I’m fishing rn. I love fishing but does anyone else think it’s to painful for the fish? Extremely inhumane especially compared to normal hunting. Normal hunting it’s one shot and it’s down for fish it’s getting a hook in its lip, dragged out of its home then put in a cage for a few hours or hooked on a line before dying. Pretty ironic seeing as it’s seen as very peaceful and a test of patience for us. I still love it despite this (mostly because even though I feel bad I don’t think much about it, it’ll die soon anyway, and I don’t care THAT much) but I do feel bad for the fishies. Does anyone else think this or am I just being to sensitive?
I'm vegan.
No bait on that line but I see it waiting in the text.
2/10 attempt at master baiting.
Not bait…. Why would you think it’s bait?
I should also say I do think the fact the fish is eaten makes it better (I don’t like having animals die for no reason) but still.
i agree with you bro. you can get a childs practice lure that doesnt have a hook. i used to fish with that when i was a little kid. or heck put some bait on a line without a hook! youre giving a fish a small meal. i prefer to paddle gently and observe the fish as they come to the surface. last summer the oolichan spawn was incredible, thousands of fish all around my boat
It’s okay to eat fish, they don’t have any feelings.
I’m ok with eating animals and such I don’t care about that. I’m just having a problem with how inhumane the way we kill them is
It’s still probably more humane than literally any other way a fish would die in the wild.
But it’s not my problem because I never catch a damn thing 🙂
>inhumane
You're bashing them over the head, if you are not a tard and do it right its lights out on first hit.
As opposed to being eaten by a larger predator fish in 50-100 sepearate bites or eaten whole and slowly dissolved in acid and suffocated. So terrible, God truly will frown on this. Especially something so emotionally complex like a fish.
man's conscience is his burden
I think I read somewhere that fish literally don't experience "pain," in the sense we do. Like the cause of their aversion to a physical stimulus isn't "painful," as such a thing would be to us. Idk man. I dont do fish, I do ducks.
Fish don't feel or respond to pain.
>t. never catched a fish
>t. absolute moron
Fish are morons and can't comprehend pain on the same level that we do. They do feel pain but they don't have the mental capacity to "suffer" like mammal. It's just an aversion to negative stimulus.
That and you don't have to let them suffer.
You can chop their heads off, process then, and throw them in a cooler.
It depends. You can minimize the damage and potential for serious harm by using certain methods. Like staying away from treble hooks or going barbless.
Yeah I know that feel OP. What's the most humane way to dispatch a fish? Bonk between the eyes? Knife to spine?
I've seen someone net a fish in the LA river and then bonk it with pvc pipe and it never moved again.
fishing is bad for the fish if you do things the way OP described. You can kill the fish the moment you catch it. The japanese who catch fish for sushi have a method that involves jabbing a needle/nail right through the forehead into the brain, killing it immediately. This has been studied and shown to minimize the presence of stress hormones that expedite spoilage of the meat. I just jab a knife through the back of the neck, severing the spine. Effectively dead.
homie shut the frick up you don't go outside. You aren't fishing you aren't doing shit but sitting at a computer in your boxers shitting on PrepHole. FOH!
I was outside on me mobile phone. Why are you accusing me of being a swindling liar?
I feel the same way, OP. You're not alone
Granted, this is why I usually keep what I catch, so I knock em out when I bag em
kind of, but i just dont care. acknowledging that they will die and nothing will change. same way as i slap a bug or hit a bird with a car. either they feel pain or not it doesn't matter, in the end i will be back home cozy and happy, not thinking about shit like that
>A python strangles and crushes the rabbit without remorse
>The hawk tears its breathing prey in pieces to eat it alive
>Wolves slaughter the ox together in a violent display of group power
>We should prioritize how humane we are with killing fish we catch
It is ridiculous that the animal rights movement has focused the quality of death of an animal so much higher than the quality of life. A few minutes of suffering means nothing to an animals years of free existence in the wild. This is the course of nature, and yet we have been indoctrinated by countless campaigns for decades to think otherwise.
We should be more concerned if the fish have a healthy habitat to grow, untampered by mans influence. Of course, this would require intense structural changes to civilization, surely disrupting the current power dynamic, and will therefore be ignored, rather blaming how the common man may "unethically" kill his own food.
My point isn't to torture the fish in its last moments, but if you are truly sensitive to the welfare of the animal, you should pay less mind to how you kill what you catch and greater focus on its life. Kill it however is easiest to you and move on.
good post
I'm not sure if it is or isn't bad for the fish but you're not alone
somebody on here a year or two ago was posting about a lure they designed that snapped shut like a mousetrap with a lip gripper on it but I can't find the pic
I wonder what happened to them?
Life in the water is brutal. Very rarely will a fish have a peaceful death.
I don't know if they feel it or not, and science can't seem to agree on it. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. It's not like they can tell you either way. I try to be humane about it, everyone just has to decide for themselves what they're comfortable doing.
Pull a fish up from several hundred meters deep fast and its guts will be coming out of its mouth from the change in pressure. Just kill the thing and fast. What are you catching it for anyways?
Killing a fish is babys first realisation that maybe something dies to give you meat. Get down there with a spear gun if you want
>I will catch a fish and make sure I stab it in the dome to be extra careful
>by the time I reel it in the back half was bitten off
>at least my canned tuna is ok
I usually kill and clean my fish as I go. I never catch more than I can eat that day though, so I can understand how that might not be feasible if you're stocking a freezer.
its your duty as a mammial to eat everything that isnt a mammial.
Who cares?
fish dont have feelings..