Is 7 kilometers (~4.3 miles) in two weeks an suitable rate of advance for the second army in the world?

Is 7 kilometers (~4.3 miles) in two weeks an suitable rate of advance for the second army in the world?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    TWO MORE YEARS

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      3.12 years, to be exact.

      Assuming the rate of 7 km per 2 weeks.
      It's 570 km to Kyiv. So it's going to take 1140 days to get to Kyiv at that rate.

      3.12 years. .

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    We should pretend like it's absolutely devastating.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      OH HOLY SHIT IN 10 YEARS THEIR GONNA BE IN KIEV
      WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ITS OVER

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      we should keep pretending russia is out of munitions and collapsing as we speak while ukraine is routing the orcs and need no serious help nor western involvement

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They are getting serious help.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          no they are getting token symbolic help to not trigger russia too much

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >while ukraine is routing the orcs and need no serious help nor western involvement
        weird cope, shitskin.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        if russia is not running out of good munitions and modern artillery...why we see less and less RU bombings? Why are MSTA SPG far less than 10 months ago' You remember the Kyiv front? With entire batteries firing in a line? Where are those if RU doesnt have issues?

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Shiiieeeeeet, they gonna kill ourboy Julian. Nafo transvestites know no chill when it comes to snitches.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry. The ones making threats on twitter are the ones who won't do shit.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it's certainly better than losing 652860km2 in 20 years

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That's all 30k VDV Surivikin pulled out of Kherson supported by 50k Wagner achieved?

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It is when you have 1/3rd of the whole Ukraine army defending Bakhmut and surrounding areas with their best units.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      [Citation Needed]

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You can purchase open source satellite imagery from the last 12 hours and identify the units yourself, by hand.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          thats not a source retard

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >H-heh, the proofs are right there in the satellite imagery, t-trust me, I checked. W-what? "Can you see them"? Uhhhhhh, no, because reasons.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >eight brigades
      >1/3
      Damn it's rally over. We must submit to Russia. America has clearly shown itself a paper tiger.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        First off, it's 16 brigades. And Ukraine brigades are BIG and HEAVY even by NATO standards.

        Second, these are their best cadre units. It's not some shitters from Azov or territorial defence Volkssturm. These are their best equipped mech. and armoured units.

        Third, they've been bled white here by 40-year old prisoners fighting for their emancipation, with some Ukraine units down 70% of their original strength.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >16 brigades
          where in the fuck did you get that number from?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You got to be in the know.
            But I'd say of the OSINT people, Wolski has the best bird's eye view of the situation.
            His latest forces disposition in this video, but there are no closed captions yet, so you need to understand Polak:

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              the map in your screenshot shows Russia having more personnel around bakhmut
              please learn to read nato symbols

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Where did I imply ANYTHING about the size of the opposing force you fucking chimp?
                It's obvious to ANYONE with a brain that isn't a chimpanzee that the attacking force must have a numerical advantage of some kind.
                Nothing but subhuman chimps on this subreddit.. I swear to God, I could be doing something useful, like fixing the tow hitch on my car...

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                > gets btfo
                > moves the goalpost

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Chimpbrain can't read
                >BTFOs himself
                >I WUZ MERELY PRETENDING TO BE A RETARDED CHIMP

                You're done here.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You forgot to mention reddit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >tow hitch
                >on my car
                thanks for confirming you're some unskilled labour shitskin thirdie barely making ends meet.
                Bet its a fucking skoda as well or some other shit ass vw copypaste

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Weird cope.
                Yes, I have a truck and it has a trailer hitch that I need to wire to tow things...

                Are you some eternally butthurt Slavic shit between Germany and Russia by any chance?
                Let's see the ownership papers to your personal vehicle.
                I'm betting you ride some cuck shoe box Fiat or a fruity bicycle to your wage cage.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                forgot to say but all units combined in your pic barely make up 4 brigades total yet you claimed there were 16 brigades

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Lrn2count

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                those are individual units on screen you retard not fully brigades

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                THE VATNIK STILL REFUSES TO LEARN MILITARY SYMBOLOGY

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              He also said that all the brigades fighting there didn't commit their full strength and that their presence on the frontline was rotational. This isn't "massive casualties, the front is collapsing", this is business as usual.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >"massive casualties, the front is collapsing"
                We've been hearing this so often no one will believe it even if it does happen. We heard it at the start of the war, we heard it after the Kyiv front collapsed, the first few months of the war with the ever-shrinking cauldron, when Severodonestk was lost in late June/early July, after the Ukies drove the Russians out of Lyman and Izyum, after they drove them out of Kherson, with Bahkmut, and now with Soledar. As always, there's lots of impressive maps with impressive arrows, and even more impressive casualty figures. All forgotten within a span of days.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This really is the crux of the issue with Russian claims. Vatniks have been lying so much that no one had any reason to believe them even if they're telling the truth.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >what is unit rotation

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Completely incomprehensible to Russia

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              There's like 5 bigrades at best in your picture.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine brigades are BIG and HEAVY
          Don't cum in your panties spoonboy.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >some Ukraine units down 70% of their original strength
          very interesting, where can I learn more about this information the Western media is trying to hide?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You trust the Lying Press to accurately report on Ukraine setbacks?
            I've got some Enron stock to sell you.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              so which sources do you recommend to stay informed?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                If you speak Polish, Wolski:
                https://www.youtube.com/@wolskiowojnie

                I think he has a Twitter which would at least let you translate some stuff, but I don't follow it.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >THIS is the military leader defeating the 2nd army in the world
              Lmao

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Zelensky
                >Military leader

                He's the marketing guy. He makes exactly zero military decisions.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                He's actually really fucking excellent at it too. The guy has normies in the palm of his hand and it makes vatniks and contrarians seethe so fucking much.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, it's because the oligarchic media controls what westernerers see and think. It has nothing to do with z-dogg being particularly witty

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Marina Abrahmovic
                >WEF
                >Dude
                Back to discord

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                demoralized

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                joooooooooish

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What do any of those images have to do with this thread? Did you forget your meds?
                > it's because the oligarchic media controls what westernerers see and think.
                lol lmao

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >it's because the oligarchic media controls what westernerers see and think.

                Ahh yes all several thousand of them, from giant news corporations to mum and pop community publications of different ideologies across the west. Its all obviously an anti vatnik conspiracy.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                if this is true, then its more sad than anything. This is not someone that wants to go to war.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The commission rejected him anyway.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Why on incel smegma z ofcourse. It has all the accurate information HATO is keeping from the world

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, of course vanya, is great victory for Russia. You forgot to mention how they captured 3 Zelenskys and defeated not one but two NATOs in one sitting.

          For real though, how's it feel being even stupider than the orc spawn your bullshit is aimed at?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Posts some literally who Telegram channel of shitflinging idiots
            >Hurp-de-durpity-doo

            Redditbrain.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Ha, classic Serj

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The fuck? Ukrainian brigades still carry a lot of soviet-remnant organization, which means smaller sub unit-sizes. Even the premier 92/93 brigades capped out at 3900 men, compared to 4500 men for an SBCT.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Ukraine has weird hybrid brigades and they're massive, up to 5,000 people. Pic related.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I agree. Ukraine is on the verge of total collapse. Russia should keep launching unsupported human wave attacks, only with their best, most experienced units instead of untrained mobiks and convicts.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          yes, unironically.

          Within half a year they'd have threatened if not disrupted the supply of every division on the region, forcing a retreat or a last stand - no different than what ukrs did to kherson.

          Don't act retarded, russians are remembering how 2 war.

          >70 original strength.
          recoverable tho'
          highly unlikely it goes down.

          real question is what happens next. Say bakhmut is abandoned, M03 left. Where does the war move to?

          Will the war become a tug of war between dnipro and dombass cities?

          I'd though this was gonna be the end of it. I guess Russians really love wars. It's surreal to see their army basically collapse to WWII tech/org levels and nobody minding it.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Within half a year they'd have threatened if not disrupted the supply of every division on the region
            I recommend you look at a map

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              They reach M03 road which is like 20 kms from soledar and bakhmut will go from "bad" to "worse".

              Ukrs are no strangers to controlled retreat. that's been the rule of the game in the dombass front since february.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Again. I recommend you look at a map.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                ok

                https://i.imgur.com/GRvvpZS.png

                Is 7 kilometers (~4.3 miles) in two weeks an suitable rate of advance for the second army in the world?

                here
                tell me where M03 is.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Look at a map. Tell me how many roads go into Bakhmut.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                two major ones, easily recheable within a few months going @ 8km/week.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                0 Russian controlled ones (from the west obviously).

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yep. Three roads.

                two major ones, easily recheable within a few months going @ 8km/week.

                Get back to us in a couple months.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >in a couple months
                So after another Ukrainian offensive taking control of major cities after which nobody will be able to remember the name of this "Soledar"? Reminds me of your last big victory. What was that metropolis called? I think it was something like Piss Key?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Im not a vatnik

                yes yes i know you get paid per post but the topic matters more than your opinion.
                8km/w is nothing to scoff at in a war with entrenched positions so close to the objective.
                get better shilling material if you don't want people to call you an idiot.
                or better, get the fuck out of the site (and take the vatniks with you)

                No, in the year 2022 8km gains after months of combat are utterly pathetic. Its WW1 stuff. What makes it even more pathetic is that the gains are pointless. Hence why I told you to look at a map.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >in the year 2022 8km gains after months of combat are utterly pathetic.
                t. his only knowledge of war comes from world powers curbstomping camel fuckers

                not even that, if you knew that, you'd realize those conflicts are only fast due to total air superiority that neither country here has.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >no no no a superpower devolving into a ww1 clusterfuck is just fine
                Jesus christ this fucking cope. That's an even BIGGER indictment of how fucking pathetic Russia is.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >russia
                >superpower
                said literally no one ever

                they are just big enough to ignore blunders what would cost wars to smaller countries.

                Shills are human trash. Do you honestly don't feel a single pang of guilt as you use the deaths and miserly of thousands to literally lie to people?
                Vatniks at least have the excuse of being piss poor thirld worlders. what's yours?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >said literally no one ever
                Said literally everyone until February of last year.

                >Do you honestly don't feel a single pang of guilt as you use the deaths and miserly of thousands to literally lie to people?
                What am I being untruthful about? That 7km in 2 weeks in 2022 is pathetic? That seizing soledar is a completely pointless exercise? That there are multiple MSR's going to and from bakhmut?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No, everyone has said Russia is a regional power ever since 1991.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Fine
                >A regional power devolving into a ww1 clusterfuck is just fine

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                yes yes i know you get paid per post but the topic matters more than your opinion.
                8km/w is nothing to scoff at in a war with entrenched positions so close to the objective.
                get better shilling material if you don't want people to call you an idiot.
                or better, get the fuck out of the site (and take the vatniks with you)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >First off, it's 16 brigades.

          Ukrainian frontline strength at Bakhmut never exceeded 8 brigades.

          >And Ukraine brigades are BIG and HEAVY even by NATO standards.

          They're not.

          >Second, these are their best cadre units.

          Wrong again.

          >These are standard mech. and armoured units with no outstanding qualities or particularily special equipment.

          FTFY.

          >Third, they've been bled white here

          Incorrect, Ukrainian casualties have been light at best and unit experience and coherence has been consistently preserved through regular rotation of units.

          >40-year old prisoners fighting for their emancipation

          Those all died long ago, followed by thousands of mobiks, Wagner professionals and VDV shocktroops dying on top of them.

          >with some Ukraine units down 70% of their original strength

          According to outright vatmoron propaganda only. The single Ukrainian unit I can remember to have taken losses like that? A fucking PLATOON that got extremely unlucky. LMAO.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      hnnnnggg

      sexo

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        ukraiinian women are the most beautiful in the world and also the best cam models according to stripchat, lucky us boys 😛

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          > ukraiinian women

          then why is there a z on her left sleeve?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            western russians are ukrainians

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Maryana is as Russian as can be.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, typical Russian. Her face is pumped full of chemicals, she wears a pound of makeup and she looks part mongol.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              she does look like shit in this pic, i guess you're right

              lol
              Piggers be mad jelly.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                as I've said on other thread, imagine we had present say social media during the invasion of Iraq and there were retards over there running around with Goodfellas or Tony Montana patches acting as war correspondents

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                She's not really a war correspondent.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Then who the fuck is she?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Who? You mean what. She's an activist.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              But this subreddit's sister board is /a/ where it's all about submissive moron waifus, no?
              All of a sudden you don't like Mongolian women? What happened?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >subreddit
                You need to go back.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                He realized they would never want him.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I think Russian women go way too far with plastic surgery and I have a fucking bimbo fetish.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                patrician

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            she does look like shit in this pic, i guess you're right

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            As in gets raped daily?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      wow really?
      If that's true why hasn't kiev fallen if russia knows where 1/3rd of ukraine is including all their best units and they collapse under a single wagner batallion?

      Oh right, cause its classic projection and its actually 1/3rd of russias army and best at bahkmut.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Because this isn't really a territorial war being waged, its an attritional war. Russia wants to destroy Ukraine's military. What would be the purpose of "taking Kiev" when it would cost more men to take and hold it, at no additional strategic value? Then when your forces are exhausted, you lose that territory anyways.
        Instead you would want your adversary committing 1/3rd of HIS forces trying to hold Bakhmut. That way he loses men and equipment, which in turn will also allow you to advance.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          This is a horrible strategy though.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Not when you have a bigger military and aren't dependent on outside support like Ukraine is.

            Russian doesn't get to play the attritional game, they failed at maneuvreand now they are stuck into it, with the attrition gradient largely against them.

            >doesn't get to
            Hey however you gotta kope right? Sucks so many Ukrainians gotta die so that Russia will still own Crimea and the Donbas, but hey at least Ukraine is now a liberal "democracy" with gay pride parades and foreign gnomish rulers. Thats based.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Russia will still own Crimea and the Donbas
              Even if that was so Russia maintains maixmalist goals in Ukraine and by that measure it would be a tremendous defeat provided the high price they paid so far without any strategic victory.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Fighting a war of attrition when your foe is on the defensive and has outside help is a bad idea. The Russians can at best hope for 1:1 casualties, probably a lot worse, and can't touch the massive flow of replacements and upgrades into Ukraine.

                Everyone wants to talk about the "high price" in men that Russia is paying for this war. Let's open a history book shall we?
                Traditionally Russia throws massive waves of men at all adversaries and this strategy has proven effective over the course of history. You all want to talk about how Russia can sustain that, but you never speak about how Ukraine/the west can continue to sustain these losses. I do not think the collective west has the intestinal fortitude to send its own men to die in Ukraine, so this is really a test of how long Ukraine can stick it out with some small amount of foreign volunteers/mercs.
                I think Russia looks better if thats the strategy.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Traditionally Russia throws massive waves of men at all adversaries and this strategy has proven effective over the course of history.
                Lay of HoI4, learn something about demographics and than come back.
                Besides it was only effective because they could arm those men. They can't now.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Traditionally Russia throws massive waves of men at all adversaries and this strategy has proven effective over the course of history
                So what you mean is that even when Russia wins on the battlefield their performance is shitty. They only got away with that when they had at least one western power backing them which is not the case now.
                In this war Ukraine clearly has better medvac and capacity for maneuvering and compensate for disadvantage in artillery fire. If there is any doubt who is losing in the attrition game
                https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/01/13/gap-in-military-strength-between-ukraine-and-russia-gradually-decreasing-infographics/

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >euromaidanpress.com

                are you an actual shill or just retarded?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >posts some Ukrainian WordPress propaganda site
                >"see look it says rite thar, Ukrainia is win"
                gotcha

                >Oryx is le propaganda
                Russian disinfo agents are in no position to whine about sources.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You're right, let's stop speculating, because it goes both ways.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The infographs in my source were produced with OSINT data which is generally reliable, no speculation here

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >posts some Ukrainian WordPress propaganda site
                >"see look it says rite thar, Ukrainia is win"
                gotcha

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Are you retarded? Birth rates in Russia are extremely low, so no, they can't sustain it, because unlike in the past, their population is not going to replenish itself.
                Furthermore, they take far more casualties than Ukraine, and no war is about literally exterminating every single enemy unit. The Germans still had millions of soldiers when the war ended.
                Russia is not only getting bled out in terms of soldiers, but also equipment, and this is also something they don't have the ability to replenish, at least not at the rate that they're losing it. Meanwhile, Ukraine is getting a steady trickle of equipment, which they don't even have to produce or pay for, while their units are getting vastly superior training in western countries.
                The force multiplier keeps tipping in Ukraine's favor, and the only thing Russia has an advantage in, is manpower, and even that is temporary.
                There's also the fact that the Russian economy can't sustain this forever, while the west will simply adapt given a bit of time.
                It's really just about attrition, and while this has usually played in Russia's favor in the past, the factors that allowed them to rely on human waves no longer exist, given that they have neither the men to sacrifice, the industry to produce enough weapons or allies to create a second front.

                If the west got involved directly, Russia would be crushed with minimal casualties, but obviously that's not going to happen because of the risk of nuclear war.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Losing thousands of men to take a village is a good thing actually.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Well it is if it's slavs.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Fighting a war of attrition when your foe is on the defensive and has outside help is a bad idea. The Russians can at best hope for 1:1 casualties, probably a lot worse, and can't touch the massive flow of replacements and upgrades into Ukraine.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Nothing wrong in wanting to join the civilized world and ditch the cultureless shithole without future of a neighbor that harasses you.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              nobody cares about your paranoias

              [...]

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Now Russia's war goal is to hold the territory they had prior to February 24th.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Russian doesn't get to play the attritional game, they failed at maneuvreand now they are stuck into it, with the attrition gradient largely against them.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I love how you gays switched narrative to "it's actually beneficial for Russia to lose thousands of men" when a) it's obviously stupid strategy even when you have "sub-Saharan Africa" tier demographics (Russia does not btw) b) it's actually pretty humiliating for Russia because they admit, all they have left is worthless meat c) mere six months ago you were telling us constantly about genious Russian manouvering resulting in cauldrons upon couldrons

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            But they didn't lose thousands of men taking Soledar, they lost a bunch of Wagner penal battalion guys they sent into a minefield as literal cannon fodder.
            By contrast Ukraine lost some 700-1200 men trying to hold and retreat from Soledar. I can see this is very painful for you lol.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Russia got at the very first time least 4000 KIA in Soledar. Which actually makes sense once you realize Russia stopped deploying BTGs in that direction and launching instead squad-sized infantry attacks with no mechanized support.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >just throw out some wild huge figure of KIA
                >"this makes perfect sense"
                I guess if you're a delusional chud it does. Hey remember how you all said ALL of the VDV were killed, like thousands of guys, months ago?
                Hows that egg on your face seeing VDV guys taking Soledar from the south to support Wagner? If you constantly lie and make shit up it your posts read like a goofy parody.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Cope
                >That is in line with US estimates that 4,000 of Wagner’s 50,000 mercenaries have been killed on the Soledar-Bakhmut front line, with 10,000 injured.
                https://www.ft.com/content/d759e24b-dd48-4adc-a0ae-7e53b89e5231

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                the US department of defense also speculated that Ukraine has lost some 100k men so far, so were they also correct then?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                100k casualties? That’s probable.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, total losses. But a lot of those losses are sanitary losses because Ukraine has better medvac while those wounded Russians have a greater likelihood of getting 200d because of poor medvac.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >If you constantly lie and make shit up it your posts read like a goofy parody.
                Yeah, so why do you keep doing that?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Sources on your numbers? RT? Wagner telegram? RWA? Intel Slava Z, perhaps? Because truth is, both of us know jackshit about real figures but there are multiple instances of Russian human waves caught on footage.
              All while you pretend that Russians lost only few hundred prisoners, no biggie, while Ukies lost 1k SoF.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                you said you had footage of Russian human wave attacks in Ukraine, not a photo of a bunch of bodies. show me the footage gay. shouldn't be hard to pull up, right?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                vatnik falseflag trying to claim lymans retreat as soledar and making ukies look stupid

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I don't save this kind of thing. I'm talking about videos captured by drone like that one old Russian blowing his head of laying in the field littered with Russian corpses.
                Besides you were first to claim Ukies lost 1k men in Solesar withoit any sort of proof. So may I ask for some. I saw just a footage of some stairs to basmenet with five (or so) dead piled up.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I like how vatmorons are claiming they killed 1k+ Ukrainians in just Soledar (city of 10k) and only showed like 6 bodies. The town should be completely littered with dead Ukies or there should be hundreds of POWs. Fucking 80 iq reasoning skills.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                show me footage of this "human wave attack"

                thx

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Can I just show you tens of dead vatmorons after a failed human wave attack?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Nothing anyone says is going to convince you. How about we wait two weeks and see who holds Soledar?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Except they did lose thousands of men failing to take Soledar. Thousand sof mobiks, Wagner professionals and VDV. The penals were all killed at Bakhmut months ago already, Vanya.

              Ukraine killing 10+ Russians for every casualty they took while STILL contesting Soledar is only painful for you, vatnik. Hence why you are yet again projecting like this.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >failing to

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >trading ground for men
                Pretty sure that was a pro-tip from some Chinese guy like a thousand years ago.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >more Röpcke
                >And it's the same copemap that shows western Soledar STILL contested!

                LMAO, nice own goal, vatmoron.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >it's actually beneficial for Russia to lose thousands of men
            It is beneficial - for us. It means that Russia continues to wipe out their young men and will start drafting their old men soon. The faster it goes, the faster Russia an heros.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, it is an attritional war. The joke is that AFU is stronger than in February 2022, while professional Russian military is pretty much gone and Russian AFV stockpiles are like 30%-50% exhausted.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >muh attrittional war

          Why yes, charging frontally into dug-in defenses and losing 10+ men for every casualty you inflict is totally how you win an attrittional war! Your genius easily equals that of Luigi Cadorna!

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          If only russia was as good at moving everything else as they were at moving goalposts.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Everyone wants to talk about the "high price" in men that Russia is paying for this war. Let's open a history book shall we?
          Traditionally Russia throws massive waves of men at all adversaries and this strategy has proven effective over the course of history. You all want to talk about how Russia can sustain that, but you never speak about how Ukraine/the west can continue to sustain these losses. I do not think the collective west has the intestinal fortitude to send its own men to die in Ukraine, so this is really a test of how long Ukraine can stick it out with some small amount of foreign volunteers/mercs.
          I think Russia looks better if thats the strategy.

          >Russians consider national suicide in a war of attrition a worthwhile effort
          >No matter who 'wins' the war Russia will be Northern North Korea with a culled population
          >This whole thing cost the west some 1980s IFVs and a few bullets
          CIA, I kneel. There is no way this thing plays into our hand that perfectly without some of their meddling.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Which is why Russia is making massive gains in other regions that now lie relatively undefended.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >1/3rd of the whole Ukraine army

      Somehow it keeps getting more and more, and yet the Russians remain completely incapable of not losing ground elsewhere, to say nothing of actually gaining it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >, and yet the Russians remain completely incapable of not losing ground elsewhere
        Every active front is currently going the russian's way

        (it's just bakhmut, dombass and kremina)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Every active front is currently going the russian's way
          They are barely moving despite a massive expenditure of men and munitions. While at the same time modern Western equipment and NATO trained Ukrainians flows into Ukraine at greater volumes, while conversely Russia is scraping together mobiks and ancient tanks for their next big "push".

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          How is Kreminna going Russia's way?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Ukrs got stopped in their tracks in a front that 2 months ago was considered all but lost.
            Unexpected tbh. Guess dropping thousands of retards without orders and rusty weapons does have SOME combat efficacy.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              They recently reached the outskirts of Kremmina and reppeled attacks there. The advance is sluggish but it's an advance nevertheless. Also Russian command abandoned the city a few weeks ago so they do expect something happen as the terrain becomes more conductive of mechanized thrusts

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >They recently reached the outskirts of Kremmina and reppeled attacks there.
                Thyey reached the outskirts of kremina months ago then didn't move. Kremina has started advancing backwards for a week at LEAST
                why do you lie in a board of autists that are checking this war 24/7? Lying won't help the ukrainians, retard. Have some respect for the dead who died fighting there.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Thyey reached the outskirts of kremina
                No they didn't, there was recon units operating around Kreminna after the Balaklia counter offensive but not a sustained attempt to take the city and its environs. Also, only recently Ukraine cut managed to reach a section of the R66 highway
                >Kremina has started advancing backwards for a week at LEAST
                Wrong, Dibrova and Kuzmyne are now grey zones and Ukraine operates in the forest and outskirts of the city.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                And why did they choose to not advance I wonder?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Popivka, Novoselivske, Chervonopopivka, Ploshanka, Dibrova, Kuzmyne were all in Russian control not long ago.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                If you count shithole village then also count all the shithole villages in the same front Ukraines abandoned.

                The kremina offensive was a grand stroke, but it had limits that crossing would mean overextending. Ukraines did not ignore this, but it also means attrition is back on the menu.
                We are down to cold hard numbers and Russians have problem they flat out don't give a shit about meatgrinders.

                As fas as I understand both Ukraine and Russia are building up for some sort of elaborate play within a few months, Russia going All Out For Real (And Belarussia Totally Will Fall in Line I Swear), but in this interim between offensives, the usual russian grind continues it's advance

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                These villages are important to cut the R66 highway.
                >Ukraines did not ignore this, but it also means attrition is back on the menu.
                I mean, Russia had to stabilize the defense line somewhere, the Svatove-Kremmina-Starobilsk triangle is critical to supply Luhansk and probably the only serious defense before reaching the city.
                >As fas as I understand both Ukraine and Russia are building up for some sort of elaborate play within a few months
                Russia is definitely going for a decisive effort, it's not clear whether it will be a spoiling effort in Luhanks or a major offensive elsewhere.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Except for the part where every active front is currently going agianst the Russians. They're stuck in an endless, lopsided meatgrinder at Soledar and Bakhmut, and continually losing ground or in a stalemate everywhere else.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >and continually losing ground or in a stalemate everywhere else.
            Factually wrong
            >They're stuck in an endless, lopsided meatgrinder at Soledar and Bakhmut
            Wasting life is how russians win battles are they are proving it before our eyes.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Factualyl correct, you mean. Russia is slowly, but continually losing ground. Deal with it.

              >Wasting life is how russians win battles

              Only when they are bankrolled by America. At the current rate, the Ukrainians will exterminate every single last military-age male Russian alive before running out of steam. You're gonna get mobilised, Vanya, and you're gonna die at Bakhmut like all your friends. Deal with it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia is slowly, but continually losing ground.
                Not since two months, are you bllind?
                Slava Ukraini but also Slava Not Being an Myopic Retard

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yes since two months. They've lsot more gorund on other fronts than they gained at Bakhmut and Soledar evne during that. Deal with it, Vanya.

                You are presenting a false dichotomy. Ukrainian tanks and IFVs are taken out equally often. But there are multiple examples. Merkava in Lebanon. Leopards in Syria, Abrahams in Syria/Iraq, Abrahams in Yemen. In many cases with western advisers holding their hands during the operation. And even the coalition loses in Iraq were significant considering total air superiority, favorable terrain, old systems of the opponent and most enemy troops deserting/surrendering without a fight. The combined arms turned out to be of mediocre success in Korea and even less successful in the case of Vietnam.
                The Russian experience in Afghanistan was similar. Successful „combined“ arms was almost always infantry, artillery and helicopters (plus other air support) and not tanks. The tank nerds and the industry shills for these mobile coffins always come up with another cope.
                >not enough mine clearing (when the argument for the tank is it being resistent to mines and other obstacles on the ground)
                >not enough infantry at the flanks and with the tank to take out anti tank guided missile teams of the enemy (when the argument is tank that they can just rush trough the fire of the artillery and destroy the fortified positions to open it up for the infantry)
                Not to start with modern guided artillery rounds, smart mines, IEDs, drones, loitering ammunition etc.
                Which in their mind is already dealt with some additional amour (making the coffin less mobile) or more defense systems making it even more impossible for infantry to be around tanks.
                They will figure it out. But until than it’s another day another cope.
                I have yet to see video footage of a tank making an important break through in the entire Ukraine war. Because I have watched a lot of footage and the best I‘ve seen is it being successfully used as line of sight fire support. If the initiative was tank based it always ended with the tank(s) being disabled or retreating.

                >Ukrainian tanks and IFVs are taken out equally often.

                May we see them?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >They've lsot more gorund on other fronts than they gained at Bakhmut and Soledar evne during that.
                May I see it?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Take a look at the maps outside your zoomed-in view on Soledar, Vanya. North at Kreminna alone saw more territorial advances by the ukrianians than everything the Russkies have done in the last 2 months.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >May we see them?
                My bad; you are right that never happened. Moskau will fall next month.
                If you haven’t seen Ukrainian tanks, IVFs and APCs destroyed en mass our conversation is mostly pointless because you know next to nothing about the war.

                Oh wait, you're the "MBTs are totally useless, believe me and not your lying eyes and literally every single military in the world!" schizo who wants to tread the footsteps of Sparky.

                Yeah, just kys.

                Clam down I can explain it to a newcomer like you. The reason is twofold tanks and IFVs are decent against people who only have light weapons (that’s basically the own population). The main reason however is psychological. Often soldiers aren’t the brightest bunch so they won’t figure things out too easily. Be it as it may even they are usually aware enough not to run directly into the most intensive fire. But the philosophy/doctrine of combined arms is not try to avoid these areas and be smart about it, but to send lots of people directly into it. This for the most part only works by sitting them into something „protective“. You give them a sense of protection (even though it isn’t really there) - somehow you need to get them to the frontline were you antiquated concepts tell you they should be.
                The biggest joke is believing an M113 is going to protect you from anything but somebody experimenting with his side arm.
                War is usually also fought with ulterior motives you probably couldn’t even start to fathom, so you won’t understand the big picture or why particular doctrines are still around.
                Well it’s probably already too nuanced and is only going to disturb you, so feel free rant a little bit about schizos.
                And keep loving tanks and IVFs to their bits and pieces, because that’s how they are eventually going to end up anyway.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      First off, it's 16 brigades. And Ukraine brigades are BIG and HEAVY even by NATO standards.

      Second, these are their best cadre units. It's not some shitters from Azov or territorial defence Volkssturm. These are their best equipped mech. and armoured units.

      Third, they've been bled white here by 40-year old prisoners fighting for their emancipation, with some Ukraine units down 70% of their original strength.

      https://i.imgur.com/NtHPgiW.png

      Ukraine has weird hybrid brigades and they're massive, up to 5,000 people. Pic related.

      Even if its granted that Ukraine has 16 brigades in the Bakhmut area (which is a stretch), and a Ukrainian Brigade would be 5,000 people, that's still 80,000 soldiers. You'd be a bit fucking dull to think that Ukraine only has like 240,000~ in its land army right now. And if Ukraine does, then the Russian army is literally performing worse than apes right now. A moron caliphate in the Congo would probably be able to make more progress than the Russians are currently.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure that's true.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Loses 7km in two weeks
    >"OH MY GOD THEY NEED REINFORCEMENT PRONTO!"
    lmao Ukies could careless
    make a thread when they actually start encircling bakhmut

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Shall we defend in unprepared open fields
      >Or shall we defend from the other side of the river, from our prepared defensive line, on a high ground.

      I guess we'll never know

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    russian soldiers celebrating the great victory!
    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1615015643895537664

    Fireworks:
    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1615008398885457920

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >losing against this

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >more boxes = bigger numbers
      i see the big red arrow logic is alive and well

      also lol at those shopped NATO symbols

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        they even included all the secret biolabs

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's a joke image someone on here made to take the piss

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Look under Kalinina
      >Its the Pisskey Unit
      holy shit Russians are doomed

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      lmao
      How many units were there in the original pic
      Everytime I have seen this someone has added more

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What's the source of these copium images?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      > forgets to photoshop unit sizes
      lol shitskin

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >each ukranian gets their own box on the map
      >not a single russian gets theirs when they die.
      This is the life in ruski mir.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >not a single star of david on the ukrainian side
      You tried.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      First it was the Chornobaivka temporal anomaly. Then the town of Pisky existing in multiple places at once. Now the 1st Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler from a parallel universe where Nazi Germany is in NATO has appeared near Chasiv Yar.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I know this is the bait image, but can somebody add some sci-fi units or something into it somewhere? Like a battalion of Spartans or Imperial Guard or something on Ukraine's side. Just a cheeky one or two.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        2 weeks of MS paint later.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Russia needs some Waagh banners pasted around.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I really don't know how many layers of reverse-bait this is

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Kek
      Amazing how many people fall for obvious bait posting. Also the edits are pretty funny. 7/10 post.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Fixed/ Updated

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Is 7 kilometers (~4.3 miles) in two weeks an suitable rate of advance for the second army in the world?
    In 1917? Yes.
    In 2023? No.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Well I'm not going to let this opportunity slide by and not complain over NATO falling asleep after Kherson. Quite frankly it's getting ridiculous at this point. After every Ukrainian success western powers just falls asleep for about three months and let the Russians recover. First everybody spent three months after Kyiv twinging their toes until Severaldonuts fell before howitzers were sent. Then Lysichansk fell so quickly which was a big enough shocker to allow HIMARS to be sent. Then things started going well again and everybody went to sleep for five months letting Russia bombard the entire country and reform their army. For real the US has several hundred HIMARS and yet they can't spare more than sixteen to battle Russia. Nor can they spare anything besides the bare basic missiles. I'm guessing the arrival of Bradleys and MBTs will stabilize things again for a while, everybody will fall asleep and Russia will be allowed to rebuild their army for the fourth time now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      100% this, it's a bunch of half measures a couple months late. The west is dragging the war by dripping support and letting the ruskies slowly get their shit together

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The thing is, Russia didn't reform anything, instead they brough some troops from Kherson and concetrated enough force this time with Wagnerites and separatists to have a large scale effect (which they failed to do around Pavlivka). And much like Severodonetsk the russians are culiminating prematurely before getting any operational gains of highly attritional battles. I agree western support should be better syncronized with Ukraine's requests but right now the West is doing things on time to prepare Ukraine for a major counteroffensive in spring, and they might be able to breaktrough the Svatove-Kreminna line before spring.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's worth keeping in context that all this hubub is over a satellite village to a medium-sized town falling to the Russians. I agree the west should open up the floodgates, but the the scale of this setback should be kept in mind.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's all a huge marketing campaing, but not for the submoron army.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      At this point I'm just assuming that the R*ssian claim of HATO intending to bleed R*ssia dry and thus keeping the good stuff from the Ukies so they don't win too quickly is actually 100% true.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        yeah this seems true at this point. NATO not sending Leopards in Autumn 2022 makes no sense...after the RU collapse in Kharkiv, if the UA had had more tanks and planes they would have wiped out the Russians...

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >2 weeks
    They've been going at that area for 7 months.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    entirety of iraq rolled over for americans in the same amount of time.
    And iraq is not even on the same continent as america.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the more correct assumption that they fought a withdrawal from Soledar? If there was an acutal break in the lines the Russians would go faster than 500 meters a day.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They probably decided to pull out about a week ago, ambushed the Russians two or three times (center, southern approach on the west side, northern approach on the west side) and fucked off to the hills when the Russians established a better grip on their own side of the hill. Basic bitch reverse slope shenanigans.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      nah the ukrainians got outflanked in soledar from the north and got fucked up when they retreated.

      there's slovenly inept ukrainian generals

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The fall of Yakolivka definitely made Soledar difficult to maintain for the AFU. It will be interesting to see where they stop the bleeding. The Russians are clearly looking to cut the supply lines north and south of Bakhmut.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want to be that guy but it took the allies also a long time to break through the Hindenburg line but eventually they did it and picked up pace. I'd rather the Ukrainians finally halt the Russians than continue losing ground.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Except bakhmut isn't part of the Hindenberg line. It's original purpose was a speed bump on the way to the real defensive lines set up around sloviansk/kramatorsk

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        AFU's main goal isn't to halt Russians, it's to cripple their entire army.

        I still think it was better when Russians were battering their heads against trenches and not mowing forward.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Still plenty of trenches left to the west of Soledar.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      AFU's main goal isn't to halt Russians, it's to cripple their entire army.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I hope Russia is able to put its shit together, this one sided war has been boring as fuck despite ukies best efforts to make funny videos.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it is one sided indeed when one side makes 20 threads about a 7km advance and capture of a small kolhos.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Julian Roepcke.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I did the math. At this pace they would be in Kiev by april 2026

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Reminder the Kremlin pisses money await on shilling like this.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      And their mobiks go into combat in Chinese plate carriers filled with cardboard. Every ruble expended on this Mongolian Nickleodeon fansite is a blessing and it doesn't change russias abysmal military situation one bit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is pissing money away on shills
      Actually there were some Russian/American chuggers on here gloating about making fake Ukraine support charities via fake NAFO Twitter accounts, where they would use the funds received to pay Indian bot farms.
      I would never do something that hilarious, not me. That's bad.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >second army in the world
    if the world is ukraine the yes.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Imagine being an ASSadist lmao

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Unapologetically, yes.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Unapologetically in love with corrupt and loser regimes, got it.

        https://i.imgur.com/SWX907l.jpg

        Imagine supporting the muslim brotherhood those few months before they gave all their US supplied weapons to actual ISIS and helped them rape children instead

        Cool propaganda, that will surely demoralize everyone and save your socialist dictator from getting the saddam treatment.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >that will surely demoralize everyone and save your socialist dictator from getting the saddam treatment
          Has so far!

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            How come he is the last of baath trash?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine supporting the muslim brotherhood those few months before they gave all their US supplied weapons to actual ISIS and helped them rape children instead

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I had to read a shit ton of letters between King John III Sobieski and his wife while working on my uni thesis, and their correspondence was 75% important military and political stuff and 25% softcore porn. I had to go through contemporary literature to understand some of their flirting because half the time they were doing cringy ERP as characters from popular fiction of their time (like L'Astrée). It got funnier when I realized some of his other preserved letters, e.g. to the Pope after the battle of Vienna were basically copies of letters to his wife with the naughty bits edited out.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Sends letter to pope.
          >It's the one time he forgets to edit out the smutty parts.
          >The next subsidy from the Papal States is MUCH bigger.
          >The Pope's reply is addressed to "daddy".

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Very wholesome.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ah yes totally legitimate hacker
        Totally not a scrubbed social email meant to create a positive image
        How can you believe this honestly lmao

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >If I call them reddit once more, russia will win and I will go to Gensokyo.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Things that never happened.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Haha case in fucking point! Normies are the absolute worst, you really are

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Russia did basically nothing against jihadists, they only bombed civilians kek that's when your propaganda turns against you.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >russia did nothing against jihadists
          >assads syria goes from months away from collapsing to winning after russia intervenes

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >more Russmoron kvetching
        Should've beheaded you next

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        ah yes random syrian terrorist group went to Ukraine to take pictures of mutilated kids
        All honorable terrorists groups are made up by film majors

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You know that repeating reddit and subreddit have no practical effect, right? People will still think russia is an incompetent shithole.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Sure it does. It cements the idea that you morons are just as gullible, intellectually deficient, and easily propagandized as basedmales on Rebbit.

      Which you have proven to be, over and over and over again. So, there really is no distinction between Rebbit and this place, especially since the start of this war, when State Department censorship was implemented by the mods to control the narrative.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You have a mimeographed newsletter, right?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I bet you cummed hard when Putin said he was a victim of cancel culture.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Shills forgot they were know shilling for Monke.

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This time for real, or like the other thousand times russians have taken Bakhmut?

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://i.imgur.com/h8jADdV.jpg

    Sure it does. It cements the idea that you morons are just as gullible, intellectually deficient, and easily propagandized as basedmales on Rebbit.

    Which you have proven to be, over and over and over again. So, there really is no distinction between Rebbit and this place, especially since the start of this war, when State Department censorship was implemented by the mods to control the narrative.

    Nobody gave a fuck about Jihad Julian before and nobody gives afuck about him now.
    Repeating your lie over and over doesn't make it true.
    Tell Prigozhin to raise your wages. You become pretty lazy lately spamming same shit all the time.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I suspect they want to tire us or bore us with all their stupid bullshit, no other explanation for such shitty propaganda.

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You do realize as a symbolic victory this is absolutely massive for the Russians after months of embarrassing losses. Downplaying it just comes off as PrepHoleope

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >we aren't losing horribly anymore, this is a victory

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Capturing a shitty village is hardly a symbolic victory no matter what the Russians say. If they actually manage to use this a springboard into Bakhmut and can then unify all of Donestk after a year of fighting that would be an actual symbolic victory.

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm sure Assad will control the wohole country and it won't devolve into warlords and shiite terrorist infighting for resources and clay while he gets bombed by Israel.

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You get extra penises of you shill for the Monke adjacent? How much fpr shilling Kim Jong Un or that guy in Kenya?

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What did he won?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      A bombed wasteland.

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Funny thing is I'm actually completely fine with Asad and him ruling over Syria.
    I'm not surprised you can't comprehend people having own opinions instead of being told what to like and what to hate.
    And my point still stands anyway. Jihadi Julian was always a lolcow.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS AFTER ME
    >THEY HIRE PEOPLE TO AVENGE HILLARY BY POSTING ON AN ANIME WEAPONS BOARD

    I miss when 4chan had enough self awareness to realize how they sound.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    idk about the war but im not reading anything from a twitter dork

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They are putting constant pressure on Ukraine's finest while the massive offensive is being readied in the north. This time it really will all end in 2 weeks.

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    lmao these vatnigs are so fucking mad rn.
    Serbfag boutta drop in with some Blacked I'm sure.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Reading this thread I now know Syrians captured Bakhmut, por something.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The Azov defenders of the Aleppo Citadel are brave soldiers of Zelensky, the Lion of Lyvov.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Never happened.
    The corpses outside of Bakhmut beg to differ.

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If we talk WW1, yes.

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If people can recognize your post you should stop posting you retard.
    I shouldn't be able to recognize the same vatmoron everytime he post the same gay pikagarden gnome

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    You already spammed this before and it didn't work out. Nobody cared about jihadi julian and he was known for being an absolute retard. If he was loved by PrepHole, he wouldn't be called jihadi julian in the first place. Stop with this blatant revisionism.

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Fucking hell, I walk 7 kms a day. What are they shooting all those artillery shells at?

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Julian concern trolling yet again
    why is this dude so weird

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    All memes and shitposting aside, I'd really like to get numbers on the casualty rates for both sides. Is it truly the meat grinder that everyone calls it? What is the cost of men and material per mile of advance? Are we approaching WWI levels of attrition?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      none of these people care about the truth, they're just going to spew nonsensical figures at you, they're too emotionally invested

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      We know that casualties for Russians are astronomic at this point, based on all the visual evidence, not so sure about the Ukies, they either have perfect opsec or aren't taking as much casualties.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody knows really. I beleive in Bakhmut, Russians really reached WW1 ratio of dead per conquered km. But Ukrainians lost many soldiers too based on reports of thier own troops deployed there.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >But Ukrainians lost many soldiers too based on reports of thier own troops deployed there
        Thanks for the tip vatmoron. Do you believe everything RT tells you?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Not vatmoron. Im fact I was arguing with one several posts earlier ITT.
          I just don't belive that downplaying the effort Ukriane put into defense of Bakhmut-Soledar is helpful.
          I'm certain that Bakhmut will hold for a long time unless Russians manage to actually encircle it but pretending Ukriane took barely any losses there is plain stupid.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >meat grinder that everyone calls it
      No but it should be.

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Ukraine losing despite the world support?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Satan is a weak backer against a Godly mission

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This sentence makes sense because Russia is the main backer of Ukraine.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >losing
      it isn't, Russia is failing to prosecute a LAND war on its borders, Ukraine is defending and doing an admirable job
      It's also not world support, everybody has been holding back, it's cold war spares in limited numbers.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They lost some random village you didn't even know existed one week ago, it's fucking over
      Meanwhile vatniks victoriously retreated from Kherson, hohols are finished

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They were never really meant to "win", the west wanted them to disarm their nuclear weapons, and dangled NATO/EU membership in their faces to bait them into further aggression against Russia without provoking WW3. Ukraine with nukes or in NATO serves no US interest.
      This proxy war between NATO and Russia is 100% at the expense of Ukraine first and foremost. They've done "well" against a superior foe, but they were meant to weaken Russia, not win. No real people, people who aren't delusional twitter/reddit posters, believe Ukraine is going to take back all that territory and kick Russia out. Ukrainians and their simps are literal useful idiots.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        When did they attack Russia?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine killed some 16k ethnic Russian civilians in the Donbas, in contrast the US waged a global war on terrorism after only like 3k people were killed on 9/11, so I'd say Russia's response has been mild to put it lightly

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Source?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              six million donbass children died. if you ask for source, you are a shill. russia today told me so.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah russian information operations are generally lame. The dambili bambass and Russia protector of religious values being the worse.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Wholesome.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                kek that webm was primed and ready

                https://i.imgur.com/To0e2Zh.jpg

                Haha case in fucking point! Normies are the absolute worst, you really are

                none of those people look alike
                Russian propaganda is so shitty I'm starting to think the State Department and mainstream media were not actually lying

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Goku
                BASADO

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Nice bait, subtle.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds more like truths to me. See through the PrepHoleope and it makes a sense lots.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Why is the SMO even still going on? What the fuck, why isn't the whole of the Ukraine conquered yet?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Because more hihils need to die.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you still clinging to your delusions in the face of the overwhelming, undeniable evidence that Ukraine is winning?

  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's okay Ukies when the loses start to kick in you can send your women overseas as refugees and the chuds will take care of them. I'm willing to convert to mormonism to take 5 wives, it's difficult but I might be able to do it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      In less than 20 years.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      you know, with the vax decimating populations in the west this might become a useful re-population strategy, hohol whore pussi for all my pureblood frens!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'm willing to go full azog/greater Israel (they DID NOT do 9/11! NOOOOOOO) if they supply me with a good number of fertile holhoes. This is how you get the chuds bidenbros, no further negotiations

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      an abstract kind of cope

  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I really dislike this guy but he has a point. Ukrainian friend of mine told me they are gonna abandon the Bakhmut area completely in spring. I know asking for a neutral source is bad faith 99% of the time but i genuinly wanna know wtf is happening there but everyone is being propagandistic in their own way.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody can tell you what is happening there because nobody really knows.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      People forget one thing:

      Russians have -never- stopped advancing on the dombas - dnipro line.
      They advance was always at a snail pace and costing them 10000s of casualties. Bulk of the dead in this worth is currently feeding grass in the dombass limits.
      Bakhmut is just another episode of this. It's blown out of proportion because the quasi-oligarchs in the army want their piece of the success pie and are fighting a massive internal disinfo war about it. The Wagner fag wants to come out of this war a billonaire.

      It's scary, no lie. There was always a risk of the Dombass front failing, and if it fails it's a freefall to dnipro with the whole bank of the dnieper falling with it.
      But ukrs have been handling the controlled retreat and attrition combat like true pros. They will retreat yes, but they already have a second line planned - at no risk whatsoever because russians lost izium.

      On an open war with no "take the capital for war score" gimmick retardation, Dnipro is simply the most important city in Ukraine. They lose that place, they lose the war.
      I think ukrs have no real expectation of ever advancing on this front, and are building their war effort around getting the orcs to run out of political capital / bodies and supply / putin just dying before they reach dnipro city

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I agree with basically all of your post.
        >But ukrs have been handling the controlled retreat and attrition combat like true pros
        >they already have a second line planned - at no risk whatsoever because russians lost ilium.
        The dumb part is that i am completely aware of both of these points but i gotta admit reading panicked anecdotes and constant fear mongering is getting to me after all. Its clear that russians dont give a shit about their losses and attrition is the name of the game, im just not sure if the west has the balls or stomach to keep up the support. Every time we send anything every vaguely isolationist pearl clutcher is up in arms about le welfare queen Zelensky. I get that westerners are completely disconnected from war but jesus i keep getting surprised by how fucking dumb and shortsighted people are in general.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The last 20 years have more than proven that people don't give a single fuck about foreign conflict.
          All support on this war is fueled 100% by long standing hate of russians and the vindicating of every old anti communist that still lives.

          Otherwise nobody would give a fuck. Like nobody gave a fuck when Lybia got utterly destroyed 10 years ago and Venezuela imploded 7 years ago.
          Humans are fundamentally greedy and isolationist. This won't change.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >The last 20 years have more than proven that people don't give a single fuck about foreign conflict.

            Absolute retards who cannot even fathom the concept of nuance actually believe this.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I'm calling it as I see it. Cope all you want.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >as I see it
                Yes, an absolute retard who cannot even fathom the concept of nuance

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I was spouting retarded falsehoods because I truly believe them.

                What's there to "cope" about for me in you doing this, exactly?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >What's there to "cope" about for me in you doing this, exactly?
                What falsehood you talk about?
                Has anyone stepped in to stabilize Lybia?
                Has anyone stepped in to stop the venezuelan dictatorship?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >muh "people don't give a fuck"

                That's the falsehood right there, you fucking illiterate retard who cannot even fathom the concept of nuance.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Nuance is an excuse for not committing anything that may put at risk their country but specially their goverment

                Wake me up when foreign armies are marching side to side with Ukraine.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >proves yet again that he cannot even fathom, let alone understand, the concept of nuance

                Why do you keep insisting on doing this?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                insisting with non arguments won't remove the plain fact that nuance hasn't achieved shit an entire century.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I disagree with the everybody wants to get famous narrative.
        Russias three main territorial goals they always had been hole territory of LPR and DPR (both Oblasts) and the land bridge to Crimea. They have managed to fully completed goal (Crimea land bridge) and from a practical standpoint completed second goal (LPR Oblast) and is currently making some albeit very limited progress on the DPR part.
        All other territorial goals are just a vague potential. Whey not try to go after Kiew and Kharkov. Because it pulls troops away from the Donbas and if they managed to control something that’s a bonus. Same goes for Dnipropetrovsk. I‘m not really sure how they estimated their chances, but I guess not too high. Second part is less territorial goal the implementation of a buffer zone in general.
        But most importantly prevent a hostile NATO state and a strong militarization of Ukraine. The first is prevented for the foreseeable future and they are also making some progress with regards to the second goal.
        So my guess: The surprise are the very high loses on both sites and a return to a more static type of trench warfare. Also Area Access Denial working with regards to ships and planes. But very limited success against small drones, ballistic and cruise missiles.
        Mass mobilization is not a thing of the past.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry for my phone posting I couldn’t see, what I was writing. I‘ll be back later for clarification, if it is necessary.

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What is the purpose behind posts like these? I dont get how this could change anyones mind in favor of russia, it just makes your side even harder to sympathize with.

  49. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >When will you ((pay back)) the west in kind
    Thats the neat part, they don't have too.

  50. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    So did the AFU really get pushed back across the entire Svatove-Kreminna front?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like every week they fight over same few villages in that area. Back and forth, back and forth.

  51. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    In Vietnam and Korea the best army did worse. I always told people they have to be careful not to over estimate China, Russia or the United States. Taking out the important infrastructure of your enemy does not equal taking a country and keeping it occupied. Driving in open terrain after the country in question had been subjected to many years of all out war, massive sanctions, internal conflicts between the many different tribes and several different ethnic groups and attacks by multilateral alliances is very different. Yes, I’m talking about Iraq.
    I had anticipated these trends to some degree.
    Especially twenty century style combined arms tactics coming to an end for the most part. At least in most terrains. The tank is rapidly losing relevance. If you carefully listen to Russias talk with regards to their ultimatums and the US withdrawal from Afghanistan you could tell Ukraine was certainly going to happen at some point.
    Big pushes with combined arms are a thing of the past at least given most terrains and most opponents with access to modern infantry weapons and drones. My answer would be pushing more than maybe 20 km in two weeks is probably not sustainable in most environments against most opponents.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >well you see, Russians are incompetent retards
      >therefore combined arms is dead

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You are presenting a false dichotomy. Ukrainian tanks and IFVs are taken out equally often. But there are multiple examples. Merkava in Lebanon. Leopards in Syria, Abrahams in Syria/Iraq, Abrahams in Yemen. In many cases with western advisers holding their hands during the operation. And even the coalition loses in Iraq were significant considering total air superiority, favorable terrain, old systems of the opponent and most enemy troops deserting/surrendering without a fight. The combined arms turned out to be of mediocre success in Korea and even less successful in the case of Vietnam.
        The Russian experience in Afghanistan was similar. Successful „combined“ arms was almost always infantry, artillery and helicopters (plus other air support) and not tanks. The tank nerds and the industry shills for these mobile coffins always come up with another cope.
        >not enough mine clearing (when the argument for the tank is it being resistent to mines and other obstacles on the ground)
        >not enough infantry at the flanks and with the tank to take out anti tank guided missile teams of the enemy (when the argument is tank that they can just rush trough the fire of the artillery and destroy the fortified positions to open it up for the infantry)
        Not to start with modern guided artillery rounds, smart mines, IEDs, drones, loitering ammunition etc.
        Which in their mind is already dealt with some additional amour (making the coffin less mobile) or more defense systems making it even more impossible for infantry to be around tanks.
        They will figure it out. But until than it’s another day another cope.
        I have yet to see video footage of a tank making an important break through in the entire Ukraine war. Because I have watched a lot of footage and the best I‘ve seen is it being successfully used as line of sight fire support. If the initiative was tank based it always ended with the tank(s) being disabled or retreating.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Oh wait, you're the "MBTs are totally useless, believe me and not your lying eyes and literally every single military in the world!" schizo who wants to tread the footsteps of Sparky.

          Yeah, just kys.

  52. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Röpcke

    LOL

    >even his russkie cope map STILL shows western Soledar contested.

    LMAO, even.

  53. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If this was some sandmoron territory, 80km would have been expected at least. Against a numerically "equivalent" foe, these infantry brigades should be able to advance about a km per day, which gives huge perspective about the cost and inefficiency of this gain.

  54. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why are vatmorons trying so hard to convince us they've taken Soledar, when all they have to do is post a video of themselves driving around it, but don't.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They've done that for the whole of last week.

  55. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >be white man in 1st world country
    >attain harem of holhoes
    >keep them in rural farm with no internet and breed everyday until they're all chained to a kid and unable to escape
    >The Ukiecel rages while my trad Slav(e) wives do the women's work and I run the tractor
    >slava Z

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >creates an army of mini-hohols
      >while Russia suffers demographic collapse
      least retarded Z-fag

  56. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Holbros which holhoe do I pick?
    https://ukrainianrealbrides.com/user_interface/profiles?from=20&to=30

  57. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Six miles of ground has been won
    >Half a million men are gone
    >And as the men crawled the general called
    >And the killing carried on and on
    >How long?
    >What's the purpose of it all?
    >What's the price of a mile?

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