11 carriers stuffed with planes, all that shit, and all Italy would do with it is bomb themselves back into the Stone Age.
Italy sucks across the board always. With Italy, you lose.
Italy has F35s and a good navy though
Bong or kraut detected, Italy has a legit naval force and more F35s than the UK or Germany, remember who saved the bong pilot that almost died driving the F35B off a carrier deck? Yup, Italian navy, cope seethe and of course dilate
>Why did an Italian escort pickup a bong carrier failure if the Bongs have a decent navy checkmate
This isn't a win for you anon
Italy and Israel have more F35s than the UK, France and Germany have none, I would move Italy and Israel up ahead of France, UK, Germany
Way too kind to China. China is India-tier.
>Finland air
lol no, that's sweden. No "joint" airforces don't count.
>Sweden not on air
the frick, they're famously dangerous, one of the biggest potential additions to NATO
>finland not on land list
the strongest artillery force in europe, has mandatory conscription baked into their constitutions
>russia in top 3 any category
They are genuinely not top 3 in any category on their own continent.
>North Korea sea top 20
Midget 1st-gen submarines from the 40s and a bunch of brown water, low displacement trawlers seems impressive on paper if you've never seen an actual warship in person.
4/10 got me to respond
very, Russia's navy has tanked.
Nuclear deterrent should not be left out, though I can see why they did. But a cheatcode still has to be taken into account.
>SK #4 in land
>SK higher than Japan in sea and air
>SK #4 overall
Not in the least, asiaticshill.
>south korea 4th on 3/4 catergories
no, kys paid asiaticshill
>Russian navy at 3rd
HAHAHAHA
Wut you laughing at hohol*~~)). Russia has submersible missle cruiser. No one has such a ship.
Russia has nuclear subs, if they wanted they could sit off the coast a few thousand kilometers away from an adversary and just start lobbing nukes, on the US has more, China, UK and France have this capability but at a far less inventory, North Korea claims it and probably has some makeshift version but irregardless can't challenge Russia's nuclear capabilities, that's it in the world today
>if they wanted they could sit off the coast a few thousand kilometers away from an adversary and just start lobbing nukes
The Russian navy harbors horrors you cannot comprehend, let alone fight.
They should be on a chart of it's own.
I swear moronation is a pre-requisite when making these kinds of rankings. I've yet to see 1 (one) that wasn't offensively stupid.
>finland already 18th
Wow, after they get F.35s in a couple of years they're gonna shoot off the fricking charts
>puccia on the list
Very
Accurate, definitely
Not made by a
Korean shill
These are pre 2022 estimates
>Russian
>navy
>numba three
>Israel higher in land than in air
This list is absolute garbage OP. Pure ignorant trash
>Russia
>Third place in Sea
What the frick did the author of this chart smoke. Russia's navy is notoriously anemic, short-staffed and literally falling apart in their own docks.
UK should be 2nd overall
>germany 7th in air
With those shitty eurofighters than don't maintain? I don't think so
*they
No Germany should be top of the list on all of them
They are the strongest Europeans and they 100% were not trannies in the 1920s and 30s
saudi arabia has higher military spending than russia
1: USA
2: France
3: China
4-7: South Korea (Don't know which of these is better)
4-7: India
4-7: UK
4-7: Japan
8: Italy
9-11: Turkey
9-11: Brazil
9-11: AUS
Some of the options on the chart are odd. Israel, Norks, and Poland have no force projection capability. Egyptian army is large but of questionable competence. Thailand and Spain have better navies than Russia.
The list seems generally within the realm of possibilities other than France at 2 and Brazil at 9-11, France's coat of arms is the white flag while Brazil has the gripen as its best jet fighter
France is great at beating on african shitholles but the moment a continental military gives a mean mug the french invariably bend over a spread cheeks
I was guessing at force projection rather than ability to defend and fight neighbors within easy reach of logistics. France is really a gamble, it's unclear how much of their experience in COIN would translate into war, but they do have a history of successful force projection.
And African shitholes have better commanders than Russians; Paul Kagame could have at least captured Hostomel, with the ghost of Hasan Djamous at least being able to get armored vehicles into Kiev.
France has never forced projected against a peer nation since the Normans conquered Britain
They did a pretty good job tying up the RN during the American rebellion. La Royale has never been anything to laugh at, with the obvious exception of the inter-war years.
Nice try frog
Let's be realistic in a rare moment here, ROK would absolutely skullcrush Japan in a 1v1, its fortunate for Japan that relationships are strong due to shared anti-China sentiment
The rumor is that ROK is considering inviting Japan into the US-ROK nuclear sharing agreement that Biden and Yoon signed a few weeks ago as well, but US apparently is still opposed to it