Is the defeat in Pyatykhatky and loss of almost entire Storm Ossetia actually a strategic win for Russia?

Is the defeat in Pyatykhatky and loss of almost entire Storm Ossetia actually a strategic win for Russia?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    At least Russians are saying that, do they know something that we don't know?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >send a group of russian enclave cannon fodder to hold x position
      >give them zero fire support or resupply
      >when they get overrun delete the survivors with TOS
      >deny their families compensation by saying the 233rd Ossetian Wifebeater Brigade never existed
      >pay an Indian 2 rupee to pretend this was just as planned

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Wifebeater Brigade
        my fricking sides.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/tQdx6jP.jpg

        At least Russians are saying that, do they know something that we don't know?

        How did a single video from a completely different section of the front manage to convince people there is some mass TOS bombardment in this area is beyond me.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ossetians weren't skullfricked by their own side
          Day ruined

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Did you not read the screenshots? Is that beyond you?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >deny their families compensation by saying the 233rd Ossetian Wifebeater Brigade never existed

        So is Russia doing the whole "unperson" thing again?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon they've been doing that since day 1.
          Lookup what is needed for soldiers to get death benefits in Russia. Hint: The death must be formally acknowledged and recognized as a combat loss by the RU MoD, and they have dozens of ways of weaseling their way out of that. Easiest one?
          >No body lol

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The death must be formally acknowledged and recognized as a combat loss by the RU MoD
            AFAIK current acknowledged Russian losses are still in the low tens of thousands, so like maybe 10% of the actual figure

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              120,000 to 150,000 dead by now all in

              >ogrish

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but I meant what numbers the Russian MOD have formally acknowledged
                Obvs the real numbers are way higher, I'm trying to gauge the scale of the con from how badly they understate casualty figures

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's russia not having a fricking clue about where it sends its people, which occurs in every war they fight. Mothers have had to pay huge bribes to find sons in hospital or have them peeled out of what passes for graves registration (literal dead zigger storage surrounded by barbed wire to try and keep animals away) just like in Chechnya and every other war.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like the old Warsaw uprising tactic but unlike the Poles, the Ossetians are important to Russia as they’re the local forces meant to protect their puppet country.

        >losing 300 men in a single engagement means we're winning actually
        goddamn the russians keep reaching new levels of cope

        Russians are the most kind hearted people. Just look at all of their gestures of goodwill for Ukraine.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Actually a treaty wad signed over the return of Pyatykhatky to Ukraine in return for Ukraine’s neutral status. But clearly Zelensky bot was told by his Anglo-Saxons masters to break it almost immediately. Now eyebrows will be raised.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are they trying to gloat over purported use of flamethrowers?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Flamethrowers means TOS.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It looks like TF2 mann vs machine tank

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >moon runes
      >no translations
      go frick yourself you piece of shit.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        r u blind? There are translations below moron

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you actually fricking moronic? Like seriously.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      picrel and below is what they were saying yesterday kek
      >The battle for Pyatikhatki has been activated. Significant reserves are being drawn up from our side to this sector of the front. At the moment, the settlement is a gray zone.

      >Many people ask why we defend this piece of land so much. Pyatikhatki is the first line of defense, the breakthrough of which opens up a denouement and access to Melitopol - the main goal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      so i guess it was another highly successful countercounteroffensive

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        How long untill they say that the first line is actually in the next town?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably tomorrow, considering the battle is now for the next village in line.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So the first line is actually the ones Ukrainians are attacking now? I wonder how poorly the other lines are manned and equipped if this is the case kek.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rather, if we take the statement that Piatykhatky is on the first line, it was taken within half a day or so of being attacked and has been held despite repeated attempts by Russia to retake it.
          So Russia's first line is weak, let's see if the supposed second and third ones have more to them.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            There is no second or third lines. Only first lines all the way to Moscow

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      100% same language as was used about forever russian Kherson. So I guess russia is preparing to 4D feint again.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      even russians are starting to understand you should check twice if a russian tells you the sky is blue

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    We will raise our crumpet and all will be ass.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Khokhol attack on X has been repelled, over 10000 polish-mullato HATO mercenaries, 12 Boris Johnos clones, and 700 Leopold himarses destroyed
    >there is heavy fighting in X, dills are losing 50 divisions an hour
    >X has been temporarily taken by crest, ours counterattack retook it while destroying an entire US Marine corps
    >We never intented to keep X, it's a killbox we kill over 500 million Zelesky a day in*~~)

    It do always be like that

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I saw a Twitter screencap saying that Ukraine was cancelling the counteroffensive 4 days ago so this isn't real

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course it is, this is still all part of the plan. More Ossetian women for chad Moscow dwellers

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently Ukie are already about to take a village after this one.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah its the same strat turkey used.
    Kill all the military age males in aremina via draft in WW1 annex land and women when they are defenseless.
    Its also thier strat for DPR and LPR kill all local males then annex with no chance of resistance.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    More dead Russian Federation minorities is always a win for Russia since it makes it easier to maintain control over those regions. The only bad thing that could happen in this special military operation is if any siloviki or their families would be killed, which will never happen since most of them are safe in Europe.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      On one hand yeah sure but on the other hand the minorities are the only ones having any kids these days. Not a good plan long term.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The only bad thing that could happen in this special military operation is if any siloviki or their families would be killed, which will never happen since most of them are safe in Europe.
      I has always annoyed me to no end that HATO is too pussy to use this ridiculous bargaining chip our enemies are willingly giving us. Imagine the world in which every nook threat or a foreign relation chimput or a clandestine FSB operation on NATO soil = 1 random oligarch child or prostitute suddenly disappearing without trace. Russia would turn into a fricking white dove of nations real fricking quick.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        that is one of the few downsides to rule of law: due process severely restricts operational freedom

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think the biggest thing preventing that among nationstates is the almost certain retaliation it'll lead to. It's not hard to kill a congressman or senator.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Strategy?

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We didn't want it anyway.
    kek

    Every time.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm no expert on terrain in Ukraine, but isn't the supposed high ground mostly east of the village and part of it under Ukkie control?
    Anybody have any convenient topographic maps of the area?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Highground is elevation of 60 meters over 2km length, Ukrainian side North of that village also sits on such elevation

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I did my best Anon, because the website is a pain in the ass to use, but I believe this to be a topographic map of the battle area.

      Link to map site can be found here:

      https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-ht26mt/Lobkove/?zoom=12

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we lured entire counteroffensive into lowland
    >the trap has clenched

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget
      >we lured them into the largest towns and villages, while we're stuck in the hamlets

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i sure hope everyone's evacuated, imagine living in some little village of 60 and these people start fighting over it with leopards and thermobaric rockets

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a video from Ukrainian 128th brigade in Pyatikhatki, which shows a failed Russian tank assault on the village, including some Stugna kino

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russians had a high ground, how is this possible?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        shut the frick up obi wan

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lose position
      >kill reserves trying to recapture it
      >repeat in next position
      so this is the power of defence in depth

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't be surprised if whole offensive looked like that. Slow gains, hitting enemy command and ammo depot's, logistics and artillery. And after months win goes to side with more soldiers and equipment left. Already Russian loses shift more to the older equipment side, Ukrainian have steady supply of NATO weapons so I don't know, odds for russian aren't good in my opinion. Russian probably are trying to gain bit of momentum and initiative and they are trying actively counterattack when ukies aren't dug in in new settlements. But with less and less modern equipment I imagine some of that counterattacks will be free real estate for atgm teams, Bradley's, leopard etc

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >le crumple zone

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's like pottery

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >losing 300 men in a single engagement means we're winning actually
    goddamn the russians keep reaching new levels of cope

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