Is a .357 lever action rifle “enough” for self defense in the woods/mountains of northern central Washington? I am going to be staying in a remote cabin that belongs to my family and the only rifle I own that I can legally bring into the state is a .357 Marlin 1894. Is that “enough” for any potential dangers innawoods (two legs, four legs, spooky eight legs etc)?
Nope, have fun dying
>have fun
With a .357 magnum lever gun he certainly will.
Yeah
357 is enough for anything this side of the cascades
It is, yes. .357 is only able to reach its full potential with a long barrel. Buy some +P .357 and you'll be more than fine. Even less then that would work. And as long as you aren't moronic in the woods you shouldn't run into something too bad anyway.
Here's your answer:
Since you already own the gun and you are well-familiar with it, make sure you have several ammo types, especially some heavy bullets in the 160 to 180 grain range loaded to P+. I like semi-jacketed soft points, but heavy hollow points are at least as good. If you can hit what you're shooting at, this will kill it in North America. The worst thing you can run into is a large, angry moose or polar bear in North America, and that's not happening in Washington state. Those might take two decent hits, but people have dropped pretty much every grizzly ever shot with .357 in one shot, from a handgun. Any barrel longer than about 14" is at least a 50% performance boost over a 4" wheelgat ... and more when you get into hot P+ loads.
This. If I were you I'd be grabbing the Underwood Angry Screwdrivers and thinking about other things.
.22lr has more energy than a longbow arrow. the biggest bear kill in history was done with a .22
if you're worried about whether or not .357 magnum - a steroid-injecting cartridge from 1930 meant to shoot cars - will work on bears, you are living in fear
Add a scope and you can frick anything up at any range.
>.357
>is it enough
for what? Rhinos?
Big calibers are a meme. Think. What cowboys were using were even less powerful than 9mm and they got by fine.
Any round beyond 9mm for human targets is memeing. A .22 can kill a full grown man if you shoot anywhere center mass or in the head.
Get an SMG it's just a lighter, cheaper more maneuverable AR
Imagine you are the dog, and you have just encountered a new mom elk or moose. It would be pretty sad, but .357 is plenty. You'd get two maybe three shots off. The more you hit with, the better your odds.
Why the frick is a dog loose outside? Give the fricking deer a gun.
>deer is completely fine with the cat
Interesting
>It would be pretty sad
No it wouldn't, lol, any animal that dares touch a superior deserves what it gets.
Deer wasn't fine with the cat and kept its eyes on it but lone dog definitely triggered it.
That post was actually made by the bear off that guy's phone. They like to be cheeky sometimes.
>attacking the doggo while leaving the cat free to molest bambi
Deersisters...
>for what? Rhinos?
how many rhinos are running around in the woods/mountains?
Ok noguns, time to pack it up.
This sounds like the newest CoD has a really good SMG and you based all your reasoning on that.
>Get an SMG it's just a lighter, cheaper more maneuverable AR
You were doing well, anon, and then you went and said that.
If you're up on the East side of the mountains (or in the foothills up there) and planning to be there after June, get a fricking snake gun. We have rattlers and they can get pretty uppity come summer. A .38 or .357 pistol with snake shells will do you fine. Once you cross the spine of the Cascades to the Western half of the state, though, the snakes kinda disappear.
If you hear what sounds like a woman screaming outside your cabin in the middle of the night, it isn't a woman and you should stay the Hell inside. Next morning be real careful around underbrush and always check the branches over any paths you're taking. If you're innawoods and you hear the screaming politely but firmly tell it to frick off and it usually will. No, this is not creepypasta bullshit. It's what cougars sound like when they're challenging something and want it to know how big their dicks are. Cougars >usually< don't frick with humans unless they're wounded, but if they do they like to drop out of trees or jump you from behind, so a couple rounds of ball ammo in the bottom of your revolver might also be useful.
>Cougars >usually< don't frick with humans unless they're wounded, but if they do they like to drop out of trees or jump you from behind
Yeah, they attack only when they are in danger or if they see human as an easy prey so sitting, lying on the ground or standing and not moving or making noise.
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The worst thing you can expect to find there are Seattlites, and they're no match for the lever gun.
.357 is good for anything south of Polar Bears. I'd upgrade to .45-70 if I was in Alaska though.
44 and 357 are the only rounds needed to be made. Fact.
I'm a leaf, not a Washingtonian, but close enough. I'd want an actual rifle cartridge if I was going to pack a rifle for innawoods defence, because it I ran into a pissed off skinwalker, then I don't want to rely on pistol caliber terminal ballistics to stop it.
gay no guns.
Let go of your PCC and take the 30-30 pill anon
.357 magnum carbine is certainly fine, but a .30-30 lever action is more fun than you can possibly imagine and it kills real good too.
.357 magnum in a 16" barrel is plenty powerful you dumb moron.
Suit yourself, but I'm taking a rifle all day. That's not exactly a controversial take.
isn't that where pic related took place? you'll probably be fine.
Uuh... if you zoom in its clearly a lizard like thing. And quite large too.
supposedly they move very quickly. I think they might be some kind of feral canadian but I'm not entirely sure.
It's important to remember if you're shooting 357 from a carbine defensively that pistol loads are meant to perform out of short barrels and may not perform the same out of a long gun. So make sure you bring a bear load suitable for your barrel length. I would think hunting forums like Rokslide would have threads on this, or maybe like Buffalo Bore's website
Does 30-30/30wcf have enough soul to kill a spooky thing? I know that 45/70 is ideal, but ive heard that 30 cal is pretty soulful too. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Too fast. Projectiles over 2000fps shit at cryptids are intercepted by some kind of shield.
This is the primary reason you don't read first hand accounts of encounters anymore, bullets too fast means the cryptid ensures there's no survivor.
45-70 it is.
I have several black powder firearms. Would you consider a dragoon loaded with silver tipped conicals soulful enough?
https://www.hunters-supply.com/454-cal-200-php-p-1653.html
Close range only of course, the conicals need to be loaded into the cylinder while it is removed from the gun. They dont quite preform as well with the short barrel and low twist rate.
I really need to get a more reliable 357. I foolishly settled on a rossi octagonal barrel and it hates flatnose and 38 special. It is a shame because its a good gun when you give it what it wants.
What 357 revolver do you have?
There are things you can do to 92s to make them more tolerant, but that requires correctly diagnosing what your gun is doing.
Its a pietta Great Western II. Dont have a pic handy cause Im phone postin from work rn.
>I foolishly settled on a rossi octagonal barrel and it hates flatnose and 38 special.
Interesting. My Rossi 92 isn't an octagonal barrel, but it eats everything, .357 Magnum or .38 Special.
>Too fast. Projectiles over 2000fps shit at cryptids are intercepted by some kind of shield.
Never ever heard that before. Cryptids are not physical creatures so they can take lethal damage and just keep moving around showing no signs of being wounded at all. Perhaps you thought they used some protective shield?
>not shooting holy black
sad. smoke=soul
>Its another "Suburbanites and citygays thinks bears are like an armored car" episode
More like a
>.357gays take the idea of somebody preferring something else as a personal attack episode
Where did the .357 users touch you on the doll?
What about 45lc?
>Luv me .357 Carbine.
>Luv Me .357 Revolver.
Need another .357 revolver so I have a pair.
Why not a 30-30? $350 for a marlin at your local Walmart. I found the fit and finish quite nice for what it is
What year is it?
For me, it’s gotta be the Rossi Ranch Hand in .44 Mag.
Make sure to take the Cowboy perk.
No, a cartel hitsquad will be looking for someone in witness protection in that area that looks a lot like you. They will be armed with fully semi automatic assault weapons that have braces with shoulder things that go up and barrel shrouds, along with high capacity clips and cop killer armor piercing bullets. If you just take that old hunk of junk with you, you will die.
no
Take the ammo sharing pill, anon.
>Henry Big boy X
I'd cum in it
Yes
not even close. if you arent bringing at least a barrett semi auto .50 bmg you are a samsquanchs breakfast and a little cucked b***h.
Self defense how is that even possible you will die without at least NODs Comtacs and a PEQ 15 on that thing.
What madness do you think you could get away with a light handy rifle? Do you even lift bro? 100% NGMI. you need sleeve tats a supressor and at least 4 things hanging off the midwest levergat rail.
As long as you are not pissing off moose 357 will handle your saftery just fine in a nice snag free easy to pack and handle rifle. the only thing is maybe a light would be of benefit if you dont have a good headlamp or pistol light for bump in the night shit.
I tried firing at a bear once, and each round richochet’d off. The bear smiled like a marxist and said, “pistol caliber ammo” before devouring me. Don’t make the same mistake I did.
did you die?