Is there a worse military in Europe than the Irish Defence Forces?

Small, weak and poorly equipped

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Belgian

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Belgium is a superpower compared to Ireland

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I just checked Wikipedia and holy frick you're right. How

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They are completely incapable of defending themselves.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Belgium is not a country.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's not even a country

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who?

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What they lack in numbers they make up for in fantastic beer and insane fighters

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >insane fighters

      Literally no one that's not Irish thinks this.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I think he means fist fighters Anon.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Drunken domestic abuse doesn't count as fist fighting

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You’re forgetting bar fights and boxing.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Literally just pikeys and they wouldn't fight for anyone but themselves.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >insane fighters

      Who needs the F35

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This plane is undefeated in aerial combat. Not even a next gen fighter like the F35 would want to approach it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Irish beer sucks

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Comes running off the hill naked screaming with large weapon over head
      >romans break rank in fear and suprise

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine one

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I mean there's still the Austrians

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Austria is leagues above Ireland

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      he said Europe, not Oceania

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >there's still the Austrians
      Hey now, our military sucks but at least we have jets, tanks and artillery.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We technically have a military and our combat engineers and academies are pretty good.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    r*ssa

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The Russian one.

      >russia
      >europe

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The part of Russia that matters is considered to geographically be in Europe.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They won against britain though or something right

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Then why are there two Irelands ?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        cuz 2 is better than 1 duh are you're stupid

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Russian one.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How big a country must be to have a decent military?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >pic related a country that takes money from everyone else so they wont attack it- and steals weapon designs so funding doesnt have to go to R&D
      Jeez I wonder why

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The country you're describing isn't in Europe.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          SHUT IT DOWN

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Realistically, there's the "Irish Defence Force", and then there's THE Irish Defence Force.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Our only threat is England and they're imploding at the moment. Scots have another indy vote soon, NI isn't going to end well. Budget came out today and the MoD is getting pushback on the funds it requested despite everyone but dipshit pacifist TDs agreeing just a few months ago that is was necessary. We'll find out in 2 weeks how that goes, and also whether our pathetic Air Corps will get proper jets and a promotion to Air Force.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Our only threat is England
      What century you living in?

      The only credible use for the IDF is supporting civil services in case of a break down in law & order. Increasingly likely when the Shinners and related scum get into power after the next election.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Our only threat is England
      Best not to rely on them for air defence then, which you currently do.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Seeing inside the mind of a sh*nner is truly frightening.
      More embarrassing than any of this country's military sailing is the fact that our "nationalist" party are fricking raging troony lgbbq++ mass immigration communists.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        wait until you hear about the cucks in government right now. fricking no one is actually competent enough for me to trust them as far as I could throw them at running this skip of a country

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Trust me, mo chara, even spastics hat the unholy FF/FG goblin creature, but assuming that shinners aren`t the same, or probably even worse, is insane. The difference is that Micheál and his homosexuals are somewhat careful and cautious about everything they do, living in fear of the fact that everyone hates them (though they still prioritise fricking everyone in the ass over anything else, including their own voter numbers, go figure), whereas the Mary Lou`s troony brigade have a completely offensive ideology of "ignore everything, admit nothing, relentlessly shill, laugh at the aftermath"(e.g. on abortion).
          All of the small parties are owned and operated directly by the Dáil parties and their globalist owners, and, being all commie gays, exist only so that people can vote to say that they want the government to frick them and their nation far harder.
          It`s all so tiresome, really. Nowadays, when yanks on /k/ or somewhere start talking shit I just nod. When yank kids are asked what they want to be when they grow up, they say firemen and astronauts or whatever, but by the time they`re 20 they just want to work a trade and grill. When Irish kids are asked what they want to be, they give the same answers, but by the time they turn 20 all they want to be is an American (and perhaps a woman aswell...)

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            like every other week Mary Lou says some stupid shit that contracts some other less stupid shit she said the week before and I can only imagine how much worse that would be if she was in the big chair. At least with Michael and Leo they lie through their fricking teeth in a consistent manner.
            No way the Navy or Air Corps will the funds it needs for new craft either

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Every single military that still uses the FAL is based

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing as Ireland is more or less neutral and in a position where to be invaded they'd either be attacked by
    >America, in which case lmao you already lost
    or
    >Russia, who would have to work its way throughout all of Europe and likely the American atlantic, arctic, and med fleets, which lmao

    they're fine. Ultimately they are fine where they are and with what they have because the likelihood anyone invades them is about as low as the sun exploding tomorrow.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    These are the most depressing places in Europe, it's everything so lifeless and grey

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      at least we aren't on fire like the rest of europe

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        how is the rest of europe on fire

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They've been hitting 40°C/104°F over the last few weeks

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's really hot down here

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Picture is wrong, Sweden should be included

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        sveden atleast its a bit comfy

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They have the greatest defense of all, complete irrelevance.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Their only neighbor has no interest in invasion outside of bants

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They got more javelins than their biggest, the UK has tanks

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    who the frick is going to invade ireland?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Me.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You rang?

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like to make this comparison, seems almost apples-to-apples:

    >Ireland: population 5 million
    >Singapore: population 5.6 million

    >Ireland: GDP $400 billion
    >Singapore: GDP $340 billion

    >Irish Army: 7,300 active duty infantry, 80 armored vehicles
    >Singaporean Army: 45,000 active duty infantry, 170 tanks, 3,400 armored vehicles

    >Irish Air Force: one unarmed jet (VIP transport), 15 prop planes, 10 helicopters
    >Singaporean Air Force: 100 fighter jets, 22 unarmed jets (tankers/trainers/AWACS), 38 prop planes, 109 helicopters

    >Irish Navy: 7 patrol boats (5 in service), 2 corvettes (decommissioned)
    >Singaporean Navy: 6 frigates, 6 corvettes, 4 submarines, 8 patrol boats, 4 LSTs
    The punchline is that Singapore is copying Japan's lead and refitting one of these big LSTs into a fricking F-35 carrier, they bought 4 F-35Bs to trial and intend to expand to a wing of 12 when it's ready

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Irish Air Force: one unarmed jet (VIP transport), 15 prop planes, 10 helicopters
      No. Fricking. Way.

      I have lost respect for you today, Ireland. Holy shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We simply do not have the budget for anything else lad.

        The budget for the WHOLE DF is like 1 billion

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Who is responsible for cucking you guys *this* hard and is there any fricking hope?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >We simply do not have the budget for anything else lad.
          >The budget for the WHOLE DF is like 1 billion
          No.
          You have the budget.
          You lack the will to spend it on defense.
          Your country chooses to spend money elsewhere.
          You have the country you deserve.
          > voicemail for the homeless
          > puppet shows for immigrants
          > needle exchanges in schools
          I made 2 of those up

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Fun fact, Ireland depends on the Brits to protect their own airspace, despite all the ravings against the Perfidious Anglo. Even the Brits don't want to do it, they only do so because Russian bombers that are close to Ireland is also close Great Britain.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're disgusted by that? Just look at their """"""Navy"""""""

        also, boats > planes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yet the IDF are better Muppet. Now go play some video games

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, everyone knows Israel kicks ass tripbro

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ireland knows that Britain will just defend them by proxy in any international affairs that could arise.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Former Irish soldier here. I got out in 2020.

    The whole defence force has been neglected for decades. Most governments chose to cut the budget or not increase it.

    Morale is at rock fricking bottom too

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I will never understand this, especially the complete lack of any kind of airpower. Like literally zero - I understand that the RAF protects Irish airspace but it's absolutely bizzare the fact that they rely on their oldest enemy to provide literally 90% of their defense. And seems like most of the population is completely content with this.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The average person doesn't give a shit about anything military related.

        Whenever our lack of suitable aircraft or RADAR is brought up, most people will shrug their shoulders and say "So,what? Who's going to attack us?"

        They have a point to be fair. We don't really have any enemies these days. The only potential threat I can think of is Russia but theyd have to get through all of Europe and the UK to reach us

        Fun fact, Ireland depends on the Brits to protect their own airspace, despite all the ravings against the Perfidious Anglo. Even the Brits don't want to do it, they only do so because Russian bombers that are close to Ireland is also close Great Britain.

        I've actually heard a few hardcore Republicans remark on how funny they think it is to make Britain defend our airspace.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Whenever our lack of suitable aircraft or RADAR is brought up, most people will shrug their shoulders and say "So,what? Who's going to attack us?"
          >I've actually heard a few hardcore Republicans remark on how funny they think it is to make Britain defend our airspace.
          You cannot possibly know how much this kind of mentality makes me seethe, because you just know that it comes part and parcel with the idea that "even if there is a threat, others will take care of it for us." To aggressively ignore your own defense because "muh it's irrelevant," only to concede that the neighbor who you always shit talk to no end will protect you anyway is the gold medal for free-loading useless cuckery. The Irish I've met never struck me as passive-aggressive butthole women, what the frick is any of this?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the Irish I've met never struck me as passive-aggressive butthole women

            This is a national trait they are famous for and I imagine its even worse among nationalistic types

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >The Irish I've met never struck me as passive-aggressive butthole women
            Guess you haven't met enough Irish.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody asked you, you fricking homosexual.
            Stfu and gtfo

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Oh look, a drunk pikey acting out as usual

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              bit close to the bone, huh paddy?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >The Irish I've met never struck me as passive-aggressive butthole women
            You American? Not met enough Irish.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bullshit mate. I served in the Irish army in the 90's and saw action against IDF, Hizbollah and Serbs all in UN peace enforcement not peace keeping missions. Idiots should stay quite when they don't know what they are talking about.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Never took the Irish as the pozzed kind but here we are

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Never took the Irish as the pozzed kind
          You have no idea how bad it is bro...

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'd guess that Moldova is worse

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Iceland, since they dont have a standing military

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Irish Special Forces Unit, the Sciathán Fiannóglaigh an Airm, or Army Ranger Wing, is far superior to most NATO units such as the SAS and JTF-2. The Army Ranger Wing won the overall international categories at the US Army International Sniper Competition was hosted in Fort Benning, Georgia - making them the best sniper team in the world.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/watch-american-medias-shocked-reaction-6708316

    They served in plenty of theatres most of which are not public knowledge. They like to keep quiet, and there was a 'rumor' recently around that they were caught in Afghanistan with some American forces when they shouldn't have been, of course just a rumor. I've spoken to a few of them and they mentioned their snipers do a lot overseas in the vein of Recce and Intel. I was out of the DF by then but I can tell you in the ARW did a lot of covert stuff with other AF. Iraq and Afghanistan are two examples that spring to mind. One of the original reasons was the large amount of Arabic speakers and middle Eastern contacts they had from 20 years in the Lebanon with the UN. Something that the other Western forces didn't have and the glowies needed

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >making them the best sniper team in the world.
      kek someone post the russian tank world champion

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You know your military force is good, when it's "rumor" they have actually done something.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        "Our guys totally killed some illiterate farmers in afghanistan but they cant talk about it and there are no pictures or evidence stop asking" seems to be a theme with armies that dont do shit, I've heard the same cope from bosnians

        • 2 years ago
          Eurosatory Anon

          Bosnians stacked Serb bodies during the 90s and did end up deploying to Iraq so I'd believe it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        "Our guys totally killed some illiterate farmers in afghanistan but they cant talk about it and there are no pictures or evidence stop asking" seems to be a theme with armies that dont do shit, I've heard the same cope from bosnians

        Dickhead I never said they were the best in the world and I served between 1994 and 2000 before COD or any of the bullshit. I can tell you never served as you would know about the ARW and what they did. Also the regular Irish army lost over 100 soliders in the Leb. I really hate you armchair analysts who don't know shit but think they are experts in their own head.

        Also I still work in the private sector with ex special forces and glowies from around the world in Cyber security. Work I do all over the globe from contacts I made in my army days. Explain that if we were just shitting around the place like you claim.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit, a competition and a rumour?!

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Irish Army Ranger Wing or ARW have been involved in a lot of UN peacekeeping missions from East Timor,Libera,Mali and C.A.R

    >From 2006 to 2014, it has been reported that operatives from the ARW, including from the Intelligence Section and Military Intelligence Directorate, had been on the ground in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Sudan, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Kosovo and Bosnia-Herzegovina as part of various international missions.

    >In 2012, it was reported that the ARW could deploy 30 Rangers in the Gulf of Aden, subject to Government, Dáil and UN approval ("triple-lock"), to protect international shipping lanes against Somali pirates as part of the EU's Operation Atalanta.

    >As of 2014, Rangers were serving missions on three continents, including training foreign forces in Africa and the Balkans, protection duties in Lebanon for the United Nations mission and security and intelligence operations on the Israeli-Syrian border (Golan Heights).

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For an army as small as Ireland it's amazing how they can create a such world class special forces unit. They won the U.S. Sniper competition a year or two ago I believe and perform well internationally in other competitions and joint training operations.

    They actually do shit from time to time as part of the UN Peacekeepers as a more competent member.

    Apparently the Irish were part of the response team sent when those Flip UN troops got besieged in the Golan Heights to extract them.

    Allegedly, and this is a big allegedly, they accompanied their British equivalents as observers when PIRA were attempting cross border operations in the 1980s. There's a lot of cross training since then, too.

    They prevented paramilitary violence from northern Ireland spreading into the Republic for 25 years and they did it quietly and effectively. They won so hard there is no one from the loosing sides left to whinge about it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well this actually happened and a guy I know was part of the Unit that rescued the Filipino UN troops in the Golan Heights that were besieged by ISIS. Per him, they went in with Mowags equipped with heat sensors and 50 cal'd all the ISIS guys until none were left. Then pissed on the bodies. Both the Indian and Dutch troops were supposed to support us but chickened out. Only the Irish were willing to go and destroyed them. I want there but he was and that's good version

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If anything, there's a general trend that a small and/or "neglected" army tends to produce world-class infantry and special forces. People always has a good thing to say about Canadian, Kiwi and Irish infantry despite being materially inadequate.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They prevented paramilitary violence from northern Ireland spreading into the Republic for 25 years and they did it quietly and effectively. They won so hard there is no one from the loosing sides left to whinge about it.

      Its notable that one of the provisions of the 2015 defence agreement included the Irish Army training the British Army in peacekeeping operations.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Russia

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Irish are pathetic as frick.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ireland has great sharpshooters though. People tend to forget they were a second world nation like 20 years ago.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ireland was in the Warsaw Pact 10 years after it dissolved?

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The bongs

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly it's hard to find one as bad and misfunded as RoI

    • 2 years ago
      Anon

      The Anglos come pretty close.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not at all, the UK has the strongest military in NATO that isn't the US. There are poor purchases like all nations but that doesn't stop them from being up there.

        • 2 years ago
          Anon

          >the UK has the strongest military in NATO that isn't the US
          The Finns are about to give them a run for their money.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The IDF managed what the SAS could not, complete defeat of terror groups who tried anything in southern Ireland. Meanwhile the SAS tended to get lost and could not even read a map

          >"Eventually it was decided that the eight men should be taken under heavy armed escort to Dundalk as Omeath was not suitable to contain them. The armed escort delivered the eight to Dundalk during the night, but it was almost twelve hours later at lunch time on Thursday, May 6th that news first leaked out in Dublin that the Gardai, with the assistance of the Army, had arrested a fully-armed SAS unit in civilian clothing near Omeath."

          >"The alert Garda, in compliance with his duty, ordered the men to step out of the car. They were very reluctant until, unknown to the men, members of the Irish Army, rifles at the ready, stepped out of the bushes when they realised that the Garda’s instructions were not being obeyed.

          >Surrounded in their car by Irish soldiers pointing rifles at them, the men’s attitude dramatically changed. They stepped out of the car and meekly submitted. When the Garda searched their vehicle they were surprised to discover two sub machine guns, pump action shotguns and a number of hand guns."

          https://www.independent.ie/regionals/argus/localnotes/night-gardai-and-army-arrested-eight-armed-sas-men-in-omeath-26905231.html

          SAS my hole. The PIRA ran amock in northern Ireland the Rangers of the Irish Army made certain that they could not in the Republic. If anything the SAS should lean from the experts who succeeded where they failed utterly. I guess that's where too many shitty movies about the Iranian embassy siege and books about playing hide and seek with goat frickers gets you

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Slovenian army...
    But Pilatus dogfights would be kino

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >ireland is so cucked for not funding their military!!!!!1!1!1!1!
    but honestly why would they? What counterargument is there? They don’t have any global ambitions. Nobody’s gonna bother attacking them. All they need is some counterterror shit really. It wouldn’t hurt to have a few jets and a slightly beefier navy, but they don’t need anything on the level of Singapore who might have a hot war right in their backyard in a few years.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Seamus Cope

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Irish Army guys I’ve met have been fricking crazy. I met one guy who was able to drink whiskey for 48 hours straight then march perfectly in a parade. Mad respect for the lads.

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