If you fight a retreating battle, is it possible to build up defensive lines under pressure?

The tempo doesn't seem to slow down.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      HATO propaganda

      Ukronazi forces are contained

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that guy found out pretty quickly that his mspaint arrows weren't enough to stop the offensive.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          proofs ukronazis made any more gains

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nah, you'll figure it out all by yourself

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine twitter offensive
          >Russian Ms paint counter attack

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Every time you vatcucks call it propaganda it turns out you were wrong the next day.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The anus is clenching.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        if russian military actually had a culture of initiative and an actual NCO presence, I would maybe actually believe this mspaint arrow to some small degree.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >443 laugh emojis
      >571 laugh emojis

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        kek this war is surreal, if you had told me years ago it would have gone like this I wouldn't have believed it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          most of us wouldn't believe it 7 months ago

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            3 months ago the party line was 'russia is getting humiliated but still slowly gaining lands'

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its sort of the problem of 'soothsaying' some kind of outcome, you can really only go on current, free in the wild information and sort of speculate just how it should theoretically work out.
            >Throw in a bit of fudge-factor here and there
            >Claim your a military expert on twitter
            But there's a lot of other factors you just can't account for when it comes to just a screaming shit fight this big, its not two boxers in a ring with a fight history, its 1000's of dudes over 1000's of km with dozens of other players coming in to tilt the outcome one way or another. Plus there's a vast depth of tactical or logistical outcomes which affects the operational outcomes, which in turn rolls onto the strategic posture at the end of the day.

            I did a lot of deployments overseas, at best I can advise people on maybe some tactical and operational considerations + the logistics which will make those work. But when I see people claiming to be experts it really bugs the shit out of me because military theory is such a massively broad and encompassing field that you can really only be an expert on a couple of things, usually if you're either extremely well read or have gone out and done it professionally on the sharp end.
            So just beware of people who claim to be experts and even more so of people claiming rock solid predictions

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The news agency claims 'disciples of ortherworldly forces tried to consecrate their weapons and made marks with blood' so as to give their armoury extra energy to deal extra damage when it hits a target

              It's just so... I don't even know anymore. We've passed the point where mockery could help me cope with knowing this level of insanity exists.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Like if you went down the corner store and spent the 5bucks your mum gave you on chocolate instead of buying eggs
                >mum, a large group of fairies jumped out of a bush and stole the 5dollars
                Its at this point you get the fucking strap and deservedly so, for being a lying little shit

                What Russia needs is at least one responsible adult in their life

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look up their recent posts. They pretty much saying there won't be any decent defence lines until Kherson itself

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty true, for months the flat fields has been the best defenses they can get. Now that the Ukes have a breakthrough, theyre capturing all the ground that would have been the hard part of an offensive.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The open fields giveth and now the open fields taketh. The ukies got fucked many times in the past by the russian armor superiority.
          Now it's time for the russians to be on the receiving end of a thorough pasting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/C7e3ZnZ.png

      I think it's possible. But it's only a matter of time before that gets broken against localised superior numbers
      But also https://files.catbox.moe/z61qbd.mp4 is going to happen, and will happen, and will happen again and again until the Russians are buckbroken.

      the champange...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Forty-two Russian families just won a brand new Lada!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Retreating yet they have enough time to tell everyone on TG about it. Is this Zoomer warfare?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      These fucking hohol pig cowards blowing up bridges and preying upon the wounded is fucking pathetic. God will punish them for their predatory evil. They're already being killed in the thousands every day. Probably close to 150k casualties and God will kill more of them as long as they resort to this cowardice.

      Russia will be ruthless in negotiations. No sympathy when these pigs finally surrender.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        either a low quality bait or take your meds schizo.
        the only good russian is the one thats dead. Death will be a blessing for those vatniks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      NOWHERE TO RUN TO BABY! NOWHERE TO HIDE!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The funny shit is that it was obvious when the first HIMARS strike hit the bridge with highest precision.
      They were warned that if they don't fuck off now, they will be cooked in kotel. They knew it. They had time. And yet they didn't react, because "PUCCIA STRONK!!!" And now they will die.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Putin personally forbade retreat from Kherson.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And soldiers just obey it because some old shizo who has no idea how war works told them so?
          It's not even a general. Orders are made to have some success in sight, some sort of victory or consolidation of losses. He just told them to commit suicide because his ego couldn't handle a loss of the city.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And soldiers just obey it because some old shizo who has no idea how war works told them so?
            This is how chain of command has worked throughout history. Especially in politicized militaries.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Russia doesn't have a Western style military. It has a top-down style military where your platoon eats when the Colonel General says your platoon can eat, your platoon sleeps when the Colonel General says your platoon can sleep, rape when the Colonel General says your platoon can rape and shit when the Colonel General says your platoon can shit.

            Anyone who tries to push towards a Western style military gets extra cock rations. If they persist, it's gulag or window time.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He just told them to commit suicide because his ego couldn't handle a loss of the city.
            that is how most ancient land empires run by a dictator and his pet oligarch tend to operate
            Russia was and still is so backwards that is debatable if they even transitioned through feudalism or if they skipped it entirely as a society.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well they did maintain serfdom really late into history. Like I think it might have even been up to the late 1800's but I'm not quite sure.
              But yeah it was a fairly hard dump between serf and citizen that never quite happened for very long and then they just rolled into being worthless cunts under the tsar before rolling straight into undiluted commies.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Looked it up
                >Serfdom was abolished in Russia in 1861

                yup, it was abolished but more or less diminished to some fuzzy grey area

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The official Russian story is that they just replaced it with Serfdom 2.0 "I swear it's a mutually-beneficial relationship" edition. Then they threw a boog and replaced it with Serfdom 3.0 "Isn't this such a worker's paradise, Comrade" edition.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I guess the 90's probably count as an alcoholic blackout for 10 years.
                Wake up and its Serfdom 4.0 'we're democratic, lol ok'

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we cannot get out

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >couldn't wait for the vietnam mirror scenes where Millenials and zoomers came by in helicopters playing gucci gang, party rock and k-pop
      >got Russian zoomers telegramming intel instead because their comms and leaders are fucking garbage
      🙁

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it would be extremely painful

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If there are no natural bottlenecks (bodies of water, thick forests, mountains, ravines, etc) and if you don't have a reserve force behind you, then usually no.

    Unless your enemy stops pursuing for whatever reason.

    At best you can leave a rear guard as a speed bump.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      can't you have conscriptovichs put up a defensive line somewhere behind the frontline if you know you can't hold on anyways? seems better than just fighting and withdrawing. or do you think they have put theirs all the way back at beryslav?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You just gain more fleeing people, but yes you can offer sacrificial forces if you have control.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No he's suggesting having a line far to the rear get established during the retreat and hoping it allows reprieve for the retreating forces or can spoil the attackers. It's possible and even a requirement for a truly successful retreat, but it's not likely to be something RF forces can do with the speed of the retreat, the lack of actual reserves at the front, and the shock power behind the Ukrainian offensive. If the front line stabilizes it will probably be on a natural defensive bulwark like a town or river, rather than in the open.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think it's possible. But it's only a matter of time before that gets broken against localised superior numbers
            But also https://files.catbox.moe/z61qbd.mp4 is going to happen, and will happen, and will happen again and again until the Russians are buckbroken.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Literal retard here:
              Why do they always call the eastern bank left and western bank right? Would make more sense the other way around no?
              I have been diagnosed with severe mental retardation please do not bully.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Look at it from the Russian perspective: Moscow, their home, and their command is in the north. Looking south towards Ukraine left is east and right is west. Also, everything west is evil.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Uhhh are their maps upside down or something?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What the mean by left flank is Kherson, Right flank is Kharkiv.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus Christ, anon, I think you should get checked like the anon you replied to

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                relative to the flow of the river

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous


                its based on which way the river flows.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >command is not responding
              lmao command got HIMARS'd

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need to have a deeper defensive line, reserves either ready to entrench or already entrenched. I mean a real reserve force not conscripts. So it all depends on how many professional troops and gear they have left. And also the environment obviously

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SAAB sales team
      God bless those boys, they really went above and beyond the call of duty to try and sell their shitty jets

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think the products they were marketing in Mariupol were the NLAW and AT4

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Please no bully, the executive at SAAB is fucking fuming that our government is not giving away everything they make so they can get new orders/free advertising.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Jeb!
      Makes me smile but also a bit wistful. He honestly doesn't seem so bad anymore.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Real feels right here

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'll forever regret not buying his branded guacamole bowl.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. If they were a competent army they would be setting up defensive ambushes with artillery dialed in every 5-10km of distance that would all stop the advance for a bit and bleed the Ukies of manpower and equipment.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's very difficult, which is why you establish multiple lines of defense beforehand.
    After the battle of Kursk, the Germans had to retreat all the way to the Dnieper but since strong fortifications weren't established in time, the Soviets successfully crossed the Dnieper anyway.
    There isn't much depth in Kherson, so the situation is very bad for the Russians.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      veh deh veh havent suffered enough apparently, putin wont rest until their entire branch is liquidated

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >126 is no more

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely, if you have adequate reserves, good planning, good discipline, good communications, and good leadership that will withdraw when necessary. It's unclear if Russia has any of those.

    Different powers accomplished it in WWI. The Germans and Austrians eventually got the hang of it after being surprised when Russia temporarily got its shit together under Brusilov. The Germans also did it after they started facing a significant firepower and manpower disadvantage when US troops began being thrown into the front in earnest. The problem was that they had already spent their strength in a last ditch effort to reach Paris, and couldn't weather the 100 Days Offensive, but they did make it costly for the Entente until things really began to unravel.

    For all this shit Austria gets, part of the reason they were able to hold back all of Italy's power and still fight Russia was that they always had a new line ready if the Italians made any progress, but the terrain helped that too.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a city literally named mylove that Russians have lost
    kek I fucking love Ukrainians.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmao there goes Snihurivka

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      take back the cossack camps, ukraine
      do it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        do it kindly please

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      SNEEDRIVKA NOOOOOOOOO

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      map for reference, it's one of the larger towns in the region, and pretty strategic as it allows for a direct connection over the inhulets from the point it begins to turn southwards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was the lynchpin of the russian defensive line in the center there. Looks like a general collapse of the kherson front for russia

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's ridiculous how their lines went from a big banan hugging the dnipro to a flattened cauldron around kherson

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No more cope arrows. Only retribution.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How the hell did I *just* see Tyahynka for the first time?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All those shaping actions. Finally it's all paying off.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/0MZRBLX.png

        lmao there goes Snihurivka

        What the fuck. I thought Snihurivka was one their main strongholds with concrete bunkers and shit. Did they really just pack up and leave?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It is every abandoooner's wet dream to leg it from a pristine fortification system with ammo dumps left untouched.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          1 himars 1 bunker, and the entire defensive line is gone.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Do7J8pa.jpg

      map for reference, it's one of the larger towns in the region, and pretty strategic as it allows for a direct connection over the inhulets from the point it begins to turn southwards

      No fucking way

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Do7J8pa.jpg

      map for reference, it's one of the larger towns in the region, and pretty strategic as it allows for a direct connection over the inhulets from the point it begins to turn southwards

      Holy fuck, it's gone already? How are the Ruskies gonna hold Kerson city at this point?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They literally cant

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They’re not.

        I’ve seen reports that the Antonovsky Bridge is destroyed, so there’s no point in going there or holding there.
        It’s now a race to who gets across the Dnieper via that dam…as long as that doesn’t get blown up.

        I wonder if vatniks are taught to swim in Basic Training, because that’s about the only way these vatniks are getting out of this without surrendering or being shot.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          swimming is guaranteed death right now

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Agreed.
            I did say that it wasn’t their SMARTEST option.

            Even if you survive the swim, you’d only be sent as a bullet-stopper somewhere else.

            I wonder how many pizzas are being delivered to heavy caliber military bases around the world tonight as tacticians are watching this unfold?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're telling me modern wetsuits/survival layers AREN'T part of the standard Russian infantry loadout!?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            45 degrees they're going to get a heatstroke damn

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Damn that's pretty comfy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Survival time in 32F-40F water is over an hour; the river’s not that big. They could cross it if they can swim (they can’t) and if they leave all their stuff behind (they will) and if there’s warm shelter waiting fo them on the other shore (there isn’t)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Germans never took Stalingrad in similar circumstances

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Germans were at the end of a 1000-mile shitfuck of a logistics train. Ukraine is not.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Stalingrad had 180,000 defenders, held out for 3 months before a million strong counter offensive.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            germans did take stalingrad, then they were autistically obsessed with holding it. even when the reds threatened to encircle them in it they refused to leave the city, so they got encircled and wiped out.

            maybe we'll see the vatniks do the same, sit inside kherson until completely surrounded. would be real bad because it would probably result in the remaining civilians in the city getting massacred by spiteful vatniks before the ukrainians can actually take the city itself.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              you nailed it, they had 90% of the city, it was probably the definition of an epic battle that ended up with like a million soldiers fighting for 1 city, the wierd thing was the soviets did the exact same thing the germans did early war and bypass/encircle strong points, the germans even had warning the flanks of the city were not strong.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        thats the neat part, they wont

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i'm almost totally certain those cheekguards would do basically nothing but god damn do they look cool

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ballistic chops are mostly for fragmentation protection

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >thats the neat part, they wont
          I swear to fuck, this is the response of the war.

          Well, this and NATO guided artillery.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thats easy lad.

        By being literally just fucking ignored. Ukraine wont rush Kherson. They don't need to. They just Lyman the cunts yet again by crossing at Kakhova and merily get on their way capturing the rest of the oblast while a 20k strong Russian army formation is stuck at Kherson with their thumbs up their ass having to choose between trying to break out and get fucking trashed, or surrender.

        Ukraine likes to keep their momentum and doesn't bother trying to break down an enemy they have solidly locked down.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Right, Russian mentality is almost literally medieval. Like they just revived Tsar rule and old royalist followers and shit directly from centuries back. They focus on cities and such, but Ukraine doesn't need them immediately if it gains everything around them and controls all lines of supply. Might be different if Russia had such a powerful Navy it could do full scale sea supply but it can't. Russians sit in their castle but that takes those forces out of the war about as effectively as if they'd all been blown up. Ukraine can just keep going and wait for them to crack.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine likes to keep their momentum and doesn't bother trying to break down an enemy they have solidly locked down.
          Literally Cuman-Tatar-Cossac military heritage. Tempo tempo is in their blood.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How am I supposed to get any sleep when all the exciting stuff happens at night

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right about now is when a relatively small force with NVDs and trained to fight at night and left “off watch” and sleeping during daylight can have a major impact.

        Don’t let the vatniks rest, sleep or eat. 24/7 engagement.

        This is what “tempo,tempo,tempo!” is all about.

        A mechanized thrust at night deep into the vatnik rear wiould be absolutely chaotic for them, even more than it already is.
        Rumors would fly, indecision would set in, and then either static paralysis or headlong rush across the river by individuals and small groups.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh god can you imagine the chaos from a dozen strykers ripping through enemy lines at night, autoturrets blasting... pure carnage

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      SNEEDRIVKA NOOOOOOOOO

      >formerly known as Chuckhurivka

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Do7J8pa.jpg

      map for reference, it's one of the larger towns in the region, and pretty strategic as it allows for a direct connection over the inhulets from the point it begins to turn southwards

      The frontline has moved past Mylove so fast, I didn't have a chance to use all the prepared jokes

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Widely held to be the hardest maneuver to execute in warfare.

    You throw out some sacrificial troops to slow down the enemy advance while as much of your force as practical scrams for the rear.
    You will have brought up your reserves and deployed them in defensive posture with covering supporting arms fire.

    The problem in this kind of terrain is that there’s little to anchor your open flank on, so a mobile force can just drive around it and then envelop the hasty position and roll it up.
    As that flank is collapsing, units will panic and any mobile forces attacking the fallback frontally will find it easier to break through.

    This will then develop into many smaller envelopments since the attacker is coming from two axes of advance.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the attrition rate gonna be with Russian conscripts this winter? 80%? They’re gonna either freeze to death (lol no winter informs) or get hit by artillery before ever getting to the front.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The rate will be 1

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They can safely keep warm by fellatio. No one would be rude enough to interrupt a gentlemanly slurp-and-burp.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whole units getting wiped out, when was the last time we saw this? Korea?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just classic overextension, isn't it? The Russians forgot about what happens behind the front lines.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Perhaps the reason why they were scrambling their mobiks. It was too late.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you believe these Telegram reports (I do), Russians are panicking with no idea of what to do and no one is taking charge so they keep falling back with some units being decimated after contact with the Ukrainians. Pure chaos.
      And these are vatniks saying this, AND we have confirmation of Ukrainian units having already advanced quite far hours ago. Jesus.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Russians are panicking with no idea of what to do and no one is taking charge
        taking charge is taking responsibility, and fucking no one wants to have that on their plate. They've fucked themselves with their self-serving culture

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    strap in lads

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We're all gonna make it bois

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The reason they'd fall back from there is if the west to east push is real and it's at risk of getting stuck against the river.
      Seems like that previous attack down there on the south west was ALSO a shaping operation lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me about the cumpit meme

        t. Was at sea for the early part of the war

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Increasingly intricate joke maps about what the depths of the Azovstal steel plant (where the last defending forces at Mariupol holed up) contained were made and distributed here. In addition to various other silly items that were purported to be hidden from the Russians, there was said to be a giant pit of semen at the very bottom of the plant which attracted the attention of the Russians and their Serb supporters.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Increasingly intricate joke maps about what the depths of the Azovstal steel plant (where the last defending forces at Mariupol holed up) contained were made and distributed here. In addition to various other silly items that were purported to be hidden from the Russians, there was said to be a giant pit of semen at the very bottom of the plant which attracted the attention of the Russians and their Serb supporters.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            someone needs to update it with the orb

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            everything about it makes perfect sense but why the mazda 3 storage?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Do you know a better more secure place Zelensky can put his Mazda 3s? WELL?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            get that whack ass version of a top tier meme out of here

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Originally vatniks were talking about torture rooms in Azovstal called "the Pit". Naturally, here that was changed to "the cum pit" and everything evolved from there.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        amazing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think I know where my next tabletop oneshot will be.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly it's the only sensible option they have now bar retreating behind the Dnieper.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >retreating behind the Dnieper.
        That's the next stage.

        Russian coping/retreating is like an onion: it has layers

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's latge number of Russian artilery on the other bank that was withdrawn there before the Antonovsky bridge was all fucked up. I suspect that they can create pretty effective killzone on the outskirts of the city.
          Ukrianians will have to flank them through Khakovka.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but not if you have russian tier training.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sneedhurivka allegedly under uki control as of 30 mins ago

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give me odds on:

    1. ukraine reaching the city limits of kherson by the end of the week

    2. ukraine crossing the river and encircling the city by the end of the week

    3. ukraine taking kherson + crossing the river by the end of the week, setting the stage for further advances.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1. 80%.
      2. 5% this, but crossings elsewhere possible
      3 10% chance Kherson falls Friday.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kherson will not be taken in a week. The Russians are actually going to fight for it because a major reason for invading was to secure fresh water to Crimea. If the Russians lose Kherson, they no longer control the flow of water to Crimea.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Will they be able to stop themselves from routing?
        Will they be able to even make it to Kherson?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, so far the only place the Vatniks have put up a fight in the past 2 months has been Lyman. Everywhere else has crumbled the dust so far

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The canal is by Beryslav, where they're already abandoning.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Arakkis will not be taken in a week. The Harkonnens are actually going to fight for it because a major reason for invading was to secure Hispanice to Gidi Prime. If the Harkonnens lose Arakkis, they no longer control the flow of Hispanice to Gidi Prime

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      50%
      5%
      5%

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Link to the copecast?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like pottery. Also, they can't set up a defensive position because their communications are being jammed apparently. They're just going dark, never to be heard from again. I imagine that if Halloween isn't a thing in Ukraine, it DEFINITELY will be after the war's done.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    T-90S spotted in Ukraine
    what the fuck?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what the fuck?
      why does that surprise you?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's an export model. The kind people claim are "monkey models" when they get destroyed en masse.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's a Monke model which is for abandoonment not conventional export.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Still way better than a T-62, or unmodernised older T-72 variant.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Monkey models was always cope. Russian export tanks only have minor differences like lack of radiation liners. Same with other tanks BTW, Saudi and Iraqi Abrams are equivalent to US Abrams.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Saudi and Iraqi Abrams are equivalent to US Abrams
            they don't get the DU plates or DU shells, and probably not the same electronics

            also, the less trustworthy you are, you don't even get access. neither India nor Pakistan for example will ever see F-15 until a fleet of NGADs cover the skies, because of how fucking mercenary the pajeets and muzzie-pajeets are

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they have already lost an SM a couple weeks ago

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bought back from India or stolen from an outgoing shipment, place your bets.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thats what reserves and counter attacks are for

    You could dig a defensive line in a day

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not under artillery fire

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends, are you Russian?

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They could have.

    If they had bothered to make a layered defense. But no, in their sheer fucking hubris they basically have no deep defensive lines past where they are, and the separatist republics. You can see it in Kremina; they've had fucking months to set up advanced trenchlines, bunkers, tank pits and the like. And once we look through satalite images after Lyman, what do we see? One of their most important logistical hubs in Luhansk, protected by a few shity 1.2m deep trenches that Conscriptovitch drunkily dug out in a few hours.

    And that is the issue, the Russians have decent defensive lines only where the line of control was stalled for a meaningful period of times. Everywhere else they'll simply be running from shitty waist deep trench to shitty waist deep trench.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Everywhere else they'll simply be running from shitty waist deep trench to shitty waist deep trench.
      >Ivan, quick, dig trenches and build defenses
      >But Sergje, TV and generals say we are strong and will move further. We wont need these in 1 month.
      >Right Ivan, command never ordered good defenses or send us digging equipment!

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A common method to block following armor is revetments made from household appliances and the more intact friendly KIA as a sementitious binder between staggered layers. Washing machines are particularly effective shrapnel catchers easily capable of containing up to 280mm trench mortar blasts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they sacrifice their washing machines it would have all been for nothing

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no! Where can I get my well informed battlefield analysis now ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ISW is filling in for him

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yea, if you're competent and have the equipment layout designed for that.

    That would mean well-placed vanguard providing just enough threat to force the advancing enemy to crawl, as you quickly decide your defensible ground, preferably something very swampy and denying of heavy equipment use. From there you identify what parts of that geography is an exception and then place your own heavy equipment in a defensive role.

    This is all based on the idea that you didn't just force conscript what is now the majority of your army with rusty AKs and are too busy giving blowjobs to each other.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it takes time to build a trench

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love how this shit began happening so fast ISW was like "Okay Carol, time to check out what the Russian internet is doing, yep, it seems like they definitely hate each other!"

    I also like how Superpotato got through to all the Uke OSINT guys that night time IS FUCKING BED TIME GO TO SLEEP SHUT DOWN COMPUTER CLOSE EYES GET REST NO TWITTER

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not when the entire country is basically a flat plain.
    Is there a single fucking mountain in eastern Ukraine? Looking at google earth at the moment with exaggerated topography, it's all farmland.
    If Nato had to pull the trigger to end the war because of Putin going nuclear, the Russian troops would be erased from the face of the earth in hours if not minutes. There is no topography to hide in, just trees.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    any diseases breaking out in ukraine/russia/dnr?

    i dont think all those pigs eating bodies, shit, blood , war stuff everywhere is good for the soil.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When will we know the full "benefits" of Russia's mobilisation on its war effort? It's been two weeks or so now, I assume some are still being retrained.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    asking for a comra- i mean friend.

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