Why won't more people use iron sights on rifles. Your grandpa was able to shoot out to 500 yards easy with them so why can't you? Iron sights are the goat, they never break, light as frick, no battery needed, they always work. I can shoot out to 800 yards easy with my scalar works iron sights.
because
I like 'em, on pistols too
I got a red dot on one of my pistols because "it's the future", and I barely ever shoot it because it's boring
I don’t have any LPVO’s or Acogs, but I’ve got irons on every rifle and when I do a build I’ll always buy irons if I cant get an optic right away. I’ve qualified at 400M with irons so I may be an okdgay, but I think it’s like being able to drive a stick shift.
Same. I’m just now getting my first pistol dot. The first thing I do on all my guns is put decent irons on and they are worth it.
Because homie I can buy like two Holosuns for that price lmao.
>$260 fricking dollars for "Gucci" irons
Fricking lmao
>F marked FSB: free, came on the rifle
>matech buis: free, pocketed from arms room
I get irons that I have taken out to 500 meters for a grand total of zero dollars. Even if you had to buy stuff, a surplus carry handle is like $30 and front sights aren't expensive. Why the frick would anyone spend hundreds on sights?
>800 yards
LMAO. Like when the 400 pound butter boy claims he can run a 4 minute mile easy. You have never been off the pistol range, have you?
shooting 800 yards is extremely easy, even a .22 can go up to two miles if you angle upwards 45 degrees
>shooting 800 yards is extremely easy
Depends on the target, but I don't expect noshoots like you and OP to have any clue what you're talking about.
jfc, thats crazy. KACs are a so much better deal
$129 EACH
$258 for a front/rear set
Sorry, not worth it.
You spend more on alcohol and or cigarettes in a month, what's $258 at that point?
I don’t drink or smoke
not him but I tracked my spending and in 2023 I spent about that same sum on alcohol and cigarettes each but it was the whole year, so take that
Sucks to be poor. Ever heard of Mapul Mbus Pros? Those are lower quality but around the same price.
>Why won't more people use iron sights on rifles
Same reason why more people don't learn morse code. Better alternatives are accessible thanks to technology.
Now don't get me wrong, I think it's idiotic to not know how to use iron sights. What I find puzzling is when people won't buy a given rifle because it doesn't have irons. Do people not realize that irons can be added to any rifle, if not by them then by a gunsmith?
>Do people not realize that irons can be added to any rifle, if not by them then by a gunsmith?
It's not that simple, dedicated iron sight sets for modern bolt actions can get really expensive
This frick the Black person who decided all modern sporters need to come without irons for cost reduction
And when they do make a rifle with irons, it has some shitass post and notch sights. I had to sporterize a Lee Enfield to get aperture sights worth a damn on a rifle.
>It's not that simple, dedicated iron sight sets for modern bolt actions can get really expensive
The picatinny clamp-on ones from fancy memebrands can be expensive.
Adding basic iron sights that dovetail into the barrel is cheap as frick. If you can't do it a Gunsmith can.
I have 2 from my old airsoft guns.
You're paying for them either way. No irons means you can pay for them yourself if you want, or save some money if you're only gonna run an optic.
My solution is to buy a good milsurp rifle with irons on it, like a K31. Hell, you can probably get one rebarreled for .308 for less than a modern rifle + good iron sights for it would cost
>What I find puzzling is when people won't buy a given rifle because it doesn't have irons.
Because it isn't about the rifle. It's about the company being ass for not including irons with the rifle, and if they're going to be ass I'm not going to give them my money for that product.
Yes, you should practice with iron sights, no they shouldn't be your first resort.
I have an ACOG, which will outlast any set of irons
>I can shoot out to 800 yards easy
At what you LARPing homosexual?
They want to show off cool gear. They should focus on the basics. There's nothing wrong with scopes, but you need to learn how your weapon operates before you throw on all the attachments.
precision machined irons are about as expensive as a mid-grade red dot. I like backup irons fundamentally but these seem to be a solution for a fake problem.
Don't have shit optics and you won't ever need to purchase shit or gucci irons
t. LEDCOG/RMR and Aimpoint T2 ENJOYER
NO I WANT COOL LASER GUN SIGHTS LIKE THEY HAVE IN MY VIDYA!!
>YOU DON'T NEEEEEEEED OPTICS FOR 500 YARDS
STFU
Sounds like you have a skill issue
You dont *need* caffeine in the morning, but it is certainly more pleasant. I like irons and they're on my rifles, but I dont blame people for prioritizing a red dot.
behold
>detachable carry handle
prepare for /arg/ seething
>nooo its not heckin retro black hawk down fixed carry handle gordon carbine
>nooo its not devgru special ops night vision red dot 11.5" 416 NGMI
out of the way electro optic non detachable cucks
All you need is a adjustable windage and elevatoon front sight.
Because irons are completely outclassed by a hundred dollar red dot.
t. strictly irons
Who still makes a detachable A2 style fixed front? Scalarworks and MI? I know LMT had a good one, but they stopped making them for some reason.
DD
They don't have the A2 aesthetic
Retro ARs are more popular than they've ever been.
Train with both, irons at night with a flashlight is damn annoying.
Irons are obsolete. With optics there's literally no reason to use them. Its like why we dont use muzzle loaders in combat anymore.
Shooting out to 500 or 600 yards with irons and getting good hits is easy
IF
you have a large, brightly-lit white target that not obscurred by anything. A camouflaged guy lying prone with his head behind a camouflaged rifle is hard to see without magnification at even 100 yards. Add low light to the mix, and it becomes even harder.
WAKE UP, homosexual.
Navy SEAL right here folks
Is that you white feather?
this guy actually owns guns
I would think you could hit a gray or blue target just as easily as a white one
>I would think you could hit a gray or blue target just as easily as a white one
Not as easy to see and therefore not as easy to center up behind a standard front sight post, which covers about 2 feet at 600 yards. Your shots will be less accurate.
This is the kind of expert advice I come to PrepHole for.
with a magnified optic+decent if not good rifle+good shooter yeah
also refer to this
Lole, ok
yeah
How much less accurate? Can you give me a number?
yeah
womp womp
ya muddah
You'd be surprised how shitty of a shot the average person is. It wouldn't surprise me that people say you need a optic past 500 yards. It's repeatable at 800 yards with irons with a 20 inch barrel ar15.
Source, I got astigmatism.
does anyone make ye olde AK-47 sights with picatinny mounting?
not the best but my favourite irons