>Electric armour or electromagnetic armour is a type of reactive armour proposed for the protection of ships[1] and armoured fighting vehicles[2] from shaped charge and possibly kinetic weapons using a strong electric current, complementing or replacing conventional explosive reacting armour (ERA).
>Electric armour is a recent development in the United Kingdom by the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory.[16][17][18][19][20][21][22] A vehicle is fitted with two thin shells, separated by insulating material. The outer shell holds an enormous electric charge, while the inner shell is at ground. If an incoming HEAT jet penetrates the outer shell and forms a bridge between the shells, the electrical energy discharges through the jet, disrupting it. Trials have so far been extremely promising, and it is hoped that improved systems could protect against KE penetrators. The developers of the Future Rapid Effect System (FRES) series of armoured vehicles are considering this technology.
>Another version of electric armour uses layers of plates of electromagnetic metal with silicone spacers on alternate sides. The damage to the exterior of the armour passes electricity into the plates causing them to magnetically move together. As the process is completed at the speed of electricity the plates are moving when struck by the projectile causing the projectile energy to be deflected whilst the energy is also dissipated in parting the magnetically attracted plates.
so if you touch the vehicle you die? cool in a riot i guess but moronic the rest of the time
just don't touch it bro
You can insulate metal. Actually you'd have to insulated it, just anything in the environment like a bush brushing up against the vehicle can ground the metal if you don't.
so how would it react to the warhead
Maybe read the text? The armor is expected to do nothing if the surface is not pierced.
that doesn't answer the question
>that doesn't answer the question
I sure hope you're just pretending to have sub-90 IQ.
>it's grounded, it won't shock stuff
>but it will still shock stuff magically
speak for yourself
Option 1:
>penetrator pierces outer plate
>penetrator contacts (presumably traditionally armored) inner plate, completing a circuit
>massive amounts of electricity vaporize the penetrator, greatly degrading its ability to penetrate the inner plate
Option 2 sounds like some kind of variable-density Chobham but I can't really visualize how exactly it's supposed to work as described.
Yeah
>so if you touch the vehicle you die?
It would be extremely painful
to be fair though touching the HEAT would kill you too
>Captain, the Chinese are attacking!
>Set railguns to full charge, aim at their shield generators! Fire!
Polarize the hull, arm phase cannons, prepare to fire.
Sir we only have torpedoes.
Then put them up my ass goddamn it.
>plates of electromagnetic metal
So either the PR guy who wrote this didn't understand a fricking thing of what the engineers told him, or it's a scheme to scam investors and the gibberish ensures they only reel in marks too stupid to sue them.
I don't think it's technically wrong to say electromagnetic in place of conductive.
What? Is that some ancient boomerspeak invented by a guy who had a very basic electrician-level understanding of things but had never heard of an electron or something? It implies that there are such things as non-electromagnetic plates, but electromagnetism is one of the three/four fundamental forces of nature. It's the one that primarily responsible for all chemical and mechanical properties of all everyday matter except for weight. Hell, even if you had neutronium plates available that'd still react to magnetic fields.
I didn't write the article damn
Maybe they even mean like a foil. Wrapped car Tesla snaps an rpg
It's just a wikipedia article, guy. That part of the article isn't even sourced.
>That part of the article isn't even sourced.
That hardly precludes it from being copy-pasted form a press release, but sure, it's also entirely possible that some wikpedia editor didn't understand the shit he was writing about either.
That just seems like over-developed ERA with a blatant electromagnetic weakness for the sake of (???).
>electromagnetic weakness
What's the weakness?
>for ???
For greater effect on penetrators with none of the hazards to nearby infantry
The infantryman is still totally dead if an anti-tank round is being electrocuted as it explodes next to him.
when electricity kills something it gets burnt to a crisp so no there is no harm to the bystanders
It vaporizes the penetrator. Traditional era poses a lethal danger to infantry much further away than the blast of a HEAT round would, or the spall from a kinetic penetrator
I'll take "what is a capacitor?" for $2000.
Correct. Though I'm not sure why you think that's some revelation
Depulsion Faren Kroitzfeld pulse gravity detachment air bubble triangle TM.
When any metal, wood or plastic comes nearby, triangle burst small antigravity field actively displacing any object that is coming near with superfast AI in helmet that can predict what kind of object it is, is it friendly or danger.
There is enough energy for around 1000 actions per triangle so suits can be used multiple times without charging them up.
Charging time is around 3 hours with fast mode up to 50% in 15 minutes.
And this is just prototype, until 2028 we will have up to 10000 actions/triangle and it will fill it's batteries by heartbeat of soldier so no charging will be needed.
Also, boots with same tech will be available around 2031 so soldiers can silently and comfortably fly to or out of danger zone.
If soldier is God forbid, shocked or scared a little, AI will automatically take him and suit into base.
Alright but electrical reactive armor is based in reality
Kinda works both ways....
As far as stopping fast, hot metal coming to you, all I can think of is some form of...ah.. problem is battery, is, was and will be.
As long as we don't have portable atomic batteries this can maybe work on some huge ship, maybe tank or truck/
It doesn't need a massive battery, it is a massive battery. It's how a capacitor works
This anon is correct
You can charge capacitors slowly as to reduce the power draw. It's actually pretty energy efficient and worst case scenario you have to charge the vehicle at an EV charging station before riding into enemy fire, but most likely the electricity can be recycled and routed from braking and accelerating just like a normal POV.
The final outer layer of the vehicle will not hold the electric charge, obviously. This would be a layer inside the vehicle's armor. The outer layer would need to be penetrated, then the electrically-charged outer capacitor plate, then the dielectric material in between, and finally the capacitive metal held at ground only needs to be touched by incoming projectile and the electric arc jumping across the high electric potential of the capacitor would incinerate the incoming projectile, though the article doesn't use the word "incinerate" it just says dislodge. However depending on the size of the electric potential you can absolutely incinerate solid metal in an instant. Anyone who's worked on circuit breakers or transformers or other high-volt electrical systems can tell you this.
Diesel generators can already power electronics. Just use that to power the shield.
A re-usable armor shielding sounds nice tho
Jesus Christ, all this writing in a wrong thread.
How moronic am I? A lot!
This goes for
Why am I wasting time here, I got Diablo 4 to play...
I thought you were having a stroke. I was about to call for an ambulance. Thanks for clearing that up anon, I'm glad you're okay.
Dunno if you really intended that to be a joke for another thread or are just a back-pedalling b***h but it read completely like the kind of shit amermutts here write all the time unironically lol. Even got the "muh (anti)gravity", "muh triangular shape" and "obscure German surname effect" checked out.
Don't you hate it when your doorbell rings you check the doorbells and it's OP's pic staring at you with their stupid soulless eyes.
Its like ERA ... only more complex. So why?
because we star trek now
Advantages
>Weight
A key advantage of electric armour is its lighter weight.[3] Whereas ERA (explosive reacting armour) can add 10 to 20 tons of weight to a tank in explosives, electric armour could be effective with as little as a few tons of weight,[4][5][8] significantly reducing the load on the tank and allowing its weight capacity and engine power to be used elsewhere. In addition, electric armour could be mounted on other armoured vehicles such as infantry fighting vehicles and armoured personnel carriers[4][6][7][8] which had sacrificed the protection of heavy armour and ERA for mobility and lightness,[4][9] thus improving the survivability of troops onboard.
>Coverage
The light weight of electric armour also means that the benefits of its protection can be spread over the whole vehicle. Due to the weight of plating, conventional armour has to be uneven in its coverage, with tanks' thickest armour placed at the most exposed front, the sides less protected, and the top and rear often highly vulnerable in comparison. This fact can be exploited by an agile enemy capable of outflanking their opponents or ambushes such as those common in the asymmetric warfare of modern insurgency. Top attack weapons such as the US FGM-148 Javelin exploit this as well, using a missile which plunges from above to attack and penetrate the tank's thin top. By utilizing electric armour and applying it to the entire vehicle, these risks could be negated.[5]
>Operational safety
A secondary advantage is the increased safety of infantry and light vehicles operating near tanks with electric armour instead of ERA. Although ERA plates are intended only to bulge following detonation, the combined energy of the ERA explosive, coupled with the kinetic or explosive energy of the projectile, will frequently cause explosive fragmentation of the plate. The explosion of an ERA plate creates a significant amount of shrapnel, and those in the vicinity are in grave danger of fatal injury.
>Whereas ERA (explosive reacting armour) can add 10 to 20 tons of weight to a tank in explosives,
Stopped reading there.
ERA can go boom once. Electricity can go zap many times.
So approximately how much electricity would be needed to achieve this? Would there be a supercapacitor the volume of the entire engine in every equipped vehicle that buzzes menacingly and likely turns an unlucky tech or crew to ashes when the rat vomit rotten shit decides to goto ground without warning?
No idea about specifics like how much electricity it takes but given the platforms they listed (ships and tanks which come with hefty engines) likely quite a lot.
In the experiment I posted above they used 250kJ discharge to reduce RPG-7 like warhead (300mm penetration) to 100mm. 250kJ is about 130kg of capacitors (super capacitors wouldn't work they are too slow).
FYI Kontact-5 reduces rpg-7 penetration to about 15mm if jet passes 2 elements at angle, to about 40 mm if one element.
Electric ERA is literally le trash.
http://ciar.org/ttk/mbt/papers/isb2007/paper.x.isb2007.TB87.defeating_the_rpg7_threat_by_using_electric_power_in_reactive_armour_applications.voorde_burgt_jagt-deutekom.2007.pdf
Total trash, not even close to ubiquitous kontackt-5.
I I don't know anyone (who knows electricity) who would dare to write "operational safety" and "20kV" in one sentence.
>write "operational safety" and "20kV" in one sentence
I read the article you posted and it in fact did not mention "operational safety" in the same sentence as "20kv". In fact it did not mention "operational safety" at all. As an actual electrician who works on very high voltage systems, it's actual very easy to insulate high voltage equipment and high current conductive wiring, including unwanted inductive and capacitive effects on the surroundings. It's just a matter of quality design and proper operation. You're just trying to fear monger with "big number is scary" while shamelessly advertising technologically backward Russian armor which is completely ineffective against even previous-generation western weapons.
Nice try though you dumb zigger.
You write like gpt.
have you seen how spaced armour (slats) on vehicles looks like after a deployment?
if "proper operation" is "looks good on parades" then maybe....
Wasn't electric armor what made the crew disappear in the Philadelphia experiment? Seems dangerous unless it's been perfected.
No idea what you're talking about
Philadelphia experiment is fringe nutcase "ufo-technology made warship disappear but space israelite lizard conspiracy prevents people from knowing the truth" -level bullshit. Ignore anything that brings it up as an excuse to anything.
Very sad to people be proudly ignorant of our real history
If they can charge it just before impact it sounds like a good design. However without being able to keep it off most of the time it would seem that more fuel would be consumed. I'm not sure whether this electric armour or preexisting armour would be worse on logistics.
>If they can charge it just before impact it sounds like a good design. However without being able to keep it off most of the time it would seem that more fuel would be consumed.
That's not how electricity works.
Capacitors are very good at holding charge, but they take a lot of time to charge up. They can't do it in the microseconds before an impact, that's basically magic. Also, it does not take much energy to maintain the charge of a capacitor. The only energy requirements are to replace ambient losses, which are insignificant for the most part.
You can build up a massive charge by siphoning off a little energy over a long time, so it's actually logistically friendly.
ships? heard of salt water mist? that's pretty conductive
It was claimed to be the future 15-20 years ago. Nothing seemed to come from it, so it was probably snake oil like a lot of stuff that was being predicted/claimed at the time (e.g., Metal Storm). Maybe it was always a garbage idea, or maybe it's just harder to implement economically than was expected (like sheer-thickening fluid, which works just fine in the lab, but nobody's been able to incorporate it into armor).
More vaporware shit
Imagine trying to fix a vehicle like this in the field and you arc-flash your whole garage
It's just a moonshot moronic proposal on par with the iceberg aircraft carrier
Graphene aluminium iron nickel HYPERCAPACITOR juice lords, imagine the fricking smell after plasma burst.
I just can't see it working. You would need too much current to vaporize a copper jet, you couldn't fit that much power storage into a tank.
I wonder if this would ionize air and create toxic ozone locally?
Isn't that how that works? A massive charged plate in open air creates some quantity of toxic ozone?