Post and discuss infantry fighting vehicles. Argue about the proper caliber autocannon for IFVs. Laugh at the warriors non-stabilized gun. I’ll start with the GOAT
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Post and discuss infantry fighting vehicles. Argue about the proper caliber autocannon for IFVs. Laugh at the warriors non-stabilized gun. I’ll start with the GOAT
Keep laughing boyo :^)
Can I join the IFV club guys? =D
35mm is best. Absolutely mogs armored vehicles and hardened structures. Airburst rounds are effective for anti infantry and drone work
How many does it carry? Do you have the penetration values? I really like the CV90 and I'm hoping the Army just snap with Ajax and buy a frick ton of these.
40mm supremacy. Specifically 40mm Bushmaster IV
>chaptcha 4HARM
For me it’s the ASCOD
You guys think it's going to be cute?
It reminds me of a kind of bug can't put my finger on it, help me out here.
the beetle with that big ass "antler"
The KING
>Catches fire
>Poisons entire crew
>Gets hit by BMP1
>Explodes
>Most destroyed western IFV
King or the dump lol
It’s still the most successful western IFV. Most tank kills of any IFV in the world as well.
Most successful at exploding, yeh got that right.
Source? Can’t find anything to back that up. I see that it’s the most widely produced and widely deployed western IFV. Impressive numbers
150 were destroyed in the Gulf, one by a fricking bmp 1 lol
Source?
Google . Com
Google says 20
>Some analysts suggest that around 150 Bradley vehicles were destroyed throughout the second Iraq war.
>23 in Gulf
Sorry its even worse than I previously thought, to date 173 Bradleys have been destroyed
Source? I believe the guy who posted a source. Plus the fact that it’s killed so many tanks is realy impressive
Your the same guy bro, poster count hasn't risen lol you shill the Bradley in every IFV thread. It's just not very good.
Different anon. Poster count is at 11 not 2. How do you cope with the amount of tanks the Bradley has killed. Compare that to other western IFVs and it’s really quite remarkable how good the Bradley is
I found the source in this thread
https://www.army-technology.com/analysis/featurethe-us-armys-armoured-vehicle-conundrum-4369690/
Include the 1st gulf war and the total is 173 Bradley's destroyed.
That’s ok. It’s the most heavily deployed western IFV of course it’s seen more action and done more stuff.
It's not capable of a 1v1 with a BMP1, it's not as good as you think it is. I'm sorry you got called out but somone had to say somthing.
>BMP1
Frick off.
BMP-2 however...
>The gunner of one Bradley was killed when his vehicle was hit by Iraqi fire, possibly from an Iraqi BMP-1, during the Battle of 73 Easting.
Looks like you guys are both seething and coping?
>possibly from an Iraqi BMP-1
Really now... possibly...
The fact is that BMP-1 was an obsolete design when it launched and the Soviets knew this but their own hellscape of bureaucracy and short term needs forced them to produce it in great quantities.
BMP-1 was a great concept but a bad design.
Imagine seething this hard. It’s wrecked everything from BMP through t-72. Most of its losses were from IEDs in asymmetrical warfare. I’m sorry you had to find out like this
Now post how many tanks the Bradley killed.
That doesn’t count. Most of those kills were British warrior kills mistakenly credited to Bradley. My uncle was a Bradley gunner in the first gulf war
You're gonna need these.
Nice way to try and move on from the Bradley being a death trap. Did the BMP1 hurt you that bad?
Yikes
Literally the best IFV ever made with the most tank kills out of any tracked vehicle in Desert Storm.
Very based.
>Literally the best IFV ever made
The best IFV?? LOL!
Hell no! XD
One of the worst!
No future army fighting against a peer enemy will be able to do without all around AA against small and very small drones.
So hear me out: What if we made dedicated autocannon "tanks". Could be wheeled or tracked, equipped with AA sensors, 35mm cannon, 12.7mm MGs, maybe a few missiles if there's extra space. Cannon would be a revolver cannon with several feeders so you can shoot different kinds of ammo at will. These vehicles would be basically wherever heavy fighting happens. In turn, actual APCs need much less armament and can carry more people.
This will never catch on. Lose the gay as frick triangular barrel shroud if you want it to be adopted. Imagine thinking a German marketing technique actually mattered
>B-but it looks gay
Thought processes deep as a puddle.
APS hits ATGMs without problems. MANTIS (that skyranger is based on) is a full on CRAM system. There's a lot of stuff that you can intercept with 35mm cannons.
By the time you added AA electronics, better cannon and sufficient ammo, there's not much space for people left.
Basically I'm suggesting we split the autocannon infantry support role from the troop transport role and combine it with the AA /antidrone /CRAM role, which will grow in importance anyway.
>APS hits ATGMs without problems. MANTIS (that skyranger is based on) is a full on CRAM system. There's a lot of stuff that you can intercept with 35mm cannons.
incoming threats that are usually stopped within throwing distance of the vehicle
but is there something that could reliably kill a civilian-sized drone thats 1km away, watching you and darting around?
At 1000m/s, 1 second of flight, probably hard. Not impossible, but maybe not worth it either. But I'm talking about suicide drones, loitering munitions, such things, and at much shorter ranges too.
The new guns on the Boxers and in the Skyranger do this fancy version of airbursting where they measure the speed of each projectile before they leave the barrel. Essentially they´re very precise Flak guns capable of producing fields of shrapnel exactely where you want them to. You can probably forget hitting a drone at 1 to 2 kilometers with a single shot, but you can probably swamp the fricker in a cloud of sub-projectiles if you send a burst it´s way.
Very nice, do you know if that's also used for airburst against ground targets too?
Think about what you just said. Can it airburst in the ground? What kind of moron asks such a dumb question. The ground is not air. You’re almost as bad as that moron defending the Bradley in here
If it strikes a ground target then it’s not air-bursting, no?
Yeah, it´s programmable air-burst ammunition. I suppose if you´re feeling cheeky you could shoot it at a BTR and have it explode inside the BTR.
>but is there something that could reliably kill a civilian-sized drone thats 1km away, watching you and darting around?
I've heard from people who are in the know that 40mm Bofors 3P ammunition makes quick work of such things.
%2CInc.
have they said how it is actually identifying and ranging to the target? How does the shell know when to explode when its near the target? I think the bideo is implying the shell detects the uav but idk how the shit that shit is supposed to work.
Ranging is usually done by laser rangefinder, which sets a time for the proximity fuse to become active. I'm pretty sure the proximity fuse is radar-based. You can also just fire a couple of rounds with staggered time detonations if you don't think you'll be able to make use of the proximity fuse.
>make your vehicle worse because a moronic Black person has no taste
No.
>add expensive new vehicles so we can make the vehicles we already have worse, and clog up the roads so we're easier to spot for artillery
Why not use the autocannons already on the IFVs?
>very small drones.
IS there anything that can hit THAT small of a fast, moving target thats usually very far away? sounds like some kind of large-area EMP would be the best bet but i am just an armchair general
Why post the older, uglier version of the turret?
>Argue about the proper caliber autocannon for IFVs
Me thinks 40mm is the absolute maximum.
35mm is like a little bit too thicc but still ok.
30mm is optimal.
25mm is like 90's anorexic model.
20mm is for sick frickers who should be hanged.
25mm is awesome. The m242 is one of the most accurate chain guns in existence. 25mm let’s you carry a lot more rounds and it’s able to penetrate anything short the frontal armor on a MBT using APFSDS
>able to penetrate anything short the frontal armor on a MBT using APFSDS
There are APC's and IFV's that are rated against 30mm APDSDS from the front out there.
Sure 25mm still has it's uses but it's rapidly becoming obsolete save for advancements in projectiles.
>There are APC's and IFV's that are rated against 30mm APDSDS from the front out there.
No there are pieces of paper saying that There are APC's and IFV's that are rated against 30mm APDSDS from the front out there. 25mm pens frontal IFV armor everytime. I’m sorry you had to find out like this
Just another Black person who has no idea what he's talking about.`
>/k/
Remind me... isn't this board restricted from minors?
This pre July 4th seethe is amazing. Who knew Bradley broke so many people
Why would 4th of July matter lol?
The possibility of a BMP1 killing you is perhaps the most embarresing thing to happen to a vehicle crew in a brand new Bradley.
Wait? The warrior had a non stabilized gun? Did it at least have dual feed?
No. And get this, it actually fed from 3 round clips.
Source? That can’t be right. Other IFVs at the time had fully electric turrets, stabilized guns, and dual feed capabilities. The British wouldn’t design such a shit IFV when they could have just purchased a decent western IFV
The Rarden is a pretty hot round. Does the warrior at least have an impressive list of kills like comperable IFVs such as the Bradley or marder?
Marder has 0 kills
No. It has a few kills from the gulf war but nothing like the number of kills the Bradley wracked up. After that it just did some low intesity deployments for the UN. The British are hoping to replace it with the AJAX but ive heard it’s run into some problems
Wrong on all three points but wel let that slip seen as how your feelings have been hurt :'(
The AJAX is intended to replace the CVR(T), not the Warrior, their replacements are most likely going to be the new Boxers the bongs are getting with a possible CTAI 40mm cannon fitted onto it.
>Being this upset about the number of Bradley's lost
>Deflects onto the warrior
Hey you could make that warrior thread again?
The British decided that it didn't need a stabilized gun, because it was built specifically for British troops in Europe to defend against the Soviets. The idea was that the gun would be used to engage light Russian vehicles (BMP1, BMDs, and lighter targets) from a hull down position while the tanks and ATGM teams dealt with heavier vehicles and the infantry dealt with the enemies dismounts.
>tl;dr - the Warrior is not a Bradley, it was built for a different job.
>w….we don’t even want to be able to shoot on the move like the other guys
Was the F111 a bad aircraft because it couldn't dogfight? Was the F22 a piece of shit because it couldn't be used as a bomber? Is the M4 carbine an embarrassing failure because it's not effective against infantry targets 2km away?
Samegayging won't save you from a BMP-1 anon...
Embarrasing
A destroyed IFV is an IFV doing its job. Fighting.
Hi I'm the Bradley sperg, I regularly post the Warrior thread because it makes me feel Insecure for some wierd reason, maybe because it's not a mobile death trap or the fact it's never been wasted by an ancient piece of soviet shit like a BMP1.
You can tell it's me because I started by saying how good the Bradley was and then somone reminded me that it's not as good as I thought, so I samegayged abit then of course I reverted to my default setting and brought up the warrior.
I'm also from florida and have a shit tool bag and cheap stool that I was bullied for in the last 3 warrior threads I made.
What level of mental illness is this? I’m willing to bet that’s not your pic and you are some salty foreigner
I feel bad for you bro
Is florida man in the room with you right now
Timestamp with the concealed carry Nigel. Everyone knows you’re using random pics to try and lend credibility to your Bradley bad obsession
Hello fellow American. I am from abbey of Florida also. I agree that the Bradley is bad as it lacks an electric kettle for my American coffee. I will ignore it’s impressive combat history killing tanks and instead offer up some fanfiction of the warrior actually doing anything.
Fellow American patriot from Arizonashire here
The Bradley is proper bollocks and the Warrior ifv is bloody scrumptious innit bruv
Why do I keep seeing this photo on pro Russian telegram accounts? What’s this mean
Source bro? Because I've only seen it posted by a guy trying to show off but then quickly being bullied about his tools and job then outing himself as the warrior sperg? Pretty sad really.
What job and tools? What’s the significance of the craftsman toolbag? What does it have to do with the Bradley? Explain as if I wasn’t in every thread ever created on /k/
Lerk more newbie. Everyone knows about ameritard. He constantly disparages British weapon systems to try and make the US look more powerful. Everyone on this board hates him.
based Bradley hurting the feelings of foreign shitskins
Bradley is good
twin 40 aps/aa
carry some infantry who can get out and hide in holes and get ptsd
apc > ifv
>get fricked