is this a good pocket carry blackpowder or are there better ones for it, i dont want to feel like a pussy with a gun on my waist, i looked at some snub-nose guns and they are large for sure
is this a good pocket carry blackpowder or are there better ones for it, i dont want to feel like a pussy with a gun on my waist, i looked at some snu...
Define 'good'. All these little 19th century percussion guns, aka boot guns, either languished most of their life in a desk drawer or was carried in a vest pocket, or reputedly served as ankle backup gun for some soldiers - something I doubt. The mechanism is actually pretty good but every one I have seen, including the three I own, are all of puny caliber. The weapon is best used as dog protection.
as in i can blast someone attacking me with a knife/machete with it, there is a larger 44. caliber of this but i feel like this one could load well with shot pellets too and be smaller, now thinking about it i should go with 44
>. The mechanism is actually pretty good but every one I have seen, including the three I own, are all of puny caliber. The weapon is best used as dog protection.
I have trouble believing you as I own dozens of them and the smallest calibre I see in them is 44
Samegay. I don't really think people should carry I guess I'm older and having killed a lot don't recommend it. End of the day its just nasty or you will wind up seeing and remembering it that way when you get older anyway. Avoid the situation that makes you feel you need it on you OP. If necessary get on a bus. Are they lethal? Sure they are.
I'm not a huge fan of the concealed blade triggers my personal favourites are the side by side boxlock external hammer two triggered 44s. I think a lot of people her are confusing their purpose as well. A lot of these were carried (or at least owned) for putting horses down at least the more plain small percussion guns without features like folding triggers, floding safeties, etc etc. In fact they were on sale quite late on for that reason well into the 1880s surprisingly enough, as a means of putting animals down. As an example a horse gone out of control and crazy in a trap was a real danger in a crowed street and horses can be finicky enough animals sometimes as any other anon who knows them will tell you, not to smart either. They were handy things for putting down any other animal too. yes lethal enough but instead of theinking of the gun OP see if you can think of a way to get out of whatever this situation is. No matter what killing someone is not going to make life easier that's for sure. Now you can all call me names because I'm not an aspiring tough guy like you all.
>I don't really think people should carry
Frick off automatic transmission fluid man.
I don't even know who your talking about. The internet is not one person you know.
No doubt you've killed many men in self defense with your carry gun have you? Expert on it are you?
I want a modern version of this, like a single shot deringer, built by north american arms with their MIM revolvers.
a modern muff pistol would be pretty cool as long as it looks as sleek.
I've thought about this in the past as well. My idea would be to have it be striker fired, with a low profile sliding wienering piece that would double as a safety on top of the gun rather than a hammer. It could be set up where pulling the wienering piece back then pushing it forward again would leave the striker wienered so that the wienering piece doesn't require as much force to actuate when you need it, but would still allow the trigger to be folded again. A notch could also be put in the wienering piece to function as a basic sight. The barrel would of course still be screwed on, although it could be held in place by an interrupted screw rather than a full screw for ease of unthreading.
Are you trying to invent the cia deer gun? already done.
No. I'm talking about something in the exact same form factor as what OP posted with the folding trigger and all. Just obviously eliminating the nipple for the percussion cap since it would use cartridges, and changing out the hammer for basically a sliding switch on top of the gun.
you mean the altor? i think it's like 100 bucks or something stupid like that
See:
I have one. The trigger isn't really a trigger, more of a spring you pull back with your finger and let go. It's too ugly, I want something with the same level of class as the old muff guns.
>I have one. The trigger isn't really a trigger, more of a spring you pull back with your finger and let go.
More bullshit. What is this thread, inventive imagination ccetral, I have many many models of these and about 40 pistols covering the evolution of the small concealable pistol from flintlock through percussion passing via turn barrel, screw barrel, side by side tap action and, concealed trigger etc etc etc. The concealed trigger that drops down on wiener is in every sense a regular trigger that is breaking a sear, it does not fire on reset but as any other trigger. Sounds to me like you gun is broken. The concealed trigger is an old technology well perfected by the time of the percussion era, I have flintlock tap actions that feature them from the 1790s. They are as a regular trigger except the fold down halfway at half wiener and when full wiener is made.
Nigro, what the frick are you on about, I'm talking about Altor specifically.
>Ah fair enough, You can probably tell I was taking about OPs picture and thought he was too
fair, fren. OP's pic and related guns do have decent real triggers indeed. I own mid 1850's Belgium one that I like once in a blue moon.
Anon, that post you replied to was clearly talking about the Altor pistol posted here:
, and that's exactly how the trigger on that works, with the slope behind it pushing your finger off the trigger once you've pulled it back far enough.
Ah fair enough, You can probably tell I was taking about OPs picture and thought he was too
Carry a bowie knife.
knives are a meme to carry as weapons, stabbings are not a competition
Percussion is not 100% reliable. That's slightly less of an issue with a cap and ball revolver because you still have 4 or 5 more shots, but with a single shot gun you're fricked unless you're carrying more than 1. Buy a percussion pocket revolver instead.
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/8701/category_id/321/product_name/PH0370+PIETTA+NEW+MODEL+PKT+REMINGTON+STEEL
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/8649/category_id/321/product_name/RH0454+Uberti+1849+Pocket+Revolver
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/9026/category_id/321/product_name/SS1249+PIETTA+1851+YANK+SNUBNOSE+REVOLVER+44
You've already said a snub nose revolver is too big for you, so the .44 "1851" probably is too but it's also ballistically powerful enough to get the job done.
The 1849 is an ok gun, but .31 caliber may not be enough to defend yourself. Same goes for the Remington, but I posted it anyways because it's about as small as what you posted so you might actually carry it.
This is all assuming you're under 21. If you're not then you should really think about an NAA revolver, a modern 2 shot derringer, or a small .32 ACP auto.
Or you could just man up and carry a snub and be done with it, but we don't want to upset your fragile self image and have you thinking of yourself as a pussy.
>Percussion is not 100% reliable.
Its almost at the same level as cartridge guns unless you really have no idea what you are doing or the gun or nipple is not maintained at all. Sealing the cap with beeswax and using a beeswax patch behind the ball is enough to stop water. Again I am not sure about your commenting or your experience as it conflicts with my own direct experience. There is a lot to running a reliable flintlock but not so much with a percussion gun if the nipple and lock are good
is not 100% reliable.
>Its almost at the same level as cartridge guns
>almost
Are you actually moronic? 99% does not equal 100% you miserable homosexual. And it's way less than 99% isn't it mister expert?
>it conflicts with my own direct experience
You don't have any direct experience. Caps are unreliable as frick, especially between brands, and you'd know that if you had any inkling of what you're even fricking talking about. What I'm talking about doesn't have a goddamn thing to do with water either.
>I don't really think people should carry I guess I'm older and having killed a lot don't recommend it
Nobody asked you a goddamn thing you fricking braindead Black person. have a nice day if you're that mad about being alive.
Get a revolver. Single-shotties tend to become less reliable the longer they're loaded.
>is this a good pocket carry blackpowder or are there better ones for it
Assuming you are doing this for the reason of 'not' carrying a firearm by the technical definition, technically there is a 'better' option
>(16) The term “antique firearm” means— (A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or (B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica— (i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or (ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade;
soooo strictly speaking if you could find a reproduction of some old cartridge weapon that takes some weird-ass caliber no one uses anymore you could use a weapon manufactured today as long as you were cool with reloading brass
the most likely candidates to be both would be revolvers, a Nagant revolver used to meet this qualification but Fiocchi makes too much 7.62×38mmR nowadays so its cartridge is available 'through normal c
You could also get a gunsmith to do a conversion of a repro cap and ball revolver for you into some weird caliber, I guess. Lot of fricking work but if you don't want to just follow your state's gun laws or if you're a felon or something you've got limited options.
through normal channels of commercial trade, fricking hit enter too soon while typing there, dammit.