So I own two real guns (AR & G19), but shooting is expensive and I am just a college student. I used to airsoft when I was younger and have been feeling some FOMO recently. Also, I feel like the hobby might help to refine my tactics in the event I ever need to use firearms in real life. I’m thinking of dropping around $1000 on some gear and an HPA airsoft rifle (likely a clone of my real gun). Alternatively, I could save the money and spend it on more real life ammo or even an AP5.
What does /k/ recommend? I guess I want to larp, but I have nobody to do it with and airsoft might serve that end as well as other more practical ones
Nah. Its gay if its all you do but if you still have real guns then its fine. I collect replicas of stuff I will never own, like M240s and AA12s. I dont think they have any particular value from a training perspective, at least not in a capacity you couldn't do with your actual gun (reloading drills, dry firing, etc) but theyre fine as toys.
You are in college.
Save your money for a home down payment, a better car, small business enterprise professional improvement, or savings for hard times. Jesus Christ.
If you want to LARP, do a workout regimine and sign up for ROTC / Officer Candidate School in your state's National Guard. Get paid to have a part-time job LARPING where your only disipline to get good is by gun point from an MP forcing you to show up to do a pushup.
100% paid for by the us tax payer. Otherwise you are not going to be operating beyond a .22 LR conversion kit or 22LR upper and some sissy mags for cheap bullets.
Stupid fricking butthole! Save your money!! Stop disappointing your parents!
I like my hair though, I don't want to join a branch of the military or NG and have to buzz it just because I want to larp. Honestly, that's one of the biggest dealbreakers for me. I don't even care if it's unreasonable
Anon you really need to reassess your life. You are extremely immature for your age. Frick Larping or saving money. You need life experience and to fail so you can learn. Or you'll still be in this childish mindset as life passes you by.
If you're gonna dispense with the platitudes at least show that you can follow your own advice because some random internet homosexual giving advice without opening themselves up to the same level of criticism is just pissing in the wind.
Then play fricking video games!
College kids risk their lives in the army just to have food on the table and diapers on their kids asses shooting real guns at communists as real Tier 1 operators, with uncle sam paying for every LARP fantasy available, who wish they had $1000 to hold them over to finish FRICKING SCHOOL! So they wouldn't have to go through a living fricking hell a lot of them never return from in one piece. Finish school or drop out, as a serious adult students does not have the financial weight or time to throw away $1000
Grow up. Figure out your life priorities, before you end up as a dead broke serf no woman will want to deal with. What the frick is wrong with you?
Print this thread out. Apologize to your father for being a developmentally arrested manchild. Be better.
If you're Canadian you can have long hair
meds
Dubs and trips are always the truth.
OP is an irresponsible moron trying to compete with established middle aged men's cheap Russian surplus gen x and millennials, who collected their kits over long periods. These are hobbies for Middle aged men, aging men, or well established men that can command a real paycheck to have disposable cash. I'm tired of kids burning up their savings to pay for an arsenal they're never going to enjoy because they can't get value out of what they're already invested in. Enjoy what you got. Earn better money, and return to the idea when you're no longer paying thousands to attend lectures. Buy food instead.
The FOMO is a lie. Airsoft should be at least 1/3 the price of it's real firearm pattern replica if not less. Even a respectable .22LR field and stream gun is $200.
And yes, you earn enough where you're financing this worthless junk on college student/ wagie levels of labor compensation, you are going to develop diseases and mental problems from personal neglect. It's not cool, and those you're impressing with this nonsense aren't friends with your best interests in mind.
Here's an idea, come home with $200 worth of wholesome nutritious groceries and a utility bill paid. Impress your parents by paying some of their bills for the life you've been given, the 18 years of love, care and protection they've given for free out of love. Give your mother a hug and show your father you've become a real man worthy of his name. Make a local girl laugh thinking your worthy of her offspring, good company, and her protection.
The real FOMO is missing out on life for a stupid game horseshit that gets old.
You're better off buying real guns than airsoft ones, at least they work. And real ammo instead of airsoft pellets for the same reason. 1K for a fake gun is madness, when you can buy a real good one for that price
Checked but OP didn't ask for a sermon, he asked about airsoft. You assume a lot in the process
$1000 for an airgun is insanity double so as a 18-22 year old student with educational expenses on a typical low wage, where I can safely assume he's not pulling a full time job if he's attending regular classes. At any age for a student really, except I can assume a 25-30+ childless established with a real plan can afford it.
A full functional milspec AR can go for $500. Half of $1000
An optic should not exceed 1/3 of the gun's total value.
An airgun should not exceed 1/3 of the most discount IRL pattern of the gun replicated.
Expensive airguns are for rehabilitated convicted felons trying to maximize every lb pound of force, ft/sec velocity of performance without a background check. Larp a ban state that doesn't completely suck.
$150 should be max budget.
When I was 16-24 I wish someone saved me from the trajectory of all the stupid decisions I made, being an immature moron that didn't know better. I can't take it back. I can only ask God to forgive me.
Being ridiculously over budget at that age, with an expensive responsibility load, is neglectful and distastefully materialistic where it's reasonable to confront his personal values.
Is a $1000 nerf gun so much more better than $100? The one piece of gun culture that needs to die is the excessive consumer materialistic chasing that makes us look like goobers
>An optic should not exceed 1/3 of the gun's total value.
Stopped reading there
Used to deal with a Zoomer who lost $3000 in paychecks too moronic to use ADP, too silly to use a banking institution, that wouldn't stop window shopping the most exotic broken LARP guns that costs a mint during Covid lockdowns.
When I was in college, a Nugget and a SKS was a splurge for a tenth to a third of OP's budget.
The materialistic hobbyism culture portion of American gun culture of young adults competing with the collections 30 year old veteran in the hills of Virginia needs to stop. Young Adults have unaddressed problems they don't even know about to nuke large savings $1000 into the abyss for a toy. AR-15s pattern hate is for the status seeking culture of a pointless money pit
An AR-15 .22LR, or any decent .22 is $250-350 max
Op wants to know if he's being a moron. Yes he is.
You got a well made $1000 valued real AR-15, spending more than $333-350 on a modern optic as a non-operator civilian? Is that thing Night Vision? That tells me unaddressed fundamental marksmanship problems, trash brand selection, or wear glasses. A $350 budget will aquire an optic far above most of the competing world's infantry and peasant conscripts using irons that aren't specifically equipped state operators.
Dedicated warriors make zero compromise in budget. I'm talking about a college student and a regular minuteman with other concerns. 1/3 is reasonable self control.
I say this as a guy trying to get myself and friends into milsim.
Equipment kit price gets too silly, too fast with firearms and faux firearm accessories. It's one thing to invest in 21st century hoplite armor and spears of a centurion, the anointed knight of our time. Quite another thing to be silly on money.
>Also, I feel like the hobby might help to refine my tactics
you played airsoft as a kid you know it wont.
if you just want to do it cause airsoft was fun do it for that reason. you dont need to justify it with copium.
>shooting is too expensive but I have $1k ready to drop on toys
jesus
It would be an investment that saves money in the long run ... 5.56 is .40 cpr whereas 0.2 gram BBs are like 0.003 CPR
A G19 and a decent AR is a $1500 investment. A Mossberg is another $500. Your next gun will possibly be another $500. By the time your autistic manchild obsession is satisfied, youll have $2500 -$3500 invested in to a gay frick hobby
By the time you feel you have a "good collection" you have a home downpayment or a quality used car. You have payments to replace a broken roof.
Stop fricking up your life. Get some shit done. When you've got a nice car in your driveway, a mortgage properly in your name, and finished with school for corporate America to finally take your 9-5 box humping wagie ass seriously to start paying you a grown man's salary, then get back to me on ....
What $1000 Fake rifle is good to puff plastic pellets at rich teenagers instead of rip out the lung arteries of Arab insurgents or rioters trying to rape your girlfriend.
How about you take $25 dollars from that moron expense to take your loving parents out for a meal to thank them for all the bullshit your dumb frick idea grief has brought them. You, the apple of their eye, their son has burdened them so they missed out on their dreams to take care of you to become smart enough to go to college for 21 fricking years.
I recommend you finish school, save your money, and sign up for the Guard. OP is a homosexual.
Even if your parents are from money, you have no right to spend $1000 on a useless toy as a student until you find any employer willing to offer you serious responsibility unless you've enlisted for a state militia to underwrite your hobby. The maximum for a non-functioning adolescent air toy should be $100 until you are pulling in $1000 a week in paid billings, or so self built up and out of debt you can afford to make a few expensive mistakes.
This thread is the /k/ version of /misc/ trying to discuss the free speech ethics of CP.
Im NOT mad at you OP. Im Mad FOR YOU. Every 18-22 year old college student like this blowing a $1000 windfall are fricking up your life. homosexual!
>airsoft
You drop money on some stupid shit like a ARclone or basic b***h AK you deserve to be laughed at. Get airsoft guns that you will have absolutely no chance of attaining in real life.
Best choices.
>F2000
Can use basic AR mags and often has a usable optic out the box.
>M41A pulse rifle
Can use Thompson 20 rounders, 3d print more bases.
>Type 89
Uses basic AR mags
>fricking morons who slap fake ass optics and lasers and shit
You're a fricking loser. No I won't explain.
$1000 is ~2,000+ 5.56 rounds
$1000 is ~12,500+ .22LR rounds
$1000 is a premium centerfire rifle.
Why commit so much?
Yeh airsoft is ghey, go paintball, specifically ones that can be tuned up to shoot rito balls.
Fun with frens, and also potentially useful for repelling animals you dont feel like killing, from your property.
(not shown you can even get tick/bug repellent balls to shoot your own animals with)
>'home defense' indoors
>getting used to height over bore with the optic and correctly adjusting for very close distances with it RE: Paul Harrell's Mozambique drill video
Possibly if you have silly disposable income money. Otherwise it's money not spent on ammo for really training.
Buy a .22 and shoot more
This. Can even get the 22lr bolt for the ar15 and a lot of bricks with the left over
Airsoft is a great way to get cheap simround training in which is rhe most valuable training available to military and law enforcement. You'd need to do real milsim shit though and not shooting a bunch of kiddos like it's laser tag. Your team of children and morons will also not have any unit tactics. Get with a good team so you can practice real useful tactics. I'd also recommend a few training courses from tactical schools so you can know what the team is doing isn't just some BS they made up. Training isn't expensive. I'd say 2 building clearing and 2 field fighting courses would set you straight, so about $4-500. morons will spend more than that on one gun or waste $500 worth of ammo building bad habits. Smart chads will get formal training and not need to waste ammo because they'll retain knowledge on how to not get killed.
When i was 18 i wanted a G19 and AR-15 because they were cool. Now i own them. It made me happy.
Dial that $1000 budget into $300, $150 each respectively between the pistol and the rifle. Otherwise no more than $200 per piece.
SAFETY:
Do yourself a favor. Fluorescent Orange Paint the muzzle. Get Fluorescent Orange sticky tape strips to be New York, California, or New Jersey Airsoft compliant. Orange paint the tips. If your acting is too convincing the police don't panic and murder you for looking like a domestic t-rrorist when shooting bb's at your friends. Airsoft firearms come in similar premium materials to look and feel like real guns. Unless you're into attracting stranger's bullets, treat them as you would any real firearm.
You and your friends are going to get a proper face shield. Eye safety equipment.
Orange is uncool? Wrap the gun in orange so paranoid guys who would rather kill first then find out don't spill your intestines out on the floor when scared old ladies call the cops. Think about upholding the sport's reputation in the public mind's to avoid fueling lobbyists to ban airsoft toys as a public nuisance of kids up to no good. Remember, they look like real guns to the public, so their use will impact laws on real firearms no matter how unconstitutional. The sheriffs department needs guidelines to make snap decisions to drop dangerous folks.
Stay on a designated private property to play. Otherwise treat it with the respect of a real firearm, as strangers will treat you friendly or an imminent unknown threat based on your appearance.
https://www.airsoftextreme.com/airsoft-guns/electric-rifles/ar15-m4-rifle-variants/
This has some reasonably priced airsoft / bb guns at $150. I know nothing about plastic bb guns. I never had a plastic pellet replica assault weapon in my childhood, i had a pump bb gun that shot metal.
i'm a college student and i own an ar and glock as well. but i airsoft larp maybe once or twice a year at big events on the east coast because or class scheduling conflicts. however i'd recommend it to solo players because you get to meet great people and it's a ton of fun. a lot of great experience to just go out and larp.
i sold all of my airsoft gear that i ran in high school and just run an E&L AK that is stock and a somewhat modified classic army M4. i have one Velocity Systems plate carrier, an alice pack, and one chinese chest rig and it's great for milsims.
Get a 22
>What does /k/ recommend?
Get a CMMG conversion bolt. It lets you fire 22lr out of your AR15. Dont waste $1000 on an airsoft gun
i wouldnt bother with HPA when brushless microswitch AEG guns are more common and reasonable.
Yes it's moronic. Why spend money to LARP, if you have extra money invest it or buy a 308 and go shoot a deer in the face.
>I’m thinking of dropping around $1000 on some gear and an HPA airsoft rifle
Don't go full moron, at most buy a GBB pistol that is not too expensive so you can practice drills and safety so you dont ND like a moron if you have zero experience, a replica of the gear you own or plan to have in the near future as well, otherwise pick your used gear if possible (cheap gear days are gone on that though).
I would put most of the money on ammo (also a good cheap 9mm if you dont own one), a PC even if it's an airshit replica, and actual plates, Level IIIA is what you mostly would need, but picking Level IV would be ideal, but good luck doing that with 1K.
Airsoft is for kids, doing that shit after you're 21 is for homosexuals.
You're moronic for spending as much as you are more so than for what you want to do. When I was in school my friends bought a few shitty $20 electric units and had a blast with them. Stuff like that or a little more ($200 absolute tops, what are you thinking?) is fine and might actually be valuable to practice for home defense and potential muggings, the kind of things people actually use their guns for. For the rest, just practice reloading and dry fire since you have actual guns anyway. You can train to be Rambo later if you still want to once you have time and money, just stay in shape and get the .22 conversion others have mentioned for now.
There is no "guess" here. You do want to Larp. You'll be the coolest guy in a crowd of teens. Also, your opponents are going to be teens, kids, and other nerds who haven't figured out it's a waste of time. Buy a .22. Make it a .22 magnum if you want and spend time at the range actually shooting instead of playing with kids.
>So I own two real guns (AR & G19)
Unironically buy the Mantis X and Coolfire things shilled by guntubers. You could fully outfit both your AR and G19 with those systems for $1k and get tons of dryfire practice at home with the guns (You) already own (with your optics, triggers, etc.) instead of trying to buy airshit facsimiles of your guns to shoot BBs.
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