Yes, you are not stealing from "the man".
"The man" will just pass that cost on customers, or close down the shop once it's no longer profitable.
As far as Krystal here, be thankful someone is willing to hire mentally challenged.
Yeah, we have one of those in town. They charge a ton for anything, so I'll go 20 miles to the closest HD unless I really can't wait or only want to interact with whites.
Anon, small hardware stores died because they had 1/10 of selection, for 2x the price and manned by an old senile grumpy frick. >t. Small towner
We do still have a grump frick auto and grumpy frick lumber.
The lumber guy is based, 3/4 the HD price, cuts to size, has quick loaders. Doing quite well.
Car part one just doesn't have shit in stock and wants to charge you for shipping it to him, might as well use amazon. No idea how he's still profitable.
>Car part one just doesn't have shit in stock and wants to charge you for shipping it to him, might as well use amazon. No idea how he's still profitable.
maybe if 4/5 of north americans werent israeliteed out of a decent job, then we could afford to purchase from a local buisnessman.
Good local businessmen prosper under the footprint of nearby chain stores which serve to draw traffic by their smaller businesses. Winning on customer service is easy.
Want customers? Serve the customer in ways they reward with their custom.
Exactly correct, smart hardware stores that have a big box move in across the street reap a huge increase in business from increased traffic and by beating the box store by offering what they can't/won't provide. Better service is one area that's easy to beat them on, attention to localized needs and seasonal weather/buying habits, economic trends, etc. is another.
Really. I don't think I've gotten any shit from them as long as you have the receipt or the card that was used. Try not scuffing them all up with return scams.
What makes you think they will have an easier time to stay profitable when people steal from them? Do you realise that what you are asking is for hard working people to put their entire life savings into inventory, only to leave them out for anyone to just come and take?
I like the idea of smaller, more community-oriented businesses, but independent shops don't have anything to fall back on when they get robbed dry. Big box stores on the other hand can open and close branches in different locations as demographics change.
Gentrified neighborhoods either have chain businesses including "upscale" ones like Whole Foods or are infested with boutique stores that have a 300% markup, there is no in-between. You did this.
No better way to announce your baked-in poorgay moron mentality than to characterize common theft and its repercussions towards its victims as an altruistic act of social responsibility so you can root for the criminal team with a clear conscience.
Who did anything of the sort? I simply invalidated your moronic claim that those shoplifters are hurting the customer. They are not, on your way rabbi.
If they raise their prices enough, they won't. Lern2economics
12 months ago
Anonymous
LMAO, companies vilified by your ilk just GTFO long before it comes to that, and then you cry some more about how not wanting to be victimized incessantly by brazen thieves while antisocial fricktards clap like seals and egg them on is "greedy".
12 months ago
Anonymous
You seem like you have some weird chip in your shoulder unrelated to the topic at hand. Have you considered therapy or a gf?
if they could charge more for the item, they already would. they would lose money by arbitrarily increasing prices to compensate for theft. they just have to eat the costs. that's why companies astroturf so hard by telling people the theft will increase the prices they pay; they want to prevent the theft.
You know that home depot makes less profits and that's how they're around, right anon? Lowes has even better prices most of the time. Frick driving 40 minutes everywhere to potentially save a few dollars, or in reality pay more time and money and annoyed it's not in stock. I've tried independence stores and they have the same stock from ACE in the 90s at 90s prices or 300% for some reason, and it's missing a key component.
home depot accused me trying to return stolen goods while I had a fricking receipt. all because they couldn't find it in "the system". frick them.
12 months ago
Anonymous
But anon, haven't you heard? You have no choice but to shop there if they charge less for an item than any other local store or online retailer; price is the ONLY factor that guides where you shop.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>5 cents have been deposited into your The Home Depot: You Can Do It, We Can Help!(tm) Checking account. >Good boy!
I worked at a home depot and overheard the manager talking about how much shrink (theft) occurred in the last year. Was over 200K and all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal.
>Was over 200K and all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal.
Writing something off pretty much literally means you lost money/value.
My mom worked part time at Lowes from 2018-2020 and she couldnt believe how much stuff blacks and mostly mexicans would steal (this was in chicago). They would either walk right out with stuff they didnt pay for, or bring back equipment two weeks later after it had been clearly used on a job site saying it didnt work. Sometimes they would find items returned where the box itself was new but the item inside was a broken version they swapped out with the new one.
Eventually she quit because loss prevention kept penalizing her for calling out theives walking out without paying.
>Eventually she quit because loss prevention kept penalizing her for calling out theives walking out without paying.
It was in Chicago; they didn't want her calling out thieves because she was risking the store being ransacked by a flash mob and her being shot.
I worked at a home depot and overheard the manager talking about how much shrink (theft) occurred in the last year. Was over 200K and all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal.
The intrinsic cost of that slave labour garbage is like 1/10 of the retail price. When the company pays for it because their garbage was destroyed or stolen, it's a rounding error. I imported shit from China myself once, paid 20$ a piece for a machine, the retail price of the same device from a local company was 220$, same quality.
>There is no "intrinsic" cost to anything, did you perhaps mean the "cost of goods sold"?
The cost of labour and materials to make the product. It costs 1$ to make it by slaves in china, it's sold for 20$ to fat 1st world people.
If you have to write off the stolen Chinese trash, to you as a business it costs 1$ not the retail price of 20$.
So a shipping container is 1000$ from China to a port, then you throw that onto a train and then truck. Is that 19$, I highly doubt it.
The retail price is probably close to wholesale where the goods are branded and not directly imported.
>Was over 200K and all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal.
Writing something off pretty much literally means you lost money/value.
the meme amongst lefty redditards is that these corporate owned stores have some kind of magical insurance that pays out every time someone robs them or steals from them, so it's morally and socially just fine
Not only that, when any real world insurance does cover some of their losses but the cost goes up, or they have to pay 100% out of pocket or just recoup deductibles and other related costs through the only source of income a functional business has- sales revenues- those same thieving dirt as get to crank up the moral indignation about how "greedy" those corporations are, even though greed is a human trait and "corporations aren't people".
Then when the crime victims say frick it, we're shutting down operations in your lawless "progressive" shithole so you can't keep encouraging and defending this, the moralizing over how this "heartless" action harms the "community" (and especially people of color) goes into levels of decietful moral posturing that would make a disgraced televangelist blush.
the "meme" is actually that the loss from theft is built in to the business plan, so that prices are higher to begin with to cover the loss they predict to come from theft.
so if you don't want to hurt a poor billionaire's feelings, just steal early in the financial quarter so that your theft is most likely one of the first and is part of the quantity of thefts predicted and covered by price hikes
Many stores actually adjust prices from location to location for this reason.
Hop on an auto parts website belonging to a big chain, AutoZone, O'Reilly's, that shit.
Look for an item, there's no price, gotta put in your zip code and select a store.
Pick a store close to you, then try a store in the warzone, the one nearest to the streets you're frightened of.
Prices vary from region to region sure, but why do they vary by over 10% when they're only 10 minutes away from each other?
Tyrone and his boys are reason #1.
yes, but the initial price in both regions is a reflection of a predictive insurance algorithm using last quarter/year's data, which is of course different per area. the point is that the earlier you steal, the more likely your theft was already covered by initial price hikes set at the beginning of the year/quarter and thus the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.
this is also assuming there will be more theft than their model predicts, since in any other case you can steal at any time and it will be covered by their initial price-setting.
tl;dr it literally isn't a loss for the company, depending on if your theft fell within their predictions
1 year ago
Anonymous
>>>thus the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.
>be me, save up 10K to cover for unexpected expenses/emergencies >engine blows in my car and costs me 10K to fix >actually it's free because I accounted for something like this happening
It's like troll physics, but for finances.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>"save up" >by raising prices without any other justification like inflation, only a predictive model that some fresh accounting grad made in python
it was free/unjustified money to begin with, especially if the predictions over-estimate the number of thefts
>the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.
It's very simple: had the theft not occurred, would they have made *more* money?
Of course they would have.
The theft cost them that revenue, on top of the cost incurred in trying to anticipate theft and not lose any more money than they do, via paying the extra cost of insurance premiums and loss prevention procedures and personnel.
you are insane if you don't think the cost of the loss prevention team's work isn't built into all of this price raising. there is never any point at which they will willingly allow anything to take from net profit
>raise prices without producing more value to consumer
now THIS is troll physics
12 months ago
Anonymous
>you are insane if you don't think the cost of the loss prevention team's work isn't built into all of this price raising.
You mean the retail price that isn't generated when the merchandise is stolen and doesn't sell?
>there is never any point at which they will willingly allow anything to take from net profit
So your contention is that they should "willingly allow" thieves to steal the merchandise?
Let me guess, you think offering merchandise that people are free to not buy is "greedy" because the price generates a profit, but stealing that merchandise is morally justified and not "greedy".
12 months ago
Anonymous
no, my contention is always and has always been this: >raise prices without producing more value to consumer
loss prevention isn't even inherently a bad thing, but i don't trust corporate MBAs (and you are helpless if you do) to not abuse their ability to set prices. kroger did this recently with the scapegoat of "inflation" (which was in truth a negligible percent of the cost increase) and as a result i no longer have faith that price raises in other consumer goods have legitimate reasoning. we can suppose all day that a pair of pliers is now $23 instead of $16 due to overseas shipping increases, loss prevention increases, etc., but more than likely a large part of that increase is attempting to sneak profit in when other costs can be blamed. and you won't always be given a breakdown of those increases (if ever)
you can no longer trust that price increases have reasons legitimate to a consumer, so the "trust in the system" of loss prevention, supply/demand, etc. is gone.
this is why it won't matter if jamal steals those pliers, because i'm going to be paying $30 for them next year either way. either loss prevention/shipping/etc. is going to truly require such an increase, or the pricing department will find a scapegoat to justify it. corporations have long been happy to abuse trust, so the lesson seems to be you're a fool to not abuse the system yourself in any way possible.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Who the frick are you to say what profit margin is "legitimate"?
12 months ago
Anonymous
the consumer, who decides with his dollar (or theft). these babies don't get to do whatever they want without consequence like it's a game lmao
12 months ago
Anonymous
>kroger did this recently with the scapegoat of "inflation" (which was in truth a negligible percent of the cost increase) and as a result i no longer have faith that price raises in other consumer goods have legitimate reasoning.
sooo what exactly did kroger do? i didnt see anything on it except some youtube video with some guy making 'soi boi' face
they raised prices in markets with inelastic demand (i.e. goods needed to live) at a time of economic downturn, blaming inflation while the true reason was to increase profits. inflation had barely touched their bottom line, they just wanted more gibmedats
12 months ago
Anonymous
Hi, this is called "the price that the market will bear" and the concept in a free market economy is that hopefully if their price is set too high, then someone else will undercut them in order to profit even more.
Kroger's brand identity is that of an "avocado store"; they're not a lowest possible price grocery store for poor people. If that's what you're looking for, then give Aldi's, Save-a-Lot, or maybe Walmart a try.
If you have mormons around, then try out one of their nonprofit co-op grocery stores.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>at a time of economic downturn
also, while it was an economic downturn, it has also been a time where the poorer demographics in the country had an unprecedented amount of spending money from all those funemployment covid checks. It turns out that printing out money and giving it to poor people winds up with you seeing huge price increases on all kinds of goods and services.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>It turns out that printing out money and giving it to poor people winds up with you seeing huge price increases on all kinds of goods and services.
wasnt massively more 'printed money' transfered to wealthy corporations?
12 months ago
Bepis
Don’t forget all the gov’t agencies and schools that got shit tons of money for sitting at home and hanging $7,000 pieces of plexiglass that probably cost $40 for a regular consumer.
12 months ago
Anonymous
sure, but look at fast food places and doordash etc revenues once the pandemic checks started going around. Not only did big companies get fat checks, but nearly 100% of the money given to poor and average people "trickled up" to these kinds of companies too.
What I'm getting at is that these companies didn't exactly just raise prices for no reason "when people could afford it the least".... Their business model changed to getting more money for 'premium' products at premium prices from customers who can afford it.
Kroger used to be a more low-end or average grocery store whose main business was catered to average joes. Now they're a semi-premium grocery store with ridiculous prices catering to middle class people who have money to blow. The middle class has gotten smaller, so it's not a surprise that their prices have increased in order to cope with falling sales. (basic foods are usually considered to be a commodity with inelastic demand, but it's not true in a categorical way; these stores have shifted their target demographic)
12 months ago
Anonymous
if they want to increase prices and lose 50% of their customer base, that's fine by me. it's being a lying Black person and pretending it had anything to do with inflation that's disgusting. if they had just raised prices without lying, people would largely be happy to abandon them like the "premium" grocery store they are. but that lie about inflation tricked some non-negligible amount of people into believing that they were getting the lowest prices the market would bear.
microecon-101 is all fine and well (in a world with infinite resources that can support infinite growth but we won't touch that for now) but when you use israelitery to manipulate the "price the market will bear", you've stepped outside the cute little freshman model into unadulterated criminal fraud
12 months ago
Anonymous
supply and demand will always exist. if kroger markups are too high you can shop somewhere else
12 months ago
Anonymous
also the price increases are on all products my man, not just the 1% that got stolen and thus didn't sell. they still get the associated profit, this isn't a calculation you do per item
12 months ago
Anonymous
prices without producing more value to consumer
But they do produce more value to the consumer with all the free stuff they provide the community with.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.
It's very simple: had the theft not occurred, would they have made *more* money?
Of course they would have.
The theft cost them that revenue, on top of the cost incurred in trying to anticipate theft and not lose any more money than they do, via paying the extra cost of insurance premiums and loss prevention procedures and personnel.
1 year ago
Anonymous
lefties aren't interested in having an intellectually honest conversation about this kind of stuff; if we're honest about crime policies and statistics then we'll quickly arrive at a solution of systematically exterminating a certain demographic group in their voter base.
I was under the impression that when something of XX amount is stolen or damaged, they can minus that XX amount from the taxes they have to pay the government at the end of the year.
Not the full retail amount. Also doesn't cover the associated costs of ordering, receiving, stocking, inventory-ing, and all the other costs related to having a product on the shelf for some entitled fricktard to steal.
You know, all the costs that are built into the retail markup that entitled fricktards point to as justification for being theives.
Insurance doesn't pay out at retail either, so even when a claim is covered the business loses money over what they would have made had the retail sale been possible.
yup. frick home depot. lets run them out of buisness and maybe the next guy to set up shop will be willing to use his dog and gun to protect his profit margin
Not only that, when any real world insurance does cover some of their losses but the cost goes up, or they have to pay 100% out of pocket or just recoup deductibles and other related costs through the only source of income a functional business has- sales revenues- those same thieving dirt as get to crank up the moral indignation about how "greedy" those corporations are, even though greed is a human trait and "corporations aren't people".
Then when the crime victims say frick it, we're shutting down operations in your lawless "progressive" shithole so you can't keep encouraging and defending this, the moralizing over how this "heartless" action harms the "community" (and especially people of color) goes into levels of decietful moral posturing that would make a disgraced televangelist blush.
The funny thing is that insurance pretty much the perfect communist society. It's literally "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". Everyone chips in a little as a premium so that if one business gets fricked it doesn't have to bear the whole burden.
Of course apparently neither Marx nor any of the modern leftists are capable of thinking one step further, what if everyone gets fricked at the same time?
Ok but the problem is that all insurance absolutely fricking sucks donkey dick.
The economic model of handing people money and expecting them to pinky swear no backsies hand it back when you need it is broken and stupid and people are constantly getting fricked by it.
Everybody and society in general would be better off if they just saved the money they would have spent on insurance.
Really big companies don't pay for insurance for everything. They 'self insure' which just means they expect to have the cash to pay it because they know insurance is a scam.
Last time I heard, our actual insurance agency insurance didn't kick in until like 25 million dollars of damage.
>be corpo >make $100 >technically owe the tax man $35 >spend $100 on merchandise >$100 becomes cost and thus not taxed >owe the tax man $0 >jogger steals merchandise >write down you lost the $100 worth of merchandise so the account matches reality >$100 magically reappears from the ethereal realm of magic and angels, floats down from the sky and into your wallet
Leftoids, everyone.
It's a grey area like all ethics. Following the NAP, yes since all theft is an act of aggression. To anti globalist no since major chain stores allow for community destruction by turning places into econ zones. To utilitarian yes since these large stores are both convenient resupple points and cheaper due to macro economics. Most religions say yes bar any stipulations like the owner being the wrong religion or heretical. Ask yourself what ethical philosophy do you subscribe to and what outcomes you wish to see for yourself, those around you, and humans as a whole.
Small fittings or loose hardware that's normally in packs? Go for it, they won't repack them, just trash them. Putting couplers on the ends of all your pvc and sneaking them in plain sight past cashiers? They train them for that so if you succeed, it's arguably on them.
HD were charging 5.47 for an end-cap.
Another manufacturer here in the US also sells to commercial plumbers and have prices on line. 22 fricking cents.
Nope, the HD ones are made in China.
They’re too stupid to be in business.
What's your point, besides displaying that you don't know frick all about how merchandising works?
Funny thing is that you have no fricking idea what that part actually costs, and simply assume that the lower price is what it "should" cost because that confirms your irrational bias.
In fact that price might be below cost and that kind of pricing model may be specifically intended to injure competitors trying to just break even and is also used to strongarm suppliers into untenable wholesale discounts just to maintain that high volume account.
More importantly though, retail customers who want to grab one while on a trip to HD rather than hunt for a wholesaler who may or may not even sell to them are willing to pay what it costs to grab one off a shelf and consider it money well spent.
Boo hoo.
Small stores are useful for small purchases if you dont want to drive. Driving costs gas, car tear and wear and time which is also worth money. The math says the small local expensive store is sometimes better.
I paid for 8 bags of dirt and took 9 once because I realised one I put in my car was torn and I didn't feel like taking it out so I just took another that wasn't torn.
isn't it kinda well known that big box stores have terrible prices on actual building materials? like wood and metal stock? everyone always says to buy from shops that are dedicated to those materials because HD/lowes rip you off on low quality materials.
everyone's saying the margins are low but i don't understand how massive chains can't undercut local suppliers in those markets.
The short answer is volume combined with strategic pricing/advertisement.
Those big stores purchase in bulk (i.e., cheaper) and spread it across all the chain stores.
Then they use loss leaders to bait you into buying the marked up items. Now multiply this across all the stores across the nation/market.
A small family owned store just simply can't compete with that combo
>A small family owned store just simply can't compete with that combo
Completely wrong and my favorite local hardware store, Wally's in Sumter, SC is proof. Wally many years ago welcomed a Walmart behind him and a Lowes across the street when interviewed by the town paper. He knew they would bring thousands of cars right past his front door and he was right. I've shopped there since 1985.
His small store sells quality service. He has more staff on the floor than the Lowes and they greet each customer. His parking lot is full and he stocks based on actual knowledge and experience (like parts to repair mobile homes which are not the same dimensions as many items designed for conventional houses). His bolt and nut room is where every mechanic goes for hardware.
He retired but the store is still run the same way with the same staff.
Old small stores were greedy c**ts with very limited stock and ripoff prices. They needed to die so they did.
>Do you want to live in a community full of thieves?
i already do. home depot, lowes, all the major big box retailers... all steal from our communities. they roll in, cut their prices and operate at a loss in the region until they put honest businesses out of business, then jack the prices back up higher to make everyone hurt now that there are no alternatives. they siphon all the money from our local economies into their corporate accounts and then offshore to their tax havens so they don't even have to contribute on a national level. they use this money to buy politicians to cut their tax liability even into the negative to suck money from our governments and push for more social support programs for their impoverished workers... forcing states to essentially partially pay their workers' wages.
they're setting the tone here, not me. thieving things from thieves, no ethical quandry here.
you deny that these massive corporations do these (extremely well-documented) things intentionally to siphon the maximum amount of money out of communities? why do you hate american business so much? we don't need your gross global homogeneity.
When you steal things, prices go up for the white people in your community. Your own peoples behavior and lack of moral values is the reason why your community is a disgusting shithole.
Hopefully, one day we can put you all on a boat and ship you right back to where you came from.
prices go up for everyone anyway, don't pretend there's a direct correlation. you voted with your wallet and shut down all their competition and offered them total control over your local economy. they'll use that control now, they'll raise prices forever and bleed you for everything you have, they don't need an excuse. it's their entire purpose for existing.
You're speaking as though it is a given that smaller businesses enjoy making less money and sell their products for lower prices (or at least that HD/Lowes charge higher prices than the small businesses would have if they still existed)
I don't agree with that idea, and I doubt you can point to data that shows it.
You can keep making excuses for your degeneracy, but at the end of the day there are plenty of people who can look themselves in the mirror with self respect, and then there's you--- a hateful, greedy, misanthrope who knows damn well that you have no moral values or value to the greater human community. You're less than a person.
>You're less than a person.
wow, rich coming from the guy eager for massive non-human corporate entities to destroy his country's way of life and strip the world of any value
sure, sure, the guy who wants thriving local economies of people who respect each other is the greedy misanthrope, not the soul suckers in an office meeting room plotting how to best exploit your loved ones most brutally.
12 months ago
Anonymous
You're trying to cook up a whole lot of strawman there, but you're really missing the mark.
Everyone faces adversity in life. We're surrounded by social and economic circumstances that suck. While you can't control the way that you found the world, you can try to control your own actions and responses to it. Some people in your community are honest, hardworking people who do the best they can to take care of their families. And then there's you--- the shitbag criminal degenerate who steals from others and then doesn't even have enough of a spine and take responsibility for his own actions. >other people MADE me steal!
You're disgusting. And so is the culture which normalizes and encourages your degeneracy. You're sick and your culture is a disease.
12 months ago
Anonymous
furthermore, when you try to use whataboutism to justify your crimes, its an insult to all the people out there who work hard and honestly to get by.
Be real: did you NEED to steal in order to survive? Or did you just do it for more decadent consoomer experiences? Because it seemed easier than becoming more skilled, harder working, or more clever?
Other people face harder circumstances than you ever have in your life, and yet most of them don't start stealing and becoming parasites in their own communities.
It's because they're better than you. Morally, socially, and in terms of absolute human worth.
You are worthless human garbage.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>the shitbag criminal degenerate who steals from others
no. home depot is not a person, you fricking idiot. companies are not people. brands are not your friends, you do not have a "relationship" with an orange square and a special font. home depot is not a part of my community on any level, from local to national. >doesn't even have enough of a spine and take responsibility for his own actions
i know exactly what my actions are and i came here to state them clearly: i do this, and it is 100% justifiable. do you have reading issues? >your culture is a disease
again, wow, from the guy who supports the decidedly non-human entity that consumes and destroys human lives as one of its primary functions, and thinks they make good community members. lmao >Because it seemed easier
no. because it's right to steal from the thieves that killed all the local businesses, is gutting the economy to suck its last vestiges of life out of it, and bought the politicians to ensure nobody stops them. >and yet most of them don't start stealing and becoming parasites in their own communities
parasites? lmao. try immune response. again, home depot is not my "community", nor is it yours. they have tricked you very very well i see. distorted your view of what a person is and who a friend is. now you think a color and a font is a friend in your community, and that their corporate pillaging of your home is just and fair.
you're a great asset to them, defending them and their economic piracy for completely free. all they had to do was manipulate your weak-ass social instincts to make you want to defend their global multi-national corporation as a member of your personal tribe. fricking pathetic. literal monkeys know better.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>it's not a person!
Corporations are made of people, numbnuts. It's a social and paperwork construct. You keep saying that "they" aren't people, but you also say that "they" steal and that "they" have tricked me. How could they steal if they don't exist?
I hope that you starve to death.
You're a bad person. You steal from other people, and you blame others for your actions. You make excuses for why you have no values, because you're not enough of a man. You're harmful to the other people around you, and you don't belong in our society.
Are you white?
12 months ago
Anonymous
>Corporations are made of people, numbnuts.
that doesn't make a corporation a person any more than a brick is a house. and how many home depot corporate officers and board members are you friends with in your local community? you think the rank and file employees in your local home depot are home depot itself? that if instead there were a bunch of local hardware and home improvement stores, that those people would not simply be working there instead of home depot? the corporation is the system of rules it operates under. those rules are designed for maximum exploitation and manipulation of vulnerable idiots like you. you're food to them and you love it. >You're a bad person
even if this were true, i'd rather be a person than whatever home depot apparently turned you into. >You steal from other people
not people. non-human parasitic cancers >You make excuses
i justify my actions >for why you have no values
based on my contempt for parasitic exploitative entities >because you're not enough of a man
says the guy gleefully tearing down the idea of local community, economy, family- all in the name of your globohomosexual corporate-owned world fetishism that an orange square and a million-dollar font file tricked you into >You're harmful to the other people around you
only because you consider abstract organizational entities with profit-over-all mandates as 'people' for some reason >and you don't belong in our society
here we go. sure, i agree with this. because in 'your' society, you are a pathetic slave to billion dollar non-human masters that you feed your friends and families to because you have some corporate propaganda whispering in your ear that they deserve it >Are you white?
lmao. sure am bud. let me guess, being "properly white" means letting the global billionaires come in and put their heel to your neck and thanking them for their time like a good boy. you're fricking pathetic. you've sold out your community, your family, your friends, and your dignity.
12 months ago
Anonymous
By the power vested in me by the universe, I hereby formally revoke your status as a white person.
You're not a man, you're less than a human being, and you don't belong in our nation.
No amount of lies or excuses is going to wash away the fact that you have to hide what you are to your family and friends.
You know that if they found out that you were a filthy thief, then they wouldn't trust you to be in their homes or around their families.
You're garbage. Literal trash with arms, legs and a mouth. Absolutely disgusting.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>By the power vested in me by the universe
you have to be a human being to assert your will on the universe bud. you're no longer one. a self-checkout machine might as well be asserting me to be a person of poor character for all i care. humans live in healthy societies. you want to destroy yours, and worse, you want to destroy everyone else's. you're a cancer that will end the rest of us who have souls. >that you have to hide
the frick i do. they're on board. you have this image of a person who is stealing from these entities and is ashamed of it. i'm not. i'm proud of it. i'm doing what's right, and you're aiding the enemy. absolutely pathetic. are your parents this servile? where did you learn it? >Absolutely disgusting
i am actually thoroughly pleased that a corporate propagandist and anti-social turncoat of an NPC thinks this of me. please express more outrage at my actions that offend your owners.
>put honest businesses out of business
my local hardware store sells the chinkiest chinkshit brands at 2x the price of an equivalent normal brand part/tool from lowes or home depot
they're basically a convenience store that sells hardware, the way their business model just has 1.5x prices across the board for no reason
it didn't used to be like this.
small businesses now have two choices:
- be scummy corner-cutting fricks
- go out of business because massive big-box retailers send the bar lower every year
the only way we heal is to eliminate the big-box homosexuals
when people can begin selecting for quality again, they will.
Fricking please, it's always been like this and the "mom and pop" stores refusal to actually cater to people's needs when they dominated smaller markets and thoughtvthey could make the rules and tell anyonecwho didntvlikevit to frick off because there was no easy alternative is a huge factor in why box stores are everywhere now; people got sick of their attitude.
That applies not only to sales but on the employment side as well; for all of the negatives associated with working for a corporate box store, smaller privately held and/or family businesses are often VASTLY worse, with zero room for advancement, no chance of profit sharing or discounted stock ownership, and no recourse whatsoever when they make some entirely self serving decision for the benefit of the owners that ratfricks the people who work there.
People who romanticize "Mom and Pop" are completely divorced from reality; Mom is quite often an ignoramus who has no clue about the products she sells, Pop backs her up in any dispute because "family comes first" even when the customer is actually right, and if you work for them they will hire a criminal uncle or drug addict son to replace you just to save money, and think nothing of it.
>is a huge factor in why box stores are everywhere now
the single largest factor, by an order of magnitude, that contributed to the demise of local business and the rise of big box stores is the undercutting that a larger organization can perform in specific under-performing locales by buffering it from normally- or over-performing locales
so as long as competition in a locale exists, they price themselves continuously 10% lower than any local options. once the competition is gone, they raise the prices back up to "normal" levels above what you were even paying before at the local stores, and continue to a new location.
this applies to employment as well. they offer good pay and bennies when they come in, then once there's no other option in their industry, bam, minimum wage and no bennies and go frick yourself employee, here are some welfare sign-up sheets to allow us to offset the cost of your employment via the local and state governments (which you also pay for in your taxes lmao)
12 months ago
Anonymous
You can keep posting this fantasy cope as many times as you like, facts anyone can observe show it to be utter bullcrap
> where a box store moves into an area with established hardware/ home improvement stores, the good ones that don't act like buttholes not only survive, they prosper
> where there is simply no other hardware/home improvement option than a box store, it's because a box store moved into an under- or un-served market area, not because they drove every other store out of business that was thriving until they came
> both customers and employees can vote with their feet, which is why your "evil box store having an unbreakable stranglehold on a town's qualified labor and customer base and thats what they ALL do!!!" fever dream is laughable moron cringe.
Speaking of which, you have to be at least 13 to post here.
12 months ago
Anonymous
right, so you're claiming that anti-competitive regional undercutting doesn't happen? lol >not only survive, they prosper
item A costs $100 from the manufacturer. local stores charge $110 for it. big boxes move in, charge $80 for it, taking a loss to pull people in to the store for the sale instead of the competition. once the competition is gone, it costs $160 at the big box. this happens continuously. walmart, home depot, best buy, target, you name it. i've seen it happen and you have too, even if you don't like it. >a box store moved into an under- or un-served market area
LMAO >can vote with their feet
lmao. lol.
sure, until the local options are out of business because the big box undercuts them as much as necessary to pull people in before about-facing into a price hike. i'm sorry the truth hurts your feelings, but it's happened tens of thousands of times.
i know you really tie your identity to these massive global corporations but you need to realize that we all - yes you too! - live in reality, not fantasy MBA corpo-space. fricking loser MBA dickrider. they will not reward you for loyalty, paypig
12 months ago
Anonymous
LMAO, touched a nerve, eh?
There are no towns anywhere where WalMart and Home Depot are the ONLY options due to them driving every single other competitor out of business.
ZERO.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>LMAO, touched a nerve, eh?
you wish, corporate wienersucker >ZERO.
source: your ass
go ahead and keep pretending predatory pricing doesn't exist. you'll keep being wrong. i don't understand why you people move to our countries and towns and want to destroy everything they stand for. why don't you just go back to whatever european shithole trained you to destroy local culture & economy? it's already the way you like it there.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>>ZERO. >source: your ass
So name a town where there's no stores to shop or work for in their respective markets other than Home Depot and WalMart, that had those options before those companies moved there.
>go ahead and keep pretending predatory pricing doesn't exist.
Nobody ever said that you histrionic commie homosexual >you people
LOFL, seethe harder at everyone who isnt a theif and/or an ecomonically illiterate juvenile fricktard...are "those people" in the basement with you right now?
As for Crystal, I’m 80% sure I would offer to buy her a one way flight to Liberia if I saw that hat. And offer to drive her to the airport. Business class on Spirit Airlines of course.
are the prices when you buy shit online and have them shipped to you the same as the in-store price typically? that's the only place i can see them competing over smaller shops.
larger amount of sales with smaller margins have always been big box's game.
they have those anti theft devices in almost every product here in Atlantic Canada and we don't even have that high a bigger ratio.we have more parents than bangladesh tho.
my fiance clips leaves from plants and propagates them at home and ill throw a few extra washers or screws in a bag when I need to buy some that I don't have in my stockpile.
the cops around here have been blasting shoplifters on twitter, meanwhile, we have poos raping uni girls that never gets reported.
Rendered the entire state of Wisconsin un-goddamned-employable, and now migrants transplants from that shithole come here to get employed while whining about not being able to buy fireworks or booze one damn day of the week
>bought 2 potted plants, a pair of gloves and a 2 meter flat bar >cashier didn't notice the flat bar laying on the bottom of the cart >it even had the bright white barcode facing up
whats morally wrong is them selling dogshit steel imported from china
frick em
>whats morally wrong is them selling dogshit steel imported from china
"no one ever talked about politics in the 90s, it was great!" - boomers, gen Xers
Home Depot isn't the only store on Earth. If you live in an area where there are no lumber yards and hardware stores, then your area already made their bed and are welcome to lie in it. They chose convenience over everything else.
>Home Depot isn't the only store on Earth.
If Home Depot closes due to too much crime, what makes you think any of the others will fare any better? >If you live in an area where there are no lumber yards and hardware stores, then your area already made their bed and are welcome to lie in it.
That's my point. If all you do is steal, don't be surprised you end up not having anyone to even steal from anymore. All that's left is dirt, because they will have stolen the trees too. And without trees it's only a matter of time before all the dirt washes into the ocean and you have nothing.
Sure, but wiring, hardware, appliances, finished floors, etc. are kind of important for quality of life.
I don't mind living in a nicely finished daub house, I just don't want to live in a society that has no manufactured goods at all.
>massive multi-national middlemen corporations bleeding everyone dry while themselves contributing nothing of value: the only way for society can conceivably function!
>timber or stone or brick
Who's going to make the tools and fire the bricks? >before corporate retail stores were invented
Why do you leftoids think small independent businesses are somehow immune from theft?
>Who's going to make the tools and fire the bricks?
you think Home Depot makes tools and fires bricks?
lol
lmao >immune from theft
immune from theft, no.
just not a morally and ethically justifiable target for theft and damage like their hostile corporate parasite competition is.
>you think Home Depot makes tools and fires bricks?
No, I never said that. But if tool and brick makers get all their inventory stolen they'll move to a safer area and you won't be able to either buy steal any more tools or bricks. >just not a morally and ethically justifiable target for theft and damage like their hostile corporate parasite competition is
Do you seriously think thieves will only ever steal from Home Depot? When all the "corporate parasites" are inevitably gone the justification will just shift to "white parasites", and then you're literally stuck in the mud.
>Do you seriously think thieves will only ever steal from Home Depot?
these degens are just making excuses for their behavior. It isn't a revolutionary act of political and cultural rebellion--- they're just a dumb monkey who wants something and steals it.
They'll steal whatever they want from somewhere or someone else too. And I'm sure they'll make excuses about how that was justified too.
This type of "it's never my fault" reasoning is common amongst criminals and sociopaths.
try again. i have only ever stolen and will only ever steal from massive multi-national parasites. i go out of my way to pay higher prices at my genuinely local businesses for goods that are available there.
your type doesn't understand value in community or society, so i understand how you would have trouble grasping any kind of morality that has not been handed to you by walmart training material.
>you think Home Depot makes tools and fires bricks?
No, I never said that. But if tool and brick makers get all their inventory stolen they'll move to a safer area and you won't be able to either buy steal any more tools or bricks. >just not a morally and ethically justifiable target for theft and damage like their hostile corporate parasite competition is
Do you seriously think thieves will only ever steal from Home Depot? When all the "corporate parasites" are inevitably gone the justification will just shift to "white parasites", and then you're literally stuck in the mud.
12 months ago
Anonymous
I think you're drawing a lot of assumptions here. Try to steal 500bf of black walnut from a lumber mill vs stealing bolts and pipe fittings from Lowe's or Home Depot. I steal from big retail stores because it's easy and they don't care enough to stop it.
I've also shown up in the middle of the night a few times to cut open the banding on the lumber hacks, concrete, and mulch they store outside, but I didn't take anything so the police wouldn't care when they got called.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>I've also shown up in the middle of the night a few times to cut open the banding on the lumber hacks, concrete, and mulch they store outside, but I didn't take anything so the police wouldn't care when they got called.
why did you cut it open if you weren't going to take anything?
12 months ago
Anonymous
Cus frick em.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Every now and then I find myself POSESSED by the all too human need to have a pretty good time
Theoretically if you are buying bags of concrete you can just put tools beneath the bags on the cart and the workers will never know because they're not going to lift a fricken bag of concrete to check beneath it. It's technically not even your fault if this happens.
there are as many lumber yards as big box stores near me, they even have a bigger selection with competitive to better prices, I think I'll manage just fine, homosexual
>Bernard "Bernie" Marcus (born May 12, 1929) is an American billionaire businessman. He co-founded The Home Depot and was the company's first CEO and chairman until retiring in 2002. >Bernard Marcus was born to Russian israeli immigrant parents in Newark, New Jersey.
B) they charge 35 dollars for the same pair of welding gloves that cost 8 at princess auto
C) the flooring department are sheisty commission based greaseball who lie about the square footage of your home and charge you for measuring it if you don't go with them also have hidden surcharges for stuff like their team working after hours or having to go up and down stairs
>they charge 35 dollars for the same pair of welding gloves that cost 8 at princess auto
How much does princess auto charge for a 4×8 sheet of 3/4" treated plywood, or a Bosch tablesaw, or a bag of peat moss, or a box of floor tile or a prehung fiberglass entry door?
If it fits in your pocket it's basically free. Otherwise you have to pay for it
T. White man
Just walk out the door with it. Also rape a white women when you can. And deal some drugs
T. Black or mexican
Someone raised in a world that no longer exists because it was bought and carved up by faceless multinational corporations while they stood by spouting folksy moralism.
i don't know about anymore, but advance autoparts used to just let you open a 500 dollar line of credit in the store with no information and you could just not pay it back and nothing would happen if your phone number was fake
Yes, you are not stealing from "the man".
"The man" will just pass that cost on customers, or close down the shop once it's no longer profitable.
As far as Krystal here, be thankful someone is willing to hire mentally challenged.
That would be terrible if home depot closed down and the actual independent trade stores could exist again
Yeah, we have one of those in town. They charge a ton for anything, so I'll go 20 miles to the closest HD unless I really can't wait or only want to interact with whites.
Anon, small hardware stores died because they had 1/10 of selection, for 2x the price and manned by an old senile grumpy frick.
>t. Small towner
We do still have a grump frick auto and grumpy frick lumber.
The lumber guy is based, 3/4 the HD price, cuts to size, has quick loaders. Doing quite well.
Car part one just doesn't have shit in stock and wants to charge you for shipping it to him, might as well use amazon. No idea how he's still profitable.
>Car part one just doesn't have shit in stock and wants to charge you for shipping it to him, might as well use amazon. No idea how he's still profitable.
maybe if 4/5 of north americans werent israeliteed out of a decent job, then we could afford to purchase from a local buisnessman.
Good local businessmen prosper under the footprint of nearby chain stores which serve to draw traffic by their smaller businesses. Winning on customer service is easy.
Want customers? Serve the customer in ways they reward with their custom.
Exactly correct, smart hardware stores that have a big box move in across the street reap a huge increase in business from increased traffic and by beating the box store by offering what they can't/won't provide. Better service is one area that's easy to beat them on, attention to localized needs and seasonal weather/buying habits, economic trends, etc. is another.
Home Depot is objectively superior though.
Their return policies were horrible.
No refunds
Really. I don't think I've gotten any shit from them as long as you have the receipt or the card that was used. Try not scuffing them all up with return scams.
What makes you think they will have an easier time to stay profitable when people steal from them? Do you realise that what you are asking is for hard working people to put their entire life savings into inventory, only to leave them out for anyone to just come and take?
I like the idea of smaller, more community-oriented businesses, but independent shops don't have anything to fall back on when they get robbed dry. Big box stores on the other hand can open and close branches in different locations as demographics change.
That will never happen. They will be replaced by some Amazon based monstrosity.
>home depot closes down
>lowes inherits the earth
What if I'm a misanthropist?
Yeah weep for the israelite owned company that gained 50 billion in market share while the memeflu shutdowns were mandated for everyone except them.
Non DIYer detected
local battery refurb shop just shut down along with many other small time buisnesses in my up and coming neighborhood
Gentrified neighborhoods either have chain businesses including "upscale" ones like Whole Foods or are infested with boutique stores that have a 300% markup, there is no in-between. You did this.
Home Depot promotes people internally. That's worth something.
>"The man" will just pass that cost on customers
and i'll just keep stealing. round and round we go
I still would.
*ekhm*
not my problem
How would they even pass that cost down to customers?
>big boxstote is just waiting to incur a cost before passing it down instead of just passing down every cost and more preemptively
>pass the cost onto customers
Who instead shop at places that they don't steal from.
No better way to announce your baked-in poorgay moron mentality than to characterize common theft and its repercussions towards its victims as an altruistic act of social responsibility so you can root for the criminal team with a clear conscience.
Who did anything of the sort? I simply invalidated your moronic claim that those shoplifters are hurting the customer. They are not, on your way rabbi.
>moronic claim
Says the guy whose premise is that Home Depot customers...don"t shop at Home Depot.
If they raise their prices enough, they won't. Lern2economics
LMAO, companies vilified by your ilk just GTFO long before it comes to that, and then you cry some more about how not wanting to be victimized incessantly by brazen thieves while antisocial fricktards clap like seals and egg them on is "greedy".
You seem like you have some weird chip in your shoulder unrelated to the topic at hand. Have you considered therapy or a gf?
>"The man" will just pass that cost on customers
Good. Home depot customers are moronic pieces of shit. They deserve it.
>t. worked there
if they could charge more for the item, they already would. they would lose money by arbitrarily increasing prices to compensate for theft. they just have to eat the costs. that's why companies astroturf so hard by telling people the theft will increase the prices they pay; they want to prevent the theft.
I used to but after COVID I saw how little profit margins places like grocery stores and shit were making and I didn't steal anymore.
I would never shoplift from an independently ran store.
You know that home depot makes less profits and that's how they're around, right anon? Lowes has even better prices most of the time. Frick driving 40 minutes everywhere to potentially save a few dollars, or in reality pay more time and money and annoyed it's not in stock. I've tried independence stores and they have the same stock from ACE in the 90s at 90s prices or 300% for some reason, and it's missing a key component.
Home Depot is a good company. Lowes is not
There are no good companies.
home depot accused me trying to return stolen goods while I had a fricking receipt. all because they couldn't find it in "the system". frick them.
But anon, haven't you heard? You have no choice but to shop there if they charge less for an item than any other local store or online retailer; price is the ONLY factor that guides where you shop.
>5 cents have been deposited into your The Home Depot: You Can Do It, We Can Help!(tm) Checking account.
>Good boy!
>Home Depot is a good company
what?
My mom worked part time at Lowes from 2018-2020 and she couldnt believe how much stuff blacks and mostly mexicans would steal (this was in chicago). They would either walk right out with stuff they didnt pay for, or bring back equipment two weeks later after it had been clearly used on a job site saying it didnt work. Sometimes they would find items returned where the box itself was new but the item inside was a broken version they swapped out with the new one.
Eventually she quit because loss prevention kept penalizing her for calling out theives walking out without paying.
>Eventually she quit because loss prevention kept penalizing her for calling out theives walking out without paying.
It was in Chicago; they didn't want her calling out thieves because she was risking the store being ransacked by a flash mob and her being shot.
Policy is to never accuse someone of theft, even if they are openly stealing something.
home depot profited $17,100,000,000 in 2022.
I worked at a home depot and overheard the manager talking about how much shrink (theft) occurred in the last year. Was over 200K and all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal.
>all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal
that's not how it works
The intrinsic cost of that slave labour garbage is like 1/10 of the retail price. When the company pays for it because their garbage was destroyed or stolen, it's a rounding error. I imported shit from China myself once, paid 20$ a piece for a machine, the retail price of the same device from a local company was 220$, same quality.
>Intrinsic cost
There is no "intrinsic" cost to anything, did you perhaps mean the "cost of goods sold"?
>There is no "intrinsic" cost to anything, did you perhaps mean the "cost of goods sold"?
The cost of labour and materials to make the product. It costs 1$ to make it by slaves in china, it's sold for 20$ to fat 1st world people.
If you have to write off the stolen Chinese trash, to you as a business it costs 1$ not the retail price of 20$.
High, retail manager anon here. Shrinked goods are totalled by retail price, not what we bought them for.
What youre forgetting, is that the markup accounts for everything between the point at which we bought it, to the point at which its on the shelf.
Yes, we bought it for 1$ from china. We then spent 19$ transporting it, storing it, and eventually stocking it.
you work at a charity store?
So a shipping container is 1000$ from China to a port, then you throw that onto a train and then truck. Is that 19$, I highly doubt it.
The retail price is probably close to wholesale where the goods are branded and not directly imported.
>Was over 200K and all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal.
Writing something off pretty much literally means you lost money/value.
the meme amongst lefty redditards is that these corporate owned stores have some kind of magical insurance that pays out every time someone robs them or steals from them, so it's morally and socially just fine
Not only that, when any real world insurance does cover some of their losses but the cost goes up, or they have to pay 100% out of pocket or just recoup deductibles and other related costs through the only source of income a functional business has- sales revenues- those same thieving dirt as get to crank up the moral indignation about how "greedy" those corporations are, even though greed is a human trait and "corporations aren't people".
Then when the crime victims say frick it, we're shutting down operations in your lawless "progressive" shithole so you can't keep encouraging and defending this, the moralizing over how this "heartless" action harms the "community" (and especially people of color) goes into levels of decietful moral posturing that would make a disgraced televangelist blush.
the "meme" is actually that the loss from theft is built in to the business plan, so that prices are higher to begin with to cover the loss they predict to come from theft.
so if you don't want to hurt a poor billionaire's feelings, just steal early in the financial quarter so that your theft is most likely one of the first and is part of the quantity of thefts predicted and covered by price hikes
Many stores actually adjust prices from location to location for this reason.
Hop on an auto parts website belonging to a big chain, AutoZone, O'Reilly's, that shit.
Look for an item, there's no price, gotta put in your zip code and select a store.
Pick a store close to you, then try a store in the warzone, the one nearest to the streets you're frightened of.
Prices vary from region to region sure, but why do they vary by over 10% when they're only 10 minutes away from each other?
Tyrone and his boys are reason #1.
yes, but the initial price in both regions is a reflection of a predictive insurance algorithm using last quarter/year's data, which is of course different per area. the point is that the earlier you steal, the more likely your theft was already covered by initial price hikes set at the beginning of the year/quarter and thus the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.
this is also assuming there will be more theft than their model predicts, since in any other case you can steal at any time and it will be covered by their initial price-setting.
tl;dr it literally isn't a loss for the company, depending on if your theft fell within their predictions
>>>thus the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.
>be me, save up 10K to cover for unexpected expenses/emergencies
>engine blows in my car and costs me 10K to fix
>actually it's free because I accounted for something like this happening
It's like troll physics, but for finances.
>"save up"
>by raising prices without any other justification like inflation, only a predictive model that some fresh accounting grad made in python
it was free/unjustified money to begin with, especially if the predictions over-estimate the number of thefts
you are insane if you don't think the cost of the loss prevention team's work isn't built into all of this price raising. there is never any point at which they will willingly allow anything to take from net profit
>raise prices without producing more value to consumer
now THIS is troll physics
>you are insane if you don't think the cost of the loss prevention team's work isn't built into all of this price raising.
You mean the retail price that isn't generated when the merchandise is stolen and doesn't sell?
>there is never any point at which they will willingly allow anything to take from net profit
So your contention is that they should "willingly allow" thieves to steal the merchandise?
Let me guess, you think offering merchandise that people are free to not buy is "greedy" because the price generates a profit, but stealing that merchandise is morally justified and not "greedy".
no, my contention is always and has always been this:
>raise prices without producing more value to consumer
loss prevention isn't even inherently a bad thing, but i don't trust corporate MBAs (and you are helpless if you do) to not abuse their ability to set prices. kroger did this recently with the scapegoat of "inflation" (which was in truth a negligible percent of the cost increase) and as a result i no longer have faith that price raises in other consumer goods have legitimate reasoning. we can suppose all day that a pair of pliers is now $23 instead of $16 due to overseas shipping increases, loss prevention increases, etc., but more than likely a large part of that increase is attempting to sneak profit in when other costs can be blamed. and you won't always be given a breakdown of those increases (if ever)
you can no longer trust that price increases have reasons legitimate to a consumer, so the "trust in the system" of loss prevention, supply/demand, etc. is gone.
this is why it won't matter if jamal steals those pliers, because i'm going to be paying $30 for them next year either way. either loss prevention/shipping/etc. is going to truly require such an increase, or the pricing department will find a scapegoat to justify it. corporations have long been happy to abuse trust, so the lesson seems to be you're a fool to not abuse the system yourself in any way possible.
Who the frick are you to say what profit margin is "legitimate"?
the consumer, who decides with his dollar (or theft). these babies don't get to do whatever they want without consequence like it's a game lmao
>kroger did this recently with the scapegoat of "inflation" (which was in truth a negligible percent of the cost increase) and as a result i no longer have faith that price raises in other consumer goods have legitimate reasoning.
sooo what exactly did kroger do? i didnt see anything on it except some youtube video with some guy making 'soi boi' face
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/retail-profiteering-lowes-amazon-target-accountable/
they raised prices in markets with inelastic demand (i.e. goods needed to live) at a time of economic downturn, blaming inflation while the true reason was to increase profits. inflation had barely touched their bottom line, they just wanted more gibmedats
Hi, this is called "the price that the market will bear" and the concept in a free market economy is that hopefully if their price is set too high, then someone else will undercut them in order to profit even more.
Kroger's brand identity is that of an "avocado store"; they're not a lowest possible price grocery store for poor people. If that's what you're looking for, then give Aldi's, Save-a-Lot, or maybe Walmart a try.
If you have mormons around, then try out one of their nonprofit co-op grocery stores.
>at a time of economic downturn
also, while it was an economic downturn, it has also been a time where the poorer demographics in the country had an unprecedented amount of spending money from all those funemployment covid checks. It turns out that printing out money and giving it to poor people winds up with you seeing huge price increases on all kinds of goods and services.
>It turns out that printing out money and giving it to poor people winds up with you seeing huge price increases on all kinds of goods and services.
wasnt massively more 'printed money' transfered to wealthy corporations?
Don’t forget all the gov’t agencies and schools that got shit tons of money for sitting at home and hanging $7,000 pieces of plexiglass that probably cost $40 for a regular consumer.
sure, but look at fast food places and doordash etc revenues once the pandemic checks started going around. Not only did big companies get fat checks, but nearly 100% of the money given to poor and average people "trickled up" to these kinds of companies too.
What I'm getting at is that these companies didn't exactly just raise prices for no reason "when people could afford it the least".... Their business model changed to getting more money for 'premium' products at premium prices from customers who can afford it.
Kroger used to be a more low-end or average grocery store whose main business was catered to average joes. Now they're a semi-premium grocery store with ridiculous prices catering to middle class people who have money to blow. The middle class has gotten smaller, so it's not a surprise that their prices have increased in order to cope with falling sales. (basic foods are usually considered to be a commodity with inelastic demand, but it's not true in a categorical way; these stores have shifted their target demographic)
if they want to increase prices and lose 50% of their customer base, that's fine by me. it's being a lying Black person and pretending it had anything to do with inflation that's disgusting. if they had just raised prices without lying, people would largely be happy to abandon them like the "premium" grocery store they are. but that lie about inflation tricked some non-negligible amount of people into believing that they were getting the lowest prices the market would bear.
microecon-101 is all fine and well (in a world with infinite resources that can support infinite growth but we won't touch that for now) but when you use israelitery to manipulate the "price the market will bear", you've stepped outside the cute little freshman model into unadulterated criminal fraud
supply and demand will always exist. if kroger markups are too high you can shop somewhere else
also the price increases are on all products my man, not just the 1% that got stolen and thus didn't sell. they still get the associated profit, this isn't a calculation you do per item
prices without producing more value to consumer
But they do produce more value to the consumer with all the free stuff they provide the community with.
>the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.
It's very simple: had the theft not occurred, would they have made *more* money?
Of course they would have.
The theft cost them that revenue, on top of the cost incurred in trying to anticipate theft and not lose any more money than they do, via paying the extra cost of insurance premiums and loss prevention procedures and personnel.
lefties aren't interested in having an intellectually honest conversation about this kind of stuff; if we're honest about crime policies and statistics then we'll quickly arrive at a solution of systematically exterminating a certain demographic group in their voter base.
I was under the impression that when something of XX amount is stolen or damaged, they can minus that XX amount from the taxes they have to pay the government at the end of the year.
Not the full retail amount. Also doesn't cover the associated costs of ordering, receiving, stocking, inventory-ing, and all the other costs related to having a product on the shelf for some entitled fricktard to steal.
You know, all the costs that are built into the retail markup that entitled fricktards point to as justification for being theives.
Insurance doesn't pay out at retail either, so even when a claim is covered the business loses money over what they would have made had the retail sale been possible.
yup. frick home depot. lets run them out of buisness and maybe the next guy to set up shop will be willing to use his dog and gun to protect his profit margin
The funny thing is that insurance pretty much the perfect communist society. It's literally "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". Everyone chips in a little as a premium so that if one business gets fricked it doesn't have to bear the whole burden.
Of course apparently neither Marx nor any of the modern leftists are capable of thinking one step further, what if everyone gets fricked at the same time?
Ok but the problem is that all insurance absolutely fricking sucks donkey dick.
The economic model of handing people money and expecting them to pinky swear no backsies hand it back when you need it is broken and stupid and people are constantly getting fricked by it.
Everybody and society in general would be better off if they just saved the money they would have spent on insurance.
Really big companies don't pay for insurance for everything. They 'self insure' which just means they expect to have the cash to pay it because they know insurance is a scam.
Last time I heard, our actual insurance agency insurance didn't kick in until like 25 million dollars of damage.
it's called shrink because that's what it dies to their profits
>be corpo
>make $100
>technically owe the tax man $35
>spend $100 on merchandise
>$100 becomes cost and thus not taxed
>owe the tax man $0
>jogger steals merchandise
>write down you lost the $100 worth of merchandise so the account matches reality
>$100 magically reappears from the ethereal realm of magic and angels, floats down from the sky and into your wallet
Leftoids, everyone.
>i wrote a check
>therefore i didn't spend any money
Jfc. Is that you Krystal? Frickin moron
as far as giant chains go they're pretty based, so I'd say yes
It's a grey area like all ethics. Following the NAP, yes since all theft is an act of aggression. To anti globalist no since major chain stores allow for community destruction by turning places into econ zones. To utilitarian yes since these large stores are both convenient resupple points and cheaper due to macro economics. Most religions say yes bar any stipulations like the owner being the wrong religion or heretical. Ask yourself what ethical philosophy do you subscribe to and what outcomes you wish to see for yourself, those around you, and humans as a whole.
Wrong
Prince didn't die, he's living as his sister now
Who's Prince
The artist formerly known as Prince
Currently. He legally got his name back.
Small fittings or loose hardware that's normally in packs? Go for it, they won't repack them, just trash them. Putting couplers on the ends of all your pvc and sneaking them in plain sight past cashiers? They train them for that so if you succeed, it's arguably on them.
HD were charging 5.47 for an end-cap.
Another manufacturer here in the US also sells to commercial plumbers and have prices on line. 22 fricking cents.
Nope, the HD ones are made in China.
They’re too stupid to be in business.
What's your point, besides displaying that you don't know frick all about how merchandising works?
Funny thing is that you have no fricking idea what that part actually costs, and simply assume that the lower price is what it "should" cost because that confirms your irrational bias.
In fact that price might be below cost and that kind of pricing model may be specifically intended to injure competitors trying to just break even and is also used to strongarm suppliers into untenable wholesale discounts just to maintain that high volume account.
More importantly though, retail customers who want to grab one while on a trip to HD rather than hunt for a wholesaler who may or may not even sell to them are willing to pay what it costs to grab one off a shelf and consider it money well spent.
Boo hoo.
Small stores are useful for small purchases if you dont want to drive. Driving costs gas, car tear and wear and time which is also worth money. The math says the small local expensive store is sometimes better.
I paid for 8 bags of dirt and took 9 once because I realised one I put in my car was torn and I didn't feel like taking it out so I just took another that wasn't torn.
Why stop there? why not 10
>shoplifting
is
>morally wrong
Very simple.
Not if they make me do self checkout.
Yep. Any place that wants me to ring up and bag my shit then I'll be using my 'employee discount' and walk out the door with a full cart of free shit.
isn't it kinda well known that big box stores have terrible prices on actual building materials? like wood and metal stock? everyone always says to buy from shops that are dedicated to those materials because HD/lowes rip you off on low quality materials.
everyone's saying the margins are low but i don't understand how massive chains can't undercut local suppliers in those markets.
The short answer is volume combined with strategic pricing/advertisement.
Those big stores purchase in bulk (i.e., cheaper) and spread it across all the chain stores.
Then they use loss leaders to bait you into buying the marked up items. Now multiply this across all the stores across the nation/market.
A small family owned store just simply can't compete with that combo
>A small family owned store just simply can't compete with that combo
Completely wrong and my favorite local hardware store, Wally's in Sumter, SC is proof. Wally many years ago welcomed a Walmart behind him and a Lowes across the street when interviewed by the town paper. He knew they would bring thousands of cars right past his front door and he was right. I've shopped there since 1985.
His small store sells quality service. He has more staff on the floor than the Lowes and they greet each customer. His parking lot is full and he stocks based on actual knowledge and experience (like parts to repair mobile homes which are not the same dimensions as many items designed for conventional houses). His bolt and nut room is where every mechanic goes for hardware.
He retired but the store is still run the same way with the same staff.
Old small stores were greedy c**ts with very limited stock and ripoff prices. They needed to die so they did.
Hey, have you ever tried the chili dogs at Murray's Donuts on Bultman? They're pretty great and they were only like $1.50 the last time I went
I've never wanted to visit a place just to see a hardware store, but this sounds very nice.
What would you need to shoplift that you can't just get from peoples houses and gardens?
Unless you want it to be like your liquor store where you order from behind two inches of bulletproof glass, pay for your shit tyrone
Stealing at all is morally wrong. Do you want to live in a community full of thieves? Full of people with no self control or respect?
It's precisely BECAUSE I have self-control and respect that I steal from big box stores, anon
>Do you want to live in a community full of thieves?
no
>Full of people with no self control or respect?
no. wat do?
This. Frick thieves. Fry em. Boil em. Put em in a stew.
No but I also don't want to live in a community with Home Depot
There are plenty of places in the country that don't have one. Go there and enjoy your romanticized trash town
>Do you want to live in a community full of thieves?
i already do. home depot, lowes, all the major big box retailers... all steal from our communities. they roll in, cut their prices and operate at a loss in the region until they put honest businesses out of business, then jack the prices back up higher to make everyone hurt now that there are no alternatives. they siphon all the money from our local economies into their corporate accounts and then offshore to their tax havens so they don't even have to contribute on a national level. they use this money to buy politicians to cut their tax liability even into the negative to suck money from our governments and push for more social support programs for their impoverished workers... forcing states to essentially partially pay their workers' wages.
they're setting the tone here, not me. thieving things from thieves, no ethical quandry here.
>no ethical quandry here.
Get off reddit, go outside and touch grass, then take a long look at yourself and stop being such a degenerate.
you deny that these massive corporations do these (extremely well-documented) things intentionally to siphon the maximum amount of money out of communities? why do you hate american business so much? we don't need your gross global homogeneity.
When you steal things, prices go up for the white people in your community. Your own peoples behavior and lack of moral values is the reason why your community is a disgusting shithole.
Hopefully, one day we can put you all on a boat and ship you right back to where you came from.
prices go up for everyone anyway, don't pretend there's a direct correlation. you voted with your wallet and shut down all their competition and offered them total control over your local economy. they'll use that control now, they'll raise prices forever and bleed you for everything you have, they don't need an excuse. it's their entire purpose for existing.
You're speaking as though it is a given that smaller businesses enjoy making less money and sell their products for lower prices (or at least that HD/Lowes charge higher prices than the small businesses would have if they still existed)
I don't agree with that idea, and I doubt you can point to data that shows it.
You can keep making excuses for your degeneracy, but at the end of the day there are plenty of people who can look themselves in the mirror with self respect, and then there's you--- a hateful, greedy, misanthrope who knows damn well that you have no moral values or value to the greater human community. You're less than a person.
>You're less than a person.
wow, rich coming from the guy eager for massive non-human corporate entities to destroy his country's way of life and strip the world of any value
sure, sure, the guy who wants thriving local economies of people who respect each other is the greedy misanthrope, not the soul suckers in an office meeting room plotting how to best exploit your loved ones most brutally.
You're trying to cook up a whole lot of strawman there, but you're really missing the mark.
Everyone faces adversity in life. We're surrounded by social and economic circumstances that suck. While you can't control the way that you found the world, you can try to control your own actions and responses to it. Some people in your community are honest, hardworking people who do the best they can to take care of their families. And then there's you--- the shitbag criminal degenerate who steals from others and then doesn't even have enough of a spine and take responsibility for his own actions.
>other people MADE me steal!
You're disgusting. And so is the culture which normalizes and encourages your degeneracy. You're sick and your culture is a disease.
furthermore, when you try to use whataboutism to justify your crimes, its an insult to all the people out there who work hard and honestly to get by.
Be real: did you NEED to steal in order to survive? Or did you just do it for more decadent consoomer experiences? Because it seemed easier than becoming more skilled, harder working, or more clever?
Other people face harder circumstances than you ever have in your life, and yet most of them don't start stealing and becoming parasites in their own communities.
It's because they're better than you. Morally, socially, and in terms of absolute human worth.
You are worthless human garbage.
>the shitbag criminal degenerate who steals from others
no. home depot is not a person, you fricking idiot. companies are not people. brands are not your friends, you do not have a "relationship" with an orange square and a special font. home depot is not a part of my community on any level, from local to national.
>doesn't even have enough of a spine and take responsibility for his own actions
i know exactly what my actions are and i came here to state them clearly: i do this, and it is 100% justifiable. do you have reading issues?
>your culture is a disease
again, wow, from the guy who supports the decidedly non-human entity that consumes and destroys human lives as one of its primary functions, and thinks they make good community members. lmao
>Because it seemed easier
no. because it's right to steal from the thieves that killed all the local businesses, is gutting the economy to suck its last vestiges of life out of it, and bought the politicians to ensure nobody stops them.
>and yet most of them don't start stealing and becoming parasites in their own communities
parasites? lmao. try immune response. again, home depot is not my "community", nor is it yours. they have tricked you very very well i see. distorted your view of what a person is and who a friend is. now you think a color and a font is a friend in your community, and that their corporate pillaging of your home is just and fair.
you're a great asset to them, defending them and their economic piracy for completely free. all they had to do was manipulate your weak-ass social instincts to make you want to defend their global multi-national corporation as a member of your personal tribe. fricking pathetic. literal monkeys know better.
>it's not a person!
Corporations are made of people, numbnuts. It's a social and paperwork construct. You keep saying that "they" aren't people, but you also say that "they" steal and that "they" have tricked me. How could they steal if they don't exist?
I hope that you starve to death.
You're a bad person. You steal from other people, and you blame others for your actions. You make excuses for why you have no values, because you're not enough of a man. You're harmful to the other people around you, and you don't belong in our society.
Are you white?
>Corporations are made of people, numbnuts.
that doesn't make a corporation a person any more than a brick is a house. and how many home depot corporate officers and board members are you friends with in your local community? you think the rank and file employees in your local home depot are home depot itself? that if instead there were a bunch of local hardware and home improvement stores, that those people would not simply be working there instead of home depot? the corporation is the system of rules it operates under. those rules are designed for maximum exploitation and manipulation of vulnerable idiots like you. you're food to them and you love it.
>You're a bad person
even if this were true, i'd rather be a person than whatever home depot apparently turned you into.
>You steal from other people
not people. non-human parasitic cancers
>You make excuses
i justify my actions
>for why you have no values
based on my contempt for parasitic exploitative entities
>because you're not enough of a man
says the guy gleefully tearing down the idea of local community, economy, family- all in the name of your globohomosexual corporate-owned world fetishism that an orange square and a million-dollar font file tricked you into
>You're harmful to the other people around you
only because you consider abstract organizational entities with profit-over-all mandates as 'people' for some reason
>and you don't belong in our society
here we go. sure, i agree with this. because in 'your' society, you are a pathetic slave to billion dollar non-human masters that you feed your friends and families to because you have some corporate propaganda whispering in your ear that they deserve it
>Are you white?
lmao. sure am bud. let me guess, being "properly white" means letting the global billionaires come in and put their heel to your neck and thanking them for their time like a good boy. you're fricking pathetic. you've sold out your community, your family, your friends, and your dignity.
By the power vested in me by the universe, I hereby formally revoke your status as a white person.
You're not a man, you're less than a human being, and you don't belong in our nation.
No amount of lies or excuses is going to wash away the fact that you have to hide what you are to your family and friends.
You know that if they found out that you were a filthy thief, then they wouldn't trust you to be in their homes or around their families.
You're garbage. Literal trash with arms, legs and a mouth. Absolutely disgusting.
>By the power vested in me by the universe
you have to be a human being to assert your will on the universe bud. you're no longer one. a self-checkout machine might as well be asserting me to be a person of poor character for all i care. humans live in healthy societies. you want to destroy yours, and worse, you want to destroy everyone else's. you're a cancer that will end the rest of us who have souls.
>that you have to hide
the frick i do. they're on board. you have this image of a person who is stealing from these entities and is ashamed of it. i'm not. i'm proud of it. i'm doing what's right, and you're aiding the enemy. absolutely pathetic. are your parents this servile? where did you learn it?
>Absolutely disgusting
i am actually thoroughly pleased that a corporate propagandist and anti-social turncoat of an NPC thinks this of me. please express more outrage at my actions that offend your owners.
This post is based. Frick corporate leeches.
>put honest businesses out of business
my local hardware store sells the chinkiest chinkshit brands at 2x the price of an equivalent normal brand part/tool from lowes or home depot
they're basically a convenience store that sells hardware, the way their business model just has 1.5x prices across the board for no reason
it didn't used to be like this.
small businesses now have two choices:
- be scummy corner-cutting fricks
- go out of business because massive big-box retailers send the bar lower every year
the only way we heal is to eliminate the big-box homosexuals
when people can begin selecting for quality again, they will.
>it didn't used to be like this.
Fricking please, it's always been like this and the "mom and pop" stores refusal to actually cater to people's needs when they dominated smaller markets and thoughtvthey could make the rules and tell anyonecwho didntvlikevit to frick off because there was no easy alternative is a huge factor in why box stores are everywhere now; people got sick of their attitude.
That applies not only to sales but on the employment side as well; for all of the negatives associated with working for a corporate box store, smaller privately held and/or family businesses are often VASTLY worse, with zero room for advancement, no chance of profit sharing or discounted stock ownership, and no recourse whatsoever when they make some entirely self serving decision for the benefit of the owners that ratfricks the people who work there.
People who romanticize "Mom and Pop" are completely divorced from reality; Mom is quite often an ignoramus who has no clue about the products she sells, Pop backs her up in any dispute because "family comes first" even when the customer is actually right, and if you work for them they will hire a criminal uncle or drug addict son to replace you just to save money, and think nothing of it.
>phonegay's fat thumbs rage through another tism fit
>incel with nothing of value to add struts and preens over pointless "gotcha"
>is a huge factor in why box stores are everywhere now
the single largest factor, by an order of magnitude, that contributed to the demise of local business and the rise of big box stores is the undercutting that a larger organization can perform in specific under-performing locales by buffering it from normally- or over-performing locales
so as long as competition in a locale exists, they price themselves continuously 10% lower than any local options. once the competition is gone, they raise the prices back up to "normal" levels above what you were even paying before at the local stores, and continue to a new location.
this applies to employment as well. they offer good pay and bennies when they come in, then once there's no other option in their industry, bam, minimum wage and no bennies and go frick yourself employee, here are some welfare sign-up sheets to allow us to offset the cost of your employment via the local and state governments (which you also pay for in your taxes lmao)
You can keep posting this fantasy cope as many times as you like, facts anyone can observe show it to be utter bullcrap
> where a box store moves into an area with established hardware/ home improvement stores, the good ones that don't act like buttholes not only survive, they prosper
> where there is simply no other hardware/home improvement option than a box store, it's because a box store moved into an under- or un-served market area, not because they drove every other store out of business that was thriving until they came
> both customers and employees can vote with their feet, which is why your "evil box store having an unbreakable stranglehold on a town's qualified labor and customer base and thats what they ALL do!!!" fever dream is laughable moron cringe.
Speaking of which, you have to be at least 13 to post here.
right, so you're claiming that anti-competitive regional undercutting doesn't happen? lol
>not only survive, they prosper
item A costs $100 from the manufacturer. local stores charge $110 for it. big boxes move in, charge $80 for it, taking a loss to pull people in to the store for the sale instead of the competition. once the competition is gone, it costs $160 at the big box. this happens continuously. walmart, home depot, best buy, target, you name it. i've seen it happen and you have too, even if you don't like it.
>a box store moved into an under- or un-served market area
LMAO
>can vote with their feet
lmao. lol.
sure, until the local options are out of business because the big box undercuts them as much as necessary to pull people in before about-facing into a price hike. i'm sorry the truth hurts your feelings, but it's happened tens of thousands of times.
i know you really tie your identity to these massive global corporations but you need to realize that we all - yes you too! - live in reality, not fantasy MBA corpo-space. fricking loser MBA dickrider. they will not reward you for loyalty, paypig
LMAO, touched a nerve, eh?
There are no towns anywhere where WalMart and Home Depot are the ONLY options due to them driving every single other competitor out of business.
ZERO.
>LMAO, touched a nerve, eh?
you wish, corporate wienersucker
>ZERO.
source: your ass
go ahead and keep pretending predatory pricing doesn't exist. you'll keep being wrong. i don't understand why you people move to our countries and towns and want to destroy everything they stand for. why don't you just go back to whatever european shithole trained you to destroy local culture & economy? it's already the way you like it there.
>>ZERO.
>source: your ass
So name a town where there's no stores to shop or work for in their respective markets other than Home Depot and WalMart, that had those options before those companies moved there.
>go ahead and keep pretending predatory pricing doesn't exist.
Nobody ever said that you histrionic commie homosexual
>you people
LOFL, seethe harder at everyone who isnt a theif and/or an ecomonically illiterate juvenile fricktard...are "those people" in the basement with you right now?
i NEED WEBM OF HER
I bet you return the cart too, don't you sissy boy
that's just common courtesy
Semi-related, I used to work at Tractor Supply and pretty much every day I'd find something left in a buggy
>is it ok to steal?
No. STFU and GTFO Jamal.
PrepHole econ class is fun
As for Crystal, I’m 80% sure I would offer to buy her a one way flight to Liberia if I saw that hat. And offer to drive her to the airport. Business class on Spirit Airlines of course.
No. Everybody should. And, they write it off as shrinkage. Just don't steal huge things that make you look really stupid.
>hat
>America was never great
Is corporate aware of this and do they approve? If you then it's fine to steal from partisan corporations
are the prices when you buy shit online and have them shipped to you the same as the in-store price typically? that's the only place i can see them competing over smaller shops.
larger amount of sales with smaller margins have always been big box's game.
Cute enough. Would bang.
Wasting money is immoral.
Therefore it is your moral imperative to not pay for shit.
Kind of cute, would bang
they have those anti theft devices in almost every product here in Atlantic Canada and we don't even have that high a bigger ratio.we have more parents than bangladesh tho.
my fiance clips leaves from plants and propagates them at home and ill throw a few extra washers or screws in a bag when I need to buy some that I don't have in my stockpile.
the cops around here have been blasting shoplifters on twitter, meanwhile, we have poos raping uni girls that never gets reported.
obligatory
Stealing is for the melanin enriched. The white trash kludges shit together for free.
I don't know about Lowe's or home Depot, but it is always morally right to steal from Menards. Frick John Menard and that entire company.
Menards is based. What did the owners do that made you so mad?
Rendered the entire state of Wisconsin un-goddamned-employable, and now migrants transplants from that shithole come here to get employed while whining about not being able to buy fireworks or booze one damn day of the week
I don't understand how you can't find a job.
so you manifest everything with your subcouscience mind, through repedetive actions and thoughts,
if you steal
you are telling your subcounscience you are poor lol. you will continue to be poor
t hypnotist
>bought 2 potted plants, a pair of gloves and a 2 meter flat bar
>cashier didn't notice the flat bar laying on the bottom of the cart
>it even had the bright white barcode facing up
whats morally wrong is them selling dogshit steel imported from china
frick em
>whats morally wrong is them selling dogshit steel imported from china
"no one ever talked about politics in the 90s, it was great!" - boomers, gen Xers
waddle and daub would be better than cardboard
Sure, but wiring, hardware, appliances, finished floors, etc. are kind of important for quality of life.
I don't mind living in a nicely finished daub house, I just don't want to live in a society that has no manufactured goods at all.
>wiring, hardware, appliances, finished floors, etc. are kind of important for quality of life
If you had ever lived without them you would understand.
I have and regularly do. I'm sorry you struggle with living without machines and corporate products, anon.
It's all made in China shit anyway
Home Depot isn't the only store on Earth. If you live in an area where there are no lumber yards and hardware stores, then your area already made their bed and are welcome to lie in it. They chose convenience over everything else.
>Home Depot isn't the only store on Earth.
If Home Depot closes due to too much crime, what makes you think any of the others will fare any better?
>If you live in an area where there are no lumber yards and hardware stores, then your area already made their bed and are welcome to lie in it.
That's my point. If all you do is steal, don't be surprised you end up not having anyone to even steal from anymore. All that's left is dirt, because they will have stolen the trees too. And without trees it's only a matter of time before all the dirt washes into the ocean and you have nothing.
>massive multi-national middlemen corporations bleeding everyone dry while themselves contributing nothing of value: the only way for society can conceivably function!
I mean it's not like there's ever been a society that didn't work like that...
wew lmao
>American Education, brought to you by Walmart: "We've always been in charge!"
>didn't name one example
I accept your concession
>People didn't build with timber or stone or brick before corporate retail stores were invented
Luh mao
>timber or stone or brick
Who's going to make the tools and fire the bricks?
>before corporate retail stores were invented
Why do you leftoids think small independent businesses are somehow immune from theft?
>Who's going to make the tools and fire the bricks?
you think Home Depot makes tools and fires bricks?
lol
lmao
>immune from theft
immune from theft, no.
just not a morally and ethically justifiable target for theft and damage like their hostile corporate parasite competition is.
>you think Home Depot makes tools and fires bricks?
No, I never said that. But if tool and brick makers get all their inventory stolen they'll move to a safer area and you won't be able to either buy steal any more tools or bricks.
>just not a morally and ethically justifiable target for theft and damage like their hostile corporate parasite competition is
Do you seriously think thieves will only ever steal from Home Depot? When all the "corporate parasites" are inevitably gone the justification will just shift to "white parasites", and then you're literally stuck in the mud.
>Do you seriously think thieves will only ever steal from Home Depot?
these degens are just making excuses for their behavior. It isn't a revolutionary act of political and cultural rebellion--- they're just a dumb monkey who wants something and steals it.
They'll steal whatever they want from somewhere or someone else too. And I'm sure they'll make excuses about how that was justified too.
This type of "it's never my fault" reasoning is common amongst criminals and sociopaths.
try again. i have only ever stolen and will only ever steal from massive multi-national parasites. i go out of my way to pay higher prices at my genuinely local businesses for goods that are available there.
your type doesn't understand value in community or society, so i understand how you would have trouble grasping any kind of morality that has not been handed to you by walmart training material.
>Who's going to make the tools and fire the bricks?
Not home depot lol
>leftoids
Lmao
Show me where I said it was Home Depot.
Nobody is talking about stealing from local foundries, lumber mills, or other production facilities here, anon.
see
I think you're drawing a lot of assumptions here. Try to steal 500bf of black walnut from a lumber mill vs stealing bolts and pipe fittings from Lowe's or Home Depot. I steal from big retail stores because it's easy and they don't care enough to stop it.
I've also shown up in the middle of the night a few times to cut open the banding on the lumber hacks, concrete, and mulch they store outside, but I didn't take anything so the police wouldn't care when they got called.
>I've also shown up in the middle of the night a few times to cut open the banding on the lumber hacks, concrete, and mulch they store outside, but I didn't take anything so the police wouldn't care when they got called.
why did you cut it open if you weren't going to take anything?
Cus frick em.
Every now and then I find myself POSESSED by the all too human need to have a pretty good time
Job security for Wagey
Theoretically if you are buying bags of concrete you can just put tools beneath the bags on the cart and the workers will never know because they're not going to lift a fricken bag of concrete to check beneath it. It's technically not even your fault if this happens.
I exchanged a piece the longer shop vac hose didn't have in the box. What they get for shitty customer service.
Why wouldn't I steal from Home Depot? It's LITERALLY free
there are as many lumber yards as big box stores near me, they even have a bigger selection with competitive to better prices, I think I'll manage just fine, homosexual
ah traditional european architecture.
maud and daub.
half-timber/tudor houses are pretty aesthetic you know.
Stealing from home depot is okay because
A) it's owned by israelites
>Bernard "Bernie" Marcus (born May 12, 1929) is an American billionaire businessman. He co-founded The Home Depot and was the company's first CEO and chairman until retiring in 2002.
>Bernard Marcus was born to Russian israeli immigrant parents in Newark, New Jersey.
B) they charge 35 dollars for the same pair of welding gloves that cost 8 at princess auto
C) the flooring department are sheisty commission based greaseball who lie about the square footage of your home and charge you for measuring it if you don't go with them also have hidden surcharges for stuff like their team working after hours or having to go up and down stairs
>they charge 35 dollars for the same pair of welding gloves that cost 8 at princess auto
How much does princess auto charge for a 4×8 sheet of 3/4" treated plywood, or a Bosch tablesaw, or a bag of peat moss, or a box of floor tile or a prehung fiberglass entry door?
Build a big clay oven and you've got bricks.
not only is it not morally wrong, it's encouraged. frick em all. steal from those places until you're bored and do it with a smile.
If it fits in your pocket it's basically free. Otherwise you have to pay for it
T. White man
Just walk out the door with it. Also rape a white women when you can. And deal some drugs
T. Black or mexican
This one time I forgot my cart had a crate of beer on it. So I went back to the store and paid for it.
Home depot sells beer?
>stealing is ok
Who raised you?
Someone raised in a world that no longer exists because it was bought and carved up by faceless multinational corporations while they stood by spouting folksy moralism.
Single mothers
I haven't bought cinder blocks, snow melt or dirt in 10 years from home Depot but I always have a lot.
How do you theoretically steal cinder blocks?
They store that stuff outside unprotected and under little to no surveillance in the pitch black of night, anon
Find an abandoned cinderblock building in a state of collapse. They are everywhere around here.
i don't know about anymore, but advance autoparts used to just let you open a 500 dollar line of credit in the store with no information and you could just not pay it back and nothing would happen if your phone number was fake
i worked in collections :^)
>tfw no communist negress gf to physically and mentally buck-ess break
Black folk who wear shit like this should be fired for cause.