I’M NOT A VATNIK SHILL
Do we know what actually happened here, where it happened and the aftermath?
IM NOT A VATNIK SHILL. Do we know what actually happened here, where it happened and the aftermath?
I’M NOT A VATNIK SHILL
Do we know what actually happened here, where it happened and the aftermath?
Mines and artillery. I don't think they actually made any direct contact.
what artillery?
>what happened
An assault on a minefield with preprepared artillery went poorly as such things tend to do
>where
North of Tokmak
>the aftermath
Ukies abandooooned but mostly survived, and since that's the only attack Russia is willing to show us footage of it's presumably the one where the Russians did best
They got ambushed while moving through a minefield, engineering vehicle got blown up and the others couldn't maneuver.
The Ukrainians fricked up. But it also goes to show that this offensive will be incredibly costly for both sides. I am not looking forward to the day we see a burning Abrams on Russian telegram, even though it’s logically going to happen
The unfortunate reality is that even after Russrael has been completely driven out of Ukraine, lost Crimea, etc., the Russraelis and their supporters will fixate on and brag about every single White tank they managed to take out, celebrate all the death and suffering they caused Ukraine, etc., and you will never hear the end of it. The fact that they lost the war will simply be ignored.
It's gonna be pretty funny when vatniks try to spin this war as "showing that Russia can go toe to toe with NATO and win".
this rusBlack folk are literally sub human shit skins
yeah have you seen their pasty white skin? like the floor of a chicken coop.
Anyone who thought otherwise was ignorant of history.
- Serbs wont shut the frick up about the F117 even though they lost the war and were subject to humiliating peace terms
- Norks/Chinese brag about 1950 despite utterly failing to take SK
- Canadians brag about 1812, even though the Brits were the ones who burned the White House and Canada's been our pink hat for the last 150 years
This is what happened in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Iraq II, Afghanistan, even the fricking Falklands. Until we permanently eliminate or enslave the subhumans on this planet, this will always happen.
>lost the war
They lost the war in the first week. They should have retreated back to the 2014 borders and said "my bad". They'd unironically be out of sanctions right now and nothing bad would have happened to them. People still feared their military and would easily swallow the narrative that it was simply mismanaged and Russia is still strong.
Now they've laid it bare to the entire world that they are C tier at best.
it kinda seems like Germany in WWII, they invaded really hard and fast, gained ground, then dug in and got stuck once half the world teamed up to fight them
idk if that makes them a shit tier power, it's basically 1 country vs. 20 countries
No comparison in land taken or performance to Germany. You must be quite brown to be so ignorant.
No, not at all, Germany fought the world and nearly won, they kicked euro ass for ages, and lost because they got surrounded by American forces fighting at 100% with new toys, and had their backs to the Ruskie vatBlack folk, who they knew would betray them so they fought them anyway.
The only reason America won was because of a few decicise victories in key locations, one of which involved tricking the German brass into thinking the Americans would attack elsewhere so most of their armor division was located elsewhere.
Versus Russia, who fought a 2nd world nation, and got utterly destroyed in a week, then got ground to dust in a year when it turned out all their tech was rust and cum.
>Russrael
Every israelite on the planet supports Ukraine, moron.
russia is so ostentatiously shit that it offends even the israelites
Israel has been fence-sitting this whole war. And there's little difference between a regular israelite and a russian. Both are deceitful scumbags, both are sociopathic, both hate White people, etc.
And both are white
You dont fricking know what are you talking about, you 89IQ moron
Israel flat out refuses to support Ukraine and even Zelensky was vocally butthurt about Israel choosing Russia over Ukraine
Putin is israeli
Bolsheviks killed all the real Russians a century ago, and then caused WWII with their israeliteery. Russia is the most israeli nation on eaarth you absolute moron history-let.
They do this with the Winter war. In an ideal world, it shouldn't matter, because having a solid military purposefully positioned to defend and counter their aggression (see Turkey and their shootdown of Russian jets) is enough to both deter Russia and make them view you as a respectable neighbour.
So like Americans and the classic “muh kill count” copium that all the patriottards here parrot?
Ukraine won't let them forget
>Zaшли
>Oтcocaли
>Vышли
>Abrams
complete with dead American soldiers? or do you think America will actually resist the urge to send zogbots to get killed?
If America sent their forces in, Russia would be destroyed. You'd better pray they don't, Pidor. Your race is too weak and stupid to beat an Anglo-Saxon man in battle.
don't be such a sensitive cuck, I wasn't taking a side I was merely asking if anyone thought American soldiers would end up being deployed and killed? because we've seen them say they won't send in troops to places like Syria and then before you know it guys are on the ground getting killed.
>because we've seen them say they won't send in troops to places like Syria and then before you know it guys are on the ground getting killed.
Right, how did US soldiers versus Wagner go in Syria? Care to remind the class?
America won't send their own troops in without air cover and with air cover, Russia is Iraq tier.
>America won Vietnam: the post
You brought up Syria and then got so terrified to discuss Russia's performance against American troops in Syria that you deflected 50 years and 5000 miles.
>occupy a a country 11,000 kilometers away country for 20 years that is a literal jungle flooded with AA and armaments from two countries that are closer to it
>Viets suffered 20 times the casualties and had to wait 3 years after signing the peace treaty to make sure Americans won't attack again
>this is somehow the same as failing to take a city that is literally 40km away from your own border
Do thirdworld Black folk understand that vietnam is just more proof that 60s America could easily btfo russia today? Even the USSR, despite being much more powerful, is literally a failed occupation of 15 countries after failing in Afghanistan lmao and Russia is literally broken decaying remnant of it.
Your fellow wiener suckers got massacred in Syria, Pidor.
>thinking I give a shit about dead commies
lmao. stay mad you moronic homosexual.
lmao homosexual I'm sure the tens of thousands of dead soldiers in Ukraine will appreciate you lying about one of the few times the US met Russian troops head on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
>commies don't give a shit about other commies
That's just standard.
How could I be mad when your countrymen are dying?
you assume everyone who isn't spouting pro-U propaganda is a slav?
There are like 5 Anglos left in your country. The rest of you are paddies, wops, Poles, and spics.
Yeah and we're still the strongest military and can destroy anything just by looking at it if it weren't for the rest of you peons in Europe holding us back.
Funny you mention Anglo Saxons because the American fighting forces will be mostly non Anglo Saxon mutts lmao
>do you think America will actually resist the urge to send zogbots to get killed
nearing an election year? frick no
If America got directly involved the first thing you'd notice is every SAM site and airfield in Russia exploding at the same time. Russia thinks it's fighting Vietnam from the American perspective, they're really fighting the Iran Iraq war from the Iranian perspective.
Wtf are you even talking about?
People try to spin the Iraqis blowing up a handful of Abrams as a major victory when their entire country was annihlated
>People try to spin the Iraqis blowing up a handful of Abrams as a major victory when their entire country was annihlated
It's less a 'victory' and more of a demoralizing tactic. "Oh look, American soldiers died for nothing, hahaha". Then you post vatniks literally committing suicide because their commanders won't provide medevac, and you get some speech about how Russians are willing to die for the cause (unlike Americans, you see).
The real redpill is that 99% of wars throughout history had “no reason.” Like cmon, you’re telling me that Random Dude # 344 who died in the Crimean War did so for a reason other than his nation's own interests?
Modern society is a bit spoiled in that we expect our soldiers to die for a “good reason” instead of pure national interest, like it was for millennia before.
The cope that “Russia/Yugoslavia/Iraq fought against the entire world” is fricking stupid because making allies is 100% a skill
Which is why it's so funny that they think the bugmen will come and bail them out. The Chinese hate the Russians because they're irredeemable kleptomaniac snowBlack folk that fricked up everything they set their mind to almost as much as they hate having to team up for geopolitical reasons. Russia has no allies, it is only tolerated because it willingly serves as a proxy against the west. The second it stops being useful it gets a knife between its ribs.
>People try to spin the Iraqis blowing up a handful of Abrams as a major victory when their entire country was annihlated
Sad, many such cases
>Serbs and the F-117
nonce
>zogbot
/pol/tard detected. Or Z homosexual that infected their brains. Same thing in the end.
umm moronic battalion / brigade commanders not doing reconnaisannce, not doing counter battery and telling bradleys to drive down a road bunched up in the middle of the day in bright sunlight.
1. Ukrainians are moronic. 2. No air support. 3. Vastly outnumbered. 4. Russians are heavily entrenched now with many lines of defense just waiting for the offensive.
They should've just kept defending where they have the defenders advantage, but looks like their western sponsors forced them into this suicidal attack.
Good morning sirs.
Do the needful.
lol every fricking time
I don't get this meme, why would a pajeet care about the bumfight
Poos on /misc/ seem to think otherwise. Lancetjeet is an example. Dunno why they do it.
inferiority complex causes a burning desire to see the west get a comeuppance
The last time Russia tried to stop Ukrainians from eating Donetsk children, Kherson fell.
Donetsk children will be consumed regardless of what third world mutts on PrepHole say
Their suicidal attack that ahs so far penetrated 15 km along a 20-30km front at the cost of less than half a dozen confirmed vehicle losses and essentially zero confirmed casualties.
Truly suicidal...
how can confirm any casualties in this conflict, given the media on both sides are equally compromised and constantly lying about everything?
genuinely asking, please don't sperg.
Satellites see all in resolution easily enabling confirmation of vehicle kills and other combat. The world is naked from space.
>on both sides
Show me vatnik media publishing Ukrainian claims or admit that the propaganda campaign is completely one-sided just like during the Falklands.
Were these vehicles destroyed after they were abandoned by arty? Were they reclaimed by the ukies? They just look like they blew some track and are all repairable. I doubt the russians took them, otherwise we would see a shit ton of pics and videos about the captured western vehicles from vatniks
Given how Puccians on /misc/ are saying that they’ve been captured without even one photo indicating they’ve even been within 10 feet of one it’s clearly been recovered and undergoing repairs
My thoughts exactly
First good vatnigg meme i've seen in a while
Ukrainians got their shit wrecked by a Russkie mine field. First de-mining vehicle got taken out, the other ones panicked and then got blown up when arty started homing in on them. That's the nice thing about laying mines, you know where they are so you can zero in your arty ahead of time for when dummies bumble into them.
So long as the Ukies are advancing they can recover these vehicles and send them back to the EU for refurbishment.
>mine buster hits mine and blows up
>tanks go around it and keep going anyways
>lost 3 of their 6 tanks
>tanks decide they don't need mine buster after a mine blows it up
l m f a o what is the tactical advantage of blowing up in a mine field?
This, why the frick did they do it after the Russians got BTFO doing the same thing in Vuhledar?
>Ukies cleared a single path though the mines with a single mine clearer
>mine field was covered by ATGMs and pre-sighted arty
>expectable results
Sometimes the Ukies do something so stupid it reminds me they are also slavs.
Things go blown up. We sent the Ukrainians more things
Ukraine did an oof and lost some vehicles...but this hasn't really stopped their tempo in the south. Ziggers just recently blew up another dam in desperation.
So if I'm understanding this whole war correctly, and I'm playing catch up since I've just ignored it for the past year:
1.) If Russians die it's a huge victory for everyone and a catastrophic loss
2.) If Ukrainians die it's a little oopsie and not a big deal
I don't quite follow, why are we denigrating and disrespecting the sacrifices of Ukrainian fighters? There are also international fighters dying there too, lots of people from reddit and even some from PrepHole volunteered and have been killed fighting for Ukraine.
More like
1) If the second largest military on earth can't beat the ~36th largest military on earth they are bad
2) If the 36th largest military on earth can't beat the 2nd largest military on earth it's not surprising
OK just so I understand better, Ukraine is only fighting with Ukrainian soldiers, weapons, materials, machines, etc. right? They're not using anything that was like, donated? Because I thought this thread was about blown up tanks they got from Canada or some shit.
>Ukraine is only fighting with Ukrainian soldiers, weapons, materials, machines, etc. right?
No, just like Afganistan, Vietnam and Korea the small nation is getting a shitload of support from major powers, that is how proxy wars work.
well then I wouldn't say that Ukraine is "holding off" the 2nd largest army in the world, they're basically standing on the shoulders of giants and throwing rocks at the other guy
honestly i hope they both just get obliterated, that whole part of the world is a constant source of problems. just let them kill each other and turn the middle east into a parking lot. so many problems solved.
>they're basically standing on the shoulders of giants and throwing rocks at the other guy
So you consider the mujahideen victory over the USSR to actually be a US victory and the North Vietnam victory over the US to be a USSR / China victory?
I think that those doing the killing and dying are the ones deciding battles, if they run they lose and if they fight well they win.
No military technology is so advanced it's push a button to win, that is why we are seeing NATO armor burn.
>that whole part of the world is a constant source of problems
Only Russia causes problems, name a war in eastern europe since ww2 that wasn't started by Russia.
>So you consider the mujahideen victory over the USSR to actually be a US victory
Yes, and the result was the collapse of the USSR, a prime US interest
>North Vietnam victory over the US to be a USSR / China victory?
Yes, Russia went so far as to fly for North Vietnam in combat, so I don't see why you wouldn't. But note the Chinese also got their asses kicked by Vietnam after the US had their turn.
That Serb chimpout in the 90s?
True, so there is one that wasn't Russia.
notice how the closet vatnik shill now tries to assume a place of fence sitting by saying both sides are bad in an attempt to appear neutral
literally have a nice day
>you either have to support Ukraine or you're a vatnik shill!! you're either with us or you're against us!!!!
wew, talk about a 3rd grade mentality.
yes I too, name of Jony Hamburger of Nebrasksky Oblast, I am concern for so called Ukraine fighters and their bitter NATO overlords. As great premier Reagan said "To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last - but eat you he will." This is what I fear of great powerful Russia, to end up deep in the ass of the crocodile.
Ukraine clearing paths, getting ready to steamroll the area, Russians are delusional and keep spamming the loss of a few vehicles when they lost 1/3rd of their entire mercenary force on a small village, and 1/10th of their entire armor of their whole country... I wouldn't be surprised if this is all being done to overthrow all of Russia so nothing like this ever happens again, seems like they are purposely losing all of their gung-ho men.
Manipulated into purging themselves, happens every 20 years in Russia, starvation causes genetics to be altered for your next generation, they're absolute morons who need to chill out and farm.
hm damn thats like $40 of my tax dollars blown to smithereens
Ukie result of trying to push towards Tokmak from the north. Out of all the sections in the zapo front, that's one of the most fortified and manned by experienced russian vets.
Armored losses like that are bound to happen but in this case it happened in spectacular failure.
Even more surprising I recall is that all footage of this specifically happened to the AFU 47th mechanized brigade which is made up of experienced volunteers with heavy NATO equipment and training. Basically some of the best the AFU had to offer leading the way- and they ended up taking painful equipment losses of western gear for little to no gain themselves.
Their crew came out relatively unscathed themselves so they didn't entirely frick up, so at least there's that. But there's no denying this was a frick-up on the Ukrainian side
>six combat vehicles shot down three days ago.
>great success, NATO defeated, Kyiv in three days.
>Ukraine shows many videos of taking positions, destroying heavy and rocket artillery, warehouses, supply columns
>ignore ignore ignore
western equipment really is insane
get slammed, everybody lives and leaves, 9 times out of 10 recoverable for repairs
>9 times out of 10 recoverable for repairs
doesn't look applicable here.
Still a shill or moronic you can see the vehicles all lost tracks and no dead egro mine field and retreat happend. There are video spammed all the time like the picture you used
Here's my guess from what I've seen
>Ukies go in with mine clearing tanks
>start taking fire from pre-sighted arty and vatnik positions in the trees
>mine clearer/s gets disabled
>bradleys go up the cleared path to extract the tank crew/crews
>some bradleys disabled (we see one take an AGTM hit in the video)
>crews extract on surviving bradleys, Ukrainians withdraw
from what I'm hearing the area is now under Ukrainian control thanks to advances in other areas
If true only demostrated that donating more equipment is useful, and they know and are willing to use it, not like aghans.
taking fire from pre-sighted arty and vatnik positions in the trees
Where are the shell holes from bombardment? Where are the burned out vehicles?
For me looks like its all mines work. They ploughed through minefieldd. Lead plough blown up by mine. They send next one to take up place. It blew up when left the track. Vehicle on teh supposed de-mined track lost tracks on mines too. They started pull back around sides of this vehicle and lost tracks on minefield too.
For me looks like Russians set up trap mines on this minefield section. Mines buried several layers deep, tricks with fuses, explosive chain linked mines etc. Ploughs couldn't deal with them.
The mere act of extracting crews proves their superiority. The Russians would fricking run over their own men getting out.
>Nobody has posted the video yet
Frick all you worthless Black folk
https://rumble.com/v2taia4-bradley-attack.html
TL;DR clearing mines is hard. Clearing mines while people are shooting at you is really fricking hard. With the scope of what Ukraine is doing, there was no way they weren't going to have something go very wrong somewhere. The Bradley is a lot better at not killing its crew than the BMP, and we should send them more.
The video only shows a brief moment from a lengthy engagement.
>same 1 photo
if you were winning wouldnt you be posting new pictures of wins constantly?
why only this 1 over and over
hmmm....
Just like with the "tank video" we will never know what happened, because context is the bane of propaganda.
The most we can hope is some of the survivors giving out an interview much later.
The aftermath is vatniks laughing about it for a whole week. Meaning there's been nothing new to laugh at since. It's a good sign.
Why are all hatches open and why aren't there any bodies ?
Also, all turets seem to be still attached to the body, what's with that ?
Are you implying that the glorious aryan wariors just abandoned the most modern western equipment?
Yeah, when I see Russian stuff get hit it splatters in every direction, crew included.
They don't get to decide whether to abandon equipment because they are minced meat.
The best and most modern USA combined armed warfare strategy happened here.
>what happened
Minefield, and Ka-52.
KA/52 and mines.
Don't see many bodies, though.
It started with 4 vehicles and over a day it grew to like 7(maybe 11?)
So it seems Ukraine kept sending in vehicle to recover people, and kept taking more losses, but ultimately and supposedly the casualties were low.