that new general should've thought of some strange way of pronouncing Ori just to keep the meme going
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the Oreee?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Oh-Rye? The O'ruh'ee? The Orry?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I can't wait for the new series bros
Have you not seen any TV recently then? A new Stargate would be a horror show.
I'd like to reserve judgement until actually seeing the new series. I'd rather have a new series than nothing at all, it's better that they at least try. Eventually we will get something worth watching. Until then I've at least got what they've made already.
Wtf new series? A Stargate: SG1 reboot?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>A Stargate: SG1 reboot?
It's been on hold since 2020, and it's set later in the timeline, after the stargate has gone public on Earth.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can wait. The first series was rode pretty fricking hard.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>A Stargate: SG1 reboot?
It's been on hold since 2020, and it's set later in the timeline, after the stargate has gone public on Earth.
yeah that's definitely true. Since it's the same writer I hope that there's higher odds of it being good. No guarantees though.
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yeah specifically due to the ongoing merger which was completed. So in theory now it could get unblocked. Did Brad ever say that directly btw? I vaguely remember reading that a year ago but can't recall
nvm answered my own question, this new article restates that: https://www.gateworld.net/news/2022/07/fourth-stargate-series-would-introduce-unique-gate/
2 years ago
Anonymous
I hope they don't bring back that nasty wasty old man.
Theoretically as a "carry a lot shoot a little" its not a bad choice. Admittedly with how often SG teams get into fights they may have wanted to start investing in proper rifles I'd say a bullpup with a 20in barrel in 5.56 would probably be optimal. Short and easy to keep out of the way as they don't need them too often, still capable of reaching out at distance since most of the time they are hitting up relatively open and undeveloped worlds and the few times you end up in some wried ruin its once again not going to be too much of a bother.
I mean their armor was designed to stop plasma blasts, not high velocity projectiles. I think they cover it in one of the episodes. Basically none of the system lords were so primitive as to sling metal at high velocity so why design armor against it?
nah bringing guns is moronic
realistically while exploring stargates either the civilization on the other side is so advanced that guns are obsolete against them or so primitive that they can easily be spotted by a drone and examined before contact is made face to face.
its kind of like those people arguing that earth should build defensive weapons because some of the UFOs sighted are extraterrestrial aliens. any civilization capable of interstellar travel would find it trivial to make earth uninhabitable to humans
nah bringing guns is moronic
realistically while exploring stargates either the civilization on the other side is so advanced that guns are obsolete against them or so primitive that they can easily be spotted by a drone and examined before contact is made face to face.
its kind of like those people arguing that earth should build defensive weapons because some of the UFOs sighted are extraterrestrial aliens. any civilization capable of interstellar travel would find it trivial to make earth uninhabitable to humans
yes bringing guns to an alien world where you have no clue if there is dangerous fauna is moronic...
yep
if anything a hazmat suit is far more important.most of the network worlds have human compatible biospheres but many have been isolated for thousands of years and have diverged.
you're very likely to dtop dead within minutes or bring back some long incubation time stargate-corona that will spread outside stargate command before it's detectible.
There are times the team wears hazmat when going. It should happen more often but I get they want to show off the actors. Stargate will always be top tier for the episode where they drop nerve gas through a gate and kill all the Jaffa guarding it before proceeding with hazmat gear.
yea its movie shit, they make up some excuse as to why they dont need hazmats.
its the same with moviesshows in space. anyone expecting combat will put on a spacesuit expecting hull breaches and loss of atmosphere but in movies/shows characters keep going without suits because they wanna show the actors face.
stargate had this problem too although parts of stargate universe were more grounded in that regard
I'll always appreciate Gundam for having crewmen actually bother to put on spacesuits when going into combat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
it help that the spacesuit are likely easier to draw that anime fashion.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yea
honestly i really noticed it when i read the expanse and later when the show came out
2 years ago
Anonymous
I fricking love the expanse, i want nothing more than a game where you and 4-5 friends crew a single ship and fight it out with another group of players in the same kind of ships with similar capabilities
>tfw they do have spacesuit/anykindoffacemask but has lights inside that blind the shit out the person but show some face for the camera
2 years ago
Anonymous
yea it's moronic
especially if it's supposed to be a suspenseful scene where they explore a dark environment because the light inside the visor would reflect and block the view outside
>biosphere
They're probably in greater danger of US bringing some pathogen to them than us. Earth is the homeworld of humanity, and as such all the microorganisms that evolved to exploit is also from here. Any slavers would ensure that their livestock are not dying from the sniffles and would ensure that communicable diseases would be stamped out. Additionally any truly "alien" worlds biota would either do absolutely nothing or trigger your bodies immune system so hard that you'd die from shock rather than the organism itself. >episode of wasp things
Oh yeah that was really bad.
The need for slaves would be made obsolete by technology except for cultural reasons. If you can build an interstellar space craft you can build a better Black person robot.
The Gould were parasites. They liked humans because not only were we easy to repair, easy to frighten and enslave through fear and superstition (a cultural value the head snakes were HUGE on) but they liked LIVING in us. They even used us for sexual purposes because if you’re a ten thousand year old brain stem parasite why not try out some inter species nonconsensual mind control racial cuckoldry pregnancy tentacle fetish shit?
the entire point of Stargate was that the Aliens were so much more advanced that the thought of preparing for any sort of small scale warfare never occurs to them. Them having defenses against ballistic weapons would be like us having defenses against knights on horseback. Both the Goa'uld and the Asgard fight their wars in space, only engaging in minor policing actions on the ground. The only reason the humans even stood a chance is because the Goa'uld were unable to attack Earth with their navy due to the Asgard.
>would be like us having defenses against knights on horseback.
we do tho
theyre called guns, if for some reason spears or knights on horseback became militarily viable they'd come back immediately. this 'theyre so technologically advanced that they became moronic' idea of stargate is just dumb
Having a gun does not make you immune to being shot with a gun...
2 years ago
Anonymous
no but they would get around staff-weapon-blocking devices
The series explained that conventional small arms were a sidegrade development unique to Earth because most other civilizations went to energy weapons pretty early in their histories owing to Naquada being present on their planets.
that is never said anywhere, naquada planets are very rare and those that arent gould slave colonies mining it probably dont know wtf to do with it.
sg-1 also encounter multiple civilizations with guns
2 years ago
Anonymous
gould would just make some guns
its a moronic plot device
They wouldn't for 2 reasons >Gooooold steal most of their tech except for a few outliers >goooolds are twice as arrogant and narcissistic as the average glowie. >They're also half crazy from the constant sarcophagus use. >they are just as incompetent as the average US politician
ok, let me give you an analogy. Imagine you're a second world post soviet rump state. You're constantly fighting with other post soviet rump states. Then some random third world shithole that borders you starts sending in literal knights on horseback to attack you. In addition the U.S. has said it will step in if you directly attack the knight's country. You're also currently at war with a few neighboring states, so you can't afford to divert enough resources to completely cover your border with the third world nation. On top of all of this, your local populace despises you and will gladly turn on you if given the means.
So now, various towns near the border regularly get attacked by strike teams of knights on horseback. Your soldiers are all on the opposite side of the country dealing with much bigger threats so the local police forces have to deal with it. The local cops have guns, but they're trained to deal with rioters, not organized military forces and the towns are not fortified at all.
So what keeps happening is the knights will ride in and attack some random town. They'll begin fighting the local cops with their bows and crossbows. The cops may have better weapons, but they're outmaneuvered because of a complete lack of strategy. Then the knights give out the cops weapons to the locals and tell them they're free. Finally they ride back across the border safely out of your reach.
By the time you would be able to mobilize any kind of response the knights have already left. Then all you can do is send in the army to recapture the liberated town.
They're mostly ceremonial troops. They're there to kick the shit out of primitive slaves, die gloriously in their gods wars, and look cool standing around their gods palaces. The effectiveness of the staff is less important than its aesthetics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But that doesn't actually answer my question, why give your ceremonial slave beaters a sidearm ten thousand times stronger than their laser musket?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>why give your ceremonial slave beaters a sidearm ten thousand times stronger than their laser musket?
I don't think that was ever addressed in setting, but if you're asking me I think that the Zat was probably designed for controlling the slaves, and the staff was designed to look cool and make the Goold feel important as they watch their honour guard drill with them. If you're asking about the 'three shots disintegrates' thing then I assume that was some lazy writing they didn't really think through for the early episode where they needed to hide some Jaffa bodies, but couldn't be bothered to give us a 5 second scene of O'Neil dragging an unconscious/dead Jaffa into a closet.
Yeah, but it's a pretty moronic explanation. Just because an explanation exists in-universe doesn't make it a good one, or anything more than the writer doing a quick cope to cover a plot-hole
as the series went on the plot holes started forming. The original movie makes sense. Ra had ruled that desert planet unopposed for millenia. The locals were all too scared to ever rebel and even if they did, his Jaffa and death gliders would be more than enough to deal with a bunch of untrained peasants with farming tools. The problem was when a trained military force with decent weapons showed up. He was completely unprepared to deal with any actual resistance on account of not having any enemies for thousands of years.
The series explained that conventional small arms were a sidegrade development unique to Earth because most other civilizations went to energy weapons pretty early in their histories owing to Naquada being present on their planets.
Honestly you are incorrect. Some primitive weapons would cause massive headaches for modern armies. The same is true alien civs facing us.
Bi planes for instance caused us major headaches in Korea for the US, to the Germans on the Eastern front, and according to most military analysts would do so today. We don't design our defenses to fight such obsolete trash. So they can exploit it.
I thought the whole point of how the Jaffa got their asses kicked, despite their sci-fi space kit, was that for the last few thousand years they had mostly been used as glorified MPs and for borderline ritualised battles/ego-displays between their various 'gods' and were suddenly going up against special forces style assaults that they just weren't trained or equipped to deal with?
It's a bit like Cortes's expedition, not only did they have better weapons and tactics but they also didn't go by the mesoamerican rules of war (No nightfighting, try to capture prisoners for sacrifice)
and not pissing off everyone around you with sacrifice raids to make it EZ for any external power with a runny nose to coalition of the willing your ass
>Bi planes for instance caused us major headaches in Korea for the US, to the Germans on the Eastern front
You mean the eastern front where German pilots racked up like 500 kills?
They used the gun because it had the cheapest blanks available after the show was lightly asked to please stop using so much 9mm, since it was hindering real military training for the then new GWoT.
Stargate swap to the p90 when Clinton was still president.
you're thinking of when producetion ran out of 5.7mm blank because of Afghanistan and Iraq, and Carter had to use a Frankenstein SBR for a while.
No.
Wrist Mounted Storm Bolters with Hellfire ordnance in the left receiver and Inferno ordnance in the right. Best for destroying Xenos.
Any other choices are Heresy.
It's time to grow the frick up, you're an adult and it's about time you started acting like it. Me and your mom are tired of your constant yelling and screaming about orange man all night long from the basement, shut up or you're getting booted.
love seeing these kneejerk reactions pop up despite it being 2022 and the orange guy being irrelevant.
shut up Black person 2016 saw a huge substanceless uptick in the 40k fanbase. nothing but Holy Based Battle Brother Kyle of the Week this or God Emprah Trump to the sound of that Sabaton templar song that.
your least/most favorite president isn't some taboo that nobody ever gets to bring up the consequences of.
I for one am more frustrated by warhammer as a setting
I like some elements of it but I grow increasingly tired of the moronic grimderp and stupid shit in it for the sake of it, like the IG being powerful mostly by just throwing bodies at the problem, or no one developing ANY new technologies because.... heresy, I guess, even if it really isn't new technology being developed but a different type of poison gas or new tank mod
idfk part of it could be solved by more freedom in the setting but it seems like most people now in the hobby are happy to conform to GW's stagnation
2 years ago
Anonymous
>idfk part of it could be solved by more freedom in the setting but it seems like most people now in the hobby are happy to conform to GW's stagnation
Thats the point of the setting. It was written as a parody of grinders at first. Everything IS stagnated and freedom DOES lead to heresy and Chaos. There is only war.
Especially since the little parasites were far more focused fighting each other and their massive warships, which would have utterly shredded human resistance (early on) were fairly rare. It’s sort of like asking how the frick drug runners in shitty garage made submarines can get into the US if the USN has nuclear submarines and super carriers. That was why humans were always so focused on stealing stuff. Because to them, even a ghetto, ancient, busted to shit warship that they could turn into the space version of a Toyota hilux technical was a huge upgrade in capability. To say nothing of the Asgard NO FLY ZONE shit around Earth. All in all, I think that series covered it’s own plot holes pretty well.
Good take.
I like how the Jaffa are basically wearing chainmail and snake/jackal/eagle shaped NODS. Of all you expect to fight is primitives with Spears and swords, theyre kitted out fairly well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Which is why Anubis’s mechanized Jaffa army is such a dope turn of events.
It would be nice to have seen things razed and humanity being caught flat footed.
>P90 cuts a fricking log in half with one burst
Maybe whatever kind of Handwavium core ammunition they're using in setting makes the choice of primary firearm less moronic? That being said the P90 would make sense if SG1 was a non-combat diplomatic/research team - and considering that they rarely go three offworld missions in a row without getting into a heavy duty firefight/getting captured/blowing up a hostile capital ship etc that's clearly the wrong call for them.
You know that a show needs more work when a random piece of crossover fanfic makes more sense than the official canon.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3631062/1/XSGCOM-Mirror-Image
Except SG-1 is actually noted as a diplomatic, non-combat recon team. They even make note of it on a couple of episodes, and hang a lampshade on the fact that you don't see the boring missions so it only looks like they're involved in combat 95% of the time. They have Marine SG teams that carry rifles, explosives, and LMGs when they actually expect to have to shoot people.
Not him, but for the 2011 version of xcom, the only reason humanity is able to win is because the aliens are purposely drip feeding us technology, and that at the end of the game they are too dumb to consider that we aren’t breaking into their command room to wave a white flag.
Based and High Explosivepilled
I'll never forgive the reboot for not letting you flatten the map with gratuitous firepower
Canonically everything in xcom1 from developing laser weapons on is a brain simulation and the aliens successfully conquered the planet.
In what world? TFTD and Apocalypse both follow human victories.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's talking about the (crappy) new releases. I bet he even prefers it to Xenonauts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
XCOM, not X-COM. In the new series You canonically lose the base defense, are captured and put into a battle simulator and were being used against humanity.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah, there's the whole cryopod thing in the second modern one. I never really liked them making the Commander be a character.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Apocalypse
Here's a game I haven't heard about in decades. Also the second game I would boot up with the intention of razing the whole map in both strat and tactical layer.
The other game is of course Silent Storm.
Makes you think that they don't make destruction like that anymore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The OpenXCOM lads are working on an open version of Apocalypse currently, if you didn't know. I'm really excited to see what people do modding it.
Silent Storm is great too, yeah. I'm one of the few people who kinda liked the mecha, as janky as they were. Spraying down entire buildings with the quad-MG42 model was too much fun.
2 years ago
Anonymous
As for destruction, I honestly chalk it up to graphicswhoring. If shit wasn't so obsessed with being photorealistic it'd free up so much rendering power.
https://i.imgur.com/AbkZoTL.jpg
>Makes you think that they don't make destruction like that anymore.
There are all kinds of technical issues doing that with modern games, and they probably also don't want to let you off their plot rails that easily.
Also that, yeah, it actually requires the designer to take into account that the player might go through a wall rather than the doorway, and doesn't lend itself to being interrupted by scripted cutscenes every time you turn a corner.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Makes you think that they don't make destruction like that anymore.
There are all kinds of technical issues doing that with modern games, and they probably also don't want to let you off their plot rails that easily.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Red Faction Guerrilla tho
2 years ago
Anonymous
40 x blaster bombs
10 x blaster launchers
10 x heavy plasma (or heavy laser mix if you're stingy)
20 x heavy plasma clips
>suck
b***h I ironmanned both the PS2 and Xbox 360 version, plot armor and save scumming were baked into the plot due to the bullshit AI and RNG, something which reeks of shit writing. In order to beat Impossible difficulty is pure RNG and exploiting AI programming. >having to avoid terror missions
Bullshit call artillery. >XCOM being the only hope while other nations have veteran troops
You can get fricking troops that are superior to yours in the remake, so XCOM being supersoldiers is complete bullshit.
I do okay with the ladies but I have a nagging feeling i would turn into an 11 year old again if I met her in person. Does she do the convention circuit at all do you know? Asking for a friend.
weapon designed around symbolism and cultural heritage, used to evoke sense of dread among the enemy, either due to specific markings showing an elite force ala roman banners or the shape of the weapon being something like a lion or snake. gun is gun, gun shoots and that's it .symbolism doesn't win wars, guns do.
Theoretically as a "carry a lot shoot a little" its not a bad choice. Admittedly with how often SG teams get into fights they may have wanted to start investing in proper rifles I'd say a bullpup with a 20in barrel in 5.56 would probably be optimal. Short and easy to keep out of the way as they don't need them too often, still capable of reaching out at distance since most of the time they are hitting up relatively open and undeveloped worlds and the few times you end up in some wried ruin its once again not going to be too much of a bother.
The show literally says that 5.7 is better at armor penetration than 5.56 at one point, which is moronic but it's one of those situations where like, are you supposed to accept the "canon" of this universe when they tell you something directly?
Been a bit too long for me to remember that line. In that case yeah the P90 is pretty much ideal for their use. Small and fairly light and capable of carrying an absolute shit ton of ammo with minimal effort. Pretty much perfect for the role of SG teams mostly peacefully exploring with the occasional moment of pants shitty terror as way to many jaffa pop up
The real problem is that the team should be larger, consisting of something like a platoon minimum securing the far gate side. Not to mention better vehicle and drone support at the Patrol Base or ORP (whatever you want to call the far side gate).
Sure, send the SG team out to recon first (after drone and robot recon). But standing right behind them should be that platoon of infantry that set up a base camp around the far side gate before they leave.
Anon makes a good point about how they get into heavy combat so often, the counter explanation of 'but you do not see the boring missions' does not hold water. How often would a meet and greet mission have to go bad in Afghanistan before we would send them out with a serious security detail and armed heavily, with backup on call? SG shows far too many, heck, even if it only happened say one mission a year, we would still treat it like a combat mission.
Especially considering that the worst thing to happen on failure would not be losing the team, but losing our planet. Hell, far side tactical nuke as fail safe would not be extreme.
It wouldn't work for every mission - particularly the sneakier ones. The Goa'uld also like building their shit around the stargate, so the security force would have a LOT of Jaffa charging them pretty quickly. The failsafe nuke is probably excessive (and a very hard sell to the off world teams and Stargate Command); especially after the protected planets treaty and the iris.
Unironically retro M16 A1s would be a better choice. The P90 is a pistol replacement, not a stand in for a rifle. It was made for support troops not front line soldiers.
i'd like to dream that in the future, 5.7 rounds are using hybrid casing and the P90 upgraded from straight blowback to something better. Would be worth it
I'd love to see a non Earth human faction that is a dark version of SG1, a threat that is so dangerous because they also understand and get to use all the bullshit haxx Ancient technology.
There was a group of crab commando guys who were similar in tech to us that had the ability to disguise as others to yoink their tech. They gave every man a suicide bomb in case of capture, which their commanding officer used to cover his men's retreat, after saying some inspiring words (that we can't understand because he's a crab).
I thought it was weirder that they never mentioned Charlie the child Tok'ra again. I guess he was busy on The X-Files.
They have a habit of encountering a threat, defeating it once, then saying "Yeah we just put TERs in the gate room/just give everyone an extra injection/just add another xray screening/just test for this enzyme/just feel for a lump on the neck" and never mention it again lol
I like how it ignores all the times where they rolled in with MP5s, USAS-12s, M16/M203s, the Carter special, M249s etc. I vaguely remember somebody carrying a G3 or MSG90 at some point.
I think the P90 is just prominent enough in most peoples memories of the show that it just became 'The Stargate Gun'. If you were given command of the SGC (after they stopped having the budget problems) what loadout/s would you approve for SGC Offworld teams? What about when it becomes a global effort and you get the budget and clearance to start commissioning gear designed especially for Stargate use?
Yeah, always struck me as odd that they used Beretta's instead of Five-Sevens. Would simplify their supply chain and give them a handgun that can pierce Jaffa armor better to boot.
for SG-1's purposes they make sense, gotta travel light, need something that reliably kills goold though their armor, can carry a lot of ammo in a few mags. Real high speed low drag shit for the late 90's. For most missions the P90's work well. They also don't hesitate to travel heavy when the opportunity arises to rock and roll.
>don't hesitate to travel heavy when the opportunity arises to rock and roll.
I liked when they finally brought a couple of mortar crews through the gate.
Remember that time when all the 5.7x28 production capability was reserved for Iraq war and they had to switch to 5.56x45 for a while in the series?
In the universe, happened because of this.
They saved most for O'Neill's shooting scenes which they also toned down a bit to save blanks. This also brings out one interesting thing - they mostly didn't use special effects for guns in Stargate, they used blanks...the armorer of the set must have been /k/'s dream job!
its soo cool how the aliens fight differently, not necessarily better, those are almost like "musketters" bravelly stanting steady, its a really simple thing but makes you wonder about their minds, it adds a lot
also i am soo sorry for that but the idea of americans talking to extraterrestrial civilizations first always made me shiver cause they could cause such unprecedented diplomatic mess and just keep sillent about it lol
>also i am soo sorry for that but the idea of americans talking to extraterrestrial civilizations first always made me shiver cause they could cause such unprecedented diplomatic mess and just keep sillent about it lol
Do you know how insulted I would be as an alien if I found out that I had been negotiating with a pretend nation that existed only as a theme park and protectorate state of the world hegemoy?
>travel light
they travel by stargate, they don't walk, weight is pretty much irrelevant >pierce armor
The go'a'oul'd as opponents were a joke - if 5.7 works reliably, they were unarmored and armor piercing capability was irrelevant. If it was relevant, they'd have used an intermediate or rifle round.
>they travel by stargate, they don't walk, weight is pretty much irrelevant
And what do they do after they step through the gate? They walk
>The go'a'oul'd as opponents were a joke - if 5.7 works reliably, they were unarmored and armor piercing capability was irrelevant. If it was relevant, they'd have used an intermediate or rifle round.
If you didn't watch the show that's cool, but there's no reason for you to shit up the thread with your dumbass posts. Keep your stupid comments in your pocket.
Actually, while there has been a bunch of research into getting intermediate rounds to punch through armor in the modern world, back during the early GWOT era, was there a standard 5.56 cartridge that had as much penetration as 5.7 since it was a purpose built cartridge to defeat armor and was held in pretty high regard for that at the time?
Shut up dummy
real soldiers in real life walk way more than SG-1 that teleport most of the way to their objective and all the way back
and no real soldiers use a p90 because it's a dumb gun
it just looks neat, that's all, why isn't that enough?
Because it doesn’t make sense.
It’s always been hailed as this gritty realistic military pseudo-fiction based on actual government testimony.
Just like the Japanese soft disclosure known as “gate”
The Gate anime had lots of frickable waifu's and not enough funs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
weren't the majority fricking underage
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only like one side char was a proper child iirc, and it was super awkward. The only other one was the witch who is 23425225 years old bullshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Only like one side char was a proper child iirc, and it was super awkward
and the death-god-witch-b***h wasn't?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thats the god thats 324242 years old
The child I'm referring to is the side char who loves the older man and wants to be his medieval wife but the older man doesn't want to be seen liking a child, but he has to save her blah blah
There was some pedo "its fine here" shit though as the kid tried to justify it to him
2 years ago
Anonymous
oh frick me my brain suppressed that part of the show, god
Wasn't the mage girl 15 or something as well? The one that "married" the main character by "sleeping in the same room three times"
i always wanted to see a Gould System lord go up against heavy armor like an abrams or even an IFV, just pure terror as his weapons do basically nothing against a real war machine and all his troops have either fled or are dead. Humanity in SG1 becoming the dominant power in the galaxy is good.
remember that they first used the p90 in 2000 and the mp5 before that. During the 90's the mp5 was basically the standard SMG for Hollywood, and the p90 was the logical upgrade from the mp5.
Technically the M4 was available, but not nearly as prolific are they are now. It was not until the iraq war (and COD) when m4 become the symbol of US infantry rifle.
Honestly, no. It's a spectacular weapon for indoor use, but kind of trash for actual combat, especially on alien planets. You can expect larger and heavier enemies on planets with denser atmospheres, which itself would dampen the range of an ultra light 5.7x28 projectile. A high BC, higher power intermediate cartridge is what you would want. My money is on 6.5 Grendel in a long barrel X95 to preserve the space gun aesthetic.
Due to a bunch of factors that allows intelligent life to develop on planets and actually be able to get OFF said planets.....
Humans are VERY likely to be those heavy worlder monsters to every other space faring species that we dream up ourselves. Unless we're talkin space dinosaurs and stuff, then yeah, bring tanks.
If we're visiting alien worlds, then the problems of escape velocity won't be as important. We could encounter races of planetbound giants that still develop incredibly advanced civilizations. Alternately, the natural conditions of their planet won't really matter to any species advanced enough master interstellar travel. They could just genetically modify themselves to be gigantic, super strong, and bulletproof, with 18 inch dicks.
>Alternately, the natural conditions of their planet won't really matter to any species advanced enough master interstellar travel. They could just genetically modify themselves to be gigantic, super strong, and bulletproof, with 18 inch dicks.
If they're not going to make those dicks at least 2 feet long and prehensile then it's clear that that species was never going to survive among the stars.
>We could encounter races of planetbound giants that still develop incredibly advanced civilizations
Shouldn't be a surprise there, agreed.
>Alternately, the natural conditions of their planet won't really matter to any species advanced enough master interstellar travel
Square-cube law would set them back real bad time-wise compared to anything else in the neighborhood including us, as we are right now. Back to space dinosaurs: they can have civilization/culture/knowledge/engineering, it's going to start with their size/weight as the bench mark. House? yeah, dino size. Make cars? dinosaur size, it's possible. Trains? doable.
Planes? Dinosaur Wright brothers will have to have made a big damn experiment. Progress to an Airliner? That's a LOT of mass, would they even bother? Dinosaur Saturn V would bankrupt half a continent to build and fuel to get 3 astro-saurs to orbit and would maybe be the size of the Empire State bldg, which they wouldn't even think of building due to their baseline of mass to support themselves. Unless they unlock antigravity.
>genetically modify themselves
Their baseline selves(our size or smaller), yeah that's not a dumb point to have in the CO's brief. Have some tanks and ordnance in reserve.
as for the 5.7, yeah it's mostly fine for SG1. But even when the series first got them, I saw it was likely for the reason the AF WOULD get them: seems special and looks neat.
I think any PDW in a fairly stout caliber would be ideal, and I'm pretty sure the p90 qualifies
I think shotguns may be a good option due to their versatility and general reliability. Hell, the commies sent frickers to space with a shotgun (even if it was purely to survive the siberian tundra if you were unlucky enough to crash there)
The biggest issue Guuuld ran into was that they were basically a navy with some MP's for ground forces.
No point in having a army for storming ground objectives or doing some grand battles when you can just glass any serious resistance from orbit, and have your MP's beat what's left into line.
Energy weapons were perfect for this because less logistics than having to ship ammo for dozens of light years/stargates constantly.
Also, much easier to pacifiy a slave with an energy blast that will knock him out and allow him to get back to work. Rather than cripple/kill him by unloading with a fricking shotgun.
Now in come humans, frick yeah, who have basically mastered ground warfare and have guns, missiles, mortars, tanks all that shit. Guuuld can't use their ships against them because: >a. they can't be everywhere at once just in case SG-1 comes through a stargate today >b. The Asgard would blow their ass out if they tried
So they got stuck having to fight a force which has been perfecting how to kill eachother in ground warfare for 2000+ years, with a force which have been glorified mall cops for thousands of years.
The show was very realistic in how this panned out
Especially since the little parasites were far more focused fighting each other and their massive warships, which would have utterly shredded human resistance (early on) were fairly rare. It’s sort of like asking how the frick drug runners in shitty garage made submarines can get into the US if the USN has nuclear submarines and super carriers. That was why humans were always so focused on stealing stuff. Because to them, even a ghetto, ancient, busted to shit warship that they could turn into the space version of a Toyota hilux technical was a huge upgrade in capability. To say nothing of the Asgard NO FLY ZONE shit around Earth. All in all, I think that series covered it’s own plot holes pretty well.
>PDW for the exploration group >Assault rifles and LMG's for the primary combat arm
For exploring? sure why not, it's not like it can't shoot at 100 meters
They wanted a neat AP gun with a smaller screen presence than an M4 or M16. This was the show with the closest working relationship with the military's media liaison office ever, they didn't want SG-1 to be perceived as the stone-cold goon squad that they truly are.
True.
After watching Farscape, I got pretty disappointed by the aliens on Stargate, the aliens on Farscape are on a whole other level.
That's why I miss Stargate Atlantis, they worked a bit more on aliens than the other 2 Stargates did, still not on par of Farscape though.
Farscape is really good but all the actors are constantly touching and getting horny and so I get horny and want to be touchy feely with someone too when I watch it...
And they also have those weird space AUG guns, what was the deal with those?
I'd like to reserve judgement until actually seeing the new series. I'd rather have a new series than nothing at all, it's better that they at least try. Eventually we will get something worth watching. Until then I've at least got what they've made already.
>I'd rather have a new series than nothing at all, it's better that they at least try
What happens if you get a new series and it becomes clear in the first few seconds that they definitely didn't try?
like I said I still have the existing stuff and I'm still thankful to have that. Literally no risk to me, I'm not forced to watch it if it's bad. I only stand to potentially gain another series that is good.
That's a very optimistic take. I do honestly hope that it turns out well, I've just been burned too often with 'exciting new X' to work up that much enthusiasm for it anymore.
2 years ago
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yeah that's definitely true. Since it's the same writer I hope that there's higher odds of it being good. No guarantees though.
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Wtf new series? A Stargate: SG1 reboot?
>A Stargate: SG1 reboot?
It's been on hold since 2020, and it's set later in the timeline, after the stargate has gone public on Earth.
yeah specifically due to the ongoing merger which was completed. So in theory now it could get unblocked. Did Brad ever say that directly btw? I vaguely remember reading that a year ago but can't recall
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Since it's the same writer I hope that there's higher odds of it being good
Same here, but the people to keep an eye on are the editors/producers/executives - at the end of the day they're the ones making the decisions and imposing the direction of the show. After what we've seen of Rings of Power I don't know how much credibility Amazon's editors/producers/executives have.
>Did Brad ever say that directly btw?
If he did I missed it, last I heard from him was that the merger was done and there shouldn't be anything else standing in the way of the show - that was a while ago though.
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which is the best trek series, in your opinions
I like DS9 but it's basically the one series I watched
Easily DS:9, with the good bits of next gen in a comfortable second place and the later seasons of Enterprise following in third.
2 years ago
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it's my bad, he did actually say that. Was trying to remember if it was nerd speculation or what but this article confirms it
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nvm answered my own question, this new article restates that: https://www.gateworld.net/news/2022/07/fourth-stargate-series-would-introduce-unique-gate/
he also recently said he thinks it might not see the light of day then goes back on that and says the fans might help make it a reality.
>Literally no risk to me, I'm not forced to watch it if it's bad. I only stand to potentially gain another series that is good.
You're correct in principle, but not in practice. The whole point of subversion is to tear down the [old things] and replace them with your [new thing]. As long as the [old thing] still exists, the job isn't done.
it's possible they replace it with shit, but they literally cannot replace the old thing since I have physical media. One of the benefits of this stuff being pre-streaming era.
https://i.imgur.com/fDPrlIT.jpg
I hope they don't bring back that nasty wasty old man.
you take that back
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they literally cannot replace the old thing since I have physical media
That's what the Laserdisk guys said too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the fans might help make it a reality.
That's pretty much just show-speak for 'OK, so it's probably not happening, but if you guys make enough noise we might be able to spin that into more work for us on another project'.
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TNG not even a question.
The Cardassians were never meant to be a real threat.
The Cardassians might not be the Borg or the Romulans - but DS:9 was the first trek to dig into proper serialised stories, just a little too soon to really enjoy the success it deserved for that. Also the Dominion absolutely was a threat on par with any of the others the Federation faced.
A guilty pleasure of mine is an old X-COM/SG1 crossover fanfic.
Someone in the show needed to treat the Nox and Tollan the way Cmdr Sharp does in that fic.
2 years ago
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>DS:9 was the first trek to dig into proper serialised stories
I'll never forgive that bloated goold for cucking my boy worf.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Come on, it's not fair to compare the Dax's to the GOOLD. The Goold had style.
>Literally no risk to me, I'm not forced to watch it if it's bad. I only stand to potentially gain another series that is good.
You're correct in principle, but not in practice. The whole point of subversion is to tear down the [old things] and replace them with your [new thing]. As long as the [old thing] still exists, the job isn't done.
>Since it's the same writer I hope that there's higher odds of it being good
Same here, but the people to keep an eye on are the editors/producers/executives - at the end of the day they're the ones making the decisions and imposing the direction of the show. After what we've seen of Rings of Power I don't know how much credibility Amazon's editors/producers/executives have.
>Did Brad ever say that directly btw?
If he did I missed it, last I heard from him was that the merger was done and there shouldn't be anything else standing in the way of the show - that was a while ago though.
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Easily DS:9, with the good bits of next gen in a comfortable second place and the later seasons of Enterprise following in third.
it's my bad, he did actually say that. Was trying to remember if it was nerd speculation or what but this article confirms it [...] he also recently said he thinks it might not see the light of day then goes back on that and says the fans might help make it a reality.
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it's possible they replace it with shit, but they literally cannot replace the old thing since I have physical media. One of the benefits of this stuff being pre-streaming era.
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you take that back
TNG not even a question.
The Cardassians were never meant to be a real threat.
I really liked TNG and Voyager. They were all cool in their own ways though. It's really cool watching ToS and comparing to later series.
>Since it's the same writer I hope that there's higher odds of it being good
Same here, but the people to keep an eye on are the editors/producers/executives - at the end of the day they're the ones making the decisions and imposing the direction of the show. After what we've seen of Rings of Power I don't know how much credibility Amazon's editors/producers/executives have.
>Did Brad ever say that directly btw?
If he did I missed it, last I heard from him was that the merger was done and there shouldn't be anything else standing in the way of the show - that was a while ago though.
[...]
Easily DS:9, with the good bits of next gen in a comfortable second place and the later seasons of Enterprise following in third.
Enterprise ended too soon, that finale was too good.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Enterprise ended too soon, that finale was too good. >Tucker gets killed by a fricking wall because something something pirates
Lol, Lmao, even
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Enterprise ended too soon
True. The Expanse story line went on too long, but the entire concept of why ridgeless Klingons, "Reed Alert", ect was valid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Enterprise ended too soon, that finale was too good.
I stopped watching after the entire bullshit season with the suiliban and the xindi bullshit. what the frick. whatever israelite writer and israelite producer that green lit that shit should be shot in the nutsack, twice.
I can't wait for the new series bros, I hope they get a move on with it
like I said I still have the existing stuff and I'm still thankful to have that. Literally no risk to me, I'm not forced to watch it if it's bad. I only stand to potentially gain another series that is good.
>I just want mooooore >Mooooore content >Feed me mooooore..... >consoom, consoom, consoom, consoom...
Your zombie kind killed the west. You happily fueled the engine that ruined the world.
lmao stfu moron. I don't consume anything they put in front of me. I only watch shit that is good and they will do it regardless of my approval or not.
>Enterprise ended too soon, that finale was too good. >Tucker gets killed by a fricking wall because something something pirates
Lol, Lmao, even
didn't they reveal some twist like someone who was vulcan was actually romulan? It's been so long since I watched that
>Excuse you, I'm very picky about what I shovel into my maw, I'll only consooooooom poison when it's mixed in with the right amount of sugar.
The nicest thing your enemies ever did for you was tip their hand, and you're here trying to coach them back into getting your money for snacks. You want the media networks and corporations that fund your enemies with your money to stop selling things you don't like so that you can give them more of your income.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't give a frick about your politics. I don't even know what enemies you're talking about. I don't really get your point here nor do I really want to argue with you over this. I just want good shows and I will watch them if they make them. You think I'm paying for any of this shit? lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not even him but it's clear as day that you are a mindless zombie. The CONSOOM meme stereotype incarnate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe some people just want to have sex with overweight, wrinkly, post-menopausal Amanda Tapping?
2 years ago
Anonymous
you've spun some moronic narrative based on a couple sentences in a mongolian basket weaving forum. It's clear to me that you're a brainless sheep
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't know what you're saying I don't care about anything just shovel more sweet things into my face!
Well for close range personally AA 12
Saiga 12.
And the 74 u would be competent.
But hey didn't they at first instead of using the P90 didn't they use the MP5?
Here's a thing that always kinda bugged me. They made all manner of super impressive ship weaponry, special gadgets to kill this that and the other, but why not a Tau'ri "militarized" staff weapon? Imagine the rebel Jaffa with "staff weapon" rifles that had red-dots, bayonet lug, and maybe even build in an under barrel zat blaster for a true multi-purpose frick you. Ruggedize the whole thing like an AK so they can bash people with it, and lettem go to town.
I dunno, takes multiple hits to kill with a Zat, and you never see them used at anything beyond really short range. But, hey, lets make real-boy Zat's, that you can aim and don't go "CLACK-Bweee-Ooo" when you're getting ready to shoot. Laser sights, better pistol ergonomics, less... bent-penis-shaped.
First, we see Zats used at the exact same ranges as staff weapons, out to their maximum range.
Second, taken out of combat is taken out of combat. Who gives a shit if they're only knocked out? You can slaughter them at your leisure now that they're incapacitated.
Third, three shots from a Zat can disintegrate like three hundred pounds of metal and meat, whereas canonically the Staff weapon can be laughed off by quarter inch steel plating.
Fourth, and most importantly, the Zat is like one fifteenth the size and weight of a staff weapon. Think about this for a second, you could literally rig up three Zats on a fricking broomhandle and it would be a million times more powerful than the staff weapon while still being lighter and easier to use.
They do look like penises though. That comes with the territory of being designed by a giant evil penis.
yeah
SG-1 is a diplomacy focused group. Marine SG units had LMG and M4s
>SG-1 is a diplomacy focused group
no its not its an Exploration group SG-9 is Diplomatic
5.7 was specifically chosen because it can penetrate level IX body armor
IX?
Yeah, Ix, home of the Ixians, ever heard of it?
many machines on Ix
Standard Goa'uld body armor rating
The what body armor rating?
Goold?
GOOLD?
Is this from Twin Peaks or does he play the same character in everything?
It’s from stargate sg1 anon
I wouldn't worry about it.
what was that from?
I thought I had seen every BSG...
X-Files episode One Breath
that new general should've thought of some strange way of pronouncing Ori just to keep the meme going
>the Oreee?
The Oh-Rye? The O'ruh'ee? The Orry?
Wtf new series? A Stargate: SG1 reboot?
>A Stargate: SG1 reboot?
It's been on hold since 2020, and it's set later in the timeline, after the stargate has gone public on Earth.
I can wait. The first series was rode pretty fricking hard.
nvm answered my own question, this new article restates that: https://www.gateworld.net/news/2022/07/fourth-stargate-series-would-introduce-unique-gate/
I hope they don't bring back that nasty wasty old man.
P90 go brrrrrrrr
A Gooold LOOOORD?
are they related every time i look at the general i think taylor swift and every time i look at taylor swift i think that general guy
anyone else tink they lookalike?
No. No they do not look alike.
God, she looks old and used up. What happened, is it Trump again?
she turned 30.
also even wealthy singers basically live like truckers, that shit takes a lot out of you.
I mean their armor was designed to stop plasma blasts, not high velocity projectiles. I think they cover it in one of the episodes. Basically none of the system lords were so primitive as to sling metal at high velocity so why design armor against it?
it literally can't penetrate the armor it was designed to
nah bringing guns is moronic
realistically while exploring stargates either the civilization on the other side is so advanced that guns are obsolete against them or so primitive that they can easily be spotted by a drone and examined before contact is made face to face.
its kind of like those people arguing that earth should build defensive weapons because some of the UFOs sighted are extraterrestrial aliens. any civilization capable of interstellar travel would find it trivial to make earth uninhabitable to humans
DRONES?
maverick missiles not hellfire
yep
if anything a hazmat suit is far more important.most of the network worlds have human compatible biospheres but many have been isolated for thousands of years and have diverged.
you're very likely to dtop dead within minutes or bring back some long incubation time stargate-corona that will spread outside stargate command before it's detectible.
There are times the team wears hazmat when going. It should happen more often but I get they want to show off the actors. Stargate will always be top tier for the episode where they drop nerve gas through a gate and kill all the Jaffa guarding it before proceeding with hazmat gear.
yea its movie shit, they make up some excuse as to why they dont need hazmats.
its the same with moviesshows in space. anyone expecting combat will put on a spacesuit expecting hull breaches and loss of atmosphere but in movies/shows characters keep going without suits because they wanna show the actors face.
stargate had this problem too although parts of stargate universe were more grounded in that regard
I'll always appreciate Gundam for having crewmen actually bother to put on spacesuits when going into combat.
it help that the spacesuit are likely easier to draw that anime fashion.
yea
honestly i really noticed it when i read the expanse and later when the show came out
I fricking love the expanse, i want nothing more than a game where you and 4-5 friends crew a single ship and fight it out with another group of players in the same kind of ships with similar capabilities
>tfw they do have spacesuit/anykindoffacemask but has lights inside that blind the shit out the person but show some face for the camera
yea it's moronic
especially if it's supposed to be a suspenseful scene where they explore a dark environment because the light inside the visor would reflect and block the view outside
Hazmat suits and guns are not mutually exclusive.
Realistically, you'd send a UGV in first and take a look around as well as make some atmospheric readings.
imagine the back blast
>biosphere
They're probably in greater danger of US bringing some pathogen to them than us. Earth is the homeworld of humanity, and as such all the microorganisms that evolved to exploit is also from here. Any slavers would ensure that their livestock are not dying from the sniffles and would ensure that communicable diseases would be stamped out. Additionally any truly "alien" worlds biota would either do absolutely nothing or trigger your bodies immune system so hard that you'd die from shock rather than the organism itself.
>episode of wasp things
Oh yeah that was really bad.
The need for slaves would be made obsolete by technology except for cultural reasons. If you can build an interstellar space craft you can build a better Black person robot.
The Gould were parasites. They liked humans because not only were we easy to repair, easy to frighten and enslave through fear and superstition (a cultural value the head snakes were HUGE on) but they liked LIVING in us. They even used us for sexual purposes because if you’re a ten thousand year old brain stem parasite why not try out some inter species nonconsensual mind control racial cuckoldry pregnancy tentacle fetish shit?
yes bringing guns to an alien world where you have no clue if there is dangerous fauna is moronic...
the entire point of Stargate was that the Aliens were so much more advanced that the thought of preparing for any sort of small scale warfare never occurs to them. Them having defenses against ballistic weapons would be like us having defenses against knights on horseback. Both the Goa'uld and the Asgard fight their wars in space, only engaging in minor policing actions on the ground. The only reason the humans even stood a chance is because the Goa'uld were unable to attack Earth with their navy due to the Asgard.
>would be like us having defenses against knights on horseback.
we do tho
theyre called guns, if for some reason spears or knights on horseback became militarily viable they'd come back immediately. this 'theyre so technologically advanced that they became moronic' idea of stargate is just dumb
watch the episode thor's hammer, when they're in the labyrinth Tealc's staff doesn't work (nullified by some kind of tech) but the mp5 does
gould would just make some guns
its a moronic plot device
Having a gun does not make you immune to being shot with a gun...
no but they would get around staff-weapon-blocking devices
that is never said anywhere, naquada planets are very rare and those that arent gould slave colonies mining it probably dont know wtf to do with it.
sg-1 also encounter multiple civilizations with guns
>gould
They wouldn't for 2 reasons
>Gooooold steal most of their tech except for a few outliers
>goooolds are twice as arrogant and narcissistic as the average glowie.
>They're also half crazy from the constant sarcophagus use.
>they are just as incompetent as the average US politician
Need i say more?
that would imply goauld were actually smart and not just space-russians
>Goulds
like the pump?
This exact thing came to mind when installing a new turbopump at work
>gould
ok, let me give you an analogy. Imagine you're a second world post soviet rump state. You're constantly fighting with other post soviet rump states. Then some random third world shithole that borders you starts sending in literal knights on horseback to attack you. In addition the U.S. has said it will step in if you directly attack the knight's country. You're also currently at war with a few neighboring states, so you can't afford to divert enough resources to completely cover your border with the third world nation. On top of all of this, your local populace despises you and will gladly turn on you if given the means.
So now, various towns near the border regularly get attacked by strike teams of knights on horseback. Your soldiers are all on the opposite side of the country dealing with much bigger threats so the local police forces have to deal with it. The local cops have guns, but they're trained to deal with rioters, not organized military forces and the towns are not fortified at all.
So what keeps happening is the knights will ride in and attack some random town. They'll begin fighting the local cops with their bows and crossbows. The cops may have better weapons, but they're outmaneuvered because of a complete lack of strategy. Then the knights give out the cops weapons to the locals and tell them they're free. Finally they ride back across the border safely out of your reach.
By the time you would be able to mobilize any kind of response the knights have already left. Then all you can do is send in the army to recapture the liberated town.
This is the situation the Goa'uld are in.
How come the Goold give their infantry sidearms that are literally 10,000 times stronger than their main arms? Is it a prank?
They're mostly ceremonial troops. They're there to kick the shit out of primitive slaves, die gloriously in their gods wars, and look cool standing around their gods palaces. The effectiveness of the staff is less important than its aesthetics.
But that doesn't actually answer my question, why give your ceremonial slave beaters a sidearm ten thousand times stronger than their laser musket?
>why give your ceremonial slave beaters a sidearm ten thousand times stronger than their laser musket?
I don't think that was ever addressed in setting, but if you're asking me I think that the Zat was probably designed for controlling the slaves, and the staff was designed to look cool and make the Goold feel important as they watch their honour guard drill with them. If you're asking about the 'three shots disintegrates' thing then I assume that was some lazy writing they didn't really think through for the early episode where they needed to hide some Jaffa bodies, but couldn't be bothered to give us a 5 second scene of O'Neil dragging an unconscious/dead Jaffa into a closet.
Yeah, but it's a pretty moronic explanation. Just because an explanation exists in-universe doesn't make it a good one, or anything more than the writer doing a quick cope to cover a plot-hole
as the series went on the plot holes started forming. The original movie makes sense. Ra had ruled that desert planet unopposed for millenia. The locals were all too scared to ever rebel and even if they did, his Jaffa and death gliders would be more than enough to deal with a bunch of untrained peasants with farming tools. The problem was when a trained military force with decent weapons showed up. He was completely unprepared to deal with any actual resistance on account of not having any enemies for thousands of years.
SG1 retconned most of this.
The series explained that conventional small arms were a sidegrade development unique to Earth because most other civilizations went to energy weapons pretty early in their histories owing to Naquada being present on their planets.
Honestly you are incorrect. Some primitive weapons would cause massive headaches for modern armies. The same is true alien civs facing us.
Bi planes for instance caused us major headaches in Korea for the US, to the Germans on the Eastern front, and according to most military analysts would do so today. We don't design our defenses to fight such obsolete trash. So they can exploit it.
I thought the whole point of how the Jaffa got their asses kicked, despite their sci-fi space kit, was that for the last few thousand years they had mostly been used as glorified MPs and for borderline ritualised battles/ego-displays between their various 'gods' and were suddenly going up against special forces style assaults that they just weren't trained or equipped to deal with?
That too
It's a bit like Cortes's expedition, not only did they have better weapons and tactics but they also didn't go by the mesoamerican rules of war (No nightfighting, try to capture prisoners for sacrifice)
and not pissing off everyone around you with sacrifice raids to make it EZ for any external power with a runny nose to coalition of the willing your ass
>Bi planes for instance caused us major headaches in Korea for the US, to the Germans on the Eastern front
You mean the eastern front where German pilots racked up like 500 kills?
>Bi planes for instance
Mfw russian bi-planes penetrate ukrainian air defenses
>we are conquerors at the end of the day
> wherever i go, i will remain peaceful so long as i retain the ability to kill any threat
Yes.
Frick no. They did it because they thought it looks cool and futuristic.
They used the gun because it had the cheapest blanks available after the show was lightly asked to please stop using so much 9mm, since it was hindering real military training for the then new GWoT.
Stargate swap to the p90 when Clinton was still president.
you're thinking of when producetion ran out of 5.7mm blank because of Afghanistan and Iraq, and Carter had to use a Frankenstein SBR for a while.
No.
Wrist Mounted Storm Bolters with Hellfire ordnance in the left receiver and Inferno ordnance in the right. Best for destroying Xenos.
Any other choices are Heresy.
You're not enging in Heresy, are you OP?
warhammer babies are so fricking tiresome
Blame 2016 for all the God Emperor Orange Zionist memes.
kys as well
>Blame orange man.
It's time to grow the frick up, you're an adult and it's about time you started acting like it. Me and your mom are tired of your constant yelling and screaming about orange man all night long from the basement, shut up or you're getting booted.
love seeing these kneejerk reactions pop up despite it being 2022 and the orange guy being irrelevant.
shut up Black person 2016 saw a huge substanceless uptick in the 40k fanbase. nothing but Holy Based Battle Brother Kyle of the Week this or God Emprah Trump to the sound of that Sabaton templar song that.
your least/most favorite president isn't some taboo that nobody ever gets to bring up the consequences of.
I for one am more frustrated by warhammer as a setting
I like some elements of it but I grow increasingly tired of the moronic grimderp and stupid shit in it for the sake of it, like the IG being powerful mostly by just throwing bodies at the problem, or no one developing ANY new technologies because.... heresy, I guess, even if it really isn't new technology being developed but a different type of poison gas or new tank mod
idfk part of it could be solved by more freedom in the setting but it seems like most people now in the hobby are happy to conform to GW's stagnation
>idfk part of it could be solved by more freedom in the setting but it seems like most people now in the hobby are happy to conform to GW's stagnation
Thats the point of the setting. It was written as a parody of grinders at first. Everything IS stagnated and freedom DOES lead to heresy and Chaos. There is only war.
Good take.
I like how the Jaffa are basically wearing chainmail and snake/jackal/eagle shaped NODS. Of all you expect to fight is primitives with Spears and swords, theyre kitted out fairly well.
Which is why Anubis’s mechanized Jaffa army is such a dope turn of events.
It would be nice to have seen things razed and humanity being caught flat footed.
No gun.
That's a whole lotta words.....too bad i'm not reading'em homosexual.
Orange man was 2016 aka 6 years ago, get over it and grow up.
I was into Warhammer when you were an itch in your daddy’s pants.
Then you should have grown out of that goofy shit designed by noguns by now.
>t. anime watcher
>There are only warhammer gays and anime gays in the whole universe
Jesus Christ you people are cancer.
>Jesus Christ you people are cancer.
Name an acceptable alternative to warhammer or anime you goddamn zoomer Black person homosexual.
not the guy, but I've been enjoying battletech since GW killed my passion for 40k
>but I've been enjoying battletech
Based and refined tastes fren
>There really ARE no forms of entertainment besides Warhammer and Anime! Reee!
Black person get out of the fricking SG1 thread.
Gross. Grow up and get real guns.
> 40 rounds.
> no reloads WYSIWYG
Lol no.
If we're going to talk about the ideal sci-fi exploration weapon
warhammer fans are the bronies of scifi
In real life?
>Yeah
>Holds up staff weapon
"This, is a weapon of terror. It's made to intimidate the enemy."
>Casually tosses it aside and holds up P90
"This, is a weapon of war. It's made to kill your enemy."
>casually shooting past guys 10 yds away from the target
>P90 cuts a fricking log in half with one burst
Maybe whatever kind of Handwavium core ammunition they're using in setting makes the choice of primary firearm less moronic? That being said the P90 would make sense if SG1 was a non-combat diplomatic/research team - and considering that they rarely go three offworld missions in a row without getting into a heavy duty firefight/getting captured/blowing up a hostile capital ship etc that's clearly the wrong call for them.
You know that a show needs more work when a random piece of crossover fanfic makes more sense than the official canon.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3631062/1/XSGCOM-Mirror-Image
Except SG-1 is actually noted as a diplomatic, non-combat recon team. They even make note of it on a couple of episodes, and hang a lampshade on the fact that you don't see the boring missions so it only looks like they're involved in combat 95% of the time. They have Marine SG teams that carry rifles, explosives, and LMGs when they actually expect to have to shoot people.
>XCOM
>being competent
XCOM is pretty much the mirror of Starfleet, a incompetent force that only wins through plot armor.
Ask me how I know you suck at the game.
Not him, but for the 2011 version of xcom, the only reason humanity is able to win is because the aliens are purposely drip feeding us technology, and that at the end of the game they are too dumb to consider that we aren’t breaking into their command room to wave a white flag.
>the 2011 version
See, now there's your problem.
Based and High Explosivepilled
I'll never forgive the reboot for not letting you flatten the map with gratuitous firepower
In what world? TFTD and Apocalypse both follow human victories.
He's talking about the (crappy) new releases. I bet he even prefers it to Xenonauts.
XCOM, not X-COM. In the new series You canonically lose the base defense, are captured and put into a battle simulator and were being used against humanity.
Oh yeah, there's the whole cryopod thing in the second modern one. I never really liked them making the Commander be a character.
>Apocalypse
Here's a game I haven't heard about in decades. Also the second game I would boot up with the intention of razing the whole map in both strat and tactical layer.
The other game is of course Silent Storm.
Makes you think that they don't make destruction like that anymore.
The OpenXCOM lads are working on an open version of Apocalypse currently, if you didn't know. I'm really excited to see what people do modding it.
Silent Storm is great too, yeah. I'm one of the few people who kinda liked the mecha, as janky as they were. Spraying down entire buildings with the quad-MG42 model was too much fun.
As for destruction, I honestly chalk it up to graphicswhoring. If shit wasn't so obsessed with being photorealistic it'd free up so much rendering power.
Also that, yeah, it actually requires the designer to take into account that the player might go through a wall rather than the doorway, and doesn't lend itself to being interrupted by scripted cutscenes every time you turn a corner.
>Makes you think that they don't make destruction like that anymore.
There are all kinds of technical issues doing that with modern games, and they probably also don't want to let you off their plot rails that easily.
Red Faction Guerrilla tho
40 x blaster bombs
10 x blaster launchers
10 x heavy plasma (or heavy laser mix if you're stingy)
20 x heavy plasma clips
80 items total. You know why.
Canonically everything in xcom1 from developing laser weapons on is a brain simulation and the aliens successfully conquered the planet.
>suck
b***h I ironmanned both the PS2 and Xbox 360 version, plot armor and save scumming were baked into the plot due to the bullshit AI and RNG, something which reeks of shit writing. In order to beat Impossible difficulty is pure RNG and exploiting AI programming.
>having to avoid terror missions
Bullshit call artillery.
>XCOM being the only hope while other nations have veteran troops
You can get fricking troops that are superior to yours in the remake, so XCOM being supersoldiers is complete bullshit.
NuCom doesn't count. It's shit.
>TFTD
Easily the worst game of the franchise, bar Enforcer.
This scene is why I bought my PS90 and katana. I just want to impress her so much.
I do okay with the ladies but I have a nagging feeling i would turn into an 11 year old again if I met her in person. Does she do the convention circuit at all do you know? Asking for a friend.
Why do you say that Anon?
Nice montage.
Doubt, she's a granny now and showing up to the con with my PS90 and katana might ...look bad.
Which one of the billion streaming services has Stargate on it anyway?
netflix
Not in my country.
Hulu has atlantis, and Tubi has both the Sg1 movies.
Piratebay has the lot.
dailymotion, the whole series too
pluto tv runs it 24/7 on the stargate channel
twitch
The dvd collections are dirt cheap to buy on amazon. I picked up 10 seasons for a fifty.
Attacker.tv hast everything;)
I think the argument is that they have to ship ammo on space ships where every lb counts and 9mm was the best weight:firepower ratio
t. sci fi nerd
do you really think the p90 uses 9mm?
everyone knows from Fallout 2 that the p90 uses 10mm ammo
>3
and is a prpduct of hk
>p90
homie it has the letter 9 in the name because it shoots .9mm shells.
Yeah, 90 of them
>t. sci fi nerd
You can add “noguns” to that as well you fricking homosexual.
>staff weapon is a weapon of terror
what did he mean by this
weapon designed around symbolism and cultural heritage, used to evoke sense of dread among the enemy, either due to specific markings showing an elite force ala roman banners or the shape of the weapon being something like a lion or snake. gun is gun, gun shoots and that's it .symbolism doesn't win wars, guns do.
god i love the p90, perfect gun, perfect round
Theoretically as a "carry a lot shoot a little" its not a bad choice. Admittedly with how often SG teams get into fights they may have wanted to start investing in proper rifles I'd say a bullpup with a 20in barrel in 5.56 would probably be optimal. Short and easy to keep out of the way as they don't need them too often, still capable of reaching out at distance since most of the time they are hitting up relatively open and undeveloped worlds and the few times you end up in some wried ruin its once again not going to be too much of a bother.
The show literally says that 5.7 is better at armor penetration than 5.56 at one point, which is moronic but it's one of those situations where like, are you supposed to accept the "canon" of this universe when they tell you something directly?
Been a bit too long for me to remember that line. In that case yeah the P90 is pretty much ideal for their use. Small and fairly light and capable of carrying an absolute shit ton of ammo with minimal effort. Pretty much perfect for the role of SG teams mostly peacefully exploring with the occasional moment of pants shitty terror as way to many jaffa pop up
The real problem is that the team should be larger, consisting of something like a platoon minimum securing the far gate side. Not to mention better vehicle and drone support at the Patrol Base or ORP (whatever you want to call the far side gate).
Sure, send the SG team out to recon first (after drone and robot recon). But standing right behind them should be that platoon of infantry that set up a base camp around the far side gate before they leave.
Anon makes a good point about how they get into heavy combat so often, the counter explanation of 'but you do not see the boring missions' does not hold water. How often would a meet and greet mission have to go bad in Afghanistan before we would send them out with a serious security detail and armed heavily, with backup on call? SG shows far too many, heck, even if it only happened say one mission a year, we would still treat it like a combat mission.
Especially considering that the worst thing to happen on failure would not be losing the team, but losing our planet. Hell, far side tactical nuke as fail safe would not be extreme.
It wouldn't work for every mission - particularly the sneakier ones. The Goa'uld also like building their shit around the stargate, so the security force would have a LOT of Jaffa charging them pretty quickly. The failsafe nuke is probably excessive (and a very hard sell to the off world teams and Stargate Command); especially after the protected planets treaty and the iris.
P90s just looked cool and matched the future Sci Fi world
NOPE. M16 is the way to go.
Unironically retro M16 A1s would be a better choice. The P90 is a pistol replacement, not a stand in for a rifle. It was made for support troops not front line soldiers.
i'd like to dream that in the future, 5.7 rounds are using hybrid casing and the P90 upgraded from straight blowback to something better. Would be worth it
ROTATING BARREL P90
Funny
For me, it’s the space revolver from SGA
I'd love to see a non Earth human faction that is a dark version of SG1, a threat that is so dangerous because they also understand and get to use all the bullshit haxx Ancient technology.
There was a group of crab commando guys who were similar in tech to us that had the ability to disguise as others to yoink their tech. They gave every man a suicide bomb in case of capture, which their commanding officer used to cover his men's retreat, after saying some inspiring words (that we can't understand because he's a crab).
wild that they never used the crab aliens from foothold again
I thought it was weirder that they never mentioned Charlie the child Tok'ra again. I guess he was busy on The X-Files.
They have a habit of encountering a threat, defeating it once, then saying "Yeah we just put TERs in the gate room/just give everyone an extra injection/just add another xray screening/just test for this enzyme/just feel for a lump on the neck" and never mention it again lol
Will we ever meet the Furlings?
Yeah
Why do you keep making the P90 Stargate SG-1 thread? I've seen it like 10 times.
It's a good thread, I'm not trying to say you should stop doing it, i'm just wondering why P90 SG-1 and why so many times.
Seeing the endless repetitive Gooldposting on a weekly basis is the only thing keeping me from death.
God that's cursed.
Yes the other definition of spaghetti western.
I like how despite SG1 being his pet, and fully supporting their decisions, Hammond still knew to tell them to sit down and shut the frick up at times
I like how it ignores all the times where they rolled in with MP5s, USAS-12s, M16/M203s, the Carter special, M249s etc. I vaguely remember somebody carrying a G3 or MSG90 at some point.
Daniel not have a FiveSeven was odd though
I think the P90 is just prominent enough in most peoples memories of the show that it just became 'The Stargate Gun'. If you were given command of the SGC (after they stopped having the budget problems) what loadout/s would you approve for SGC Offworld teams? What about when it becomes a global effort and you get the budget and clearance to start commissioning gear designed especially for Stargate use?
Yeah, always struck me as odd that they used Beretta's instead of Five-Sevens. Would simplify their supply chain and give them a handgun that can pierce Jaffa armor better to boot.
Nope the stinger is
for SG-1's purposes they make sense, gotta travel light, need something that reliably kills goold though their armor, can carry a lot of ammo in a few mags. Real high speed low drag shit for the late 90's. For most missions the P90's work well. They also don't hesitate to travel heavy when the opportunity arises to rock and roll.
>don't hesitate to travel heavy when the opportunity arises to rock and roll.
I liked when they finally brought a couple of mortar crews through the gate.
Forgot pic.
Remember that time when all the 5.7x28 production capability was reserved for Iraq war and they had to switch to 5.56x45 for a while in the series?
In the universe, happened because of this.
They saved most for O'Neill's shooting scenes which they also toned down a bit to save blanks. This also brings out one interesting thing - they mostly didn't use special effects for guns in Stargate, they used blanks...the armorer of the set must have been /k/'s dream job!
Forgot about the time Harold saved them. Shame he can't tell Red about it.
its soo cool how the aliens fight differently, not necessarily better, those are almost like "musketters" bravelly stanting steady, its a really simple thing but makes you wonder about their minds, it adds a lot
also i am soo sorry for that but the idea of americans talking to extraterrestrial civilizations first always made me shiver cause they could cause such unprecedented diplomatic mess and just keep sillent about it lol
I would rather have Trump as a front man than Picard.
i'd rather macron than picard.
but kirk is the man, he seems a very centered guy and will definetly not shoot at random things to see what happens
"definitely' :p
but i am getting better
60's were a good time the women on tv were so sexy and they had sex outfits. these days they are ugly and you don't even know if they are women or not
before the progressive agenda some men were bad and just gone to jail.
now we are ALL bad in a endless trial feeling like creeps, shows are just poisoning us to guilt trip.
>60's were a good time
Oh yeah.
prostitute, RRRREEEEE!
oh yeah, that minx
>also i am soo sorry for that but the idea of americans talking to extraterrestrial civilizations first always made me shiver cause they could cause such unprecedented diplomatic mess and just keep sillent about it lol
Do you know how insulted I would be as an alien if I found out that I had been negotiating with a pretend nation that existed only as a theme park and protectorate state of the world hegemoy?
>travel light
they travel by stargate, they don't walk, weight is pretty much irrelevant
>pierce armor
The go'a'oul'd as opponents were a joke - if 5.7 works reliably, they were unarmored and armor piercing capability was irrelevant. If it was relevant, they'd have used an intermediate or rifle round.
>they travel by stargate, they don't walk, weight is pretty much irrelevant
And what do they do after they step through the gate? They walk
>The go'a'oul'd as opponents were a joke - if 5.7 works reliably, they were unarmored and armor piercing capability was irrelevant. If it was relevant, they'd have used an intermediate or rifle round.
If you didn't watch the show that's cool, but there's no reason for you to shit up the thread with your dumbass posts. Keep your stupid comments in your pocket.
Actually, while there has been a bunch of research into getting intermediate rounds to punch through armor in the modern world, back during the early GWOT era, was there a standard 5.56 cartridge that had as much penetration as 5.7 since it was a purpose built cartridge to defeat armor and was held in pretty high regard for that at the time?
Shut up dummy
real soldiers in real life walk way more than SG-1 that teleport most of the way to their objective and all the way back
and no real soldiers use a p90 because it's a dumb gun
it just looks neat, that's all, why isn't that enough?
Because it doesn’t make sense.
It’s always been hailed as this gritty realistic military pseudo-fiction based on actual government testimony.
Just like the Japanese soft disclosure known as “gate”
The Gate anime had lots of frickable waifu's and not enough funs.
weren't the majority fricking underage
Only like one side char was a proper child iirc, and it was super awkward. The only other one was the witch who is 23425225 years old bullshit.
>Only like one side char was a proper child iirc, and it was super awkward
and the death-god-witch-b***h wasn't?
Thats the god thats 324242 years old
The child I'm referring to is the side char who loves the older man and wants to be his medieval wife but the older man doesn't want to be seen liking a child, but he has to save her blah blah
There was some pedo "its fine here" shit though as the kid tried to justify it to him
oh frick me my brain suppressed that part of the show, god
Wasn't the mage girl 15 or something as well? The one that "married" the main character by "sleeping in the same room three times"
i always wanted to see a Gould System lord go up against heavy armor like an abrams or even an IFV, just pure terror as his weapons do basically nothing against a real war machine and all his troops have either fled or are dead. Humanity in SG1 becoming the dominant power in the galaxy is good.
>Goa'uld weapons
>Do nothing against armored vehicles
Black person wtf are you smoking?
God I want a PS90
I-I'm GOOLDING!
>ywn be captured by a female Jaffa
>ywn be ridden like a stolen horse while Ankha Zone plays
Why is life so fricking shit?
remember that they first used the p90 in 2000 and the mp5 before that. During the 90's the mp5 was basically the standard SMG for Hollywood, and the p90 was the logical upgrade from the mp5.
Technically the M4 was available, but not nearly as prolific are they are now. It was not until the iraq war (and COD) when m4 become the symbol of US infantry rifle.
Honestly, no. It's a spectacular weapon for indoor use, but kind of trash for actual combat, especially on alien planets. You can expect larger and heavier enemies on planets with denser atmospheres, which itself would dampen the range of an ultra light 5.7x28 projectile. A high BC, higher power intermediate cartridge is what you would want. My money is on 6.5 Grendel in a long barrel X95 to preserve the space gun aesthetic.
Due to a bunch of factors that allows intelligent life to develop on planets and actually be able to get OFF said planets.....
Humans are VERY likely to be those heavy worlder monsters to every other space faring species that we dream up ourselves. Unless we're talkin space dinosaurs and stuff, then yeah, bring tanks.
If we're visiting alien worlds, then the problems of escape velocity won't be as important. We could encounter races of planetbound giants that still develop incredibly advanced civilizations. Alternately, the natural conditions of their planet won't really matter to any species advanced enough master interstellar travel. They could just genetically modify themselves to be gigantic, super strong, and bulletproof, with 18 inch dicks.
>Alternately, the natural conditions of their planet won't really matter to any species advanced enough master interstellar travel. They could just genetically modify themselves to be gigantic, super strong, and bulletproof, with 18 inch dicks.
If they're not going to make those dicks at least 2 feet long and prehensile then it's clear that that species was never going to survive among the stars.
>We could encounter races of planetbound giants that still develop incredibly advanced civilizations
Shouldn't be a surprise there, agreed.
>Alternately, the natural conditions of their planet won't really matter to any species advanced enough master interstellar travel
Square-cube law would set them back real bad time-wise compared to anything else in the neighborhood including us, as we are right now. Back to space dinosaurs: they can have civilization/culture/knowledge/engineering, it's going to start with their size/weight as the bench mark. House? yeah, dino size. Make cars? dinosaur size, it's possible. Trains? doable.
Planes? Dinosaur Wright brothers will have to have made a big damn experiment. Progress to an Airliner? That's a LOT of mass, would they even bother? Dinosaur Saturn V would bankrupt half a continent to build and fuel to get 3 astro-saurs to orbit and would maybe be the size of the Empire State bldg, which they wouldn't even think of building due to their baseline of mass to support themselves. Unless they unlock antigravity.
>genetically modify themselves
Their baseline selves(our size or smaller), yeah that's not a dumb point to have in the CO's brief. Have some tanks and ordnance in reserve.
as for the 5.7, yeah it's mostly fine for SG1. But even when the series first got them, I saw it was likely for the reason the AF WOULD get them: seems special and looks neat.
I think any PDW in a fairly stout caliber would be ideal, and I'm pretty sure the p90 qualifies
I think shotguns may be a good option due to their versatility and general reliability. Hell, the commies sent frickers to space with a shotgun (even if it was purely to survive the siberian tundra if you were unlucky enough to crash there)
I was always a fan of when they broke out the G-36's, and when O'Neill would grab a SAW. Teal'c should have been packin a MK-48 or similar.
simple, reliable, lightweight, small, high capacity, low recoil, defensive range, armor penetration capability.
yeah, it's a pretty good candidate
The biggest issue Guuuld ran into was that they were basically a navy with some MP's for ground forces.
No point in having a army for storming ground objectives or doing some grand battles when you can just glass any serious resistance from orbit, and have your MP's beat what's left into line.
Energy weapons were perfect for this because less logistics than having to ship ammo for dozens of light years/stargates constantly.
Also, much easier to pacifiy a slave with an energy blast that will knock him out and allow him to get back to work. Rather than cripple/kill him by unloading with a fricking shotgun.
Now in come humans, frick yeah, who have basically mastered ground warfare and have guns, missiles, mortars, tanks all that shit. Guuuld can't use their ships against them because:
>a. they can't be everywhere at once just in case SG-1 comes through a stargate today
>b. The Asgard would blow their ass out if they tried
So they got stuck having to fight a force which has been perfecting how to kill eachother in ground warfare for 2000+ years, with a force which have been glorified mall cops for thousands of years.
The show was very realistic in how this panned out
Especially since the little parasites were far more focused fighting each other and their massive warships, which would have utterly shredded human resistance (early on) were fairly rare. It’s sort of like asking how the frick drug runners in shitty garage made submarines can get into the US if the USN has nuclear submarines and super carriers. That was why humans were always so focused on stealing stuff. Because to them, even a ghetto, ancient, busted to shit warship that they could turn into the space version of a Toyota hilux technical was a huge upgrade in capability. To say nothing of the Asgard NO FLY ZONE shit around Earth. All in all, I think that series covered it’s own plot holes pretty well.
They should have brought guns chambered in .22LR, much easier to find.
>High mag cap
>AP ammo
>compact
>ambi
>can suppress with subsonic AP
Bring a rifle or two for longer ranges, maybe a GL, good to go
suppresses just fine with the normal ammo
>PDW for the exploration group
>Assault rifles and LMG's for the primary combat arm
For exploring? sure why not, it's not like it can't shoot at 100 meters
They wanted a neat AP gun with a smaller screen presence than an M4 or M16. This was the show with the closest working relationship with the military's media liaison office ever, they didn't want SG-1 to be perceived as the stone-cold goon squad that they truly are.
Where you see one man I c-4
You just want him to AD to her face, admit it.
2022 I am forgotten
I love Uzis!
TBF nobody actually watched or enjoyed those episodes of SG1.
>nobody actually watched
>wait in the car!
I saw.
>Whatisname
His name is John Crichton, astronaut.
Main character from the series Farscape.
Everyone who loves Stargate is gonna love it too, it's a Must Watch.
Did enjoy kind of give off the cyberpunk feel.
The best thing about Farscape is watching a man go insane over time. Also Scorpius.
And Chiana.
Only God knows how many times I've fapped to that sexy sex goddess.
I was sad when I learned her cleavage was painted on.
>you are insane!
<I thought that was common knowledge!
It's indeed nice to see him getting more and more insane and bolder with time.
>Must Watch.
Best aliens ever.
True.
After watching Farscape, I got pretty disappointed by the aliens on Stargate, the aliens on Farscape are on a whole other level.
That's why I miss Stargate Atlantis, they worked a bit more on aliens than the other 2 Stargates did, still not on par of Farscape though.
Farscape is really good but all the actors are constantly touching and getting horny and so I get horny and want to be touchy feely with someone too when I watch it...
And they also have those weird space AUG guns, what was the deal with those?
I watch it and think
>I would ...a plant
You know Zota was the rad chick from Road Warrior, yes?
>rad chick
I would eat my vegetable.
> the German Mac11
now with more plastic!
I can't wait for the new series bros, I hope they get a move on with it
just go cut that barrel.
yeah by far the worst part, I'll have to sbr it but I'm lazy
efile literally took me 1 week.
>I can't wait for the new series bros
Have you not seen any TV recently then? A new Stargate would be a horror show.
I'd like to reserve judgement until actually seeing the new series. I'd rather have a new series than nothing at all, it's better that they at least try. Eventually we will get something worth watching. Until then I've at least got what they've made already.
>I'd rather have a new series than nothing at all, it's better that they at least try
What happens if you get a new series and it becomes clear in the first few seconds that they definitely didn't try?
like I said I still have the existing stuff and I'm still thankful to have that. Literally no risk to me, I'm not forced to watch it if it's bad. I only stand to potentially gain another series that is good.
That's a very optimistic take. I do honestly hope that it turns out well, I've just been burned too often with 'exciting new X' to work up that much enthusiasm for it anymore.
yeah that's definitely true. Since it's the same writer I hope that there's higher odds of it being good. No guarantees though.
yeah specifically due to the ongoing merger which was completed. So in theory now it could get unblocked. Did Brad ever say that directly btw? I vaguely remember reading that a year ago but can't recall
>Since it's the same writer I hope that there's higher odds of it being good
Same here, but the people to keep an eye on are the editors/producers/executives - at the end of the day they're the ones making the decisions and imposing the direction of the show. After what we've seen of Rings of Power I don't know how much credibility Amazon's editors/producers/executives have.
>Did Brad ever say that directly btw?
If he did I missed it, last I heard from him was that the merger was done and there shouldn't be anything else standing in the way of the show - that was a while ago though.
Easily DS:9, with the good bits of next gen in a comfortable second place and the later seasons of Enterprise following in third.
it's my bad, he did actually say that. Was trying to remember if it was nerd speculation or what but this article confirms it
he also recently said he thinks it might not see the light of day then goes back on that and says the fans might help make it a reality.
it's possible they replace it with shit, but they literally cannot replace the old thing since I have physical media. One of the benefits of this stuff being pre-streaming era.
you take that back
>they literally cannot replace the old thing since I have physical media
That's what the Laserdisk guys said too.
>the fans might help make it a reality.
That's pretty much just show-speak for 'OK, so it's probably not happening, but if you guys make enough noise we might be able to spin that into more work for us on another project'.
The Cardassians might not be the Borg or the Romulans - but DS:9 was the first trek to dig into proper serialised stories, just a little too soon to really enjoy the success it deserved for that. Also the Dominion absolutely was a threat on par with any of the others the Federation faced.
Someone in the show needed to treat the Nox and Tollan the way Cmdr Sharp does in that fic.
>DS:9 was the first trek to dig into proper serialised stories
I'll never forgive that bloated goold for cucking my boy worf.
Come on, it's not fair to compare the Dax's to the GOOLD. The Goold had style.
>Literally no risk to me, I'm not forced to watch it if it's bad. I only stand to potentially gain another series that is good.
You're correct in principle, but not in practice. The whole point of subversion is to tear down the [old things] and replace them with your [new thing]. As long as the [old thing] still exists, the job isn't done.
Poor Gene.
which is the best trek series, in your opinions
I like DS9 but it's basically the one series I watched
>best
>one Capitan to rule them all
TNG not even a question.
The Cardassians were never meant to be a real threat.
I really liked TNG and Voyager. They were all cool in their own ways though. It's really cool watching ToS and comparing to later series.
Enterprise ended too soon, that finale was too good.
>Enterprise ended too soon, that finale was too good.
>Tucker gets killed by a fricking wall because something something pirates
Lol, Lmao, even
>Enterprise ended too soon
True. The Expanse story line went on too long, but the entire concept of why ridgeless Klingons, "Reed Alert", ect was valid.
>Enterprise ended too soon, that finale was too good.
I stopped watching after the entire bullshit season with the suiliban and the xindi bullshit. what the frick. whatever israelite writer and israelite producer that green lit that shit should be shot in the nutsack, twice.
>I just want mooooore
>Mooooore content
>Feed me mooooore.....
>consoom, consoom, consoom, consoom...
Your zombie kind killed the west. You happily fueled the engine that ruined the world.
lmao stfu moron. I don't consume anything they put in front of me. I only watch shit that is good and they will do it regardless of my approval or not.
didn't they reveal some twist like someone who was vulcan was actually romulan? It's been so long since I watched that
>Excuse you, I'm very picky about what I shovel into my maw, I'll only consooooooom poison when it's mixed in with the right amount of sugar.
The nicest thing your enemies ever did for you was tip their hand, and you're here trying to coach them back into getting your money for snacks. You want the media networks and corporations that fund your enemies with your money to stop selling things you don't like so that you can give them more of your income.
I don't give a frick about your politics. I don't even know what enemies you're talking about. I don't really get your point here nor do I really want to argue with you over this. I just want good shows and I will watch them if they make them. You think I'm paying for any of this shit? lol
Not even him but it's clear as day that you are a mindless zombie. The CONSOOM meme stereotype incarnate.
Maybe some people just want to have sex with overweight, wrinkly, post-menopausal Amanda Tapping?
you've spun some moronic narrative based on a couple sentences in a mongolian basket weaving forum. It's clear to me that you're a brainless sheep
>I don't know what you're saying I don't care about anything just shovel more sweet things into my face!
Adam Baldwin rocked.
This pyro fxs are as good or better than Tour of Duty.
A guilty pleasure of mine is an old X-COM/SG1 crossover fanfic.
Well for close range personally AA 12
Saiga 12.
And the 74 u would be competent.
But hey didn't they at first instead of using the P90 didn't they use the MP5?
>didn't they use the MP5?
yeah, and they quickly figured that 9mm is a shit round
MP7 would be better because it's more conceable so you can look friendly when aliens don't wanna attack you.
SGA and SGU are not overly hated and are not misunderstood gems they are complete and UTTER shit
Well, there. He said it. We were all left with that nagging feeling, but kept quite about it and "this guy" goes and spills the bean pot.
>Is the p90 really the best weapon for a team exploring alien planets?
Many guns lead to the Great Path. Only the willing will find their way.
Here's a thing that always kinda bugged me. They made all manner of super impressive ship weaponry, special gadgets to kill this that and the other, but why not a Tau'ri "militarized" staff weapon? Imagine the rebel Jaffa with "staff weapon" rifles that had red-dots, bayonet lug, and maybe even build in an under barrel zat blaster for a true multi-purpose frick you. Ruggedize the whole thing like an AK so they can bash people with it, and lettem go to town.
Because the staff weapon cant do anything that the Zat cant do already. The Zat is a huge plot hole in the series.
I dunno, takes multiple hits to kill with a Zat, and you never see them used at anything beyond really short range. But, hey, lets make real-boy Zat's, that you can aim and don't go "CLACK-Bweee-Ooo" when you're getting ready to shoot. Laser sights, better pistol ergonomics, less... bent-penis-shaped.
You're really not thinking this through my guy.
First, we see Zats used at the exact same ranges as staff weapons, out to their maximum range.
Second, taken out of combat is taken out of combat. Who gives a shit if they're only knocked out? You can slaughter them at your leisure now that they're incapacitated.
Third, three shots from a Zat can disintegrate like three hundred pounds of metal and meat, whereas canonically the Staff weapon can be laughed off by quarter inch steel plating.
Fourth, and most importantly, the Zat is like one fifteenth the size and weight of a staff weapon. Think about this for a second, you could literally rig up three Zats on a fricking broomhandle and it would be a million times more powerful than the staff weapon while still being lighter and easier to use.
They do look like penises though. That comes with the territory of being designed by a giant evil penis.
I think you could do a lot worse.
>my reproductive organ is on the inside
Hot as frick