Is there anything in terms of training, physicality, and knowledge you can get out of being in Special Operations (namely Rangers or SEALs) that you can't get as a civilian? If so, of what worth is it and what is its applicability outside of the military or in a collapse/SHTF situation?
Decent cardio if you're not using roids and also basic survival skills.
Which you can get as a civilian.
Yes. Much worth. Next to none. Don't join for enhanced larping.
What makes it worth so much if it lacks any application outside of the military?
Would never join for enhanced larping, that's gay.
Surviving weeks off of dirt instead of actual edible things, not sleeping for around a week, running fast af.
Those are the things that come to mind
this is actually super duper important. The level of resilience you obtain from this kind of training does not compare to what's available anywhere else.
the application is non-quantifiable, yet overwhelming. My ability to get things done, both in terms of efficiency and effectiveness, compared to my nominal peers is absurd. This is true even at the somewhat high corporate levels I've been working at.
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Any academy worth its salt puts you through a "hell week"
It's unironically not the same. As in, civilian trainers cannot legally do things to you that are part of various american SF schools
>As in, civilian trainers cannot legally do things to you that are part of various american SF schools
They can if you sign a liability waiver
If your mindset is still on "in case of SHTF" you are not even remotely serious enough to pass Ranger school, let alone selection. It's not about being a larper in the woods behind your house, it's about being the modern version of the elite, penultimate soldier of the strongest army in the world. That's a whole lifestyle commitment.
My mind is not on that. Curiosity exists. Questions can be asked without someone being consumed by the topic. And yeah, I know what it's about, I'm not moron - just curious about what value it provides outside of the military and what you can get out of it that a disciplined civilian with enough resources couldn't.
It's like asking what value being a professional athlete provides in a natural disaster. You're going to get very generalized answers because you're framing the question outside of what anyone in the profession cares about or trains for.
The military imposes legal discipline and demands unlimited liability. Those are two elements no civilian can access.
>trying to measure dicks and failing by trying to take something out of its context into another situation
What worth does having a PHD in marine biology apply to dating lefthanded women? What applicability does being an electrician have to surviving in the Sahara desert?
>it's about being the modern version of the elite, penultimate soldier of the strongest army in the world. That's a whole lifestyle commitment.
Exactly. It's about being gay.
SOF guys train to operate as members of SOF units with the full backing of the DoD. They are not supersoldiers and they are not one-man armies.
If you're thinking that you can collect some kind of skillset from being in SOF that you can use to survive SHTFWROLWTFBBQ or whatever the frick then don't bother.
You get a topic to write a gay book about
And then you get to go on podcasts, and make instagram podcasts promoting Black wiener Coffee Company and other vetbro brands
Being the best and being surrounded by the best who fight for what you believe in is great.
Correct me if I am wrong, but most Special forces units are getting in, kill, sabotage or save someone and get out.
If you want some survival knowledge, best options to get that are Green Berets or ISA, they need to be able to spend a lot of time on the field
Teamwork. But their greatest skills go to shit when they leave the military. No more team no more warmachine support. They're likely more ignorant than a gun autist and usually are.
explosives and anti tank training I guess, most of what we have is vietnam era and useless by now
> knowledge
A Goy's place
>SHTF
A passport + money works better than being a biorobot
No. Being a high performing member of a high performing org, supported by large conventional forces and with air, naval, arty does not help you in a situation where you are an individual trying to survive possibly for years or indefinitely without any of that stuff.
you're living that life, it's your career. you eat, live, and breathe the ethos and lifestyle. that cannot be taught without being inundated by it and having those around you on the same frequency. so no, you cannot be taught it by some course or class you took for a couple of daya then went home. MAYBE taught the basic skills that you'll never apply during live fire under stress. you still never actually know what you'll do when the shit goes down.
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