I recall reading that they wanted to create something totally new for the film but they had a budget so they did what they did with one of those airport things and this was the end result.
Cool vehicle for sure but I wonder what they were imagining originally.
forget about ground clearance, what about those giant wheels? they look too juicy for any AP shell, they're so big you might as well draw a target onto them
Since its meant to go into ships, to drive around the small cramped and low hanging tunnels of built up colonies and futuristic industrial structures, it is adequate, however the visibility is shit and it needs more sensors to compensate.
Apparently each wheel contains its own electric engine, its own drive train and its own battery, if you look at cross section diagrams it doesnt actually have an internal engine or fuel compartment, its literally all cabin and seats + the commander station.
The tech manual states that the ground clearance can be adjusted on the fly thanks to a variable suspension system.
This. And no wheel travel for terrain.
that's a really shitty ground clearance.
it would high center on a fricking cinder block.
The wheels are either linked to telescoping pistons, or arms that can swing down, so it can stand up or squat within a foot(?) of travel.
The amount of thought that Cameron put into the "Marine-70 Modernization Program" of his universe, implies to me that the variable suspension idea is not merely a retcon, to excuse the use of an airport tractor as a vehicle prop.
The SmartGuns and body armor of Colonial Marines, for example, are products of the Marine-70 Program too.
The main reason given, as to why the vehicle has this shape, is so it can slip into all manners of lifting bodies [spacecraft] and shipping containers. It's a logistics compromise.
(me)
Oh and I'll add, this is also why the turret can slide on a track, over to the rear, to get flush with the roof of the hull. More respect to volumetric constraints of shipping.
Why not have the best of both worlds and give it a suspension that in ships and tunnels and such it can keep a low profile, but in open and rugged terrain it can get more than 5 inches of ground clearance
It's height varies on the terrain because if it's suspension. It will go from 22 cms to 4 feet if needed. It rides low most of the movie. Cameron says it's got 4 separate actual turbines and goes into somewhere. Each wheel can operate by itself or as a group. It stays low unless it needs to drive over something 4 feet high
If it caught on, they could have just put aero front covers on the containers. The purpose was to get around a proposed EU law that would limit trucks to 15m total length, but it didn't end up going into effect.
Predominantly, you have nearly ZERO forward visibility.
When I'm driving, it's an 80,000lb vehicle moving at 65mph.
You need to be looking like 7-10 seconds down the road constantly in order to plan ahead, because I can't just stop the thing on a dime, especially if I'm going downhill.
I need to see if there's a hill coming, a traffic light, some weird fricking bullshit happening in a field off to the right, whatever, because if I can't react quick enough and wreck, chances are I'm fricking dead, as well as whoever else happens to be nearby.
This thing has worse visibility than even a passenger car. It'd drive me insane.
>Steinwinter-Supercargo-2040-Concept
You miss the file name bub?
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-steinwinter-supercargo-2040-the-futuristic-tractor-trailer-built-like-a-supercar-215700.html
It was supposed to be road-going, not bound to an airfield. >They don't hire UPS drivers for their good looks, you know.
You're right, they hired me off the street to shuffle mail order bullshit pillar to post because I'm not moronic.
1 month ago
Anonymous
So what you're saying is that it's an airport tug, and not an airplane tug.
I'm glad we cleared that up.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You have trouble reading period, or just comprehending the meaning of the words in sentences?
Those wheels will be limited to streets.
Armor isn't protecting them, it'll get K-killed easily.
That slanted armor isn't protecting much, the door on the side if hit by a MBT will kill the driver and everyone inside.
Ventilation on the side? If that's an engine compartment, this thing isn't armored at all.
Zero armor in the rear or on top.
i always hated how the set of the APC in the movie is fricking huge while the actual exterior shots of the vehicle don't match up at all with the interior size.
Shoulda been based on the LVT-5.
I recall reading that they wanted to create something totally new for the film but they had a budget so they did what they did with one of those airport things and this was the end result.
Cool vehicle for sure but I wonder what they were imagining originally.
>LVT-5
I still can't believe this giant bastard ever existed and it took me until this year to learn it did, I've been a mil nerd my whole life
it would high center on a fricking cinder block.
forget about ground clearance, what about those giant wheels? they look too juicy for any AP shell, they're so big you might as well draw a target onto them
Have you ever seen an armoured car? Those wheels are par the course on size:
Since its meant to go into ships, to drive around the small cramped and low hanging tunnels of built up colonies and futuristic industrial structures, it is adequate, however the visibility is shit and it needs more sensors to compensate.
Apparently each wheel contains its own electric engine, its own drive train and its own battery, if you look at cross section diagrams it doesnt actually have an internal engine or fuel compartment, its literally all cabin and seats + the commander station.
The wheels are either linked to telescoping pistons, or arms that can swing down, so it can stand up or squat within a foot(?) of travel.
The amount of thought that Cameron put into the "Marine-70 Modernization Program" of his universe, implies to me that the variable suspension idea is not merely a retcon, to excuse the use of an airport tractor as a vehicle prop.
The SmartGuns and body armor of Colonial Marines, for example, are products of the Marine-70 Program too.
The main reason given, as to why the vehicle has this shape, is so it can slip into all manners of lifting bodies [spacecraft] and shipping containers. It's a logistics compromise.
(me)
Oh and I'll add, this is also why the turret can slide on a track, over to the rear, to get flush with the roof of the hull. More respect to volumetric constraints of shipping.
>It's a logistics compromise.
No, it's fictional bullshit whose only design criteria was looking cool.
Why not have the best of both worlds and give it a suspension that in ships and tunnels and such it can keep a low profile, but in open and rugged terrain it can get more than 5 inches of ground clearance
It's height varies on the terrain because if it's suspension. It will go from 22 cms to 4 feet if needed. It rides low most of the movie. Cameron says it's got 4 separate actual turbines and goes into somewhere. Each wheel can operate by itself or as a group. It stays low unless it needs to drive over something 4 feet high
Yeah. If they're going low-pro wheeled, you really need to stack the whole fricking length with wheels, French style.
that's a really shitty ground clearance.
This. And no wheel travel for terrain.
The tech manual states that the ground clearance can be adjusted on the fly thanks to a variable suspension system.
What about installing a low rider system of air-jacks?
And thats how you blow a trans axel. You end up just grinding metal.
Ease down, ease down
>The Aliens tank is a FWD shitbox
Unfortunate.
Where the frick does an axle even FIT in this thing? It's incredibly cramped and the center axis of the wheels is well above the line of the cabin
Seriously where the frick
Is there a bigger version of this? Google and Yandex failed me.
ctrl + mousewheel up
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404535220516
seems you can only find the full res print if you buy these models
moron-kun didn't read the thread.
electric motors probably
No, but it does look breddy cool tho.
moron here
why didn't they stay in the armored and heavily armed vehicle and use its cpmm system to call in the other drop ship?
it was outside in the open too so the aliens couldn't sneak up on them and they had clear fields of fire
Dialogue later in the movie indicates the first dropship crashed into the APC, wrecking the comm antenna they needed for orbital comms.
It's a viable design for a cargo vehicle.
aerodynamic af kek
If it caught on, they could have just put aero front covers on the containers. The purpose was to get around a proposed EU law that would limit trucks to 15m total length, but it didn't end up going into effect.
Holy sovl
imagine a vw golf rolling up alongside you and the driver looking down at you, kek
Am truck driver for UPS.
Driving this daily would be my fricking nightmare.
It would give me constant anxiety.
Why?
Predominantly, you have nearly ZERO forward visibility.
When I'm driving, it's an 80,000lb vehicle moving at 65mph.
You need to be looking like 7-10 seconds down the road constantly in order to plan ahead, because I can't just stop the thing on a dime, especially if I'm going downhill.
I need to see if there's a hill coming, a traffic light, some weird fricking bullshit happening in a field off to the right, whatever, because if I can't react quick enough and wreck, chances are I'm fricking dead, as well as whoever else happens to be nearby.
This thing has worse visibility than even a passenger car. It'd drive me insane.
>He thinks you drive airplane tugs at 65 MPH on the highway
They don't hire UPS drivers for their good looks, you know.
>Steinwinter-Supercargo-2040-Concept
You miss the file name bub?
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-steinwinter-supercargo-2040-the-futuristic-tractor-trailer-built-like-a-supercar-215700.html
It was supposed to be road-going, not bound to an airfield.
>They don't hire UPS drivers for their good looks, you know.
You're right, they hired me off the street to shuffle mail order bullshit pillar to post because I'm not moronic.
So what you're saying is that it's an airport tug, and not an airplane tug.
I'm glad we cleared that up.
You have trouble reading period, or just comprehending the meaning of the words in sentences?
Jetto's truck from The Highwayman is sadly in a state of disrepair.
1989 Batmobile meets 2005 Batmobile.
Maybe.
Those wheels will be limited to streets.
Armor isn't protecting them, it'll get K-killed easily.
That slanted armor isn't protecting much, the door on the side if hit by a MBT will kill the driver and everyone inside.
Ventilation on the side? If that's an engine compartment, this thing isn't armored at all.
Zero armor in the rear or on top.
Heavy and useless, perfect for a toy car though.
Nope.
For aircraft tug.
im batman
Better than anything russia is throwing at ukraibe, for sure
If you're only going to be sending it on flat roads, sure
yes
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i always hated how the set of the APC in the movie is fricking huge while the actual exterior shots of the vehicle don't match up at all with the interior size.