Im baffled that this actually happened in the year 2022. Were they supposed to be designated marksmen?

I’m baffled that this actually happened in the year 2022. Were they supposed to be designated marksmen? Were the Russians deliberately trying to get the fighting-age men in the Donbass killed so they couldn’t turn into insurgents against later on? I can’t believe that after having been invented three-quarters of a century earlier and being ubiquitous even in the most impoverished African shitholes, that nation that invented the AK couldn’t equip all of their proxy militias with it and instead sent them into armed with motherfricking Mosin-Nagants in 2022.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Were the Russians deliberately trying to get the fighting-age men in the Donbass killed so they couldn’t turn into insurgents against later on?
    Pretty much. They were already convinced to betray one country so by Putin's own words he can't trust them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The idea is that the break-away militas are as disposable as Convicts, with only mobiks a bit above so to reduce casualties of real military units. The females and children are deported, then they bring in their own homosexual Sovieticus to replace them. Then it becomes a loyal Russian territory forever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Then it becomes a loyal Russian territory forever.
        There is a simple solution to foreign squatters and fifth columnists.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is a simple solution to Russians and their stooges.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >something red army, save!
            God damn, I think this war is teaching me russian

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but the donbas rebels were russian sympathisers, just like the ones in crimea.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you know calling someone designated marksman implies the other guys in the squad have something different to fight with

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if whole of squad is of designate marksman, that means whole of squad will of accuracy good, da?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some of them had AKs and all the examples I’ve seen of Donbass militia armed with Mosins have scopes, so I thought that could be a possibility

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    monke wouldn't have trusted them anyway because he has no use for traitors. So they all ended up as cannon fodder.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Were the Russians deliberately trying to get the fighting-age men in the Donbass killed so they couldn’t turn into insurgents against later on?
    Yes, exactly.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Early 2022 was a total shitshow for the Russian armed forces on many levels. They barely had a legal excuse even for the initial blyatzkrieg, and suddenly found themselves without enough troops to handle what it had turned into. Because they weren't technically at war or defending Russia from some other calamity, they had to scrounge contract soldiers from places like strategic missile forces and training units just to keep things going.
    I'd guess their puppets in the LPR/DPR got the order that they need more men NOW, and equipping them was a bit of an afterthought.
    They reportedly went into places like vocational schools, local factories, etc. and pretty much grabbed everyone who looked like they could hold a rifle. Wonder how depopulated the place is at this point.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They reportedly went into places like vocational schools, local factories, etc. and pretty much grabbed everyone who looked like they could hold a rifle. Wonder how depopulated the place is at this point.
      Paraguay post 1870 levels

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this

        Early 2022 was a total shitshow for the Russian armed forces on many levels. They barely had a legal excuse even for the initial blyatzkrieg, and suddenly found themselves without enough troops to handle what it had turned into. Because they weren't technically at war or defending Russia from some other calamity, they had to scrounge contract soldiers from places like strategic missile forces and training units just to keep things going.
        I'd guess their puppets in the LPR/DPR got the order that they need more men NOW, and equipping them was a bit of an afterthought.
        They reportedly went into places like vocational schools, local factories, etc. and pretty much grabbed everyone who looked like they could hold a rifle. Wonder how depopulated the place is at this point.

        we had that one donbabwe anon (who escaped btw) talk about it. this was in October 2022 iirc
        completely depopulated. all men between like 65 and 14 were gone. Russians going door to door conscripting. it was dark stuff

        they will never recover, ever. any future population will be more than 80% outsiders.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Paraguay War of the Triple alliance era levels would be recruiting from elementary school graduation ceremonies

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember some anon on PrepHole or /misc/ who was in the LPR did a thread saying they had gangs roving round grabbing anyone who could hold a gun and he was basically hiding in the basement hoping they didn’t notice. Said wild shit that they were dragging 50 and 60yr old guys into the field just to make up the numbers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dated a girl from Donetsk 2020-2021. Knew her friends' accounts from back in Donetsk on IG. Her male friend stopped posting somewhere in 2021. Ditto for everyone else.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >blyatzkrieg

      >I can’t believe that after having been invented three-quarters of a century earlier and being ubiquitous even in the most impoverished African shitholes, that nation that invented the AK couldn’t equip all of their proxy militias with it and instead sent them into armed with motherfricking Mosin-Nagants in 2022.
      Russia literally had zero plan further than 'drive to Kiev and the enemy will surrender'. They didn't give their 'professional' troops more than ~3 days of fuel and food, the idea of arming groups like this was so far down the list it simply did not occur to them. Then the special needs operation turned into a giant mess and every little warlord and local ruler was told to mobilise what he had no excuses and thus you get people with WW2 vintage stuff. Undoubtedly they had plenty AKs of all sorts in stockpiles which is why we've not seen this happen again once they eventually unfricked their logistics.

      Also you should understand that in authoritarian regimes like this they actively did not want to arm such groups sufficiently before the war made it necessary because any armed group you don't fully control is a potential source of resistance as we saw with Wagner or shit like mobiks having to pile their guns up even in frontline trenches. So when the initial plan failed there were not arms to hand beyond whatever the loyal police-larping-as-army units already had.

      >special needs operation

      I called it Operation moronarossa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember some anon on PrepHole or /misc/ who was in the LPR did a thread saying they had gangs roving round grabbing anyone who could hold a gun and he was basically hiding in the basement hoping they didn’t notice. Said wild shit that they were dragging 50 and 60yr old guys into the field just to make up the numbers

      >I remember some anon on PrepHole or /misc/ who was in the LPR did a thread saying they had gangs roving round grabbing anyone who could hold a gun and he was basically hiding in the basement hoping they didn’t notice. Said wild shit that they were dragging 50 and 60yr old guys into the field just to make up the numbers
      I think I remember that from /misc/.

      There was also a cute redheaded kid, around 16yo, who was grabbed off the street when he went outside his house to buy shampoo, and sent straight to the front just a couple of days later, no training of course. (Kind of a dumb move on his part, should've let his mom do the shopping.) He got lucky, the Ukrainians shot the shit out of the van he was being transported in, killing the driver and probably everyone else except the kid; he was unharmed, sitting on the road in handcuffs, being told by the Ukrainians that he'd be fine and not to worry.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a weapon you give troops whose loyalty is unknown. It's enough to command civilians, do patrols and security checks, but it's not enough to start an insurgency.
    Also it's the best russia can come up with lol

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are baffled by vatniks using mosins in 2022 but not by vatniks using MT-LB and T-54/55 in 2024?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That makes sense after how many vehicles got vaporised by NLAWs, Javelins, rocks thrown underhand C.gustavs, bayraktars, rc helicopters with bombs on them and nato microwave laser railguns

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are baffled by vatniks using mosins in 2022 but not by vatniks using MT-LB and T-54/55 in 2024?

        New age of war, it's not about the gun or the engine so much as the optics and the radio. T-55 still sends rounds through challenger IIs. Just a matter of how many guns, who shoots first and how many can shoot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Neither of those designs are close to as old as the Mosin, which was originally developed in the God damn 19th century.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but I’d be less shocked going into battle with a bolt action than a 70 year old tank. Yeah bolt action rifles were outdated by WW2, but the gap between a bolt action rifle with iron sights and a select fire intermediate caliber rifle with iron sights isn’t at vast. In my opinion at least. If I’ve got 10 guys in a field with shitty mosin against 10 guys with AKs, I wouldn’t like those odds but at least we could put up a fight. A T54 or a MT-LB stands zero chance against an Abrams or Bradley and they’ll die before even knowing the Abrams or Bradley exists.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gun is gun*~~

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Were the Russians deliberately trying to get the fighting-age men in the Donbass killed so they couldn’t turn into insurgents against later on?

    They were generally lowlifes who already betrayed their country once, usually for a promise of material gains (being allowed to take other people's shit after they're chased out) and power.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My understanding is that mosins were only given to rear guard troops not expected to see combat anyways

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >My understanding is that mosins were only given to rear guard troops
      Why are all these rear guard troops all dead?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure the DPR interior ministry's paramilitary police herded the rest of their mobiks into the trenches last summer.
        They're probably still there. Not necessarily alive, but anyways. There.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure the DPR interior ministry's paramilitary police herded the rest of their mobiks into the trenches last summer.
        They're probably still there. Not necessarily alive, but anyways. There.

        What's kind of unnerving is we genuinely don't hear anything about DPR battalions anymore, it's like they ceased to exist altogether

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's like they ceased to exist altogether

          That's because they pretty much did.
          Most of them got eviscerated to the point where the survivors just got absorbed into regular units.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I need to see real numbers on the population of DPR and LPR. I see western scumbags touting "protecting ethnic Russians" as justification for the invasion, they need to see what actually happens.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            LNR/DPR in-uniform body count was between 20k to 40k 2 years ago. Now....now the other body count is that much.

            Statistics on the civilian population is sparse and unreliable.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What possessed them to behave like this? Why on Earth would you represent your cause like that?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What possessed them to behave like this? Why on Earth would you represent your cause like that?

                They're that dumb and crude. Best I can hope is that they can't read English to know it was an airline and they were celebrating a Ukraine transport plane being hit. In any case, 100% of the people in that are dead now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Don't frown because the perpetrators of MH-17 will never be tried for their crimes
                >Smile because they all died of hypothermia and drone-related injuries in December 2022.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They had a population of about ~6.5 million prior to 2014 and supposedly about ~3 million left by 2022. I don't think anyone knows how many they have now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          where is frick is sparta and somailia? how many of the originals from 2015 are alive?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're still around
          https://t.me/nm_dnr

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Were the Russians deliberately trying to get the fighting-age men in the Donbass killed so they couldn’t turn into insurgents against later on?
          Nah early war they just wanted to use them as fodder to spare their own actual army from any meaningful losses beyond the great feint of Kiev. This proved insufficient of course and here we are now, with mobiks filling the spots.

          Well they kinda did cease to exist, they are now glorious russian armed forces my friend.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The old donbabwean and lugandan regiments are now stuffed full of mobiks along with the last few survivors of the meme republics.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why are all these rear guard troops all dead?
        Chechens.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Donbabweans
      >rear guard troops

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Were the Russians deliberately trying to get the fighting-age men in the Donbass killed so they couldn’t turn into insurgents against later on?
    Nah Donbas was pacified a long time ago, the smart ones left and the rest were dumb enough to believe Russian TV telling them the ebil Kiev junta were the ones that turned their cities into a warzone. They're just using them as cannon fodder because Russia doesn't actually view them as real Russians and therefore do not give a shit about their casualty rates. When ziggers accuse Ukraine/Zelensky of press ganging everyone to die for them, it's really just a projection of what Putin has done to Donbas.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t understand how there even is a controversy over conscription in Ukraine. This aint Vietnam where you’re being sent to some jungle hellhole on the other side of the world for some nebulous reason, these motherfrickers are actually invading your country with an army of cannibal serial killers and were at the gates of your capital city.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >how there even is a controversy over conscription in Ukraine.

        There isn't. What's controversial is expanding the pool of potential conscripts. So far they have tried to NOT send the 18 to 28 year cohort off to war unless they volunteered. There's also a bunch of exceptions that they're thinking above removing including medical (flat feet, bad vision- make them do essential non-combat stuff) and circumstantial (first that pops to mind is if you have 3+ children you're supporting, you're except)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >So far they have tried to NOT send the 18 to 28 year cohort off to war unless they volunteered

          In the US Selective Service for the draft runs from when you’re 18 till you’re 25. In Ukraine they were trying to lower the minimum age to 25. Just with that and not getting into the part about medical exemptions, I don’t understand how there can be opposition considering the situation Ukraine is facing. The minimum age for conscription should have been lowered to 21 as soon as the invasion started.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The minimum age for conscription should have been lowered to 21 as soon as the invasion started.

            There was no need. In fact they had more people in the training pipeline than they could process and arm. They were turning people away. Now apparently they CAN train and arm more people. What with attrition, assumedly more streamlined training, and Russia shadow-mobilizing everything it can for a year now, the need is there.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This, unless you are willing to believe russian tabloids and turdie newspapers (is there any real difference?) Ukraine has plenty of fighting men, what is more important, rotation alongside medevac and access to western medical support mean they are capable to counter russian superior numbers.
              One of the things people forget when comparing ukrainian and russian casualties is the average wounded hohol has more chances to survive than the average vatBlack person, which in turn means you still have a pool of ukkies who can either go back to fuel the economy or man the frontlines again, meanwhile the average russian only has as prospect to be turned into a meatcube.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If there's plenty of fighting men then why haven't they pushed the russians out? Further how does a nation with a below replacement level pop have plenty of fighting men?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Better to send older generations in first and preserve your younger population as much as possible.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Especially since ukraine's population chart shows a really deep notch at around age 20. From around 1998-2005 people weren't having kids because the economic situation was so fricked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don’t understand how there even is a controversy over conscription in Ukraine
        Because war sucks and people are scared of getting maimed or killed obviously. I like to think I'd volunteer in such a situation but I live a charmed life in the UK and will never have to make such a decision.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People still don't like war and a lot of the eager ones signed up a long time ago. The war turning into a stagnant grindfest doesn't exactly make for good recruitment either.

          War sucks, people may not like it, but in this case it might be preferable to ending up in uncle vatnik’s torture dungeon with jumper cables clamped to their balls.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Over 90% of Britbongs would be unwilling to go to war TO DEFEND THEIR COUNTRY AGAINST HOSTILE INVASION.
        I'm not kidding. Millenials and zoomers in the west are all cooked.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >using a british tabloid as a primary source
          guess that makes this true then too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that’s obviously bullshit (but I believe it)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sunday Sport is satirical.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah well, you still got a recruitment pool of more than 6 million, and they will be the ones with the automatic guns and explosives and the willingness to use them, particularly against fifth-columnist scum, what is the rest going to do? Cancel them at Twitter?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People still don't like war and a lot of the eager ones signed up a long time ago. The war turning into a stagnant grindfest doesn't exactly make for good recruitment either.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The problem is compounding itself in that they don't have enough troops to rotate them regularly, which lowers morale and discourages more people from signing up, which means the rotations become even more infrequent. At some point you have to switch to conscription, even though it's not going to be popular, to keep the morale of the army up and to assure the population that everyone is pulling their weight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        While Zelensky is a popular leader, the idea of Ukraine is still deeply tainted by corruption and incompetence. Not many Ukrainians are nationalistic enough to risk life and limb for the motherland, especially if they have the option to flee. There's not a lot of youth, either.

        In America, meanwhile, recent immigrants and first generation immigrants are enthusiastic members of the armed forces because it is a good job that pays better than shit and makes you become American fast. Because of my father's work and and the study of the Constitution as a kid, I've become a success. Same for my cousins, who are all rich now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most people do not want to die or even to kill others and that's a problem exacerbated by modern combat footage and for countries like Ukraine and there's still the underlying cultural idea that only an idiot would join the army as anything but an officer. Plus there's always a subset of the population that don't feel like their country has done them any good and wont want to fight for it. The bitter perma-single men and what have you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don’t understand how there even is a controversy over conscription in Ukraine.
        There isn't, as far as I can tell the entire "controversy" has been manufactured whole cloth by Russian propagandists
        There is some disagreement amongst Ukrainian high command about just how large the army needs to get, but this is a question of economic efficiency vs rotation potential, not a recruiting issue

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem was specifically attributed to
        1) Not having enough money and resources to grow the military by another 500,000
        2) To exacerbate that very issue by removing 500,000 men from the tax paying workforce

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >these motherfrickers are actually invading your country
        What does it matter if my tactics go to Kiev or Moscow? Both are far away and care not about me.
        > invading your country with an army of cannibal serial killers
        Sure, and they're turning belgians into soap too right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What does it matter if my tactics go to Kiev or Moscow?
          what?
          >Sure, and they're turning belgians into soap too right?
          turning them to soap would have eased the supply shortage they were having, seeing as they did actually massacre that Belgian village. But, alas, they didn't in fact turn them to soap after murdering them. So It was all British lies and the Kaiser's boys were actually the good guys, right?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Germans saw shots from civilian houses. Thought it was civilians firing on them and reacted like they had learned to in France in 1879: burn it down, killed the "shooters" and move on.
            The frogs opened the box of pandora due to not being able to handle that they lost, declaring total war, getting civilians to murder german soldiers as they slept, ect.
            For every german autistic reaction their is as stupidly arrogant french action.
            T-belgian

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        y fight for a society that literally wants u genetically filtered out of the genepool?
        NO PUSSY, NO WARRY
        NO PUSSY, NO TANKY
        NO PUSSY, NO COUNTRY

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also,
          NO PUSSY, NO MILITARY

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's like the border crisis or Europe is going to freeze *this winter*. Russian assets riling shit up. Putin is spending billions on guys like tucker or trump or whoever the new German guy is. Look up Russians renting out hotels or going to casinos and there go. Casino money goes to donors who give it to the politicians. It's a cash business. That's why if you want to be a foreign power and you want to influence American politics with billions you go to casinos and "lose money" or spend a lot or rent out hotel floors. Casinos and hotels. House of cards was the first kind of tv series to show it off. The new republican billion donors all have serious money in casinos. The Koch brothers are gone

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-mega-donor-adelson-met-with-haley-las-vegas-sources-2023-11-01/

          But just look up the mega donors for Republicans. It's casinos or "resorts with cash flow". Then look up who rents out entire rooms of hotels for who for extra credit.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is an interview with Gurkin friend who said that dombas genocide saved russian army from complete defeat and collapse.
    They used meat waves of forcefully people as meat shield to get back to pidoratan and create at least some position.
    Remember, ruBlack person always projects.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      link?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And why should I believe it?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Those guys were literal meat targets to clear out Donbass and Luhansk for what would have certainly been settlers from Russia proper had the war not instantly turn into a giant clusterfrick, and of course to waste Ukrainian ammo that would have gone towards mobiks. They’ve literally been pushing some variation of this for centuries now, its why the whole muh NATO borders argument for why the war started is such a giant crock of shit.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But I thought /k/ told me small arms don't matter? I'm getting mixed signals here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They pretty much don't, but it's not a great look if you're trying to larp as a superpower but at the same time equip your troops with rifles that were designed in the 19th century.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's a bit of a difference between showing up with weapons designed in the late 1800s, and at least having roughly the same class of weapon as the other guy.

      The Brit Enfield vs Kar98k probably wouldn't have mattered that much, all else being equal (same uniform, full ammo loadout common to the soldiers of the era), in a 1v1 match repeated 10,000 times over common WW2 engagement ranges.

      On the other hand a modern M4A1 or even early GWOT M16 with a trijicon or elcan vs a base kar98k, let alone the option of a grenade launcher, may have a bit of a disparity seen in the KDR.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don’t if you’re in the same realm as your opponent.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These guys are for checkpoints and sitting in trenches not on the front line.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A tank is a tank. A gun is a gun. An ass is an ass.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frankly, the cretins of Donbabwe deserve it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only half of them even have guns
      grim

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is the guy on the right preparing to hang himself?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how can you homosexuals honestly be this moronic?
    This photo is of the DPR, AKA local militia, not Russian soldiers.
    Be less of a fricking moron.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is literally talking about DPR proxy troops

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t.moron with no reading comprehension

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia uses an unofficial system of "disposable troops". Separatists, Tajiks, Asians, felons, etc. These units (ie, Wagner, Storm-Z, separatist forces etc) do force-recon and fixing actions — locate and engage enemy positions fixing them in place for artillery. This is conducted repeatedly until the enemy position vacates or is destroyed. After the disposable troops no longer face resistance from the enemy position the regular troops (MoD contractors, certain mobiks) move in to occupy the position, fortify and secure it and prepare for the next wave. That’s how Russia has achieved all of their frontline gains. The disposable troops are, officially, Russian heroes, but in reality their deaths carry no weight politically within the parts of Russia which matter (Western urban centers) and only a small financial burden (felons, separatists, Central Asians etc are cheap). It’s a successful system which has carried Russia through this war so far.

    From a Western standpoint: imagine your country was at war and was suffering terrible casualties— that’s bad, but if it was a well-known fact that all the people dying were African immigrants, Middle Eastern proxies and mercenaries — would you really care? Even if the media frequently called them heroes of the nation would anyone, including politicians, care that much? You get the idea. It’s not a perfect analogy because immigrants are a protected class in the West but you should at least understand the concept.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >imagine your country was at war and was suffering terrible casualties— that’s bad, but if it was a well-known fact that all the people dying were African immigrants, Middle Eastern proxies [...] — would you really care?

      Goddammit I suddenly want my country to be at war so bad now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If only we were that based could solve the Black problem

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thankyouanonthatsactuallyinformativeandninterdasting

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's only a fininite supply of convicts though right that Russia is quickly burning through though. They are running out of these disposable units, and face the risk of actually having to mobilize.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There's only a fininite supply of convicts
        It's a renewable resource.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It used to be a legit strategy in Victoria I to encourage military jobs to minorities, eventually destroying them by sending them on suicidal battles or attrition territories.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, Russia is just using the war as an excuse to genocide all its minorities.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    2 years later, priggy dead, mobikmeat chbes, they can only take 2 blocks

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >world's 2nd best military captured a street
    wow this almost makes up for the last 700 days of the 2 day smo

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I can’t believe that after having been invented three-quarters of a century earlier and being ubiquitous even in the most impoverished African shitholes, that nation that invented the AK couldn’t equip all of their proxy militias with it and instead sent them into armed with motherfricking Mosin-Nagants in 2022.
    Russia literally had zero plan further than 'drive to Kiev and the enemy will surrender'. They didn't give their 'professional' troops more than ~3 days of fuel and food, the idea of arming groups like this was so far down the list it simply did not occur to them. Then the special needs operation turned into a giant mess and every little warlord and local ruler was told to mobilise what he had no excuses and thus you get people with WW2 vintage stuff. Undoubtedly they had plenty AKs of all sorts in stockpiles which is why we've not seen this happen again once they eventually unfricked their logistics.

    Also you should understand that in authoritarian regimes like this they actively did not want to arm such groups sufficiently before the war made it necessary because any armed group you don't fully control is a potential source of resistance as we saw with Wagner or shit like mobiks having to pile their guns up even in frontline trenches. So when the initial plan failed there were not arms to hand beyond whatever the loyal police-larping-as-army units already had.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/b1B96DD.png

      I’m baffled that this actually happened in the year 2022. Were they supposed to be designated marksmen? Were the Russians deliberately trying to get the fighting-age men in the Donbass killed so they couldn’t turn into insurgents against later on? I can’t believe that after having been invented three-quarters of a century earlier and being ubiquitous even in the most impoverished African shitholes, that nation that invented the AK couldn’t equip all of their proxy militias with it and instead sent them into armed with motherfricking Mosin-Nagants in 2022.

      Which is not to defend this you just need to stop thinking like a westerner and start thinking like a subject of an autocratic regime. Backup plans are defeatist and count as questioning the leaders. All forms of power are little hierarchical kingdoms with deliberate redundancy and rivalries to stop them unifying against the leader and distribution of military equipment is a form of power. Combine those two and you have 2022's joke of an invasion. On the flipside both Gulf Wars had leadership that planned for far more resistance than they actually encountered and by and large the entire miliary and political hierarchy was united behind one goal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >which is why we've not seen this happen again once they eventually unfricked their logistics
      But we still see tons of Russian soldiers with Mosins, rusty AKMs, and DP machine guns, so clearly they haven't unfricked their logistics.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >But we still see tons of Russian soldiers with Mosins, rusty AKMs, and DP machine guns, so clearly they haven't unfricked their logistics.
        Since when? I mean aside from the rusty AKMs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we still see tons of Russian soldiers with Mosins,

          Got any pics? That would be pretty hilarious to see that they’re still using them.

          I don't have any mosin pictures on hand but I saw some mobiks on telegram complaining about getting issued them as a "DMR" with an ancient WW2 scope
          Here are some DP-28s and Maxims

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we still see tons of Russian soldiers with Mosins,

        Got any pics? That would be pretty hilarious to see that they’re still using them.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    congrats, after ten years spent fighting, hundreds of armored vehicles lost and tens of thousands of mobiks mulched, your boys might capture avdiivka soon...maybe...possibly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Avdiivka’s going to fall. The question now becomes whether there’ll be an encirclement or not. Ukrainians are doomposting about it atm so I imagine we’re going to be treated to another round of blaming muh lack of support from the west or muh soviet doctrine or whatever other horse shit needs to be peddled to make up for the mistakes that have led to another city falling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh soviet doctrine
        Holding on to things for just a few weeks too long and losing tactical flexibility just for political posturing 100% is a soviet doctrine problem though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Avdiivka’s going to fall. The question now becomes whether there’ll be an encirclement or not. Ukrainians are doomposting about it atm so I imagine we’re going to be treated to another round of blaming muh lack of support from the west or muh soviet doctrine or whatever other horse shit needs to be peddled to make up for the mistakes that have led to another city falling.

        Russia is sent 30-50 thousand men to their deaths to capture a city with a pre-war pop of 31,000. Is this going ot be the Russian doctrine here on out? 50 thousand men marched into a meat grinder eveyr year to take a single city? How many years will it be until they take Kiev and Odessa?

        >muh lack of support from the west

        There's a critical lack of artillery, right when the traiterous GOP blocked military aid. They are responsible for that.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >russia proves itself to be a laughing stock militarily
    nothing new

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hey when this conflict cools will tons of mosins be imported? missed out on those $60 ones like in 2010

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > I’m baffled that this actually happened in the year 2022.
    I have no way of knowing, but there's a chance these were Donetsk/Lugansk militia and not Russian military proper.

    These can be equipped with what the frick ever, russian MOD used them as human wave cannon fodder before they went to prisoners. I'm sure they do have enough AKs to go around theoretically, but it's a war, logistical screwups happen.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Those are the people of Donbass Putin came to save. Too bad they died as cannon fodder. Very unfortunate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I have come to save you all
      >whoops all the men died
      >well better evac all these women and children back to mother russia for safe keeping
      >oh look at all these empty homes. Well better ship in some Russian nationals to occupy these omes. Don't want them to go to waste right?
      >*winks*

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do we think Russians will realize that they exist at a state of being lower than cattle? At this point as an American, I'm at least useful as someone who produces things and pays taxes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Puccian mindset worked like that from the beginning. They know they're cattle and only hold out hope to become the cowherd, or some facsimile of one, at some point in their lives. It's not for nothing that it's basically one giant open-air prison with prison culture.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            centuries of living as a population on a territory rather than citizens of a nation + the nihilism and cynicism of post USSR collapse Russia has genuinely done a fricking number on Russians, they are so absurdly atomized as a society its hard to actually wrap your mind around

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Man, I am a thirdie (peruvian) and I can tell you for sure my fricking government is better than the Kremlin, the worst our leaders can do is ignore us and pocket our taxes or hire their moron cousins, even during our last war we never resorted to meatwave and assorted shitty tactics.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's actually not that unusual for thirdies to have stockpiles of old gear stashed away somewhere they can use in case they have far more bodies to arm than they have modern weapons for.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >bradleys blow up
    >spammed to death, still posted daily 8 months later
    >russian column blows up
    >2 threads, forgotten about a week later
    Do ziggers have no shame? Or do they not realize how telling this is?

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >None of them want kids. Ironically, the one who went back is a hardcore trad witch lady and still doesn't want kids. She's had something like a dozen abortions, it's absurd.
    The problem is 50% the women being morons and not wanting kids/claiming to be feminists but really just being selfish and 50% the fact the men are drunken violent morons who die young due to drugs/fighting/suicide/stupid behaviour or beat the shit out of their wives and leave. This is a general slav thing but becomes more true the further east you go and when it comes to Russia specifically they've had a huge surplus of women/lack of young men since maybe 1914 or earlier due to constant wars adding on top of all the stuff I already mentioned. The handful of non-moronic men mostly just leave for better countries.

    So as a Russian or Ukrainian woman there are inherently not enough men to go around and what men do exist are mostly low quality + able to cheat on you with another woman facing the same issues you're worrying about if you have kids and it becomes too much work leaving you to raise the next generation of idiots as a single mother in povertyland. Surprise surprise many don't end up in stable relationships.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it's awesome, that's the magic of slav conflicts. The primary MG cartridge hasn't changed in over 130 years, so any piece of shit lying around that shoots 7.62x54R will be pressed into service.
    See also, Ukrainians using 1910 Maxims and DP light machine guns, though neither of those are as obsolete as a 5-round bolt action rifle.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how ukranian women have left the country?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Enough that they're all over the dating apps in Montreal, kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        meme answers aside, how many have emmigrated? This shit is so darn depressing. On one hand, u've got patriotic men on the front lines giving everything they've got and on the other hand u've got these prostitutes bouncing left n right on chads' and tyrones' dicks. The situation is the same in puccia or even worse. It's just that rich kids of oligarchs and handsome men are having all the fun while rural peasant men are bleeding and dying en masse.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Many got evacuated and realistically speaking the longer they are abroad the more likely they are to set down roots. Both Russia and Ukraine were facing horrible demographic issues even before this moronic war but for Ukraine at least they might have a small baby boom in celebration of winning as often happens.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >You can kind of see similar behaviour from east asian women too.
    lol, all women are opportunistic animals who only wish to trade up.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have pictures of luganda militias? I usually see the dobabweans taking all the spotlight..

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It really gets me down in the way that it's effacement. They will disappear, with no one to remember them. No achievements to leave behind, only fading memories of the cheap, dazzling excitements of their distant youth. Beautiful, intelligent women, more STEM-oriented than any I've met from here, disintegrated and impactless.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have that pic of Solovyov going "why are our only supporters in the West morons?"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks anon you're a bro

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The average Ukrainian gen z man who lives will be a war hero and have a giant surplus of women to choose from. A blessed life.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish that were true. I suspect gen z and young millenial women to be more selfish than the previous generation and that would mean being the most emmigrant prone. Ur avg gen z man will have to be happy with a 40+ year old widow nearing her menopause or a 60+ year grandma.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh yeah, I was hearing about the Russians dragging t-54s out of storage and using them as crude artillery or just filling them with explosives and driving them into the Ukrainian lines. After the attrition from the repeated assaults on Avdiivka, I’m curious if the Russians have had to resort to using them in their original role as tanks to sustain these suicidal zerg rushes, the Russians must be running low on t-90s/t-80s/t-72s by now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > the Russians must be running low on t-90s/t-80s/t-72s by now.
      They're certainly running low on easily deployable ones and for the T-90 just low in general. The further they reach into the stockpiles the worse the condition of what they pull out will be and thus the longer it takes to refurbish. A problem exacerbated by their terrible mothballing practices in the past. Their numbers for 'new tanks' each year includes a large chunk of reactivated tanks remember. Also unrelated but that thumbnail screams lazy youtube grifter. If you look or sound even mildly authoritative on the subject you can make money hand over foot just by reading out shit from twitter/telegram with lazy graphics on top.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I should have found a better pic, but I’m lazy. But the point is I want to see pics of the Russians using the things, especially in a tank role, but I can’t find any recent updates

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I unironically wish to see a massive international incel revolution

    I think its very possible in the next 20 years as the boomer generation dies off. A worldwide meiji restoration.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    D/LPR cucks had to make do.

    Was true in 2014 and still the same in 2022.
    >pic related

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the guys blown up mid-blowjob
      kek I didn't notice until now

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeap, genociding locals was the main goal.
    ruzzians are now moving non-slav ruzzian citizen into Bombass.

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