It's a frozen conflict where the remaining parties have more to lose than gain by upsetting the status quo. ISIS is going full Taliban in the desert after pissing off the entire world and getting obliterated for it, Assad is supported by minorities who don't want to be slaughtered by the Sunni population, and then there's the Kurds who are fine with their autonomy and the Turks who want to control the border areas to both piss off the Kurds and resettle refugees. Maybe it will change now that Russia is getting its shit pushed in and Assad can't rely on them anymore. He'll still have Iran and Hezbollah supporting him though.
Because escalation to the point where one side can actually win violates laws of war. There are many wars which can never be won without genocide which is frowned on.
Because back in the day they would escalate into big boy nations coming in to swing their dick, but now all big boy nations have nukes
Ukraine war would be over in June if it weren't for nukes with the US Europe contingent rolling over
Because the UN and general dictatorial moronation (remember, most UN members are dictatorships) have a spastic aversion to changing borders.
"Oh my god, the Europeans ruined Africa! Look how terrible the borders are!"
THEN FRICKING CHANGE THEM. They've had 70 goddamn years at this point.
>implying Russia wasn't in the right in Syria
I'm against Russia now because they are trying to overthrow an elected government, I was with Russia in Syria because they were stopping the overthrow of an elected government.
If you think nations have the right to self determination you'll quickly find there are no "good guys" and every power will overthrow popular governments for their own gain.
This is why I'm honestly happy about Ukraine, the west are being the good guys for the first time in a long time and it's nice to not be the bad guys for once.
>I was with Russia in Syria because they were stopping the overthrow of an elected government.
Russia was trying to stop *a government* in Syria from being overthrown, it wasn't popularity elected and never has been.
Doesn't mean the US was or is right in Syria either. But the Assads are a hereditary dynasty that was never elected.
Hafez al-Assad was part of a military coup and eventually became leader through alliances and maneuvering within it. His son Bashar al-Assad merely inherited the throne. They're from a fringe religious minority that would never win fair elections.
The UN claimed the 2014 election was free and fair until 2016 when they started calling him a dictator.
Personally I have no idea if it was, I'm not Syrian but it's interesting how they changed their tune after political pressure from the US.
>they changed their tune after political pressure from the US.
Pretty sure it was after he started clinging to power by using his military on his own people
Edgy. Assad wasn't elected. The people of Syria rose up in a grassroots outcry for democracy. Russia stepped in to quash a vulnerable fledgling democracy, and Trump failed to stop it. Go leave vatnig
People should stop comparing Europe and the US to the middle-east. We're literally nothing alike. Saying one side in sandBlack person war is right and other is wrong is hard, when both sides are literally abhorrent subhumans.
I can see that Russia could see itself in a middle-eastern country (poor populace, petro state, one party (others are just memes) dictatorship), but in reality even Russia sees the middle-east as a resource.
And what becomes to Assad, Gaddafi and Saddam. They were openly Anti-West, what the frick did they except the west would do? We as free people hold out leaders responcible for their actions, in the middle-east they don't, the people exist for the leader not other way around. When US attacked Iraq it can be justified by the fact that the Iraqis didn't overthrow their leader themselves, thats how the first Gulf War ended.
There's a cultural gap thats too far to be defined. Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad deserved what was coming for them and the people from those countries are just victims of their own inaction.
Is the drug war in Northern Mexico over yet? It's been years
Is the proxy war in Yemen over yet? It's been years
Is the war in the DRC over yet? It's been years
Is the war in Myanmar over yet? It's been years
Is the war in Ethiopia over yet? It's been years
Is the Korean war over yet? It's been years
Is the cold civil war in the US over yet? It's been years
At this point it isn't a war, just a daily thing.
It's a frozen conflict where the remaining parties have more to lose than gain by upsetting the status quo. ISIS is going full Taliban in the desert after pissing off the entire world and getting obliterated for it, Assad is supported by minorities who don't want to be slaughtered by the Sunni population, and then there's the Kurds who are fine with their autonomy and the Turks who want to control the border areas to both piss off the Kurds and resettle refugees. Maybe it will change now that Russia is getting its shit pushed in and Assad can't rely on them anymore. He'll still have Iran and Hezbollah supporting him though.
Why do conflicts freeze in the modern day? Why does it happen so much in the third world?
Because escalation to the point where one side can actually win violates laws of war. There are many wars which can never be won without genocide which is frowned on.
Because back in the day they would escalate into big boy nations coming in to swing their dick, but now all big boy nations have nukes
Ukraine war would be over in June if it weren't for nukes with the US Europe contingent rolling over
Because the UN and general dictatorial moronation (remember, most UN members are dictatorships) have a spastic aversion to changing borders.
"Oh my god, the Europeans ruined Africa! Look how terrible the borders are!"
THEN FRICKING CHANGE THEM. They've had 70 goddamn years at this point.
Don’t forget israel popping in every other day to take a diarrhea crap on some poor Iranian weapons shipment
Aside from the first line and the last line, the rest of this post is shit.
Near East and Middle East are interchangeable. The former is the correct historical term, the latter is modern political term.
>Is the Syrian war over yet?
No
Who's the southeast green part?
Burger owned rebels just for the sake of pissing off Assad.
it's a bit like the simpsons. Never really stopped but everyone stopped watching
>Is the Syrian war over yet?
>is the [middle east shithole] war over?
No
syria is near east fricktard
the whole levant region is nowhere near "middle east", its the furthest west bit of the asian continent
>is it brown
>is it muslim
>is it shithole
it's the middle east
inshallah, may the spirit of khalid ibn al-walid oversee the destruction of yurop and its colonies
>its the furthest west bit of the asian continent
That's Apulia
The Levantine is the Middle East
The refuges are never going home are they?
>literal vatnik propaganda image from /misc/
Go back
>implying Russia wasn't in the right in Syria
I'm against Russia now because they are trying to overthrow an elected government, I was with Russia in Syria because they were stopping the overthrow of an elected government.
If you think nations have the right to self determination you'll quickly find there are no "good guys" and every power will overthrow popular governments for their own gain.
This is why I'm honestly happy about Ukraine, the west are being the good guys for the first time in a long time and it's nice to not be the bad guys for once.
>I was with Russia in Syria because they were stopping the overthrow of an elected government.
Russia was trying to stop *a government* in Syria from being overthrown, it wasn't popularity elected and never has been.
Doesn't mean the US was or is right in Syria either. But the Assads are a hereditary dynasty that was never elected.
Hafez al-Assad was part of a military coup and eventually became leader through alliances and maneuvering within it. His son Bashar al-Assad merely inherited the throne. They're from a fringe religious minority that would never win fair elections.
The UN claimed the 2014 election was free and fair until 2016 when they started calling him a dictator.
Personally I have no idea if it was, I'm not Syrian but it's interesting how they changed their tune after political pressure from the US.
>they changed their tune after political pressure from the US.
Pretty sure it was after he started clinging to power by using his military on his own people
Assad is the best for Syria like sadam was the best for Iraq
that's the best part, Assad murdered his father and brother to get into his current position.
Edgy. Assad wasn't elected. The people of Syria rose up in a grassroots outcry for democracy. Russia stepped in to quash a vulnerable fledgling democracy, and Trump failed to stop it. Go leave vatnig
>elected government
>torturing children for vandalism and then machine gunning unarmed people in the streets for calling you out on it.
children for vandalism and then machine gunning unarmed people in the streets for calling you out on it.
that is a good thing vandalism should result in the death penalty
People should stop comparing Europe and the US to the middle-east. We're literally nothing alike. Saying one side in sandBlack person war is right and other is wrong is hard, when both sides are literally abhorrent subhumans.
I can see that Russia could see itself in a middle-eastern country (poor populace, petro state, one party (others are just memes) dictatorship), but in reality even Russia sees the middle-east as a resource.
And what becomes to Assad, Gaddafi and Saddam. They were openly Anti-West, what the frick did they except the west would do? We as free people hold out leaders responcible for their actions, in the middle-east they don't, the people exist for the leader not other way around. When US attacked Iraq it can be justified by the fact that the Iraqis didn't overthrow their leader themselves, thats how the first Gulf War ended.
There's a cultural gap thats too far to be defined. Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad deserved what was coming for them and the people from those countries are just victims of their own inaction.
assad family never elected by peoples u dumb frick. 5 min wiki reading about assad family would tell you that.
Shalom
Assad simps are just pathetic to be fair, we all know the true fate of Syria is just to be Israel's and Turkey's playground when testing weapons
Is the drug war in Northern Mexico over yet? It's been years
Is the proxy war in Yemen over yet? It's been years
Is the war in the DRC over yet? It's been years
Is the war in Myanmar over yet? It's been years
Is the war in Ethiopia over yet? It's been years
Is the Korean war over yet? It's been years
Is the cold civil war in the US over yet? It's been years
>Russians
>Being able to call in CAS within a day
As long as Russia is tied down in Syria, it can't commit as much to Ukraine.
Just like Iraq and Afghanistan. Wars in middle eastern countries don't end.