Hypothetically speaking, if Iran enters Russia-Ukraine war against Ukraine how things will change?! will it drag NATO in?! or Ukraine will lose in no time?!
Iran, Russia and Ukraine
Hypothetically speaking, if Iran enters Russia-Ukraine war against Ukraine how things will change?! will it drag NATO in?! or Ukraine will lose in no time?!
Iran isn't going to throw their own soldiers into the meatgrinder when they still need to worry about violent dissidents and the Taliban at home.
>if Iran enters
call their worst nightmare to join the fun: Israel
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Why, how, and with what?
How is Iran meant to enter the war, this thread is silly.
Wasn't Iran claiming a few days ago that they can build nukes, but they won't have to and are open to a new deal, to lose some sanctions??. As much as they hate the collective west, they see that this is a lost cause. If an alliance was formed, and China would join the party, than maybe China and Russia would drag Iran along. But both know that even an infinite ammount of cheap russian oil/gas isn't worth losing access to western tech or markets. For China losing the european market would end up in a collapse.
There's zero chance of Iran entering the Ukraine War.
But in case it did the strategies involved would be completely different. Instead of relying on numbers, Iran would be more interested in reducing casualties and sitting targets in favor a protracted war. Iran may slowly retreat outright from most areas, get to a stronghold and then pushback once foreign attention and supplies dries up.
But really the whole mental exercise is stupid. If Iran wanted to get into a conflict like this, a war with Azerbaijan is more realistic than somehow getting all the way into Ukraine whom they don't even have historical grievances.
>If an alliance was formed, and China would join the party, than maybe China and Russia would drag Iran along.
If China joined Russia, Iran would have even less reason to get involved with the two carrying enough weight by themselves.
That pic was some next level shit, Ukrainian military attaché in Tehran during anniversary of Islamic revolution. Till now pro Ukraine folks can't explain it.
>Israel
Israel is fart without sound, they only make big sounds no actions.
Israel regularly blows up Iranian facilities and scientists and Iran just seethes about it. Wish they'd actually take proper action against Israel, but Iran is the actual toothless lion in the middle east only doing shit through subterfuge.
moron, there is cold war between Iran and Israel for decades and it's normal for people to die from each side.
Btw, who killed those 4 Mossad agents in Italy few days ago? lol
Iran doesn't hate Israel. They just want brownie points in the Muslim world for supporting Palestine with feasible violence.
>Israel is fart without sound, they only make big sounds no actions.
Exactly, its clearly Saudi and Iraqi jets that blow drone factories and rallying grounds up on a weekly basis.
>We can't intercept Iranian drones
>So we /k/ope by saying Israel blew up Iran drone factory in Syria
>Even though Iran produce drones inside country not outside
You feds need to up your game.
With if Azerbaijan and Georgia ally with Ukraine and push all the Russian remnants out of the Caucasus?
Thing is Russia and China don't trust each other, Iran doesn't trust Russia or China, and Russia and China don't give a shit about Iran. Not the greatest foundation for an alliance. China knows it has pushed it too far with its alliance with Russia, which has pushed Europe closer to the US, which it the opposite of what China wants. Also the Chinese were furious when the US found out that they were sending arms to Russia and told everyone. So the Chinese really want to hide their hand.
Iran's GDP has been tanking ever since Trump pulled out of the Iran deal. The sanctions are visibly fricking them over. Last winter there were explosions in multiple Iranian cities which people assumed was Israeli drone strikes. Turns out it was Iran's decrepit power grid exploding from lack of maintenance and repairs.
Ukraine doesn't have much to offer Iran. The Iranians would first and foremost be interested in western sanctions being liften but that's something they need to discuss with the US and EU not Ukraine. Also they won't be switching sides until Russia delivers those 30 Sukhois they're paying with for the Shaheds.
Iran barely prevented a revolution last year.
If they commit their forces to fricking Europe of all places, they're gonna be more fricked than a chai boy in a tent full of drunk mullahs.
>Iran barely prevented a revolution last year.
CIA color revolution failed in Iran.
>Hypothetically speaking,
this thread is so fricking stupid, seriously.
It's a less known fact but Iran sells more weapons to Ukraine than Isreal does. Mostly ammunition though, they are one's of the few who still makes soviet calibers that ukies still use en mass.
So yeah, they are about as much of a "le pussian ally" as China or Turkey is.
What is the relation between Iran and Ukraine?
Frenemy?
Somehow it seems Iran is closer to Ukraine compare to Russia or China.
Relations were actually really good before February 2022. Probably not the best right now but Ukraine hasn't severed diplomatic relations yet though Zelensky sign off a huge sanctions package against Iran a few weeks ago.
Why Ukraine doesn't use diplomacy to bring Iran to their side?
Because the choice between pissing off the West and their massive amount of free gibs and trying to court Iran for... the lulz, I guess? is pretty clear.
Do you think Iran is using drones sell to Russia as a pressure on west to lift sanctions and not necessary hating Ukraine?
>Do you think Iran is using drones sell to Russia as a pressure on west to lift sanctions
why would it help left sanctions, its more likely to trigger mass air strikes
No, I think they're fricking poor and scrambling for anything that they can sell to anyone. Their weapons becoming the face of Russian terror bombing campaigns is very bad PR and has made the West even more willing to turn a blind eye to Israel continuing to frick with them.
They turned Russia into their puppet state, that's pretty impressive for a country that is sanctioned for 40+ years.
>Israel continuing to frick with them
Israel better recover dead bodies of their Mossad agents from Italy.
I'm sure they'll wipe their tears away with the rubble of the various Iranian factories they've bombed and actually important people they've killed instead of 4 field agents, but go off king, I know you'll take any W you can get at this point.
/k/ope with imaginary drone factories that Israel bombed in Syria and not the fact that 4 top Mossad agents got killed in Italy.
More Shaheds will be sent to Russia and Ukraine will be reduced to ruble, nothing can stop it.
They thought Russia had this one in the bag and threw their weight behind them prematurely. Supplying shaheds was a bad move in the end. Europeans were generally more favorable to Iran and wanted the return of the nuclear deal. Iran supplying Russia with weapons used exclusively against civilians obviously put Iran high up on the shit list. Not to mention Russia can’t provide Iran with anything the country really needs. Twenty Su-30s obviously sounds cool but they won’t fix the decaying infrastructure or help with any of the many other economic issues Iran faces.
>Twenty Su-30s
Actually it's 60 Su-35s, so yeah it worth it.
>when they haven't even seen snow before
Why feds on /k/obe are so illiterate about Iran?!
>so yeah it worth it
Not really since Iran's current issues are of economic rather than military nature. What Iran needs are markets to sell their resources on and consumer goods to purchase. Unfortunately Russia has no need for Iranian resources and doesn't produce consumer goods either.
Strongest to weakest
Iran>Ukraine>Russia
I kinda want to see Iranian conscripts hauled by train across Eurasia and ending up manning trenches in freezing mid in Ukraine when they haven't even seen snow before. I wonder if they even have winter gear at all.
Snow isn't that uncommon in Teheran and the north of the country where most people live.
>Start shit in Europe
>Just ignore the US-armed Taliban on your borders.
Holy fricking moronic,
It's obvious now that Taliban is CIA morons.
Unless Iran has some hidden supertech air force and can teleport secret supercarriers built in caves onto the Black Sea, I don't see it happening. They could march ground troops but again, unless Turkey gives them passage or something similarly out there happens, I don't see any chance of, say, AFU assault company veterans VS IRCG suicide-zealots.
Iran with Shahed-136 already taught a good lesson to NATO and west imagine what other stuff Iran has.
US would use the PR to justify launching air and missile strikes on Iran aiming to topple the government and make a point to the Chinese and Russians. It would massively expand the war fronts in a way that favors the west.
No one fears Iran the way the Russian nukes still trouble them, and no-one is going to care about any guarantees Russia might claim to make for Iranian sovereignty. And no-one in Iran wants to die for Putin.
USA lost in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam how they can win over Iran you stupid fed?!
>if Iran enters
Why would they?