I have conveniently patented the lower atmosphere as an organically sourced, renewable, biological nano-armour.
I am afraid I am going to have to ask you to leave Anon, as you are currently both trespassing on private property and using my product without paying for it first.
>poos finally get ~NIJ IV plates in 2024
Late to the party but honestly better than I expected so good for them. Definitely never gonna see full adoption.
moronic and irrelevant response. Also, people on PrepHole and here on /k/ have indeed made their own armor.
Its too bad, the INSAS looks neat.
It's that FN DNA. Parts on the front end like the flash hider, gas block, and handguard clearly have inspiration from the FNC and FAL.
How does that mean the body armor is ingenious?
I don’t have the resources of an entire country and if I did, making body armor wouldn’t be an impressive feat.
I have a vest I call an otv. It was contracted out to point blank for manufacture and I invented it with my credit card at a point of sale terminal. I assume the same is true of this shit.
I guess he's comparing to the Russian style of body armors that they may be more familiar with, which consists of an array of smaller tiles of armor bound together inside the vest.
Probably means a monocrystalline structure of the ceramic elements of the plate.
Solid materials are either monocrystalline, polycrystalline or amorphous in structure
There's different ways plates are constructed. Some are monolithic, some are built up from smaller tiles. Watch some videos from buffman range. He cuts them open so you can get an idea of what they look like on the inside.
>Can stop 7.62x54 API bullets
Knowing Indian levels of corruption and production quality, it probably failed against 9mm in the test (if the test even happened) and the production variant plates will probably crumble when inserted into the carrier.
India's indigenous weapons programs are literally just a way for some minister's extended family to get rich by scamming the beaucracy.
5.56x30 MARS has 1200J of energy from a 10" barrel, 5.56x30 MINSAS has 550J of energy from a 12" barrel. They're not really comparable apart from the general dimensions.
I'm not actually sure what the difference is, there's not a lot of data on either of them. I'm pretty sure 5.56x30 MARS is just a shortened 5.56x45, but I can't find any information about the MINSAS. Its cartridge might be closer to the 5.56x29 Colt SCAMP, which is much smaller, both in OAL and in diameter.
2 weeks ago
Indian shill
It is inspired from the colt mars but the round doesn't have any real details. The catridge has a muzzle velocity reportedly close to 900 m/s (2,950 ft/s), with a projectile of approximately 2.6 grams (40 grains). Colt mars has around 2600 ft/s muzzle velocity. Both are effective at sub-200 ranges.
https://i.imgur.com/zfRv5aw.jpeg
>indian body armor
Saar that's the Police for riot management.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's 40gr at 650 m/s out of a 300mm barrel according to the agency that designed it, and I see no evidence that it has any relation whatsoever to the 5.56x30 MARS apart the case length and bullet diameter. Do you have a picture of a MINSAS cartridge? That would answer some questions.
Oh, there was a picture in the PDF. It definitely looks like it's narrower than .223, maybe a little wider than 5.7x28.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/scHNibt.jpeg
I do think this carbine they made is neat, at the very least for giving a second lease on life to the 5.56x30 MARS round.
It is inspired from the colt mars but the round doesn't have any real details. The catridge has a muzzle velocity reportedly close to 900 m/s (2,950 ft/s), with a projectile of approximately 2.6 grams (40 grains). Colt mars has around 2600 ft/s muzzle velocity. Both are effective at sub-200 ranges.
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Saar that's the Police for riot management.
5.56x30 MARS has 1200J of energy from a 10" barrel, 5.56x30 MINSAS has 550J of energy from a 12" barrel. They're not really comparable apart from the general dimensions.
https://i.imgur.com/YVrH47B.jpeg
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The MARS reminds me of the Kurz
wtf is this special snowflake crap, just use 5.7x28mm like any normal human being
also we have a bunch of weird nerds who would do this shit for free in their garages but don't mind getting 60-120K to do it in a state of the art facility.
>make good enough product >get paid >make bad products >start controversy and get thrown under the bus by your rich "friends" to protect their own profits
>realise if you make a quality product, you get another contract for more money.
This guy still believes in free market mantras in 2024 lmao
>Commie thinks Communism is a panacea for corruption >The most corrupt form of government
The American MIC "corruption" consists of "I want it built in MY district, not that other guy's."
Was this post made by an AI or a child? That doesn't hold true for anything from food, to guns, to cars, or to defense industry stuff. Free market tends to result in a multitude of options at different prices and levels of quality for different types of consumers. Like, if you have basic logic skills and are a real human being you should already know that since that is literally our reality
This is literally empirically false. Markets have gotten ever more highly regulated, quality of product has fallen equally. Meanwhile Soviet and Chinese products were and are literally infamous for how dogshit they were, even compared to other Commie nations.
If regulated markets are bad, why did the markets get regulated in the first place?
The markets used to be completely free and deregulated, which resulted in a dystopia in which in people having to drink milk mixed with carcinogen chemicals.
Market regulation arose from the need for preserving public health and safety.
Right wingers are the dumbest people in every society.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Regulation can be good. Regulation can also be bad. Centralization is almost invariably bad.
Not wanting some of the most incompetent people around (politicians) in charge of things tends to kill things.
The shit you're trying to espouse is dispellable in a few clicks.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Doesn't mean you toss the baby from the bathwater. Rules exist because people misbehave without them, tale as old as time. Hate the rules or the people administering them, but that is another matter. People abuse freedom, same for laissez-faire markets, which is when the regulators step in. If that kills things it doesnt deserve to survive in the first place.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You act as if it's a total binary. There's a wide fricking chasm between central planning and total anarchy.
There's even wide gulfs in detail, in how you apply what regulations.
But dude saying that private ownership of equity and resources only produces the worst results, central planning produces the best results, and that not wanting central planning/communism makes you right wing are all patently moronic.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
'if doing a lot of something is bad, why did they do a little bit in the first place?'
This is you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Regulating markets is good for the people doing the regulating, and for the people who are friends with the people doing the regulating. That's why it happens.
Any system in place too long becomes naturally corrupt, the more power in the hands of less people the faster the process. You need a system shakeup once every so often else merit rarely gets a chance to shine above mediocrity and good enough.
>Le INSAS is bad because it is ok?
The Indian military suffers from the same problems as arab armies. The level of morale and discipline varies plenty. Although there's Indian equipment good enough it's best to keep discussion of it off of /k/...
Seriously think how asinine it is for you to suggest indians don't have any functional equipment when they are dealing with COIN across an entire continent.
Third world militaries are unironically hilarious to watch, it's insane to see an entire army where not one single dude has the sense to think "Huh, we should wear uniform equipment and do our best to make it actually fit and move with our body".
t. spent years in the mid 2000s handing millions of USD to Iraqis just for them to blow it (with receipts, at least) on absurdly stupid mismatched airsoft gear
Well, that's the fricking thing, we weren't "just throwing money" at them by any means. We would come up with comprehensive lists of equipment for them, explain how to distro it and why, what their alternative options could reasonably be, etc., and they would say "Yeah sounds good", and then just frick it up anyway. Fricking worthless subhumans.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>B-but we gave them instructions and everything!
Lol. LMAO. And people wonder where all the taxpayers' money goes.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What you described is exactly what throwing money at a problem is.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No anon, throwing money at a problem is writing blank checks for morons with no guidance. This is a different type of waste.
https://i.imgur.com/L5gmvcJ.gif
>B-but we gave them instructions and everything!
Lol. LMAO. And people wonder where all the taxpayers' money goes.
Well, we ended up having to pick up their procurement ourselves and ended up issuing them BDUs and ACU clones made in the US primarily, so at least some American company somewhere made money. Still a waste, because their moron Jundees thought Alibaba Chinesium looked cooler and would just wear that anyway.
>Posts a picture of a rag tag group of dinks absolutely dwarfed by the massive size of their M16s and helmets.
Maybe they should stick to black pajamas and pith helmets.
>Lvl 6 BIS
Indian standard >And isn't Level IV plates old news already?
It's comparitively lighter than your average.level 4 bpj weighing at around 9kg's compared to your standard 10-12 kg level 4 bpj
Does anyone In the world even take India or Indians seriously? Other than Indians themselves of course. And that plate carrier looks like it was designed by AI, it's literally CAF fishing vest tier quality.
No, other than its neighbors, The Chinks are beefing with the curry Black folk mainly b/c the Himalayas are the source of water for so much of Asia. The Pakis take the dotheads seriously b/c every war they've fought w/ India has ended up the Pajeets pushing the shit in of the Pakis.
Indians like to take photos of western gear and pass it off as their own to get easy clout from braindead India stronk nationalists. Like this image. Look familiar?
>lightweight ballistic helmets that can stop 9mm from 20m
Why is this even on the chart? A lot of steel helmets can stop 9mm from near point blank (including shit that India used themselves) let alone composite helmets
Also, I'm pretty sure that the images were ripped from an old US program.
>India does it again!
Well you'd better plan on giving one to every single one of your hindu and muslim expatriates who entered western nations dishonestly as neo colonists pretending to be asylum seekers or 'international students' because they they may need them.
Colonists moved to Canada and industrialized it from nothing. Shitdians are just parasites coming in to benefit off the collective hard work of others.
I literally don't care when morons on youtube build level iv+ plates with hardware store bathroom tiles and a backing of craft store nylon fabric and melted (HDPE) grocery bags.
Make like Ghandi and get shot in the face, Pajeet.
You'll have to enlighten me about the ingenious part, Anon. These just seem like standard, military-grade body armour to me.
Show me the one you made.
Show me yours
Nice admission that you have nothing to show for, subparjeet.
I have conveniently patented the lower atmosphere as an organically sourced, renewable, biological nano-armour.
I am afraid I am going to have to ask you to leave Anon, as you are currently both trespassing on private property and using my product without paying for it first.
what a stupid fricking retort
>poos finally get ~NIJ IV plates in 2024
Late to the party but honestly better than I expected so good for them. Definitely never gonna see full adoption.
moronic and irrelevant response. Also, people on PrepHole and here on /k/ have indeed made their own armor.
It's that FN DNA. Parts on the front end like the flash hider, gas block, and handguard clearly have inspiration from the FNC and FAL.
How does that mean the body armor is ingenious?
I don’t have the resources of an entire country and if I did, making body armor wouldn’t be an impressive feat.
Ok saar i will do the needful and redeem the body armor
Pls saar okay redeem it okay saar maan bloody b***h frick you saar do Not redeeem maaan
>What color is your body armor?
I have a vest I call an otv. It was contracted out to point blank for manufacture and I invented it with my credit card at a point of sale terminal. I assume the same is true of this shit.
DO NOT REDEEM SIR
No one here claimed to have made ingenious body armor. You're full of shit
SAAAAAR
>least moronic poojeet
It says indigenous, not ingenious
sub-3rd grade reading comprehension
American/10
sub-continent reading comprehension
>monolithic ceramic
what? as in 100% solid? no aerated gaps?
I guess he's comparing to the Russian style of body armors that they may be more familiar with, which consists of an array of smaller tiles of armor bound together inside the vest.
oh, so it's ork terms then
Probably means a monocrystalline structure of the ceramic elements of the plate.
Solid materials are either monocrystalline, polycrystalline or amorphous in structure
No he means it's a monolithic slab of ceramic as opposed to something like picrel.
How would one be able to tell if his plates are like that? Asking for a friend.
There's different ways plates are constructed. Some are monolithic, some are built up from smaller tiles. Watch some videos from buffman range. He cuts them open so you can get an idea of what they look like on the inside.
Man, compacted shit has some incredible uses. Maybe they'll share this technology. Plenty of cattle in the US.
You've got the braindead robotic shill part really well rehearsed, congratulations.
>DRDO
A twitter rando has more credibility
>Can stop 7.62x54 API bullets
Knowing Indian levels of corruption and production quality, it probably failed against 9mm in the test (if the test even happened) and the production variant plates will probably crumble when inserted into the carrier.
India's indigenous weapons programs are literally just a way for some minister's extended family to get rich by scamming the beaucracy.
Its too bad, the INSAS looks neat.
I do think this carbine they made is neat, at the very least for giving a second lease on life to the 5.56x30 MARS round.
5.56x30 MARS has 1200J of energy from a 10" barrel, 5.56x30 MINSAS has 550J of energy from a 12" barrel. They're not really comparable apart from the general dimensions.
ah, I thought it was pretty much the same round.
I'm not actually sure what the difference is, there's not a lot of data on either of them. I'm pretty sure 5.56x30 MARS is just a shortened 5.56x45, but I can't find any information about the MINSAS. Its cartridge might be closer to the 5.56x29 Colt SCAMP, which is much smaller, both in OAL and in diameter.
It is inspired from the colt mars but the round doesn't have any real details. The catridge has a muzzle velocity reportedly close to 900 m/s (2,950 ft/s), with a projectile of approximately 2.6 grams (40 grains). Colt mars has around 2600 ft/s muzzle velocity. Both are effective at sub-200 ranges.
Saar that's the Police for riot management.
It's 40gr at 650 m/s out of a 300mm barrel according to the agency that designed it, and I see no evidence that it has any relation whatsoever to the 5.56x30 MARS apart the case length and bullet diameter. Do you have a picture of a MINSAS cartridge? That would answer some questions.
https://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/sites/default/files/technology-focus-documrnt/TF_Oct_2021.pdf
Oh, there was a picture in the PDF. It definitely looks like it's narrower than .223, maybe a little wider than 5.7x28.
The MARS reminds me of the Kurz
wtf is this special snowflake crap, just use 5.7x28mm like any normal human being
They basically did, it's pretty much identical to 5.7x28 performance.
That mars sight is kino on that thing.
It's just a worse Galil. At least the Galil has a bottle opener in the foregrip.
So basically the MIC in every capitalist country ever?
Americans are just better at it and realise if you make a quality product, you get another contract for more money.
also we have a bunch of weird nerds who would do this shit for free in their garages but don't mind getting 60-120K to do it in a state of the art facility.
>realise if you make a quality product, you get another contract for more money.
This guy still believes in free market mantras in 2024 lmao
>make good enough product
>get paid
>make bad products
>start controversy and get thrown under the bus by your rich "friends" to protect their own profits
Not really, no, just the third world.
>Commie thinks Communism is a panacea for corruption
>The most corrupt form of government
The American MIC "corruption" consists of "I want it built in MY district, not that other guy's."
Lol moron. In practice capitalism means the poorest quality product sold at the highest price possible.
Was this post made by an AI or a child? That doesn't hold true for anything from food, to guns, to cars, or to defense industry stuff. Free market tends to result in a multitude of options at different prices and levels of quality for different types of consumers. Like, if you have basic logic skills and are a real human being you should already know that since that is literally our reality
Damn you're fricking stupid I'm amazed you can read and write
off yourself moronic trolling parasite
This is literally empirically false. Markets have gotten ever more highly regulated, quality of product has fallen equally. Meanwhile Soviet and Chinese products were and are literally infamous for how dogshit they were, even compared to other Commie nations.
If regulated markets are bad, why did the markets get regulated in the first place?
The markets used to be completely free and deregulated, which resulted in a dystopia in which in people having to drink milk mixed with carcinogen chemicals.
Market regulation arose from the need for preserving public health and safety.
Right wingers are the dumbest people in every society.
Regulation can be good. Regulation can also be bad. Centralization is almost invariably bad.
Not wanting some of the most incompetent people around (politicians) in charge of things tends to kill things.
The shit you're trying to espouse is dispellable in a few clicks.
Doesn't mean you toss the baby from the bathwater. Rules exist because people misbehave without them, tale as old as time. Hate the rules or the people administering them, but that is another matter. People abuse freedom, same for laissez-faire markets, which is when the regulators step in. If that kills things it doesnt deserve to survive in the first place.
You act as if it's a total binary. There's a wide fricking chasm between central planning and total anarchy.
There's even wide gulfs in detail, in how you apply what regulations.
But dude saying that private ownership of equity and resources only produces the worst results, central planning produces the best results, and that not wanting central planning/communism makes you right wing are all patently moronic.
'if doing a lot of something is bad, why did they do a little bit in the first place?'
This is you.
Regulating markets is good for the people doing the regulating, and for the people who are friends with the people doing the regulating. That's why it happens.
Any system in place too long becomes naturally corrupt, the more power in the hands of less people the faster the process. You need a system shakeup once every so often else merit rarely gets a chance to shine above mediocrity and good enough.
Also post guns.
>Le INSAS is bad because it is ok?
The Indian military suffers from the same problems as arab armies. The level of morale and discipline varies plenty. Although there's Indian equipment good enough it's best to keep discussion of it off of /k/...
Seriously think how asinine it is for you to suggest indians don't have any functional equipment when they are dealing with COIN across an entire continent.
I think the Indians have plenty of perfectly functional rifles, it's just the indigenously designed one that's garbage.
>indian body armor
Third world militaries are unironically hilarious to watch, it's insane to see an entire army where not one single dude has the sense to think "Huh, we should wear uniform equipment and do our best to make it actually fit and move with our body".
whether or not they think that doesn't matter, they dont have the money for it because it's all embezzled and/or they have moronic procurment.
Oh no, even when they have the money, they don't.
t. spent years in the mid 2000s handing millions of USD to Iraqis just for them to blow it (with receipts, at least) on absurdly stupid mismatched airsoft gear
>Throwing money at a problem doesn't solve it
A tale as old as time. Recent history shows that it's not going to change anytime soon.
Well, that's the fricking thing, we weren't "just throwing money" at them by any means. We would come up with comprehensive lists of equipment for them, explain how to distro it and why, what their alternative options could reasonably be, etc., and they would say "Yeah sounds good", and then just frick it up anyway. Fricking worthless subhumans.
>B-but we gave them instructions and everything!
Lol. LMAO. And people wonder where all the taxpayers' money goes.
What you described is exactly what throwing money at a problem is.
No anon, throwing money at a problem is writing blank checks for morons with no guidance. This is a different type of waste.
Well, we ended up having to pick up their procurement ourselves and ended up issuing them BDUs and ACU clones made in the US primarily, so at least some American company somewhere made money. Still a waste, because their moron Jundees thought Alibaba Chinesium looked cooler and would just wear that anyway.
which is moronic procurment.
Sometimes having your guys wear a mish-mash of gear looks really fricking good.
>Posts a picture of a rag tag group of dinks absolutely dwarfed by the massive size of their M16s and helmets.
Maybe they should stick to black pajamas and pith helmets.
imprassave sar
Wtf is level 6 BIS? And isn't Level IV plates old news already?
>Lvl 6 BIS
Indian standard
>And isn't Level IV plates old news already?
It's comparitively lighter than your average.level 4 bpj weighing at around 9kg's compared to your standard 10-12 kg level 4 bpj
wouldn't be surprised if they got the components from alibaba and just glued them together in poojistan.
but can it stop the penetrating cum-blast??
Does anyone In the world even take India or Indians seriously? Other than Indians themselves of course. And that plate carrier looks like it was designed by AI, it's literally CAF fishing vest tier quality.
No, other than its neighbors, The Chinks are beefing with the curry Black folk mainly b/c the Himalayas are the source of water for so much of Asia. The Pakis take the dotheads seriously b/c every war they've fought w/ India has ended up the Pajeets pushing the shit in of the Pakis.
Indians like to take photos of western gear and pass it off as their own to get easy clout from braindead India stronk nationalists. Like this image. Look familiar?
https://www.indiatimes.com/culture/who-we-are/indian-army-s-future-infantry-soldiers-to-get-lethal-weapons-and-better-protection-269775.html
>rifles that 'shoot to kill'
Damn, India is unstoppable now
>rifles that shoot to kill
Yeah I sure hope so kek. Did they not before?
No, they'd Shit to kill.
5.56 was supposed to injure rather than kill
>marginally more believable than ghana's supersoldiers
The sirs just can't stop winning
The picture is from an old US army land warrior concept from the 90s
Guy in the middle looks like he's ready to fight the good fight for GDI.
Dude on the right looks like mobile infantry in M81 woodland.
>stops armor piercing incendiary rounds saar, if it kills you come get your refund saar
>shoes
what is this advanced technology, incredible
>lightweight ballistic helmets that can stop 9mm from 20m
Why is this even on the chart? A lot of steel helmets can stop 9mm from near point blank (including shit that India used themselves) let alone composite helmets
Also, I'm pretty sure that the images were ripped from an old US program.
>shoes
My god
is that a shin guard from a unsc army trooper?
>that "shoot to kill"
As opposed to what, before this? Keklmao
CAN I HAVE SOME SHOES
>BPJ
>BJP is name of ruling political party
The developers are ass kissers, likely corrupt and lying about how many bullets it can stop
>”Ingenious level of workers doing!”
>video of Indian wearing sandals and dying in a steel foundry.
>India does it again!
Well you'd better plan on giving one to every single one of your hindu and muslim expatriates who entered western nations dishonestly as neo colonists pretending to be asylum seekers or 'international students' because they they may need them.
Westerners are ineffective cucks, armor would be worse than useless.
Colonists moved to Canada and industrialized it from nothing. Shitdians are just parasites coming in to benefit off the collective hard work of others.
Where is the first part of “again”? India is a disgusting subhuman poo country.
The Internet has gotten measurably worse since the participation of Indians
"Dead Internet Theory" is really just "subnormal subcontinental subhumans on the internet theory".
Hopefully a plague takes them soon.
>they unironically think they're not also part of the problem
Wake me up when Eternal September ends
>and yet you are also part of the Internet
>I am very intelligent
implessive
I literally don't care when morons on youtube build level iv+ plates with hardware store bathroom tiles and a backing of craft store nylon fabric and melted (HDPE) grocery bags.
If it's made out of indian's stomach tissues i believe it can work.
How much cow shit would it take to stop a 9mm?
A standard cow patty won't.
Don't ask me how I know.