It did work since the entirety of the world was backing It against Saddam. But this time you have large populations and huge industrial countries such as China, India, Vietnam, ASEAN and recently Japan who are still buying Russian oil on top of the fact that OPEC countries are also siding with Russia by reducing their production of oil since they're pissed at the fact that the West dared to put a price cap on Russian oil imports (now it's Russia but could be their oil tomorrow)
was more than just sanctions but also no fly zone, Iraq was bled white before we went back to finish the job a decade later. Gulf war 1 was really more impressive and fricking terrified the Chinese and Soviets because Iraq operated on the same basic doctrine, and both China and the USSR had the same kind of potemkin army except it hadn't been hardened by recent war.
I found out about this a not too long ago. I also found out America constantly flew bombers with nukes ready to strike Russia for years. So much wasted fuel.
One regiment policed an area the size of England in Afghanistan
We didn't even need Beto shultzheimerbergstein holding our hands or talking to us with a Spanish accent either
We did it all by ourselves
>the single regiment Britain can afford to provide gets sent to the already stabilized sector so they can feel like they're contributing to something
You're a shitty little island country, you can't do anything by yourselves. That's not in the cards for you anymore.
One regiment policed an area the size of England in Afghanistan
We didn't even need Beto shultzheimerbergstein holding our hands or talking to us with a Spanish accent either
We did it all by ourselves
Don't mind him he's just our local board anti-bong moron anon. He's been more subtle recently with his shilling but he's still here.
>Helmand >Stable
Marine here, the bongs on the ground did an actual astounding job considering of how poorly they were supplied to deal with that deathtrap
Helmand can go suck a dick, and so can you homosexual
The Americans were fighting Sunni Iraqis who also could not defeat Iranians (even with American help), kurds, ISIS, or Shias. The Russians are fighting Ukraines. Is this complicated?
> Soviet trained Army that actually has gear that functions
vs > Russia today
Honestly, I think Iraq 1990 would be able to at minimum fend off the invasion. The entire reason it was a cakewalk for the United States was because the US can conduct SEAD on ridiculous timetables, which the Russian Federation has proven it can not.
Alright i will bite.
Iraq was in peak economic and military form in the late 1970s,after that they went through a grueling brutal war with Iran for 8 years
Thena not even 2 years latter after that brutal grind the moron Saddam miscalculated an thought the west will just let him invade Kuwait without doing anything.
Thend they got opartioned by Desert Shield and after that Desert Storm which pushed their shit in hard in1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War
They are barely hitting the pre 1991 economic leverls today,the aftermath of the gulf war fricked their shit for more than 2 decades.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/IRQ/iraq/gdp-gross-domestic-product
So in conclusion by 2003 when the US invades Iraq is exausted both militarily,economically and politically since even absolut slave peopel like arabs had enough of Sadams frick-ups by that point.The war was a genuine 6 day SMO.
Of course then the US politicians fricked up,didnt cooperate properly with the locals in the oposition and an insurgency started and they are now in bed with Iran, gg.
All in all everything post 1991 was useless shit to get more money into the DOD and has failed to achieve any political gains for the US in the region,if anything it hurt their interests.
tldr OP is a giant b8ing homosexual,these two wars are not really comparable.
>even absolut slave peopel like arabs had enough of Sadams frick-ups by that point
keep lying homosexual, but the truth that you will never admit that iraqis were happy with saddam and shia homosexuals hated him becoz he destroyed them, thats the truth that you will never speak with you american dog.
You forgot that they defacto partitioned a third of Iraq in 91 and it became its own autonomous Kurdish state in all but name (which then fought a civil war). When the US invaded it had 80,000 Kurds helping the attack from the North.
Gee I wonder, maybe 10 years prior to that something happened that destroyed most of the military and also gave the invading force a lot of experience and knowledge of the area.
But nothing like that ever happened.
This is not even comparable, iraq lost a large chunk of it's military and a ton of equipment after the gulf war. After Crimea and Donbas Ukraine got a significantly stronger and better equipped military.
Well to be fair, Ukraine was literally russia for most of its history so I’d assume the russians would know the area a little bit
You overestimate how the Soviet Union was, Ukraine wasn't very close with moscow outside of Kiev and most people didn't move around (willingly) in the USSR.
Crimea is directly comparable. Russia literally annexed one of the most strategic parts of the country and fed a war on its eastern industrial heartland. Russia just sucks.
Well to be fair, Ukraine was literally russia for most of its history so I’d assume the russians would know the area a little bit
You mean like the invasion of Crimea, not even 10 years ago?
> NOOO it takes a hecking DECADE to replace meat in a military! > he says, while talking about a military where the meat was replaced
See:
Saddam's army was army was rekt back in Desert Storm and the sanctions prevented him from rebuilding It. The US also maintained a NFZ from 1991 right until the day of the invasion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones_conflict
So it's as if Russia destroyed the UAF and have been controlling Its airspace since 2014 until the start of the SMO in 2022
>10+ years isn't enough to rebuild the military
cope shitskin
For Iraq 10 years awwas nowhere near enough. The country had a ton of it's equipment destroyed then was blocked from buying more.
Sactions worked on Iraq because unlike China or Russia they didn't have anyone to rely on or any natural resources to work with. Iraq was fricked after the gulf war and 2003 was just cleaning up the mess the US made.
Well considering theat the soviet-afghan war started in 79 and most of the fighters would've been in their early 20s and we are now in 2023 and the life expectancy in Afghanistan is 62 years,that actually checks out.
Most of them have probably died of old age and the ones who have not have lived to see their people btfo another great power.
Actual registered Mujahideen fighters raped literally everyone they fought, they smoked Russia, Iraq, The US, Al Queda, and the Taliban, they ended up dying off later on because they got too old to fight but they did a lot of fighting and they didn't lose too often even outside of Afghanistan.
They were never one single group, they were always a bunch of different groups under one name, hence why they fought each other almost as much as the soviets.
>5k casualties for the combined coalition force for the entire war >hahah le west owned!!!!
How fricked are the russians if 5k deaths is "bad" compared to their like 160k casualties of which around 60k is KIA with bakhmut probably causing 1k deaths atleast on its own
Shitskins and Russhits (Black folk but wrong color) do this constantly. They have immeasurably high expectations for the West, but when they lose hundreds of thousands, it's simply expected. It's a combo of cuckoldry and inferiority complex.
People tend to forget, due to all the propaganda and media bullshit, that Russia is a POOR country. If they weren’t sitting on huge piles of Soviet surplus they’d never be able to conduct any kind of invasion like what we’re seeing.
>you mean PFM-1 is only really good at maiming children >increase production, Boris
Recent Friendly Fire: >In Russian-controlled Donetsk many PFM-1 were widely dispersed, and Russian and local sources accused the Ukrainian army of being responsible for their deployment.[23] There have been reported casualties, most prominently Semen Pegov, a Russian war blogger calling himself "War Gonzo".
>1 billion zillion countries get together to invade one country that already got bled dry for 10 years before >totally incapable of putting up resistance and basically surrenders its way into occupation >2 impoverished eastern european nations with roughly equal combat power relative to frontage throw shit at each other >instant gridlock
i think its very easy to see
>1 billion zillion countries get together to invade one country that already got bled dry for 10 years before
incapable of putting up resistance and basically surrenders its way into occupation >2 impoverished eastern european nations with roughly equal combat power relative to frontage throw shit at each other >instant gridlock
nice one moron
Sir, the US made Iraq their b***h, and when we realized we couldn't hold soft power or oil fields, we left. Regardless, Saddam couldn't be left to his own devices or he'd destabilize the region for our oil partner, Saudi Arabia
If you consider the Iraq War a victory than you are just as delusional as the vatniks, but at least we btfo'd the Iraqis in the actual war https://time.com/6265077/how-iran-won-the-iraq-war/
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/01/18/armys-long-awaited-iraq-war-study-finds-iran-was-the-only-winner-in-a-conflict-that-holds-many-lessons-for-future-wars/
defense contracts and military experience + bringing iraq to stoneage shithole status to please israel so it was indeed a victory from that point of view
>Sunni >Shia >doing anything unified
At most it will be a neutral agreement. There's no way Iraq and Iran will be more than that.
Unless there was a Shia revolt and genocide that happened in the past 2-3 years that noone reported ofc.
I imagine its more of a unified anti-Israel/Saudi agreement and playing nice with Uncle Xi so they can revitalise their militaries. Iraq has no reason to not just buy whatever it can from China and Iran clearly produces arms based on Russian designs as they are supplying them with munitions.
US sanctions has literally forced them all into a corner and it's fairly lucky that India wasn't in the same state it was in the 80s because it'd very likely join them in that case.
>the mujahadeen gave the weak soldiers of your country a trauma that they will never get rid of it
Yeah... but here's the thing. Soldiers go to the army expecting to be traumatised. Absolutely nobody can say they didn't go in open eyed. The vietnam movies and books and stories are all right there. Hell, I've heard Gulf War 1 veterans saying they were traumatised by walking along the Highway of Death looking at all the bodies of Iraqis they smoked.
Real effect on the USA of all of this? Zip. Nada. Squelch. Some guys with a hardon for trauma porn got what they were looking for. The rest of the country goes on pretty much the same.
Meanwhile your mujahideen are starving and crying to the USA for aid that's not coming.
america with... >american exceptionalism >manifest destiny
reminder that america was literally willed by God and is the promised land. One Nation Under God. It is Israel 2.0 the greatest nation on earth and all the so called "christian savior" larpers such as russia are nothing more than poor immitations, evidently destined to fail. the usa is the greatest nation to ever exist. thirdies and yuropoors cope seethe and dialate.
America actually had logistics, and Iraq like most middle eastern countries have a shit show of a standing military and are only good when they become guerilla. Russia has no logistics and are fighting a much better fore
>decimating a shitskin's standing army is the same as civilizing said shitskin country >thinking alliances mean anything in the shithole that is the middle east
more cope. shitskins are so awful at fighting they have to conflate clear military victories with the impossible. instead, they scatter like roaches, and resort to IED and using children as suicide bombers to have any sort of a chance.
America has vast amounts of money, good military technology and Whites run the military unlike Puccia also Iraq wishes they could be a tenth as competent as Ukraine
Saddam's army was army was rekt back in Desert Storm and the sanctions prevented him from rebuilding It. The US also maintained a NFZ from 1991 right until the day of the invasion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones_conflict
So it's as if Russia destroyed the UAF and have been controlling Its airspace since 2014 until the start of the SMO in 2022
plot armor
America is the main character of the world
Well to start they didn't think they would be welcomed with open arms and actually prepared to meet resistance
How long was iraq sanctioned for again?
So sanctions actually work? I was told otherwise.
It did work since the entirety of the world was backing It against Saddam. But this time you have large populations and huge industrial countries such as China, India, Vietnam, ASEAN and recently Japan who are still buying Russian oil on top of the fact that OPEC countries are also siding with Russia by reducing their production of oil since they're pissed at the fact that the West dared to put a price cap on Russian oil imports (now it's Russia but could be their oil tomorrow)
Sanctions don't do anything, based royssian Asiatic horde told me so
was more than just sanctions but also no fly zone, Iraq was bled white before we went back to finish the job a decade later. Gulf war 1 was really more impressive and fricking terrified the Chinese and Soviets because Iraq operated on the same basic doctrine, and both China and the USSR had the same kind of potemkin army except it hadn't been hardened by recent war.
>no fly zone
I found out about this a not too long ago. I also found out America constantly flew bombers with nukes ready to strike Russia for years. So much wasted fuel.
But I thought you homosexuals told me sanctions don't work?
Sanctions don’t work though. Report directly to Gulag
no one cared about human rights because it was a nato invasion
Is NATO in Iraq now?
Yeah?
Are they in the room with you now?
No?
US & UK teamed up is formidable. Iraq is not.
the US is the group member that does all the work, the UK is just the guy who gets invited to fill space
One regiment policed an area the size of England in Afghanistan
We didn't even need Beto shultzheimerbergstein holding our hands or talking to us with a Spanish accent either
We did it all by ourselves
>the single regiment Britain can afford to provide gets sent to the already stabilized sector so they can feel like they're contributing to something
You're a shitty little island country, you can't do anything by yourselves. That's not in the cards for you anymore.
You're so rattled by big anglo wiener you can't even type English, this is projection
And Britain is a continent not an island
Don't mind him he's just our local board anti-bong moron anon. He's been more subtle recently with his shilling but he's still here.
>Helmand
>Stable
Marine here, the bongs on the ground did an actual astounding job considering of how poorly they were supplied to deal with that deathtrap
Helmand can go suck a dick, and so can you homosexual
Slightly off topic but if the US during Gulf War = Russia currently, what is the UK in this example? Belarus? Kazakhstan?
>and on the seventh day he rested
>What went so right?
The Americans were fighting Sunni Iraqis who also could not defeat Iranians (even with American help), kurds, ISIS, or Shias. The Russians are fighting Ukraines. Is this complicated?
>Dredging this material up
What next, Tongo Tongo, AQ sniping montage?
This is why we laugh at russian visceral fat being sprayed up asphalt
Would Saddam Hussein's 1990 army be able to beat the 2020 Russian Army? I think they would stand a decent chance.
They'd repel any invasion attempt that's for sure.
If the Pozziyans had to drag their asses all the way to Iraq to fight then Saddam would fricking crush them
> Soviet trained Army that actually has gear that functions
vs
> Russia today
Honestly, I think Iraq 1990 would be able to at minimum fend off the invasion. The entire reason it was a cakewalk for the United States was because the US can conduct SEAD on ridiculous timetables, which the Russian Federation has proven it can not.
Win? No. Be able to blunt the advance to the point Russia would seriously need to rethink their strategy? Yes.
Forgot how ugly was the chieftain.
>chieftain
>ugly
It may be a piece of shit but it’s gorgeous.
1990 Iraq would certainly have a more modern and better-maintained fleet of MBTs.
Russia would get stomped. Iraqi AD networks were ridiculous and their military dwarfed the Russian invasion force.
It would be a repeat of the Iran-Iraq War, which was a repeat of the Western Front of the Great War. It would be kino.
Without a doubt. Russia can barely send troops and supplies to their neighbor. Imagine how they would struggle doing that thousands of miles away.
I miss Saddam Hussein
Best expendable ME friend the US ever had.
Alright i will bite.
Iraq was in peak economic and military form in the late 1970s,after that they went through a grueling brutal war with Iran for 8 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
Thena not even 2 years latter after that brutal grind the moron Saddam miscalculated an thought the west will just let him invade Kuwait without doing anything.
Thend they got opartioned by Desert Shield and after that Desert Storm which pushed their shit in hard in1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War
They are barely hitting the pre 1991 economic leverls today,the aftermath of the gulf war fricked their shit for more than 2 decades.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/IRQ/iraq/gdp-gross-domestic-product
So in conclusion by 2003 when the US invades Iraq is exausted both militarily,economically and politically since even absolut slave peopel like arabs had enough of Sadams frick-ups by that point.The war was a genuine 6 day SMO.
Of course then the US politicians fricked up,didnt cooperate properly with the locals in the oposition and an insurgency started and they are now in bed with Iran, gg.
All in all everything post 1991 was useless shit to get more money into the DOD and has failed to achieve any political gains for the US in the region,if anything it hurt their interests.
tldr OP is a giant b8ing homosexual,these two wars are not really comparable.
>even absolut slave peopel like arabs had enough of Sadams frick-ups by that point
keep lying homosexual, but the truth that you will never admit that iraqis were happy with saddam and shia homosexuals hated him becoz he destroyed them, thats the truth that you will never speak with you american dog.
Nobody liked saddam aside from the ruling minority that ruled the country.
>shia hated him
>kurds hated him
oh so only 80% of the country hated him? nice
>shia
>kurds
oh so only 80% of the national army? yet didn't get coup'd? nice
Ah yes the 100% lotal army, totally not just here for a paycheck. Lol
You forgot that they defacto partitioned a third of Iraq in 91 and it became its own autonomous Kurdish state in all but name (which then fought a civil war). When the US invaded it had 80,000 Kurds helping the attack from the North.
Gee I wonder, maybe 10 years prior to that something happened that destroyed most of the military and also gave the invading force a lot of experience and knowledge of the area.
But nothing like that ever happened.
Well to be fair, Ukraine was literally russia for most of its history so I’d assume the russians would know the area a little bit
Ukraine is like 600 years older than Russia, moron. Poland held ukraine far longer than russia did.
You mean like the invasion of Crimea, not even 10 years ago?
This is not even comparable, iraq lost a large chunk of it's military and a ton of equipment after the gulf war. After Crimea and Donbas Ukraine got a significantly stronger and better equipped military.
You overestimate how the Soviet Union was, Ukraine wasn't very close with moscow outside of Kiev and most people didn't move around (willingly) in the USSR.
Crimea is directly comparable. Russia literally annexed one of the most strategic parts of the country and fed a war on its eastern industrial heartland. Russia just sucks.
>10+ years isn't enough to rebuild the military
cope shitskin
>what are sanctions?
sanctions don't work anon
See:
> NOOO it takes a hecking DECADE to replace meat in a military!
> he says, while talking about a military where the meat was replaced
>what are sanctions?
For Iraq 10 years awwas nowhere near enough. The country had a ton of it's equipment destroyed then was blocked from buying more.
Sactions worked on Iraq because unlike China or Russia they didn't have anyone to rely on or any natural resources to work with. Iraq was fricked after the gulf war and 2003 was just cleaning up the mess the US made.
>the mujahadeen
are all dead lol
Well considering theat the soviet-afghan war started in 79 and most of the fighters would've been in their early 20s and we are now in 2023 and the life expectancy in Afghanistan is 62 years,that actually checks out.
Most of them have probably died of old age and the ones who have not have lived to see their people btfo another great power.
afghans fricked over your country gay
American barely felt the consequences of afghanistan
Cant say the same for the USSWAS
Actual registered Mujahideen fighters raped literally everyone they fought, they smoked Russia, Iraq, The US, Al Queda, and the Taliban, they ended up dying off later on because they got too old to fight but they did a lot of fighting and they didn't lose too often even outside of Afghanistan.
>Mujahideen
died early on and splintered into multiple factions.
They were never one single group, they were always a bunch of different groups under one name, hence why they fought each other almost as much as the soviets.
>5k casualties for the combined coalition force for the entire war
>hahah le west owned!!!!
How fricked are the russians if 5k deaths is "bad" compared to their like 160k casualties of which around 60k is KIA with bakhmut probably causing 1k deaths atleast on its own
Shitskins and Russhits (Black folk but wrong color) do this constantly. They have immeasurably high expectations for the West, but when they lose hundreds of thousands, it's simply expected. It's a combo of cuckoldry and inferiority complex.
Better to lose 100K and $100B and win than to lose 5k and $20T and lose
>20T
kek you morons and your imaginary numbers.
>20t
Anon, russians are spending billions per day. Modern wars are expensive, especially at the invasion phase.
>Better to lose 100K and $100B
I never seen such moronic claim that the War cost them less than 100 Billion US-Dollar. Are you clinical moronic?
One was an unsupported Arab country against the most powerful military on earth. The US lost the proxy conflict to Iran in the end anyway.
>An actual seething shitskin
People tend to forget, due to all the propaganda and media bullshit, that Russia is a POOR country. If they weren’t sitting on huge piles of Soviet surplus they’d never be able to conduct any kind of invasion like what we’re seeing.
>all went wr-ACK
you know, i've never actually seen the footage of that.
Didn't his head rip off?
I immediately thought of that statue of Lenin that slipped and the head got snapped off by the crane.
>vatniks talking about afghanistan again
>15,000 killed (official figures)
I wonder what the real number was
other sources say 26,000, so it's probably about 25,500
1.3 million Russian conscripts dead
>2 million civvies killed with 3 million wounded
Jesus Christ.
The Soviets actually tried the genocide method at winning a guerilla war and they couldn't even do that
>you mean PFM-1 is only really good at maiming children
>increase production, Boris
Recent Friendly Fire:
>In Russian-controlled Donetsk many PFM-1 were widely dispersed, and Russian and local sources accused the Ukrainian army of being responsible for their deployment.[23] There have been reported casualties, most prominently Semen Pegov, a Russian war blogger calling himself "War Gonzo".
>Semen Pegov
frick off no way thats a real name
Yes it's a real name. Semen/Semyon = how slavs spell Simon
>coalition of democratic nations with low corruption rates and high morale wins
Yes 1+1=2
>1 billion zillion countries get together to invade one country that already got bled dry for 10 years before
>totally incapable of putting up resistance and basically surrenders its way into occupation
>2 impoverished eastern european nations with roughly equal combat power relative to frontage throw shit at each other
>instant gridlock
i think its very easy to see
>1 billion zillion countries get together to invade one country that already got bled dry for 10 years before
incapable of putting up resistance and basically surrenders its way into occupation
>2 impoverished eastern european nations with roughly equal combat power relative to frontage throw shit at each other
>instant gridlock
nice one moron
Sir, the US made Iraq their b***h, and when we realized we couldn't hold soft power or oil fields, we left. Regardless, Saddam couldn't be left to his own devices or he'd destabilize the region for our oil partner, Saudi Arabia
>t. left the country like a b***h after getting bucked and gained literally nothing
>getting bucked
By who specifically?
By whom.
you know that it was only the US and the UK, Australia and Poland that participated in operation Iraqi freedom, right?
Letting your troops know you are going to invade for starters.
Smoking opium, looking at splatted towel heads and burning shit in a barrel must be pretty traumatizing ngl
>your soldiers in ukraine
I wish that was true. I wish russia (obr. 2023) taste the war with US for real, at least for a couple of days.
>>Iraq forming an military economic alliance with iran against the United States
in your dreams, homosexual
>Iraq war = Battle of Baghdad
I know you are a moronic homosexual, but try harder
USSR lost WW2 because it collapsed Germany unified and entered alliance against Russia.
Unironically yes
That's how it'll be viewed in 100-200 years
>Iraq forming an military economic alliance with iran
If you consider the Iraq War a victory than you are just as delusional as the vatniks, but at least we btfo'd the Iraqis in the actual war https://time.com/6265077/how-iran-won-the-iraq-war/
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/01/18/armys-long-awaited-iraq-war-study-finds-iran-was-the-only-winner-in-a-conflict-that-holds-many-lessons-for-future-wars/
Let me ask you anon, what was the objective of the Iraq war?
defense contracts and military experience + bringing iraq to stoneage shithole status to please israel so it was indeed a victory from that point of view
>it was indeed a victory
So Iraq lost? And the US won? Okay, glad we cleared that up.
>Iran won because the U.S. invaded Iraq a decade after Iran already capitulated
>Sunni
>Shia
>doing anything unified
At most it will be a neutral agreement. There's no way Iraq and Iran will be more than that.
Unless there was a Shia revolt and genocide that happened in the past 2-3 years that noone reported ofc.
I imagine its more of a unified anti-Israel/Saudi agreement and playing nice with Uncle Xi so they can revitalise their militaries. Iraq has no reason to not just buy whatever it can from China and Iran clearly produces arms based on Russian designs as they are supplying them with munitions.
US sanctions has literally forced them all into a corner and it's fairly lucky that India wasn't in the same state it was in the 80s because it'd very likely join them in that case.
>the mujahadeen gave the weak soldiers of your country a trauma that they will never get rid of it
Yeah... but here's the thing. Soldiers go to the army expecting to be traumatised. Absolutely nobody can say they didn't go in open eyed. The vietnam movies and books and stories are all right there. Hell, I've heard Gulf War 1 veterans saying they were traumatised by walking along the Highway of Death looking at all the bodies of Iraqis they smoked.
Real effect on the USA of all of this? Zip. Nada. Squelch. Some guys with a hardon for trauma porn got what they were looking for. The rest of the country goes on pretty much the same.
Meanwhile your mujahideen are starving and crying to the USA for aid that's not coming.
america with...
>american exceptionalism
>manifest destiny
reminder that america was literally willed by God and is the promised land. One Nation Under God. It is Israel 2.0 the greatest nation on earth and all the so called "christian savior" larpers such as russia are nothing more than poor immitations, evidently destined to fail. the usa is the greatest nation to ever exist. thirdies and yuropoors cope seethe and dialate.
shitskins cannot fight
Invading Iraq and Afghanistan was stupid. Wasted over 20 god damn years larping in the desert killing camel herders in caves.
Should have just made a hit list of potential targets responsible for 9/11 and send a bunch of assassins to the Middle East and call it a day.
Imagine what the military could've been doing for 20 years instead.
All of this, just to appease our circumcised overlords.
America actually had logistics, and Iraq like most middle eastern countries have a shit show of a standing military and are only good when they become guerilla. Russia has no logistics and are fighting a much better fore
50k American deaths and losing over half of your Air Force and returning to status quo is winning. Amazing.
>50k American deaths
lol divide that by 5 to get a more accurate number
>decimating a shitskin's standing army is the same as civilizing said shitskin country
>thinking alliances mean anything in the shithole that is the middle east
more cope. shitskins are so awful at fighting they have to conflate clear military victories with the impossible. instead, they scatter like roaches, and resort to IED and using children as suicide bombers to have any sort of a chance.
>take out saddam and usher in pro iranian govmt after 20 years
EPIC WIN!
Everything
Did the Iraqis even put on a fight in Baghdad? I don't remember much going on
We had been bombing them for ten years already
Coalition of israelite bot states
Ech just to be generous to vatniks I whould compare it to fallujah but even then US didn't level the city to the ground
Temp tempo tempo
America has vast amounts of money, good military technology and Whites run the military unlike Puccia also Iraq wishes they could be a tenth as competent as Ukraine
Saddam's army was army was rekt back in Desert Storm and the sanctions prevented him from rebuilding It. The US also maintained a NFZ from 1991 right until the day of the invasion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones_conflict
So it's as if Russia destroyed the UAF and have been controlling Its airspace since 2014 until the start of the SMO in 2022
Sead, Russia can't sead or feed