i'm really interested in seeing how this will pan out. what will be the role of local partisans?
i'm really interested in seeing how this will pan out. what will be the role of local partisans?
i'm really interested in seeing how this will pan out. what will be the role of local partisans?
>local partisans
lmao what
Most people there are pro Russian
Lol imagine believing this
most of the people polled recently said they are pro-russian why would someone lie on a general poll.
>trusting Russian sources for anything remotely PR-related
There was a redditor
that's a poll to know who to gulag that week
source?
>Take over city
>Most of the people who hate you leave
>Deport the rest that hate you
>All the 2.000 people still there love me!
Ukraine has been saying Russians bused people in and gave them apartments of people who fled the city months ago
so what thats not illegal not our fault if some people leave? we are helping rebuild their communities
>We have an invasive colonial pattern that is is more akin to the cuckoo bird than, say, Israeli's Cisjordania kibboutz building.
>We deserve to live and are savior of the white race against globohomeau western world despite having the technical knowhow of 1990's Brazil.
Enjoy being Chinese is less than a decade russki.
You are fighting Saddam's Iran war in Ukraine and will get shafted and bought like Saddam's was with Koweït.
Operation "Kazakhstan freedom" right when your Ukraine hodgepodge end up in a stalemate, mark my words.
>invade country
>Destroy infrastructure
>people flee in terror
>invaders bus in thugs and krokadil addicts to replace population and artificially establish regional support
Totally legitimate, such a noble effort
It actually falls under the definition of genocidal acts if you displace a population and actively replace them
They went away themselves
Whites fleeing to the suburbs when Black folk moved into the cities wasn’t genocide and this isn’t either, if it’s even happening at all
Those people would probably be welcomed back into Kherson but I’m guessing that Italy or wherever else they fled to is nicer
If the motivation for leaving is judged as being a result of violence from foreign powers it's displacement and genocide. Your flawed logic has been patched and countered long ago.
>incoherent ramblings about Black folk and identity politics grievances while defending Russia
Goddamn we need to round all your sort up and put you into camps.
>Goddamn we need to round all your sort up and put you into camps.
Bring it on.
>this isn’t either, if it’s even happening at all
Unironic "didn't happen, but they deserved it" shilling
This is the same false pretense white supremacists use to peddle the white genocide myth.
if it's actually happening, with hard documented evidence, then it isn't a myth. your being a real woman, is, however, a myth. or a fantasy. or a delusion.
Good point. When the area is retaken all of those ‘community donations’ you sent can be put into chain gangs to rebuild things. Or just collected and processed for organs. We’ll have to test for HIV, but it’s likely some of them don’t have it.
Bait
at least someone finally gets it. and the general poll post I made.
>invade, torture locals, murder officials
>not our fault if some people leave
But that precisely IS your fault, vatnig.
It's textbook colonialism you stupid c**t.
Russia doesn’t have the population or resources to do anything like that.
>population
They have lots of useless drunkards, drug addicts, cripples and so on. Those bring nothing value back home so russia uses them as tool of conquest.
>resources
a couple busses doing back and forth is not that much resources
Yeah with a gun pointed at my head I would probably also be pro Russian if they ask me albeit temporarily.
Let's be realistic here anon.
There absolutely was lingering pro-Russian sentiment in the Kherson before the war, just like there was such sentiment in Mariupol or Kharkiv. But while it was probably mostly destroyed by the war in those places (but even according to ukrainians there are still couple thousand delusional elderly boomers who still welcome rusians as liberators), the war experience is very different for the Ukrainians in Kherson. Where people in Mariupol had their home bombed to shit and half of their family killed by the Russians, for people in Kherson the war really only meant that Russians rolled into the city without a single shell landing there. They experienced none of the Russian barbarity. Add onto that the Russian propaganda that started the moment Russians came coupled with presumably significant efforts to bribe the population into liking them (food aid etc.) and I have no doubt that strong pro-Russian sentiment still exists there.
I doubt its a majority of population, but still.
Kherson survived because the Ukrainian military backed out very quickly, no large Azov or SBU presence forcing people to stay and fight. Notice how in both Mariupol and Severodonetsk, large groups of civilians were held hostage in industrial areas by the holed up Ukrainian forces there. Ukraine repeatedly makes the same play of putting civilians in danger when they have the opportunity and resources available, because they know they can count on western media covering for them, unfortunately for them they can't control the narrative online.
Are Russians still going for the whole hohol nazis use civvies as human shields? Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Yuk civvies don’t want nothing with Russians because they’re a bunch of looting, rapist snow Black folk?
>unfortunately for them they can't control the narrative online.
Lol, keep pretending your homosexual shilling is making some kind of impact...
>defending homeland is holding civilians as hostage
yeah why don't they move out of every city and let Russia capture them and they fight from the open field
Christ anon
yea https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1546473188254748672
>car explosion
Car-ma got him!
TELL ME ABOUT CARLOS, WHY DOES HE MAKE THE PUNS.
Carlos you frick
you made your last pun you goddamn clown spic
Nice to see that the Irish arms shipment arrived at the front.
Just stop.
The idea that southern Ukraine is Russophone is a meme btw. The cities are split relatively evenly and the countryside leans Ukrainian. Russia lies to themselves about this because they need it to have an excuse to also take Odessa and link up with Transdnister
This. The cities speak Russian because it was imposed as the administrative language. The countryside mostly speaks Ukrainian because they were less affected.
Maybe the Anglos should claim all land where people speak English. Considering there are 17 million English speakers in Russia, that's a significant oppressed Anglo minority that needs to be liberated.
Headcanon
>The idea that southern Ukraine is Russophone is a meme btw.
This is just dishonest. Any sympathy Ukraine had for Russia died when boots crossed the border
>Russophone
Stop parroting this red herring already. ‘Russophone’ is just an official euphemism, a Ukrainian (or Buryat, or churka) that only speaks Russian isn’t any more Russian for that, just like a Black person who learn German doesn’t magically become German. The Russo-Ukrainian conflict is ethnic.
>‘Russophone’ is just an official euphemism, a Ukrainian (or Buryat, or churka) that only speaks Russian isn’t any more Russian for that, just like a Black person who learn German doesn’t magically become German. The Russo-Ukrainian conflict is ethnic.
If they speak Russian as their primary language(such as with family), they are by definition Russian ethnicity. You can't claim to be a member of a Nation when you don't even speak their language. Looking at you, "Ireland". Also looking at all the "Irish-Americans" and "German-Americans", bunch of homosexual larpers
>t. unironic civnat cuck
its shameful isnt it. idk how they look at themselves in a mirro
So America doesn't exist as a nation?
Most of Belarusians speak Russian but the people behave noticeably different. Foreigners that met both confirm. Ukrainians also behave noticeably different from Russians and Belarusians. It can be harder to distinguish between Poles and Germans than between Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians abroad, based on the way they dress and behave.
Can you give a quick skinny on how the 3 behave?
Russians and Ukrainians are sociable, extroverted, loud, opinionated. Russians dress wannabe rich, usually ends up looking cheap. Cheap plastic surgery and lip fillings common on women. Ukrainians dress more alt. Both are often adventurous and impulsive.
Belarusians are quiet and keep to themselves, dress neutral, withdrawn/autistic, won't cause trouble unless Karen, but will take a while to actually engage with you.
To add, Russians are more likely to fight you and parrot propaganda even when otherwise sane and intelligent. Ukrainians are more likely to spout schizo theories and take advantage of you financially than fight.
>If they speak Russian as their primary language they are by definition Russian ethnicity
Just like the German israelites were ethnically German too or what
this dude just invalidated 90% of the countries on earth because the dont speak "name of country"-ian/ish as their primary language.
uh huh, and tell me when Elvis gets here
no proof Russians ever made it to Kherson
>what will be the role of local partisans?
Texting the location of Russians troops to Ukie troops.
they already do this, some very painful HIMARS strikes have landed in Kherson lately
Lol what?
The threat of a sniper is almost as devastating as an actual sniper, when it comes to trying to advance in an urban setting. If you fire one shot from deep within a room, there is virtually no way to find the shooter either.
It's one of the main lessons learned in Iraq.
Is it possible to use HIMARS and other high tech NATO SPGs as vicinity support, for infatry?
>the Gunt of Lugansk
>they say he sank 12 Russian vehicles by jumping into the river next to their pontoon bridge
>Proud son of Kherson
You mean for like local infantry support? Yeah, Coalition forces called HIMARS strikes in in that way, and NATO guns are meant for doing fire missions of that kind as a function of their existence. HIMARS aren't just strategic weapons, but the issue would be how far the launchers are from the frontline to e effective in that role. I doubt they'd be willing to put them so close that they'd be as effective as just tube artillery.
Imagine.
You're a Russian soldier stationed outside some tiny village near the frontlines in Donbass, manning some piece of artillery, the fighting has died down for now, so you're just fricking around doing whatever to pass the time with the few other guys next to you. The silence is immediately shattered by a loud THUD. You and your mates scramble, thinking the AFU has found your position and are gonna shell the frick out of you, but nothing happens, you radio HQ and they are just as baffled as you are, either way, it's time to get ready for whatever happens. And then...
*THUD*
Recon contacts you and says there's an unknown enemy unit heading in your direction, but they can't make out what. You fire on the coordinates and hope for the best and for a while, silence returns...
*THUD*
You get contacted by a frantic drone operator, whatever the hell that was is closing the distance at unprecedented speeds. Just as you sit there trying to take all of this in, you hear the sounds of tree branches breaking in the distance. Out of the thick, green forest a giant figure leaps towards the heavens with lightning speeds, as it flies closer to your position everything slows down and you, against your will, take in the sight of this absolute beast of a man, this monument to western decadence and gluttony, a face that shows the fury of a thousand suns and a shirt covered in sauces from every major fast food chain in the western world.
*THUD*
He lands in front of you, unleashing a primordial war cry that shatters your minds and ears, in one fell swoop, the artillery piece you were tasked with guarding and operating becomes just another meal as he wolfs it down, you and your squadmates cannot help but stand there in terror. You can hear HQ on the radio, begging you to answer, but any desire to speak has long since left your body.
>"This is the part where you run away"
The behemoth utters in his flamboyant yet terrifying voice.
All of you flee and never look back.
Is this fnaf expanded lore?
things are worse than you understand
He is approaching his final form. Soon he will be ready- 3 days of no food and unleash him on the Russians.
>he actually was born in Kherson
is this real life or is it just memery?
>partisans
I still have no fricking idea how big of a thing this actually is. Don't get me wrong, I am very pro-Ukrainian but this just reads like its too perfect to be true. I mean obviously there are strikes behind Russian lines - But how much of that is it Ukrainian SF? How much of the assassinations are just personal vendettas or power struggles ala post-2014 Donbas?
I am not saying that most people are pro-russian or anything (although given the region mostly escaped the wonders of russkiy mir unlike places like Mariupol or Kharkiv i have no doubt that Kherson does still have a sizeable pro-Russian population) just that I am pretty doubtful over this sort of massive partisan activity being real.
Some of the killed are simple alcoholics or policemen who got the job. I doubt they had enemies with enough ability to actually plan a hit
>I am pretty doubtful over this sort of massive partisan activity being real.
You don't really need many people to make life hell for occupation troops. 1 bullet a night from some random sniper is probably enough to make sure they will never leave barracks.
Anon, if you have a guy with a gun looking down a city road and he fires one bullet out of a window in the general direction of your force, you can't move down that road.
It's really not a thing. The "partisans" are SBU agents who stayed behind enemy lines to sabotage and occasionally send enemy troop locations back to Kiev. The average citizen wants no part in this conflict, be it for either side. Sergei and Dima just want to go to work and have a nice dinner, not fight for corrupt Ukrianian oligarchs or corrupt Russian politicians.
You're a fricking moronic Black person. You don't get too many volunteers to even arm if the people don't give a shit. Most Ukrainians care about Ukraine.
Also that c**t must've escaped donbabwe because she's way too much to russian tastes.
>100k Ukrainians living abroad RETURN to the country at the start of the conflict
>Dude nobody wants any part of this, trust me!
Dipshit.
Molotovs are cheap. Poisoned vodka is also another strategy.
This is fricking golden
>Yes. There are 12 200’s *dead*… Not our command, the one that is like… the most f*cking important one in our direction. […] I told these morons, don’t dig this way, this is a complete f*cking bullsh*t. They made pits in a checkerboard pattern, and some sh*t in the middle, between them. I told them as soon as even one pit is hit it will f*ck everything up. They said – “no, the checkerboard pattern, the adjacent pits won’t catch fire. I told them “you f*ckheads, as soon as shrapnels start flying this will all catch fire!”. I said they needed separate pits, se-pa-rate! They shouldn’t be connected to one another. He said – “don’t be a smarta*s”. I said – fine. I came back when all this f*ckery exploded, asked – what now. They said – “how did you know?!”. I said – “you’re f*cked in the head!”.
https://wartranslated.com/intercepted-call-reveals-details-of-the-kherson-command-strike-by-ukrainian-forces/
Knowing Russians this is a very believable situation. "Don't be a smart-ass" should be tattooed on their head, the amount of times I've heard it being used in several situations.
>checkerboard pattern
>Russians think real life is like dnd where it takes two spaces to move diagonally.
>checkerboard pattern
Black folk went full manipular jfc
>“don’t be a smarta*s”
lel It's usually "look how he thinks he's better than us" around here.
t. slav
It'll be Zaporozhia, Ukraine has convinced both /chug/gers and Russian command alike that they aim to strike through Kherson.
Like 95% of the action of local partisans has been the local babushkas giving some bread to le heroic Puccian liberators, then taking pictures of their barracks and depots at night and whatsapping them to the UAF.
The Puccians have been complaining about the fact that they can't trust the locals, especially at night. Nowadays it's trivial to pass info to your army, you just need a cheap smartphone.
My guess is the Ukrainians are trying their best to get the Russians to leave without a fight. Kherson is at the tail end of a fairly tenuous supply line, and recent strikes by Ukraine seemed to be aimed at targeting stockpliles inside Kherson and ressuply routes east of the Dnipro.
However if the Russians dig in, the Ukrainian plan is to probably leverage their ability to blend in with civvies to make the fighting as surgical as possible.
given that kherson is mostly pro-russian ethnic russians, I suspect they'll give the invading ukrainian army a hard time. orkrainians will probably try to pull another bucha false flag event, but hopefully the russians are more prepared for it this time.
that's some shitty bait m8; put some fricking effort in ffs.
Having people run around with an old Mosin is useless. The better option for partisans is to simply report coordinates to the artillery with Telegram. In that aspect the role of locals might actually be bigger than we think
Why would Ukraine do this? Destroy the city by attacking it directly? All they need to do is threaten to cut it off and the Russians will have to retreat.
>the Russians will have to retreat.
oh yeah? who's gonna make them?
A gesture of goodwill on their behalf, as usual.
That's good news because Russia won't just end it with a couple nukes on Kyiv, Lviv.
So by trying to attack Kherson hohols will kill many more civilians and will blame the Russians again?
Why would there be Parisians in Kherson? Is that a popular tourist destination for the French?
bump
>what will be the role of local partisans?
wait it out probably