Is the FBI Hostage Rescue Team the most elite unit in the world? Who is above them if anybody?

Is the FBI Hostage Rescue Team the most elite unit in the world?

Who is above them if anybody?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    VDV

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Quite literally

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They're

        lmao what are you fricking moronic? HRT barely trains for direct action outside of the very specific situations that warrant their deployment, almost any other CTU in the United States cross trains for harder action and probably gets more time doing it live. Guys in the HRT have more important jobs to do than just pull triggers and be high speed low drag.

        >HRT barely trains for direct action outside of the very specific situations that warrant their deployment, almost any other CTU in the United States cross trains for harder action and probably gets more time doing it live.
        Basically. If dod could operate in the states you wouldn't even want these dickheads showing up.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They shot down our jet!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      VEH DEH VEH

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Physically above sure, temporarily.
      Well, they were.
      Are there even any vdv left?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    rate their equipment

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >b guy in the middle
      >get FRT patch
      >oh fug

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >orange

      Neat.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ive never seen any government agency utilize straight angle magazines in an AR before.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The orange barrels make me think it's a simunition type setup, with propriety magazines to feed only the marker rounds and clear to ensure no live rounds are in them.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah those are sim round mags

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Theyre 9mm Simunition magazines
        >only one section of the mag is the ammo stack
        > orange muzzle and stock to stop dumb Feds using live guns in training or viceversa

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          marking your training guns is normal and intelligent

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This honestly looks worse than any regular army leg unit. Probably like big city SWAT team tier.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well yeah, most of the time they train as a SWAT team would, for domestic threats I’m usually an urban area. They do deploy overseas however, and when they do their gear is on par with the SOF/SF guys they are embedded with.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >that peq-2

      is this an old picture?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >is this an old picture?

        this one is from august 2019

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >thermal and night vision in broad daylight in front of cameras
          fake and gay

    • 2 years ago
      IL4DD

      What top is that? I would like to purchase some. Or ones that look like it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is not FBI HRT.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >This is not FBI HRT.

        it's possible they are FBI swat. they dress the same way.

        but this image

        https://i.imgur.com/nkDbhXI.jpg

        >is this an old picture?

        this one is from august 2019

        is directly from the fbi.gov website

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Multicam base and RG is peak aesthetic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this picture is ancient. HRT, has la rue rails and spuhr mounts.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    USMS SOG is pretty slick too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the gun.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      FRICK THE FEDS

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >building tagged to shit
      >pretty slick
      lmao, they were blinded by fricking Black folk.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >eat spinach

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who have they ever rescued?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    postal police

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the mailbox cover
      lmao

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, what good are they as postal police if they can't defend a mailbox?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Damn he do be packing a thicc trunk

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      New york city sanitation police

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        its a constant fight against an unstoppable enemy

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >*BRAAAAP*

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >that shit eating grin

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The streets are dirty and I'm gonna clean em up *law and order noises*

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      O.0

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      11/10 ass on the right

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Game changing stability starts with a firm rear

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      he got the dumpy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >postal service guy using the mailbox for cover instead of protecting the mailbox

      fricking pigs.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Actually considering this as a profession because of my previous experience as as a Mail Carrier. I've always wanted to do something to stop drugs from ruining communities.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      tight pants = tight groupings

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      mirin

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    lmao what are you fricking moronic? HRT barely trains for direct action outside of the very specific situations that warrant their deployment, almost any other CTU in the United States cross trains for harder action and probably gets more time doing it live. Guys in the HRT have more important jobs to do than just pull triggers and be high speed low drag.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They are retired, middle-age SOCOM personal.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    im pretty sure every single hostage situation is over before these shitheads arrive

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Fricked by Chrisp Rat/10

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    nasa security

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The guys who guard the nuclear power plants go pretty hard.

      This 100%. I had a family friend in the realm of these places (can't say what) and I can confirm they post absolute goon squads at these types of locations. I'm talking Delta-tier former operators.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Its more likely that "delta-tier" former operators get out and get first dibs on these security gigs by virtue of being high-speed and already cleared for the security. So its like a retirement package.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      KSC Security were one of the first adopters of the MP5. They only guard the NASA facilities though. Most of the range is guarded by Air Force Security Forces due to Cape Canaveral mostly being DoD land. Vandenberg is strictly DoD, but NASA has a few facilities there too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Standing guard all day in the open Florida sun with no shade must suck, give the poor guy a boonie cap at least

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you just stay over there, and we'll be a happy little human race.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The guys who guard the nuclear power plants go pretty hard.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      This 100%. I had a family friend in the realm of these places (can't say what) and I can confirm they post absolute goon squads at these types of locations. I'm talking Delta-tier former operators.

      department of energy's srt, right? i knew a guy who did that in nevada. he was a former army engineer, though, and he says they were issued sr-25s, which i guess makes sense since they were in the middle of the desert.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw had it in to get a armed nuke job but fell for uni meme and do nothing but give narcan to junkies in a big city now
        It isn't fair bros.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nuclear employee here
      No they don't.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        To clarify, they do train a LOT, there's a private range at basically all plants in the country with guard towers, barriers, simulated vehicles on tracks, etc.. they regularly conduct plant wide MOUT training with MILES gear, they bring in USMC once or twice a year for force on force (marines have capture and control objectives in the plant and assault it)
        I know one plant has a CROWS tower, and a full fleet of armored vehicles.
        And the entire plant is designed with defense in depth 50cal rated barriers.
        Guns are predominantly SIG MCX SBRs with either a SIG red fot or aimpoint, sometimes a thermal scope, or Armalite brand M4s with a PRO.

        But the security teams are literally securitas usa guards that make like $25-$32 an hour TOPS and have an IQ somewhere around rural police. They're not hard operators, and they're not very good at their jobs. They look high speed on paper but that's about it. The plant is just designed in a way that even fat black women could successfully repel SEALs, so it doesn't matter.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Oh and one plant in an arid area has M1a national match rifles for the shift sniper positions, and 10CFR20 has provisions for explosives use by security, but I don't know if anyone actually has HE on site.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Hanford? I've heard weird things about f150 technicals with .50s.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You are making the mistake of associating DOE with commercial nuclear power.
              I don't work with DOE, I'm describing privately owned civilian commercial power plants.

              Better money than I made as an actual cop and its easy? And you get cool toys and training? AND I can not be very good at it?? Sounds awesome.

              You made more a year as a cop, I guarantee it. Security are the lowest paid people at a power plant.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Try ~18-22/hour and humping calls all day. 25-32 to frick around is nice for a poor working class dipshit like me

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What state? LEO experience is an easy in to plant security.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Better money than I made as an actual cop and its easy? And you get cool toys and training? AND I can not be very good at it?? Sounds awesome.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        DOE nuke guys != fat private security Black folk

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I dont know about going hard but the dude at mine is ex-swat and got a portable rocket launcher in the back

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Who is above them if anybody?
    your mom

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    their only peers when it comes to HR is Bragg and Dam Neck

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In 1993 at Waco, the FBI hostage rescue team killed more civilians than they had ever rescued.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A worse track record than spetsnaz after the Moscow movie theater crisis and the Belsan siege
      Holy shit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How many people died in the spetznaz gassing?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          170 people (presumably counting terrorists) out of 850 hostages
          So, if the guy I replied to is correct, they have a better rescue to kill ration than FBI HRT

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            there were no hostages at Waco to rescue

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            the fbi take hostages they dont rescue them

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    CAG

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    DEVGRU, everyone else is basically pure shit

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly the DEA FAST team probably gets in more fights

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Doubt it, especially now that we aren’t in Afghanistan anymore. DEA FAST has seen some shit in South America and Afghanistan but a lot of it was what they would do back here in the US, just in a war zone.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How many of these units are essentially jobs programs to keep ex-SF from acting like 19th century filibusters?

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Vermont Highway Patrolman. Wait that was super troopers. Nvm

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you're talking generally, almost every other single agency/detachment in virtually every government, including the US because the DOE had 9mm Colt SMGs that were just cool as frick. When it comes to CTUs / spec-ops, JTF2 has a much better track record and reputation just in the west let alone in deployment alongside standard military detachments.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    they couldn't catch one rogue seal with a gunshot wound in the California desert even with drones

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      another hollyweird film where the plate carrier is a full foot beneath the collarbone

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        SEALs aren't the brightest bulbs in the box. Why did they barely use their fricking NODs in a pitch-dark tunnel complex? Why didn't they cut the tripwire? Why didn't they cut the cables leading to the semtex? Why didn't they realize that there was English-labeled explosive lining the walls hinting at a setup?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          How often to do SEALs actually do scuba missions?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They still get trained in scuba diving and underwater demolition, but in practice they keep trying to compete with Rangers and MARSOC for missions better suited for ground-pounders and have had a bunch of high-profile frickups as a result.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >seals competing with Rangers

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You realize it was a TV show not based on anything right lol

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They come in handy when the state or city has inadequate resources to defeat crime.

    Does anyone know if they flew to uvalde?

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Literally any top military unit, concluding that HRT and CIA SAD are above Delta force because they hire people who worked in Delta is like concluding that the Sports Center broadcasting announcers are the best basketball team in the world

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >concluding that HRT and CIA SAD are above Delta force

      well one big problem is we will never know what CIA SAD really does in combat because it's secret.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        same with any tier 1 unit, all activities top secret or need to know, doesn’t mean we don’t know what they do
        They aren’t clearing buildings or rescuing hostages, if anything elite spies are spending their time getting caught on camera giving rocuronium to arms dealers in dubai hotels or whatever

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Me

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >bpa

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, the Space Force’s Orbital Drop Shock Troop units are

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    camouflage should be banned from police service, they aren't the military and it creates a mental image of them being integrated with the military, which is not comforting to anyone

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like a homosexual, but you aren’t totally wrong. They need to just wear OD green. I will say this though, if any shit ever hits the fan (invasion, civil kerfuffle), police tactical teams are 100% getting integrated into the military, like we saw happen with KORD in Ukraine in the early stages of the war, or Russia deploying some of their equivalent of fed tactical teams.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        well yeah, police are basically an auxiliary to enforce state tyranny, they don't give a single frick about citizens but it doesn't mean they should be running around larping as socom to round up drunk beaners and every two bit criminal that waves a glock around

        I agree. I also think visible tattoos should be disqualifying — I don’t want cops looking like fricking pirates or convicts or goons.

        i agree, but it's not as bothersome as some larper showing up to your neighbors house in full kit to seize 4oz of weed

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        well yeah, police are basically an auxiliary to enforce state tyranny, they don't give a single frick about citizens but it doesn't mean they should be running around larping as socom to round up drunk beaners and every two bit criminal that waves a glock around

        [...]
        i agree, but it's not as bothersome as some larper showing up to your neighbors house in full kit to seize 4oz of weed

        kek morons

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. I also think visible tattoos should be disqualifying — I don’t want cops looking like fricking pirates or convicts or goons.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're right

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Most communication is non verbal. When police wear camo it gives the impression that they're at war with their own people. Discerning the validity of that impression is a different topic but it can't be argued that is the message delivered, because wearing military camo is ostensibly directly associated with being in the military, and the military's job is to go to war. If anything, by wearing camo, police are mimicking military appearance to soak some of the military's favorable public image and that's not fair to either party, nor is it fair to the citizens who actually pay both other parties.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a former cop and agree 100%. Our local part time swat team wore all OD green and camo was explicitly banned. Also didnt like black because it made you look like a death squad or whatever. I think blue or green is appropriate.

      You sound like a homosexual, but you aren’t totally wrong. They need to just wear OD green. I will say this though, if any shit ever hits the fan (invasion, civil kerfuffle), police tactical teams are 100% getting integrated into the military, like we saw happen with KORD in Ukraine in the early stages of the war, or Russia deploying some of their equivalent of fed tactical teams.

      Issue is that feds would be spread thin. Theres sporadic federal agents around every population center in the US doing various things. From FBI safestreet task forces to DEA to Food and Drug or US Postage doing whatever the frick they do (not much in my experience). Even then more than half of them would be too stupid to manage a local force of state/local LE to accomplish govt directives. Maybe the Natty Guard but a lot of them are basically worthless and moronic as well. Local beat cops are just dudes answering calls for service and managing traffic for the most part. Hardly good for riots as we saw summer 2019 much less complete shit the fan.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Maybe the Natty Guard but a lot of them are basically worthless and moronic as well. Local beat cops are just dudes answering calls for service and managing traffic for the most part. Hardly good for riots as we saw summer 2019 much less complete shit the fan.
        That's generally the point. Ukraine loses around 200 men per day, in all out war you just want poorly trained men to throw at the enemy and pay the blood toll.
        Anyone who's vaguely competent seems to be shoved into "UA SOF." I bet a similar thing would happen to America, anyone who's competent gets shoved into "elite" units.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Literally any armed man can handle an American riot. One assault rifle and a full chamber and a solid resolve is all that is needed. As soon as you shoot one guy everyone else disperses and its over, no one's getting hurt anymore and all the buildings that might otherwise go up in flames stay intact.
          But no no no, that would be immoral and polarising

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Got to remember that a decent chunk of those cops who would do well integrated into a military unit are probably going to get called up as a part of the guard anyway. A third of my unit are cops for Christ sake

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The Guard and Reserves guys I worked with when I was a cop were all fricking morons and twonwere complete pussies but I'm sure it varies broadly by area/unit, etc

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Is the FBI Hostage Rescue Team the most elite unit in the world?
    Right after the CIA's SAD, yes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >skull mask
      Defenetely a airshitter

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We've got a Wikipedia-reading expert here everyone

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Musket + Suppressor
      >NODs
      >Scope
      >No laser or any way to aim with night vision
      What did he mean by this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      SAD/Orange/Army of Northern Virginia is an actual Army Reserve unit with glowBlack folk because they are often Title 10 when they are operating operationally in the operational area.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they do not look like that

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Who is above them if anybody?

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Brazilian Units probably got the most experience and highest body count in the world.
    Motherfrickers wearing cowboy hats, and firing obscure WWII machine guns off the sides of Littlebirds n shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *Brazilian Units like BOPE*

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Me and the homies at Pinellas Co shootin range.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When you need to burn an entire churchload of women and children to death, the HRT are the troons to call in the U.S. The only better outfit internationally are the Russian Spaznats, who can gas an entire theater or blow up an entire school just to kill the half dozen terrorists inside.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've interacted with these gaybags before and I can say without a doubt they are the most arrogant pricks within the DOD bar none. Secret service, Delta, CIA (I don't really know if I met a CIA guy, just a guess based off where he was and what was going on) are all far more professional and laid back. HRT have their heads so far up their own asses it's unreal. Biggest bag of chodes I've ever been around and their superiority complex is utterly unwarranted considering they're just a SWAT team that gets to play with GPNVG's.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Great fiction story any non-fiction?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Being stationed in the National Capitol Region will have you brushing shoulders with lots of 3 letter agencies. I've never actively worked with any of them except secret service and CAG (and that was extremely briefly/not very exciting) but I've spoken to and been around quite a few dudes who are part of spooky government units and agencies. HRT is by far the least pleasant group of buttholes around.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          8th and I or camp david?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            JBM-HH, not a Marine

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I hate army marchers so much it's unreal.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I can promise you we hate ourselves more than you ever could. So glad to have left that duty station even if I did get to interact with spooks from time to time

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I havent talked to any HRT guys but can confirm that the FBI are douchebags. Frick those dorks. DEA are way cooler, laid back, fun to be around. DEA also shoot a lot more frickers on takedowns. And the people DEA shoot tend to be actual shitheads. Cartel or gang members.
      >local yokel piggy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >FBI
      >DOD

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Their acronym is HRT so they're retroactively ruined forever

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    HRT is the retirement home of high speed sof dudes / some tier 1.
    that's where they inherit their training programs / ttps as well.

    so from their own organizational structure, they're not first and never will be.

    first will always be tier 1 SMUs and CIA SAD/SOG/SAC spooks e.g. Mike Glover, Shawn Ryan, Evan Hafer.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >CIA
      >first
      CIA's a retirement slot too.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >CIA's a retirement slot too.
        you think they're joining to be analysts?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Mike Glover did it to get away from the feel good politics starting to infest socom (investigate every killing in a military op). Then CIA got infested next and he quit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            politics don't discredit the capabilities of the actual pipe hitters doing clandestine shit

            Glover said CIA has the hardest shooting qualy out there.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              said pipe hitters are gtg for sure.
              Problem is pipe hitters are under the command of others, and some commanders are actually moronic. I recall MGs interview with Jocko
              >hey Mike you're good to go back out on missions
              The frick you talking about, I just got back from a mission
              >Oh, well, you were under investigation for that guy you killed
              What? We kill people all the time! We're soldiers!
              >Oh, well, nvm, you got cleared this time so no worries

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I know a few guys who have shot that CIA qual. But let's be real on the clan shit. Just another GS on TDY.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No, they're retiring to babysit embassies, analysts, and humint types. There's no elite secret mission spy movie nonsense. It's a bodyguard/security guard slot.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Shawn Ryan straight up said assassinations were part of mission profile

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you're confusing SAC SOG with GRS, two completely different missions

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >you think they're joining to be analysts?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            why is that chick named Jeff?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >misgendering Jeff
              That's pretty insensitive, anon.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The analyst is named Jeff too. Both the analyst and the chick are called "Jeff Anderson"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody wants a bunch of terrorist-exterminating dickheads running domestic hrt. That's for considered, older people who set up an environment of minimum collateral damage. Somebody with serious ragrets and a will to not repeat them.

      Let the meatheads grind meat, that's what they're for.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Reddit spacing

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >FBI

    Sure if your opfor is crazy SSRI kid shooters, a religious cult with women and children, or a backwoods family doing some gunsmithing on the side. Then sure. Yeah. They're the toughest of the tough. Real badasses. They put the OP in operator.

    *retch*

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    HRT bows to Uvalde PD

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah if you need a dog or a nursing mother murdered there definitely the guys to call.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if they are so elite how come i never heard of them rescuing anybody?

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Obligatory

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >no USMS SOG
      needs update

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      jgsdf has to be changed now

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How do you guys learn about all of these foreign agencies?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Autism

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    any LEOanons? I'm applying to be a Federal U.S. Parole Officer. Wish me luck.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why the frick would you want that job??

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's an easy or easier 'in' for Federal LE work. Also it's a great way to work with and connect/network with other Fed LE Agencies(ICE, USMS, DEA ect) that might end up helping me move to another branch when the time comes. Also since it's a govt LE job they auto approve you for an age waiver if the time comes and you need it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Oh so youre just using it to get into the federal system. Carry on, that makes sense. I thought you were like "hooray I'm gonna be a PO!" lol

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you can ignore that they just injected a speedball and instead just tell them to clean up their room, you'll do fine.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Who is above them if anybody?
    Take their equipment and training, give to someone from Vietnam.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    People called me schizo for stating this before but i believe there are high speed units for clandestine glowBlack person bullshit that you probably don't know the name of, and these units don't exist permanently, but are more like ad-hoc unit formed for a specific mission or group of interconnected tasks, and when they have finished their job they're disband again, so even in the remote chance that it is found out what they did, no one can pin it on anyone.

    Basically give everyone in the unit a false identity, don't even give the "unit" a real name, and when it's done everyone goes their seperate ways again.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's basically the plot of Reservoir Dogs

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        and Sicario

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Are you cleared Delta Green? They're called Task Forces.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They do that shit all the time. That's not exactly a secret.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Rhode Island troopers.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Vagiclean huh?

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    idk man i saw something called alfa team or something like that on cod i think it is better

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      oh it was delta now i remember i think they are the best

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Every ukro or vatnik soldier with a few weeks of combat experience is better than any FBI team. Actual combat experience trumps whatever training they have. So no, they aren't even close to being the most "elite" unit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      To be more verbose; I would be surprised if there is a single FBI or CIA special force in existence defeating the average front line unit even remotely. No chance.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        A semicolon is used to separate two independent clauses, but you're right

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nice b8 m8, but nobody is actually that moronic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        what do you mean b8? it's an obvious observation that front line units would wipe the floor with any "special force" without actual combat experience.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      To be more verbose; I would be surprised if there is a single FBI or CIA special force in existence defeating the average front line unit even remotely. No chance.

      I've seen FBI on the OBJ in AFG. They rolled out in all of the Gucci kit and basically hid in a mud hut when the shooting started. The ODA on the OBJ was not impressed.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I've seen FBI on the OBJ in AFG. They rolled out in all of the Gucci kit and basically hid in a mud hut when the shooting started.

        That's because the FBI doesn't go overseas to engage in combat. They go there to observe, train, and collect evidence for the united states.

        https://i.imgur.com/nnt06Xz.jpg

        The Rhode Island troopers.

        Fifty years ago these were the types of officers to smack the shit out of you if you talked back to them.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          State Troopers used to be badasses almost across the board. NC ones used to be pretty tough. Carried convoy saps into the 90s and 2000s and werent afriad to use them. But now they're homosexuals with an inflated ego.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            At least in Florida (and I suspect most other states as well) the Highway Patrol was a depression era jobs program for out of work WWI veterans. The idea was to keep them on a state payroll so they would be less likely to get hungry and go red/black. Drivers Licenses got started as a way to fund it. Once the economy recovered they were kept because more power is better than less power.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Collect evidence
          Saw no evidence of that. Nah bro, they were scared. In other words, like most GS/GG they are just collecting a check and are cool to show up fully kitted out to arrest grandma. They fold like a sheet of paper in the face of even modest resistance.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You called vatniks soldiers, and better than something. Prepare to be hohol spammed

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Elite (my interpretation of your use) means highest retention and lowest selection rate through a long process. I (career army) would go with PJ. They are JSOC tier shooters, but have capabilities to rescue and bear hostile natural and human environments

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >They are JSOC tier shooters,
      Lol. Lmao. Have you seen the image of that fricker with the upside down mags? Fricking wgws tier moronation.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Tbf that guy was an LT on his first deployment

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FBI Hormone Replacement Team

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Heretic Removal Team

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >PUT YOUR HANDS UP YOU'RE UNDER ARREST FOR POSESSION AND DISTRIBUTION OF CHILD PIZZA

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I wasn't expecting that.

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When I went to CQD school (where Phase 3 BUDS is done) the Navy instructor said that when swat guys are like “we did 100 entries last year”, they are going in super stacked, slow and methodical where as in a non-permissive AOR, you may be blasting house to house, blazing through without clearing every inch of a place, etc. The FIB was direct hiring SpecOps guys a while ago so I’m sure they are pretty salty. I was down there long ago when they were doing touch and go’s with their unmarked Bell and it was cool to watch.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >FBI Hostage Rescue Team the most elite unit in the world?
    Not many units can boast about headshotting a mother holding her child, then burning kids alive in a building.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ISIS

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I remember watching a video of a former HRT member who said their job consist of 95% training and very rarely when they get sent to an area that they actually get to utilize their skill set because local PD or swat can neutralize the situation. Then after 9/11 they started deploying with Seal teams and Rangers to Iraq and Afghanistan because the FBI wanted them to get actual experience. Sounded like a very blue balled occupation

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >their job consist of 95% training and very rarely when they get sent to an area that they actually get to utilize their skill set because local PD or swat cant neutralize the situation.

      to be fair, I believe that's why the HRT exists. they can assist small towns or cities that don't have the adequate resources to deal with a terrorist/hostage event.

      >Then after 9/11 they started deploying with Seal teams and Rangers to Iraq and Afghanistan because the FBI wanted them to get actual experience.

      I remember seeing photos online of FBI being deployed in afghanistan/iraq and I was pretty shocked.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >extend half your body out of cover
    >elite
    They should just stick to setting up morons for false flags. At least they are good at that.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    my buddies and I, zero frens injured or killed, zero of my homosexuals killed or injured. 18 unfrens ded, none injured.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      south america in the 80's doesn't count.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I bet they were injured, and you killshot them anyways.
      yup

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, ghost posting is frowned upon on this board Rangergay

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Japan SAT

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    SAS has always been unparalleled.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they are sabotage experts.

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >FBI Hostage Rescue Team the most elite unit in the world?
    Hahahahahahahahah

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    post operator units of obscure countries
    > Georgian state security service SOF

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unit 777

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Who is above them
    Spetsnaz. Kill them all. Let God sort them out.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Who is above them if anybody?
    GIGN

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >when the terrorists are white

    >when the terrorists are brown

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Who is above them if anybody
    Me

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-181-chris-whitcomb/id1187664795?i=1000479173008

    Here's a podcast with one of the founders of HRT. They have Delta level selection and training. And apparently do global direct action.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >They have Delta level selection and training
      No, no they don't. I have known HRT and CAG guys. HRT are good shooters but they are not going to infiltrate into a non permissive AO.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >delta level
      Only the SAS can make that claim, otherwise, nah
      >FBI
      Fricking NAH

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've spent my entire life since graduating high school with the goal of attending selection for HRT. I'm pretty far in the pipeline of checking boxes to apply under the tactical recruiting program. I'm also prior combat arms.
    I know as much about them as you can get without actually being a fed.
    I'm going to skip all the BS and get to the point.
    FBI HRT has been in the stack with Delta and other tier 1 units. This is confirmed by Delta veteran Chris VanSant who has been a guest on many podcast. They work with just about any SOCOM unit and are undoubtedly on-par. They were present for a grab operation in Libya where they were with CAG going after those responsible for Benghazi.

    The entire point of their existence is to be a Tier 1 unit responsible for CT/HR on US soil to prevent military from doing it and to achieve FBI objectives abroad in conjunction with Mil.
    Is CAG/Devgru better? Yes, because they still have to learn military shit like calling in arty for example. But purely in the HR sense, using evidence they are at least equivalent. (Rescuing the boy in the bunker)

    Any answer that comes to a different conclusion is wrong. There is a lot of LARP and anti-fed redneckism in this thread. WACO and Ruby ridge will always be brought up but in the grand scheme of the Unit, doesnt mean anything.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      All that effort to get in to be disqualified because you post here, sad!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Training does not equal experience. How many actions do they see that are actually meaningful?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not going to lie and say a lot, but the few high profile ones within the last decade have been successful.

        There is only one Unit and it's not HRT bro

        You're thinking of " The Unit " I was just using the word in the regular sense.

        >I've never worked with HRT or JSOC, but bro trust me, they are totally on the same level.

        HRT is very good for domestic HR, probably. Does anyone know a situation where HRT actually did HR?

        This
        HRT was formed to prepare for back when terrorists took hostages for days at a time. That doesn't happen anymore.

        Theres been 2 I can think of from the top of my head. The most famous one was the Alabama bunker thing that I mentioned earlier.

        I'd like to present the argument that they dont happen anymore because all these police/military teams serve as a deterrent.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      oh great it's the fanboy, I can tell by your IP. Buddy it's time to give up, just face it, not everyone can get on HRT. The HRT program turns the manliest of men into sissies, you gotta have hair on your chest just to be considered a starting point. Me and the Girls over at Langley always make fun of this chump for simping over us so hard. He keeps calling my partner and asking to talk to me, idk how he keeps getting the number. You will never be an HRT

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There is only one Unit and it's not HRT bro

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I've never worked with HRT or JSOC, but bro trust me, they are totally on the same level.

      HRT is very good for domestic HR, probably. Does anyone know a situation where HRT actually did HR?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This
        HRT was formed to prepare for back when terrorists took hostages for days at a time. That doesn't happen anymore.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Does anyone know a situation where HRT actually did HR?
        6 months ago

        https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2022/01/16/what-is-the-fbis-hostage-rescue-team-that-helped-the-colleyville-synagogue-hostages/

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That Pakistani Bong probably expected British police who would dance around with him. Instead he got fedboi Matrix
          agents

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hey I've been to that combat town before

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