I'm from Denmark and really want to go to the USA this summer I have like 1.5 free months. I want to do a huge outdoorsman trip. The problem is I've really only hiked in the Netherlands and Denmark and my mom says it's too dangerous a jump to try and go hike in Wyoming or Michigan or Arizona etc. Anybody in the USA know if this is true or BS? Not only am I afraid of dangerous animals like bears and cougars but I'm wondering about the hike difficulty I'm used to pretty flat hikes not super intense ones. I'm not afraid of camping besides getting eaten but I see there are precautions you can take like smell-proof coolers. My mom has me worried I am just wondering is it actually that dangerous or should it be doable for somebody who has only some experience doing outdoorsy stuff.
yes
Safe in what way?
In every way. Most animals don't frick with you if you don't frick with them, or unless you stumble upon them with their young, and even then they just want you to frick off. The ones in national parks are used to people, so even when they're with their young they usually don't give a shit.
I'm 40. In my decades of being in the outdoors, I've only had two sketchy encounters with people out hiking or camping. And I got out of those situations on a gut feeling, not anything even happening.
If USA is too dangerous I think I might hike in Britain instead it seems the next level up from flat hikes. But 1.5 months in the UK is a lot I think,
This is really good advice actually, try doing a UK long distance trail like the west highland way (154km) as a good intermediate.
You can get it done in a weeks leave from work and it's absolutely stunning up there.
This may be a better path, given the current state of the US. If OP travels to the US he will also be an undocumented entrant, meaning that they will keep a record of him passing into the country and nothing else. Criminal investigative services will not look for him should he encounter danger. That's not exactly comforting...
Whereas in the UK, wild camping is much more straightforward and safely achievable. As you said it also fits the ideal timeframe.
don't listen to all these doom and gloom meme answers. these are election tourists who don't actually go PrepHole.
I've been on PrepHole for around eight years now.
And you still avatar post like a moron.
doubt you started going on PrepHole when you were 8 9 years old
You know you have to be 18 to post here, right. You're not underage are you?
>Been on PrepHole for 8 years
>Hasn't been outside I'm that whole time
Don't worry anon, you're in a safe place, just start screeching so that your wrangler can find you and get you off the internet and back in your diapers
You know you can just stop by a ranger station and let them know your plans right? I've done this a couple of times before difficult hikes. It's fun doing it this way because you get an excuse to talk with local people
Rangers are full blown morons. I’ve gotten bad information from rangers so much it’s like it must be a joke for them
Don't rangers also make $12/h?
Yes. Shit pay is no excuse for shit performance.
Last interaction was “we called to tell you where you’re going is totally inaccessible. You need to cancel” got there just fine.
Shit pay gets you shit workers, though.
I really like this comment
I tried to upvote it but I couldn't find the arrow.
Scotland has Wild camping,
England and Wales can be a bit of a faff to do in a legal way.
It's just "camping"
>If USA is too dangerous
idk what this even means to be honest, do u think we have gangs, or hicks killing people in the woods or something?
Go for it.
Hiking Snowdonia is pretty decent like.
are you talking about Solo Hiking?
Depends. As long as you take precautions and not be stupid, you'd be fine.
I'm planning on going out to Montana and don't usually roam Grizzly country. I looked up and learned a lot before hand, so I feel more prepped and informed. Is it 100% safe? fricking of course not. but the likelihood of being fricked up by a bear is greatly reduced now that I know what to do if I get into a situation.
Just do your research.
If you go to Michigan, I suggest the Porcupine Mountains. Gorgeous. travel the North Shore too.
Is it true black bears are safe I just need to be careful in the grizzly zones. I guess cougar attacks only happen if you are kneeling or lying down like an idiot and look injured.
grizzlies are more deadly in a sense, but black bears are statistically more dangerous. attacks from both are rare. it's hard to predict.
mountain lions also rarely attack adults but there's no real defense except to fight them with rocks or knives or bullets
The only thing you need to fight a cougar with is some fine wine and your big fat wiener.
yeah if I saw this I'd chimp the frick out like an ape and hope it would run off lmao
Mountain lions can be some persistent frickers if they're hungry enough
Had one stalk me n some of my boys in the dead of winter after we rang off gunshots to spook the fricker
If you see a black bear cub, then very danger. Otherwise they don't like you and run away, yes.
I heard taping fake eyes on the back of your backpack reduces chances of cougar attacks because they think they're being caught/seen.
Thats very interesting I remember stories of pajeets in India wearing metal guards on the back of their necks to avoid big cat attacks so I usually hike my pack up high when I'm worried but I get so obsessive
>how big should the eyes be?
>what material to use?
>what color?
>shiny or like glossy or highlighted somehow?
>where on the pack?
if i see you in gtnp with fake eyes taped to you i will hit you with a large piece of wood
Black bears are easier to spook and less aggressive... but on the flipside, much more of them are unafraid of humans because people feed them. You can actually fight off a black bear though with a spear or a big knife, with a brown bear you're fricked. Like the other guy said... with any large animal... if you see a cub/kitten, get the frick out of there immediately. what you must know is that you are way more likely to be attacked by a moose or deer species than a bear though.
>You can actually fight off a black bear
Don’t lie to the tourists dude. A black bear will frick you up, knife or not.
no bear is "safe" but black bears are not generally aggressive unless they have been acclimated to people and food. then they will be persistent and could pose a threat to people if you get in the way of them trying to steal your food. this is why you always keep your food separate from your camp in bear country
keep in mind if you dont have a high powered rifle this is what you are up against in grizzly country
Middle aged women with a foot fetish for Italian men?
I’m native to Idaho and MT. Good luck in the mountains if you get even somewhat turned around you are fricked. Even locals get lost and are rarely found alive if at all.
this. its dangerous here and we are full so stay the frick out
for some reason the bears seem to love eating foreign hikers. must be the creamy hamstrings.
so take bear precautions, like either avoiding heavy bear areas or foraging season, and using a bearbell and bringing spray with you.
otherwise yes, it's safe and you'll have a lovely time
Come to America, bro. I'll give you a gun immediately upon your arrival, for your protection of course.
Your biggest predator to fear is ticks and mosquitoes.permethrin and deet can easily help there.
Carry a gun or bear spray and don't worry about it.
Bear attacks are like once a year.
I hear wild wolf stories but nothing ever happens.
Only one coyote death in history.
Rattlesnakes black widows can be an issue. Just don't put your hands or legs where you can't see and make sure your sleeping is proof of any critters crawling in. Had a neighbor wake up with a young snake that bit him in the back country.
A lot of the US is very hilly, especially in Rockies. Are you visiting Oregon by chance?
>Foreigner
>Just carry a gun
Obvious bot
Why wouldn't a foreigner be able to buy a gun?
Absolutely. Other than human nature being inherently evil and dangerous the US is no different than other safe first world areas. Check and see if you're traveling to a state that has constitutional carry and get yourself a piece for protection.
Go to pictured rocks in Michigan. Decently flat, great views, the wolves and bear will leave you alone but the black flies won't.
The most dangerous animal in the United States doesn't really like hiking so you'll be fine.
>The most dangerous animal in the United States doesn't really like hiking so you'll be fine.
lol
Michigan has some big animals way up north, but the danger is mostly surprising a moose or a bear. Moose are spooky. The black bear are like big dogs. They can be dangerous if you surprise them from too close, but if you yell at them from a distance, they will pretty reliably frick off. We also have mountain lions, but I've never heard of anyone being attacked by one.
Bring a can of Deep Woods Off, long sleeved clothing, a hat with a brim, and a mosquito headnet. If you go in high summer, the flies will amaze you.
The horseflies are enormous and slow and while they will scare the shit out of you, they are easy to see and slap.The deer flies are easy to kill. The black flies are the size of pin heads and there are just so MANY of them... hence the nets and sleeves. The mosquitos are ... mosquitos. But bigger than you'd expect. The worst, in my opinion are the stable flies. They look like black house flies, but they have piercing mouthpieces and I have slapped them and GROUND them against my leg before, only to have the fly away. They are the devils own.
If you want to hike in MI, stick to the Upper Peninsula. You can do the Porcupine mountains or Pictured Rocks (or both) or a section of the North country trail. If you're already up there, consider paying for the ferry to Isle Royale and backpacking for several days up there. The ferries go to Copper Harbor or Houghton, MI but they also go to Minnisota, and the boundary waters/Voyagers are about the best canoe camping you can find, if you want to do that. So you could plan a Michigan-Isle Royal-Minnesota or vice versa leg of the trip.
Another great place to kayak, (canoing works, but watch the weather...) is the Apostle Islands.
Don't get too close to the edge of the cliffs overlooking lake superior. They can crumble without warning.
Do not underestimate Lake Superior.
Do not underestimate Lake Superior.
That's not a typo.
I live in the middle of nowhere northern Michigan. The most dangerous animals up here are the bugs. Black flies and mosquitoes are so thick you can hear a massive buzz when they are warming themselves for takeoff.
Heard of only two bear attacks in my life, one was a dude who didn't check if it was dead before posing for a photo and the other was this 5' 90pound chick who almost was a snack. I have never heard of a wolf actually attacking a human before, but plenty of dogs get killed. Moose freak me out but there aren't too many of them.
It's a beautiful place, mostly flat with only two seasons, winter and bugs but it's still home. You might want to check out the whitefish shipwreck museum, it's cool. Pictured rocks is the tourist go to, for good reason. There are a bunch of offroading trails around Marquette if that's your thing.
>Do not underestimate Lake Superior
>Stan Rogers Chad checks in
Hell yeah brother.
okay which PrepHole Black person troll keeps spamming these Euro vs USA threads?
Cool it with the casual racicm
I bet you'll have a nice day in your bathtub, as far away from anything outdoors as you can manage
Time to bring out the professional racism
go back to plebbit Black person
you might want to find an american friend in the area to go with
he could have a gun and big american muscles to help you keep safe
I would but I'm in a different part of the country
you could take my AR (Anus Ravager) 15 rifle and I'll take La Pistole
thusly we'll be delivered from all danger
The AR stands for Assault Rifle, it is the 15th model of that rifle that the Army field tested (and rejected) during Vietnam. It's the same reason the Army applies stupid naming to everything, like them naming the M4... the M4. Or the BAR being named Browning Automatic Rifle.
>The AR stands for Assault Rifle,
"AR" is from the name of the company, Armalite.
That has been debunked
well mine has a front-mounted wienering device4 that's made for anal ravage
it should be called SAR-15 (Sexual Assault Rifle) because that's what it's really good at
I guess it shouldn't have taken them 15 tries to get it right but that's the army for you hehe ehehehehe
Are you trolling? Most of what you said was wrong, and the rest I'm not sure of.
The AR-15 means assault rifle 15 as it originally had 15 shells in the clip but then they made it deadlier by doubling the amount of shells. The AK-47 stands for Assault Killer 47 caliber.
This is such low quality bait that it's just an embarrassment to yourself.
perfectly safe, bring peanut butter and honey
there are no skinwalkers do not worry.
No matter where you go "nobody would follow the river this far up here" I'm watching you. No matter where you go or what you do I am watching.
>implying there isn't a giant parking lot right behind the camera
I was counting goats that year. I was in a hammock 2000 feet up and I could start a onlyfans page of people who have sex outside
yeah well they could start an onlyfans page of someone who has sex with goats outside
I actually could.
What state?
Call 911 if you see a bear
Better yet call 911 before you start your hike to request an officer hike with you to protect you from animals
This.
I always hiked with 2 offices, one of them hiking backwards, when i eas hiking in usa. I am from europe (country doesn't matter, it's the same in all of europe, including russia).
>denmark
just take a short boat or plane trip up north and hike all you want with less risk of both animals and humans?
>Is hiking in the USA safe?
Anon, the crime rate in the US for the year of 2021 was 398.5. For comparison, the crime rate in the UK was 77.49. That is a little over 5x...
The US is a third world country in a Gucci belt. There were six mass shootings in the past week, at a rate of nearly one per day. Then there are the constant stream of articles on people disappearing without rhyme or reason when they are PrepHole. And I mean disappearing entirely, without leaving traces of a body behind. How many people vanish on the AT every year?
Then there are stories like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_the_Hatchet-Wielding_Hitchhiker
You figure that if wandering axe murderers are so common that it becomes an internet phenomenon, things have to be absurdly dangerous there.
>third world country in a Gucci belt
Bruh the US is a mess
its insanely dangerous dont come here everybody i know has been mugged or jumped and sometimes they dont even take anything. its a known fact people target tourists and out of towners, particularly yuppies. jsut stay in europe youre not welcome here.
I'm from Arizona and live on the East Coast which I assume would be similar. Take how much water you think you need and multiply that by 6. Take how far you think a mountain is away and multiply it by 10. The scale of here vs the west is fricking weird. Like landscapes look similar with hills or whatever but the scale is just immensely smaller here. Yes if you attempt a through hike in the West unpreparred you might die. People die in Arizona constantly. The moment you touch down you can feel the air sucking the moisture out of your skin.
It's insane how much less water you need here on the atlantic. When I first moved here people were confused why I carried a gallon to work everyday.
>Is hiking in the USA safe?
yes. The further you get from yor car the safer it is.
>Is hiking in the USA safe?
Yes, very. Unless you are an idiot and aren't prepared.
>hurrdurrr
Intellectually stunted, morally depraved PolTards get the rope.
He's not wrong, if they didn't exist the US would be top 3 safest countries in the world per capita
It's safe. Bring a gun if you're worried about animals and rapists
>europeans consider the US wilderness some scary, hardcore place like it's the zone or something
Heheheh, cool.
americans think the other way and we have to airlift thoose suckers out
>b-but it was a tourist destination why didnt it have an escalator?
bump
Forgot vid:
Come to Oregon, I'll hike with you anon
If you’re in brown bear country, buy bear spray.
Otherwise you have nothing to worry about. If you’re in the desert watch out for rattlesnakes and scorpions. Around cougar/black bear territory you don’t really need to worry because they don’t attack adult men, just act large and stand your ground on the off chance you encounter one. The real killer would be if you’re stupid and not bring water in the desert or fall off a ridge in the rockies or something. Also, far more dangerous to be in the urban jungles than in the wilderness
Don't go to Arizon. Way too hot and dangerous for an amateur. Go to Montana, Idaho, or even the Olympic mountains in Washington.
Frick you, I'm tired of being invaded. AZ is already overrun.
>I'm tired of being invaded.
>yfw
?
Every location above 6,000ft (40% of Arizona's land area) is 40-50F at night in summer and 70-90F during the day. The backcountry is dangerous in every western state regardless of climate.
>sweat then freeze
Yeah that totally makes it better dumb eastern b***h
I've lived in AZ my entire life, in both the low desert and the mountains. The high country summers are pleasant, it's laughable if you think it's hot out at 85-90F with a breeze in a forest or cold out at 40-60F on a midsummer evening. It's t-shirt and shorts weather. Eastoids and urbanites can't comprehend the kind of temperature variations that states like AZ have between various locations at any given time of year. I've been east to, and people don't drop dead nearly as often in florida as people do in AZ's deserts, while high elevation AZ is pleasant in summer and has hundreds of miles of winter sports PrepHole in winter.
Not understanding climate variation has nothing to do with west vs east. It has to do with understanding the implications of humidity and frankly there's not much in your post suggesting you are any more clued in than a typical urbanite.
>Not understanding climate variation has nothing to do with west vs east. It has to do with understanding the implications of humidity and frankly there's not much in your post suggesting you are any more clued in than a typical urbanite.
He is from Arizona. Humidity is not a factor. Even in the monsoon season the humidity is usually below 50%.
There is no place nicer than a 75 degree day at 3000m elevation in the White Mountains of eastern Arizona in August.
>Humidity is not a factor.
Wrong.
>Even in the monsoon season the humidity is usually below 50%.
A largely meaningless statement. Relative humidity percentage is... relative to the temperature. 40% RH at 100F is a dew point of 71F. 75% RAH at 80F is also a dew point of 71F. Certain parts of Arizona certainly see dew points well into the high 60s and low 70s during monsoon.
If there isn't a persistent danger of violent and/or extremely painful death then what you're doing isn't worth doing
>Where is the danger in posting on PrepHole?
As long as you avoid hiking in the cities, where the north American pavement ape lives, you'll be ok
Crime and animals aren’t an issue.
The biggest threat is always getting lost or dehydrated. There are some longer stretches of trails that are basically deserted most of the time, so even if you’re not lost you’re on your own. Running out of water can become seriously dangerous, but most people who are venturing into areas like that are prepared.
One of the biggest hurtles you’ll face outside of danger is logistics. The trails aren’t within walking distance of the airport, and very view are accessible by public transit. You’ll often need to arrange a shuttle. The exceptions to this are usually national parks (which often have public shuttles, or an east enough to find private shuttle). Renting a car is an option as well (about $350/week for a compact), but then you’re limited to loop hikes.
>I wouldn't worry about it.
Memes aside, unless you some how bump into some deepwood methheads (rare) or large animal is annoyed by you or is hungry (very rare) it is safe. Bears and big cat attacks are not common. Big cats only go after people if they are too old or weak to hunt their normal prey. Bears only attack people when they think their cubs are in danger, are super hungry, or you surprise them. Elk and moose only attack if you get too close. Wolves are rare and generally don't frick with people. Do your homework, talk to people in the areas you want to visit, and pack appropriate gear to deal with the off chance threats.
If you aren't moronic and do your research there's nothing to worry about. Grizzlies are a bit scary and the precautions needed are a lot so I would recommend starting in the Appalachians or some other place where grizzlies don't roam. Black bears are much more timid than grizzlies, as long as you hang your food up and know what to do in an encounter there is almost zero risk. I would not worry about cougars at all, there's been less than 2 dozen fatal attacks in the past century. What you should actually be worried about is the smaller stuff like snakes and ticks, other than that you should be fine.
Michigan is perfectly fine, and good right now and in the fall when it's cool. July and August the lakes cause high humidity and it's a sauna. Might see a black bear and cubs at the most, just don't annoy them. They're pretty chill as bears go. Not that many (if any) wolves and mountain lions in the south of the state. North has coniferous forest and south is mostly deciduous.
Aye we don't tolerate racism here.
Frick off homosexual.
If you have to ask this question you won't make it here, but honestly you prolly won't make it anywhere outside your house
Your biggest dangers in certain areas like Wyoming for example will be animals. Even though the terrain in some places is harsher than you're used to, all of the tourist areas have nicely laid out trails, and plenty of foot traffic during the day. Honestly, I would not hike somewhere with plentiful deadly animals like Wyoming unless I have a gun, or am with someone else with a gun. Sure, attacks might be rare in the grand scheme of things, but you're probably gonna be on edge the whole time... and if you draw the short stick you're fricked. Even a moose will kill you. If you instead chose somewhere like the east coast Appalachian trail, you wouldn't have to worry about dangerous wildlife as much. If you were going with a group it might be safer, but I'd still want to carry a spear at least.
If you remove 5 cities from the united states the crime rate would be similar to northern europe. You'd be more likely to die in a crash on the way here than be attacked by a human.
If you're talking about mother nature just watch out for heat, snakes(frickers hang out on trails and roads), and bears.
>Detroit
>Chicago
>Philadelphia
>Camden
>Oakland
That leaves...
>Baltimore
>Minneapolis
>Los Angeles
>New York City
>Stockton
>Riverside
>Houston
>Dallas
>San Francisco
>Hoboken
>Cleveland
>Cincinnati
>St. Louis
>New Orleans
>>You're gonna need a bigger boat...
Yes, Americans are weak b***hes you could crush their skulls with your viking blood strength.
I've mostly hiked in new england but camping out has never bothered me. If you are camping in an area where many people have camped before it's a good idea to separate yourself from your food at night. Many places will have bear boxes (metal crates bolted to the ground) for storing food overnight, and you can also bring a bear bag (a sack you can hand from a tree).
If you're camping in a place where not many people have camped before the odds of running into a bear are so low its hardly worth thinking about. Last trip to the white mountains I slept out with no tent and my food right next to me.
I live in Wyoming and trust me, if you're of average fitness and want to get PrepHole here in Wyoming its very doable. there's tons of well managed and safe trails to start out on and you can work your way towards the more secluded places as you go. With 6 weeks and assuming reasonable funds you could come out west and manage a 6-10 mile day hike every day/other day depending on how your feeling and maybe spending the weekends in a hotel (more people on the trail during weekends). Come out here, rent a car, meet some locals, talk to the visitor center people, do day hikes in the Tetons, absarokas, and wind rivers. If you got the time go check out the big horns as well. Maybe by week 4 or 5 you'll feel prepared to do a multi day loop hike, and you can really get PrepHole there. Best of luck Anon.
Those 3 areas are vastly different and will have their own unique challenges. The main things that could hurt you are bugs in forests and microorganisms in water sources. Also don't run out of water in Arizona and make sure it won't be too hot there. I've heard stories of hikers getting caught on 120-130f days and getting to the hospital with a body temp of 115f. Brain was cooked, probably a lot of damage.
Check the weather.
It's probably the wrong time of year for much of the American southwest.
Some Canadian moron just died of heatstroke at the Grand Canyon on an easy trail. Probably was barely 90 degrees.
That's not even hot.
Double check distances and travel times. Most states are literally 10x bigger than Denmark.
why dont you try northern mamma svea first?
Stick to well traveled trails. Wild animals will avoid the crowds of humans. Likewise, cartel pot growers stay away from popular trails.
>only hiked in the Netherlands and Denmark
You might want to watch some of the higher altitudes since you may not be acclimated.
Generally safe but the most risks are involving getting abducted by aliens or sasquatch.
You have a pretty good chance of getting stabbed or shot on your way from the airport to the car rental place.
So no.
Where have you hiked in Denmark?
American here, if I meet someone on the trail with a Denmark accent, I WILL rape you. Not joking, I will make a point to rape every tourist I can just to get to your sweet salty hole.
>implying americans can detect a danish accent
you're just gonna blow him because you think he's german
You'll be fine. Accidents and crime happen, but on trail it's roughly as dangerous as your average suburb. Just avoid the melanated Americans and carry some bear spray if you're in bear country.
Your biggest worry is actually the insects. You have no immunity to any of them and they are many.
>avoid the melanated Americans
you won't find those on the trail
this is what happens when you euro lowlanders come here
Here’s what you need to realize hiking in the Eastcoast is incredibly safe, the only possible dangers are weather and getting Lyme disease. Hiking in the west can be more dangerous due to more difficult terrain and predators.
I WILL rape you.
bears, cougars, snakes, spiders, scorpions, coyotes, wolves, narcos, skitzos, tweekers, psychokillers, chinese fentanyl smugglers, radical communists, MK-Ultra test subjects, jihadis, cultists, indian extremists, human traffickers, perverted hillbillies, neonazis, boomer hunters, hmong poachers, aliens, skinwalkers, communists, meth cooks, paedo scoutmasters, CIA death squads, Spetznaz infiltrators.
Just avoid those and you will be fine. I probably exagerrate a bit, not all of those pose equal danger. For example, paedo scoutmasters are usually not that bad unless seriously starved.
Just rent a gun for when you're on the trail.
I'm from a flat coastal area of the US and would go on hiking trips to the San Juan mountains as a kid. Never had any problems, you just want to look where you are walking. That helps alot. Oh and walk slower when going down hill. If you can do those two things you should be fine.
This might piss PrepHole off but if you're that concerned about difficulty/danger of backwoods, just go to national parks and do some trails there. They have a range of difficulty and are usually reasonably trafficked and marked so you shouldn't get lost. You can also tell rangers where you're going. Plus most of the must see scenery is on NPS or NFS land anyway
I'm also Danish and have a similar dream to hike USA. I'm most concerned about manhunters/hillpeople types. Reckon there's a reason why hikers and gun-people overlap so much in america
Yeah it's a legitimate fear, real life is just like deliverance
I personally got all my information about Denmark from Hamlet so I don't think I'll ever go there in case I get embroiled in a war of succession between a cuckold king's heir and brother.
KAMELOSA?
The people who are out in nature in the US are usually well off and friendly (especially compared to Europoors).
You should fear the Black folk you will see in the city you fly into way more.
I’m a frequent backpacker, and own plenty of guns. It’s never crossed my mind to bring a gun backpacking since I started 37 years ago.
Really, Black person? I mean, really???
You own 'plenty of guns' have backpacked 37 years,
and not once, not one single time in 37 years, you didn't think to yourself, you know, I *have* these guns AND I'm going somewhere I can shoot them, but nope, why combine two things I like, when I can just post homosexualy bullshit on the thread.
KYS plebitor.
there's actually not a big overlap. there's probably a higher percentage of people carrying a gun at a small town Walmart than on a hiking trail (besides Alaska)
No he's right. Hillpeople are definitely hostile. Look at all the disappearances over the last twenty years. People disappear all the time in the rural areas of the US.
it depends on the time of year and location and your experience and preparedness. there are experienced outdoorsment and hunters who go missing and die in the winter because they get lost in a snow blizzard in wyoming or montana and freeze to death. even people familiar with an area can get disoriented by very bad weather. even experienced people fall through crevasses while hiking the glaciers of alaska or montana and get stuck and suffocate or starve to death. you should always have a plan and let people know when to expect your return and give an approximate if not an exact location so search parties can look for you. montana, wyoming, and alaska, arizona have some of the most rugged terrain in america. arizona in the summer is brutal and you will die in the desert if you get lost off trail and dont come prepared with enough water to get back. that happens all the time in the summer. people go off trail, look through some neat caves, forget which way exactly they came back because the trails in the desert blend in and are hard to see from a distance and start wandering deeper into the desert. then they freeze at night and die in the brutal daytime heat if the search choppers cant find them. shit happens literally on a weekly basis in arizona. but if you arent moronic or have some decent technology you will be fine, thousands of people enjoy the outdoors hiking without any issue whatsoever. in the shitty democrat states like arizona id be way more worried about illegal beaners and Hispanic drug smugglers than any natural threats.
as safe or as dangerous as you make it
>hates the UN enough to get a patch about it
damn anon, who hurt you?
/misc/ larpers have this weird fantasy obsession that one day the UN will roll in and lay waste to everything because.
They don't know that the UN has never been effective, and hasn't done anything in decades.
>only pol hates NWO globalist that control you on behalf of corporations.
Drink the corn syrup
>failed to address the point that the UN has done anything, ever
Maybe if you believe hard enough it'll happen, I guess. Just two more weeks bro.
Don't come here, we like to find cute Danish boys in the woods and take their buttholes
As long as you prepared it's safe. Grizzly bears are very rare in the lower 48 and mountain lions are also pretty rare. Black bears are relatively common, but pose little threat. As for difficulty it's about the same a Denmark I'd imagine unless you go hiking in an environment your not use to like desert or swamp, if you do bring a lot and I mean a LOT of water. Otherwise have fun friend
I live in Arizona and the biggest thing you should be prepared for is dehydration. Bring lots of water, especially coming from low elevation. You'll also probably want to take it easy for a day or two to acclimate. For example, the grand canyon is about 2 km above sea level and so is everything else that's not too hot during the summer. You should watch out for animals, especially snakes. Mountain lions tend to attack people hiking alone at night so don't do that. There is serious wilderness in the state but if you go somewhere popular like the grand canyon, there'll be plenty of easy hikes and a lot of other foreign tourists too.
>whole thread is america getting btfo
and it was glorious
Lake Michigan area is pretty safe.
You will be fine. Climb Denali that's my advice. Make sure to pack a lunch and at least 2 500ml bottles of water
Roving bands of indians will scalp you.
GIWTWM
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I think the biggest problem you have in America are not cougars or bears but crazy people and violent schizos with guns. Not saying hiking in Europe is 100% safe all the time, but worst you risk here realistically is having your wallet stolen, in America you get shot by some crazy and are left to rot in the middle of nowhere. I'd be too afraid to do it if I were you
Considering the crime rate is 5x... yeah you are right to be afraid of going to America.
Michigan is both safe and kino as far as ghe forests are concerned.
>Michigan
>safe
>the state that houses Detroit
>>safe
I will enjoy reading about your disappearance on missing 411 toothpaste Black person. Make sure to avoid skin walkers at all costs and god speed.
>toothpaste
That's the Netherlands you brainless /misc/ack
Lmao who cares Europeons are all homosexual urbanites anyway. I saw Netherlands and didn’t care to think further.
Don’t worry about the wildlife, your biggest concern should just be tripping/falling. You might get shot at but it’s no big deal as long as you don’t get hit.
Black folk don't go hiking, so yes. Trails are also very well mapped out and you can get cellphone service almost anywhere nowadays.
No its unsafe there is actually serial killer who hunts down Europeans traveling here and forces them to submit to his BBC
All right you tourist.
So you want to come to America but mom's not keen.
A. How the frick old are you?
B. Is your mom hot?
So, you want to go /out in America. Ok.
Things to know:
1. All 50 states plus the Federal government have outdoor recreation sites. Actually I think the feds have multiple because in addition to National Park Service, there's the US Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management and one other I'm not remembering that all offer rentals.
These can be basic campsites with no accommodations 20 miles from a trail head to giant forest service cabins that sleep 60 with full electricity, running water, fireplaces etc. and everything in between
PLUS there's private campgrounds. One of my favorites is the Hiouchi RV park in Crescent City CA. Normally I would never recommend someone voluntarily go to California, but you're 6 miles from Oregon in the Redwood Forrest. You can rent a Yurt there - in the redwoods. So you've got a warm safe place to sleep, the camp has a clean showers, there's a diner across the street if you don't feel like cooking and right across the border in Oregon is a liquor store that sells top shelf shit for dirt cheap. So, if you want to run around in the Redwoods all day - that's the place to be. Plus you're on the coast and it's gorgeous.
2. All these organizations publish books and have websites where you can get an idea for the area. Have 6 weeks to kill? Setup a base camp in one area, explore it for a week, move to a different basecamp. But you can do some digital scouting to come up with a plan.
3. Guides. If you're new to the country, contracting a sportsman guide can be invaluable. Want to go hunting? They can loan you a gun. THe private reserves in Tx are insane and awesome. Want to go fishing? They provide the boat, tackle and knowledge. Want to go horseback riding in the Grand Canyon? Catch a sturgeon in the Columbia? Walleye, muskie or pike fishing in the Great Lakes? 4 wheeling in Moab? All possible
4. Everything has risk. Mitigate those risks and you should be just fine. It's not /out you need to be worried about - it's big cities, especially in blue states.
5. Country folk are usually the friendliest people you'll ever meet, whether that's on the East Coast of Maui, the Smokey Mountains or East Texas. Southern hospitality is a real thing.
The people are awesome in America. Don't believe people shitting on country folk. I'd rather drink shine from a jug on a porch in a West Virginia hollar than drink beer in an Manhattan bar.
6. If you're going to the east, check out finger lakes area of New York, Green Mountains in VT or Maine coast
Can't go wrong anywhere in the Great Lakes outside of visiting a city like Chicago or Milwaukee. That's the most dangerous place to go.
Michigan: U.P. Can 2nd previous anon's recommendation on Porcupine Mts. Also 14 Mile Pt Lighthouse is pretty dope. There are critters in the woods so take bear spray with you.
Southern MI: Holland/Saugatuck area has tons of dunes, lake swimming, boating, fishing, camping, hiking, biking etc.
Wisconsin: Totally underrated /out state. Devil's Lake, the Dells, The Wilderness. Tons of trails plus the state converted 100's of miles of old railroad into biking/hiking trails. so flat and not steep.
Tons of camping opportunities up north, deer hunting opportunities, lots of cabins, lodges and preserves available to rent. Fantastic lake fishing, kayaking, and canoeing. Can do a lot of water-based canoe/kayak style camping. There's also a lot of sailing and little islands in the great lakes you can go to.
West Virginia: God's country. Super rocky ridgelines, deep forests, land before time shit. It's not the Rockies but in a lot of ways it's more dangerous because people underestimate how rugged the Appalachians can be.
North Carolina: Check out by Asheville. High up so not as blistering hot and muggy as the Piedmont and coast.
Tennessee: Stay the frick out of Memphis
TN continued: Hot, humid, best time to go out is in the fall. look for high elevation areas in Smokies/Appalachian.
Missouri: Ozarks is the name of the game. Amazing boating, rivers, canoes. Tons of hiking, rugged for midwest. Cheap. Lots of good fishing, beautiful, can be super hot and humid also.
If you're going to /out West:
Arizona>New Mexico. The desert sucks and unless you know what the frick you're doing I wouldn't.
Northern Az I *would* recommend. Jerome, Holbrook, Snowflake, Heber-Overgaard.
Avoid Cali like the blight it is
Oregon: great out State. lots of beginner and intermediate shit and lots of extremes. Columbia River is great place to go out. Oregon Coast. I'd stay out of the mountains unless you know what you're doing. Stay out of Portland. Everything else is pretty good but the further south you go, that's one of the parts of the country where you can run into serious weirdo cultists in the woods . Rogue River area is amazing, beer is amazing, incredibly white water and camping all over state. Check out their state campgrounds website.
WA: My favorite. Olympics, Lake Chelan, Hoh rainforest, TONS of good campsites/campground, airbnb's innawoods, guides, kayaking, boating, fishing, hiking. Painted Rocks are beautiful, Sequim area is amazing. Juan De Fuca straight, the Islands. Avoid Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia - seriously bad Antifa hotspots and property crime. Cops often don't come if called. Rural areas totally fine. Awesome geothermal hotsprings around the state, well worth prioritizing them, just research which ones ahead of time. Some are beautiful but overrun by stinking naked middle-aged, sex-crazed hippies. No. Don't even consider it. You also can get woo-woo weirdo cults out innawods at these frequently so if you're going to the ones on public land do your homework first.
WY: only been through once but there is nothing there. Just hours of rolling flatlands that lead up to mountains.
MT: Awesome
ID: Awesome
>Northern Az I *would* recommend. Jerome, Holbrook, Snowflake, Heber-Overgaard.
Ignore this butthole. Of those four places, the only one worth seeing is Jerome. There are much more interesting and comfy towns in Arizona: Prescott, Bisbee, the Hopi Indian villages (Walpi especially), hell, even Sedona and Flagstaff are better for tourists than the shitholes he mentioned.
Risk Management:
Bear spray is a must. Even if there aren't bears one of the biggest problems I'm surprised no anon mentioned yet is wild or loose dogs. People love to let their pittbulls off leash to maul the wildlife so you're much more likely to run into an aggressive dog(s) than anything and bear spray comes in handy there. You can get it almost anywhere, gun stores, WalMart, camping stores, outfitters. It's all over the place.
Snakes: there are poisonous snakes all over the country from Diamondback rattlers in the west to cottonmouths, copperheads, water moccasins, massasauga's & more. Mostly they leave people alone but the water snakes can be particularly aggressive.
Bugs: use Deep Woods Off if you're /out. Bloodsuckers like skeeters, chiggers and ticks can give you all sorts of diseases. Tall boots, long pants.
You: you are your own worst enemy. Carry a 1st aid kit, and sunscreen and get a good water bladder for when yuo're out. Carry more water than you need. Carry water purification tablets, lifestraw and way to boil water and several different ways to start a fire.
Getting lost: E-pirb for true emergencies, cell phone, backup GPS, paper maps. whistle. You'll go hoarse way faster from shouting for help than using a whistle if something happens.
Travel and medical insurance. let's say you are mauled by Mike Tyson's escaped pet tigers, your friendly neighborhood pitbull or a middle-aged sex crazed stinking hippie cult member. Have travel and medical insurance. Have good travel and medical insurance. Get a lot of it - just in case. You twist an ankle, break a leg or get shot in the dick by a poacher you want to get covered and flown back home. ER bills in America are a great way to go into debt 6 figures.
If you have minimal experience look at going to an /out school. NOLA, Tom Brown's Tracker School, there's all sorts of out training programs to give you practical experience and training. Go for it
have you ever actually been outside? i call larp
Been /out in
Alaska - King Salmon fishing on the Little Sue River, camping
Deer & duck hunting in OH, PA, OR
Canoeing: OH, MO, MI, WI, CO
Horseback riding all over Collegiate mountain range in CO & all over WI
Mountain biking all over
Fishing: all over the great lakes, Missouri, OR/WA, Maui
Panning for gold in CO, CA
Love to go out to stargaze away from light pollution. Amazing the amount of UFO's you can see.
Now I'm old, fat and crippled after 2 gnarly car accidents so mostly I stick to 4 wheeling and comfy cabins. but yes, me and the dog love to go out.
I'm just not some ultralight vegan c**t free climbing El Cap from his van or trying to conquer one of the Continental trails in a season.
I've slept in everything from tarp & hammock to a canvas tent with a stove to your mom's bed.
I take it easy now. Except on your pain bawd of a mother.
You're in far more danger spending a weekend in any big American city than you are if you hike the whole Pacific Crest Trail.
I live in Arizona, we have mountain lions, black bears, Mexican wolves, and even a few jaguars way down south. I've spent hundreds of days in the woods and none of them have ever bothered me.
no it’s not very safe if you’re an urbanized moron.
also, watch out for sasquatch. they love to eat naive danish sausages