Is there a single argument for short-barreled weapon bans that isn't based on pure speculation about concealability?

Is there a single argument for short-barreled weapon bans that isn't based on pure speculation about concealability?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    basically that criminals are going to do it anyway, and that it would be a nice juicy charge to stack against them. it's not a good argument, but its likely the thinking for keeping it around, in addition to the increased taxes they can levy on law abiding citizens who want to do it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well yeah but I meant logical reason, like one someone with a brain would come up with, not a bureaucratic reason

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        you already know the answer to that, which is no

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That's why I was asking other autists. I myself can't think of a simple crime involving a long gun that would've been any different had it been short, and
          >but there'd be more if short ones were legal!
          Is based on thin air

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >simple
            Single

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You can't tax a right. The NFA is unconstitutional and the government needs to be purged (with violence).

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes you could make the case for banning all modern modular weapons systems for being "readily convertible" just like the NFA nonsense about machine guns.
    The caselaw lines right up.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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    Being anti-antisemitic is pro-gun control at this rate.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there a single argument for short-barreled weapon bans that isn't based on pure speculation about concealability?
    Sawn off shotguns were very big for bank robberies in the 60/70s not just in the USA but in Europe as well. Each nation dealt with the problem differently. Now? really irrelevant, banks Don;t have easy cash, screens and barriers, CCTV etc etc but sawn off shotguns and bank robbery were very much as thing for decades. You can walk into a bank with one under a coat

    https://www.google.com/search?q=sawn+off+shotgun+bank+robbery

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      To add to this, a pawn shop shotgun was often the very cheapest functional firearm available and cutting it down made it a workable robbery option. Banning sawnoffs was intended to stop first offences as any successful robber could pay cash for a BAR or something.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's quite something have a sawn off pointed at you in earnest. Even Dillinger used them

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >It's quite something have a sawn off pointed at you in earnest.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      don't forget the mafia and the lupara after WWI, eggplants were sawing off hunting guns and murking people left and right in Scilily, and they brought their theiving murderous chimping ways with them when they invaded the East Coast

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It is not speculation. concealability (and the use from moving vehicles) are the fears addressed by SBR/SBS regulations and they are quite real.
      think it is an accident that joggers are in love with mini-dracos? no, it is not

      Of course handguns are also very popular for this for obvious reasons. A gun is a gun when it's pointed at you. I'd react the same to a micro-compact .380 or an AK pistol being pointed at me

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It is not speculation. concealability (and the use from moving vehicles) are the fears addressed by SBR/SBS regulations and they are quite real.
    think it is an accident that joggers are in love with mini-dracos? no, it is not

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      And restricting them with the penalty of law seems to be working so well. Maybe next they can make murder illegal. Then nobody will kill people for fear of behaving criminally.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wide spread

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    prevents lawful citizens from falling for the short-barreled memes
    CA has a similar set of laws, e.g. mag capacity bans, meant to enforce reloading practice

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    None really. Concealability is the only reason.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Someone pls tell me if the curio and relic exemption for stocks is still intact after the ban
    I don’t want to have to buy a surplus stock and then destroy it or sell it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I would help but the ATF intentionally words their bills weird as hell so I'd probably come to a completely different and wrong conclusion if I tried to tell you

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Is it just safer to get a regular holster? I don’t want them to take it away after I went though all this trouble

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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    they deleted him because he told the truth
    all moderation is israelite gloating

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