basically that criminals are going to do it anyway, and that it would be a nice juicy charge to stack against them. it's not a good argument, but its likely the thinking for keeping it around, in addition to the increased taxes they can levy on law abiding citizens who want to do it.
That's why I was asking other autists. I myself can't think of a simple crime involving a long gun that would've been any different had it been short, and >but there'd be more if short ones were legal!
Is based on thin air
Yes you could make the case for banning all modern modular weapons systems for being "readily convertible" just like the NFA nonsense about machine guns.
The caselaw lines right up.
>Is there a single argument for short-barreled weapon bans that isn't based on pure speculation about concealability?
Sawn off shotguns were very big for bank robberies in the 60/70s not just in the USA but in Europe as well. Each nation dealt with the problem differently. Now? really irrelevant, banks Don;t have easy cash, screens and barriers, CCTV etc etc but sawn off shotguns and bank robbery were very much as thing for decades. You can walk into a bank with one under a coat
To add to this, a pawn shop shotgun was often the very cheapest functional firearm available and cutting it down made it a workable robbery option. Banning sawnoffs was intended to stop first offences as any successful robber could pay cash for a BAR or something.
don't forget the mafia and the lupara after WWI, eggplants were sawing off hunting guns and murking people left and right in Scilily, and they brought their theiving murderous chimping ways with them when they invaded the East Coast
It is not speculation. concealability (and the use from moving vehicles) are the fears addressed by SBR/SBS regulations and they are quite real.
think it is an accident that joggers are in love with mini-dracos? no, it is not
Of course handguns are also very popular for this for obvious reasons. A gun is a gun when it's pointed at you. I'd react the same to a micro-compact .380 or an AK pistol being pointed at me
It is not speculation. concealability (and the use from moving vehicles) are the fears addressed by SBR/SBS regulations and they are quite real.
think it is an accident that joggers are in love with mini-dracos? no, it is not
And restricting them with the penalty of law seems to be working so well. Maybe next they can make murder illegal. Then nobody will kill people for fear of behaving criminally.
prevents lawful citizens from falling for the short-barreled memes
CA has a similar set of laws, e.g. mag capacity bans, meant to enforce reloading practice
Someone pls tell me if the curio and relic exemption for stocks is still intact after the ban
I don’t want to have to buy a surplus stock and then destroy it or sell it
I would help but the ATF intentionally words their bills weird as hell so I'd probably come to a completely different and wrong conclusion if I tried to tell you
Yeah
basically that criminals are going to do it anyway, and that it would be a nice juicy charge to stack against them. it's not a good argument, but its likely the thinking for keeping it around, in addition to the increased taxes they can levy on law abiding citizens who want to do it.
Well yeah but I meant logical reason, like one someone with a brain would come up with, not a bureaucratic reason
you already know the answer to that, which is no
That's why I was asking other autists. I myself can't think of a simple crime involving a long gun that would've been any different had it been short, and
>but there'd be more if short ones were legal!
Is based on thin air
>simple
Single
You can't tax a right. The NFA is unconstitutional and the government needs to be purged (with violence).
Yes you could make the case for banning all modern modular weapons systems for being "readily convertible" just like the NFA nonsense about machine guns.
The caselaw lines right up.
Being anti-antisemitic is pro-gun control at this rate.
>Is there a single argument for short-barreled weapon bans that isn't based on pure speculation about concealability?
Sawn off shotguns were very big for bank robberies in the 60/70s not just in the USA but in Europe as well. Each nation dealt with the problem differently. Now? really irrelevant, banks Don;t have easy cash, screens and barriers, CCTV etc etc but sawn off shotguns and bank robbery were very much as thing for decades. You can walk into a bank with one under a coat
https://www.google.com/search?q=sawn+off+shotgun+bank+robbery
To add to this, a pawn shop shotgun was often the very cheapest functional firearm available and cutting it down made it a workable robbery option. Banning sawnoffs was intended to stop first offences as any successful robber could pay cash for a BAR or something.
It's quite something have a sawn off pointed at you in earnest. Even Dillinger used them
>It's quite something have a sawn off pointed at you in earnest.
don't forget the mafia and the lupara after WWI, eggplants were sawing off hunting guns and murking people left and right in Scilily, and they brought their theiving murderous chimping ways with them when they invaded the East Coast
Of course handguns are also very popular for this for obvious reasons. A gun is a gun when it's pointed at you. I'd react the same to a micro-compact .380 or an AK pistol being pointed at me
It is not speculation. concealability (and the use from moving vehicles) are the fears addressed by SBR/SBS regulations and they are quite real.
think it is an accident that joggers are in love with mini-dracos? no, it is not
And restricting them with the penalty of law seems to be working so well. Maybe next they can make murder illegal. Then nobody will kill people for fear of behaving criminally.
Wide spread
prevents lawful citizens from falling for the short-barreled memes
CA has a similar set of laws, e.g. mag capacity bans, meant to enforce reloading practice
None really. Concealability is the only reason.
Someone pls tell me if the curio and relic exemption for stocks is still intact after the ban
I don’t want to have to buy a surplus stock and then destroy it or sell it
I would help but the ATF intentionally words their bills weird as hell so I'd probably come to a completely different and wrong conclusion if I tried to tell you
Is it just safer to get a regular holster? I don’t want them to take it away after I went though all this trouble
they deleted him because he told the truth
all moderation is israelite gloating